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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.05.20 13:51:00 -
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It's apparent that corp jumping is now the official solution to war avoidance. We've just dec'd 3 corps, and 2 of them immediately created alt corps and have started the jumping process.
My idea was for a group of like minded corps to help one another out. For example, say you dec a corp and they start leapfrogging to alt corps. You want them dead, but have run out of war dec slots. So you get in touch with another corp who has a free slot and wouldn't mind putting the hurt on those people in exchange for you decing a corphopping group of their enemies.
I am sure there are corps out there wanting to try pvp but don't really want to dec a 40 man corp with their 5 members. This would be a great opportunity to get your feet wet. A small amount of targets in a concentrated area for you.
I've got a few alt corps I can use as well as my own corp that I would use slots on. If you need help and we have an open slot, we can dec the corp for you. You do the same for us, or for other corps that join in the effort.
Anyone interested? 
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Smackles
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Posted - 2008.05.20 14:06:00 -
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No. Cry some more about the same issue, maybe ccp might give you a tissue this time.
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Voltain
BEER Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.20 14:08:00 -
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Whaaaat? Why don't you just dec corps who want to fight, that be where the funs at shirley?
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Omegamale
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Posted - 2008.05.20 14:16:00 -
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 Originally by: Voltain
Whaaaat? Why don't you just dec corps who want to fight, that be where the funs at shirley?
Nah they dont want good fights, they want easy ones.
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JOSEPHx
Caldari
Mercenary Forces
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.20 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: Voltain
Whaaaat? Why don't you just dec corps who want to fight, that be where the funs at shirley?
The clue is in the name. "WAR" dec not "Consentual PvP flag"
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Smackles
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Posted - 2008.05.20 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: JOSEPHx
Originally by: Voltain
Whaaaat? Why don't you just dec corps who want to fight, that be where the funs at shirley?
The clue is in the name. "WAR" dec not "Consentual PvP flag"
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The clue is in Nexa's constant crying. Don't want to cry? don't target a corp that will do everything they can to avoid fighting.
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Dariah Stardweller
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Posted - 2008.05.20 15:02:00 -
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Edited by: Dariah Stardweller on 20/05/2008 15:02:44
To be honest, Nexa is not really whining here, he's trying to figure out a way to dec ppl who don't want to fight. That's better than being a little ***** about it imo 
Edit: Though deccing ppl who fight back would be a more simple solution. But hey, some ppl like to play it the hard way.
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.05.20 15:04:00 -
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Here comes the carebear alt parade! I'm guessing your mains are too afraid to post?
Your tears are masked as insults against me. When crappy corps like ours band together and tag team corphoppers, it's obviously going to affect you so you lash out.
You complain when people post about corp jumping. You say adapt and overcome. Now you hurl insults when I bring up a viable suggestion. I am getting to you. You will all get yours.
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Hanneshannes
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Posted - 2008.05.20 15:07:00 -
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You expect ppl who don't actually want to fight any war to stay where they are better yet, fly up right to your ship with a big "Shoot me" painted on them?
Just like you don't like them running away, they don't like to stay and fight.
I agree, it is somewhat ******** but if you wanna avoid that, dec ppl who wanna fight.
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.05.20 15:10:00 -
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How does one tell a corp that will fight? I mean lots of corps agress us and we dec them and they run. We dec corps labeled as pvp corps, they run.
There are no guarantees in Eve. Yes you can dec corps who like to fight, but the problem is, usually those same corps who like to fight, do not like to lose and once you put the hurt on them, off they go to the alt corps.
I have no problem with people jumping corp to npc corps to avoid war. It's the alt corps they create within minutes of the war mail going out. It's the ones jumping to the 4 different corps within minutes of a war mail going out.
It's to the point instead of decing 3 corps at a time, we have to dec 1 corp, wait to see if they're gonna insta-jump, then dec their alt corp, then the same with the 3rd corp, then the same with the 4th corp, etc.
This seemed like it might be a good way to ease the hassle, make friends and pew pew.
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Exlegion
New Light
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.20 15:13:00 -
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Edited by: Exlegion on 20/05/2008 15:14:46
Originally by: Dariah Stardweller
To be honest, Nexa is not really whining here, he's trying to figure out a way to dec ppl who don't want to fight. That's better than being a little ***** about it imo
Edit: Though deccing ppl who fight back would be a more simple solution. But hey, some ppl like to play it the hard way.
Well put.
I'm as big a carebear as they come in Eve. And I'm not a fan of Nexa's playing style. But 1) she isn't whining. And 2) She has a right to play the game how she pleases (within the rules).
One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Gang Starr |
Hanneshannes
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Posted - 2008.05.20 15:13:00 -
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Well, that's empire war for you :/
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.05.20 15:30:00 -
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Originally by: Exlegion
Edited by: Exlegion on 20/05/2008 15:17:59
Originally by: Dariah Stardweller
To be honest, Nexa is not really whining here, he's trying to figure out a way to dec ppl who don't want to fight. That's better than being a little ***** about it imo
Edit: Though deccing ppl who fight back would be a more simple solution. But hey, some ppl like to play it the hard way.
