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LRN
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.05.18 10:13:00 -
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I've spent about 4B buying a Rhea as part of an initiative to deliver goods in null sec. However hours ago (I'm still in vacation mind you) I've stumbled across a researched cap ships, capital components BPOs sale bellow NPC price. As a result I've spent whatever funds I had left while still being far from having gathered all the pieces I would need to switch focus. Probably not a wise course of action but I couldn't resist.
As a result I see myself compelled to pick up where I left with my extremely profitable earlier enterprise (though very stressful).
I'm offering a 5B, 20% return/month bond for a minimum of 1 month. I will start with whatever funds are there (provided it's more than 3B isk).
Dutch auction in effect.
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Ortos
Abyssus Incendia
THORN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.18 10:16:00 -
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Correct me if im wrong, didnt you say you allready had your 10b never needed public money again?
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LRN
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.05.18 10:17:00 -
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 Originally by: Ortos
Correct me if im wrong, didnt you say you allready had your 10b never needed public money again?
Correct.
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Ortos
Abyssus Incendia
THORN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.18 10:27:00 -
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I figured I'd make another follow up post to the last but whatever, it'll just be pointless bashing just for laughs and I can live without it.
One question still, whats the largest bond you've had in the past?
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.05.18 10:38:00 -
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WOOT!!!!
and who says the market is dead
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EBANK Ricdic
Eve-Tech Savings n Loans
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Posted - 2008.05.18 10:42:00 -
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A matter of days ago you advised you would never again seek public investment.
Should be interested to see how many players attempt to invest in another YouGotRipped enterprise. Interesting to note you are attempting an unsecured one when no-one would even buy into your secured one.
I will start the auction with 100,000 ISK @ 20%
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.05.18 10:48:00 -
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ricdic you newb...dammit you bid, now the infamous "Ricdic Lemming Effect" will occur.
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Ortos
Abyssus Incendia
THORN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.18 10:55:00 -
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Edited by: Ortos on 18/05/2008 11:01:30
500000 isk at 100%
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LRN
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.05.18 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: Ortos
Edited by: Ortos on 18/05/2008 11:01:30
500000 isk at 100%
Noted.
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.05.18 11:21:00 -
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Edited by: YouGotRipped on 18/05/2008 11:22:55
Originally by: EBANK Ricdic
A matter of days ago you advised you would never again seek public investment.
Should be interested to see how many players attempt to invest in another YouGotRipped enterprise. Interesting to note you are attempting an unsecured one when no-one would even buy into your secured one.
I will start the auction with 100,000 ISK @ 20%
Not bad, not bad. I can bring proof of purchase for the aforementioned JF and BPOs btw.
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Roguehalo
Caldari
RH Ship Brokers
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Posted - 2008.05.18 11:43:00 -
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As far as I know LRN/Yougotripped hasn't actually, contrary to all the accusations, scammed anybody.
I'll risk 200m at 20%
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MilowFV
Echo Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.18 13:32:00 -
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I will go 250 million ISK let me know when to send it and to who.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2008.05.18 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Roguehalo
As far as I know LRN/Yougotripped hasn't actually, contrary to all the accusations, scammed anybody.
I'll risk 200m at 20%
No one has claimed he scammed anyone as far as I know. He just claimed that was indeed his intent.
This thread is quite funny.
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Ortos
Abyssus Incendia
THORN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.18 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Shadarle
No one has claimed he scammed anyone as far as I know. He just claimed that was indeed his intent.
This thread is quite funny.
This thread is a letdown you mean?..
I was expecting more, are people tierd of having fun in his threads?
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EBANK Ricdic
Eve-Tech Savings n Loans
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Posted - 2008.05.18 17:54:00 -
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Yeh I limited my investment to the valuation I put on the CEO.
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Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
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Posted - 2008.05.18 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: EBANK Ricdic
Yeh I limited my investment to the valuation I put on the CEO.
Recklessly overbidding as usual. 
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Ortos
Abyssus Incendia
THORN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.18 19:29:00 -
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He's got his hand in ebank supplies.. thats how he can afford it..
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LRN
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.05.18 20:10:00 -
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Edited by: LRN on 18/05/2008 20:17:14
Originally by: Shadarle
Originally by: Roguehalo
As far as I know LRN/Yougotripped hasn't actually, contrary to all the accusations, scammed anybody.
I'll risk 200m at 20%
No one has claimed he scammed anyone as far as I know. He just claimed that was indeed his intent.
This thread is quite funny.
I'm sorry to disappoint you. That was your interpretation of it and as we've seen on many occasions, comprehension isn't exactly your strong point.
Whether this bond raises 100k or 5B isk is not important, I will proceed with whatever funds are there and settle the problem with my reputation once and for all.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.05.18 21:20:00 -
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I've avoided this thread though I saw it earlier. Mostly because I just wanted to avoid trolling LRN/Yougotripped ,though I could predict that he would get trolled - it is one of those karmic things, as well as the fact that I had little to add good or bad really. That being said: Originally by: LRN
{snip} I will proceed with whatever funds are there and settle the problem with my reputation once and for all.
It is a tenet of my religion that no one is unredeemable, no one. However it would be misleading of me to say that your reputation problems will ever be resolved. In Eve, and irl too, you only get one clean reputation. After that, you'll forever have to carry, and deal with, the stains of past actions. So while I think it to your credit that you'll proceed onward, regardless of the public response, I do not think that you will ever be considered trustworthy. Again, that being said I'll match Ricdic's donation - whatever it may eventually be. (I'm still not back in Eve yet but I'll have Athre watch this thread and wire you the funds from my corp wallet when Ric's bid is locked in.)
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean. |
LRN
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.05.18 21:25:00 -
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Edited by: LRN on 18/05/2008 21:24:58
Thank you Shar. I will put the money to good use.
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Starlight Horizons
Starlight Horizons Corporation
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.05.18 21:32:00 -
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I have quite enjoyed reading your post over the last few weeks. I think change is needed, we may not see it right away, but it will come someday.
I sent 10 million isk at the 20% rate.
P.S. Personal money, not related to my IPO
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LRN
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.05.18 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Starlight Horizons
I have quite enjoyed reading your post over the last few weeks. I think change is needed, we may not see it right away, but it will come someday.
I sent 10 million isk at the 20% rate.
P.S. Personal money, not related to my IPO
Thank you. I'm under heavy medicamentation to prevent me from trolling.  Joking.
Hopefully I will be able to return the favor in the future or even help you in some way or the other. I do own a JF you know.
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jna
Caldari
Black Ash Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.05.18 22:03:00 -
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Well, jeez. It's a winner almost every way it unfolds, assuming the unfoldment isn't actually on this rather small total amount.
Count me in for 500M @20%.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.05.18 22:39:00 -
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Not to derail or anything but I think you, LRN, and Ricdic missed a chance to work together. An ideal chance at that yet both of your inclinations towards each other may be hurting your business prospects for purely personal reasons. (An acceptable choice in my book though - If I don't like you I won't like your isk either!)
LRN: You overextended yourself reaching for a very good opportunity. You need financing to continue and are willing to offer a good rate of return.
Ricdic: Here's someone who is holding some recently acquired hard assets (collateral) that could be used to secure a loan ... maybe even at a favorable rate to the applicant.
As I see it, the bpo's in question were bought at something of a steal. Allow them to be used as collateral valuing at 75% of NPC price. This'll get you approval for a loan, though the interest rate will have to be haggled over, and you won't have to deal with the public trolling. If you default on the loan you lose out so I doubt you'll default.
eBank, and Ricdic, couldn't care less about ripping you off for 2 - 3 billion that we, or he, would make if your bpo's were not returned. And, as an added bonus, if your bpo's are stolen you finally get to flame and troll eBank, and Ricdic, with some conviction.
/me shrugs
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean. |
Athre
Minmatar
The HIgher Standard
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Posted - 2008.05.18 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
(I'm still not back in Eve yet but I'll have Athre watch this thread and wire you the funds from my corp wallet when Ric's bid is locked in.)
Understood and noted.
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Roguehalo
Caldari
RH Ship Brokers
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Posted - 2008.05.19 00:24:00 -
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200m sent
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MilowFV
Echo Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.19 05:42:00 -
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Ok I guess I have 2 quick questions. Do you want the ISK sent now and if so to whom, LRN?
I guess I will kick my bid up to 350 million ISK total at 20 percent also.
On aside note when to use who and whom allways seem to confuse me.
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Ambo
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.19 07:43:00 -
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I can't believe so many people are giving this credibility. Who knows, it might actually be a genuine attempt to run an IPO. I wouldn't bank on it though, if it's not a straight up scam (and I doubt it is for a paltry 5 bil), then it's an attempt to raise the profile of a self-confessed scammer wannabe in order to go bigger in the future.
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LRN
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.05.19 07:47:00 -
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Originally by: MilowFV
Ok I guess I have 2 quick questions. Do you want the ISK sent now and if so to whom, LRN?
I guess I will kick my bid up to 350 million ISK total at 20 percent also.
On aside note when to use who and whom allways seem to confuse me.
This char. I've already started buying raw materials, the sooner I get the funding the better.
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LRN
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.05.19 08:12:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
Not to derail or anything but I think you, LRN, and Ricdic missed a chance to work together. An ideal chance at that yet both of your inclinations towards each other may be hurting your business prospects for purely personal reasons. (An acceptable choice in my book though - If I don't like you I won't like your isk either!)
LRN: You overextended yourself reaching for a very good opportunity. You need financing to continue and are willing to offer a good rate of return.
Ricdic: Here's someone who is holding some recently acquired hard assets (collateral) that could be used to secure a loan ... maybe even at a favorable rate to the applicant.
As I see it, the bpo's in question were bought at something of a steal. Allow them to be used as collateral valuing at 75% of NPC price. This'll get you approval for a loan, though the interest rate will have to be haggled over, and you won't have to deal with the public trolling. If you default on the loan you lose out so I doubt you'll default.
eBank, and Ricdic, couldn't care less about ripping you off for 2 - 3 billion that we, or he, would make if your bpo's were not returned. And, as an added bonus, if your bpo's are stolen you finally get to flame and troll eBank, and Ricdic, with some conviction.
/me shrugs
I have nothing against working with Ricdic or Ebank, however, as I was telling someone that wanted to invest a great deal of isk but also remain anonymous, it is my desire that this bond request benefits the Eve community at large and not a single entity, while also improving whatever reputation I have in the process.
Hopefully (since a 20% return is more than possible) it will also spark a general interest for running IPOs even in the current market climate while providing an incentive for people to assume risks as part of the normal investment process.
I am also aware of my part in destabilizing the secondary market and I am deeply sorry for those whose honest plans I've hindered.
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