Well put.
I'm as big a carebear as they come in Eve. And I'm not a fan of Nexa's playing style. But 1) she isn't whining here. And 2) she has a right to play the game how she pleases (within the rules).
I think what a lot of people, especially the carebearish types seem to not even consider is, what the reason behind the dec is.
I have always admitted lots of our wars are random but lots are because those corps did something to us.
The other night I sat on a gate and some idiot decided it would be fun to target me and bump me for 20 minutes. When I threatened him he kept it up so we dec'd his corp. He wished me good luck and immediately created an alt corp to jump to.
So there's plenty of people out there picking fights who are jumping corps. I would think if you are out and about and decide to harass a piratey type player and they threaten you and you keep it up, then you're really looking for a fight. Or you're thinking because you have 10x the members of the pirate corp, or you think because you're in an alliance they wont attack, or you think they're full of hot air.
Again, I would have no issue with people just leaving corp to an NPC corp, but the fact they're creating corps to jump to and avoid war, well it makes me wan't to follow them even more. 
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Lithalnas
Amarr
Headcrabs
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Posted - 2008.05.20 15:35:00 -
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got something smallish, like 30 or so people i could solo?
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.05.20 15:38:00 -
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How about 6 people and growing, all flying t2/faction BS who run missions all day long? Drop me an email and I will send you the alt corp and the roster. I can also provide locations and alt probage and remote support if needed at times.
They will likely have a lot more people as the day goes on. It's barely been 24 hours since the war started so a lot of them have yet to log in to drop roles, but all the active ones online have done so quickly and jumped.
I've already put the dec in on my alts corp, and a few other people have expressed interest.
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Bleeshtar
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Posted - 2008.05.20 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Nexa Necis
I have always admitted lots of our wars are random
Well that explains alot.
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Smantha Dering
Caldari
Sam's Space Guys
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Posted - 2008.05.20 16:17:00 -
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I agree with Nexa that this is a problem, however, this issue has been covered already. I will say your previous posts on the subject have definately fallen well within my defininition of a whine, that said, this is not a whine, Nexa has clearly presented a solution, a viable one at that. Getting back on topic I think with enough cooperation it would work. I'm a carebear myself so I'll decline the offer thanks.
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Tsiros
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Posted - 2008.05.20 16:30:00 -
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so let me think. i am a carebear and i have a corp with my 10 mates. you start war on us but we dont really fancy pvp. so you think that by setting up a new alt corp you will be able to hit us in our alt corp.
have you actually thought that i could just have the corps under my alt chars and when i jump corps (and you jump to in order to continue the war) i can very simply jump to npc corp?
what is the result? i am on npc corp so there is no war for me, and you get to pay while you have a war in my alt corp.
interesting. if you really want to spend your isk just give them to me.
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Lithalnas
Amarr
Headcrabs
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Posted - 2008.05.20 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tsiros
so let me think. i am a carebear and i have a corp with my 10 mates. you start war on us but we dont really fancy pvp. so you think that by setting up a new alt corp you will be able to hit us in our alt corp.
have you actually thought that i could just have the corps under my alt chars and when i jump corps (and you jump to in order to continue the war) i can very simply jump to npc corp?
what is the result? i am on npc corp so there is no war for me, and you get to pay while you have a war in my alt corp.
interesting. if you really want to spend your isk just give them to me.
for the privilege of being in a player corp, you should be war dec'able, if you wish to be in an NPC corp there is absolutely nothing we can do.
And smacking in forums and in game is worth the 16 mil it could be costing them to wardec you.
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Tsiros
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Posted - 2008.05.20 16:53:00 -
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the game is for fun. that means that some enjoy pvp, others mining and others playing around for a,b,c reasons.
a corp is not just a corp when you have the same name under your char. its also a corp when they share the same ventrilo chanell or when they have a chat chanell in eve.
you dont really need an actual corp in order to have one. its all about the people and how they feel/interact between them. dare i say its the common ideas they have when in the game.
its not in our interest the reasons why some people form corps, and what is/shoud be the code of honor in corps and wars.
my posting was just a reply on what those that wish to avoid a war could do.
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.05.20 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Tsiros
so let me think. i am a carebear and i have a corp with my 10 mates. you start war on us but we dont really fancy pvp. so you think that by setting up a new alt corp you will be able to hit us in our alt corp.
have you actually thought that i could just have the corps under my alt chars and when i jump corps (and you jump to in order to continue the war) i can very simply jump to npc corp?
what is the result? i am on npc corp so there is no war for me, and you get to pay while you have a war in my alt corp.
interesting. if you really want to spend your isk just give them to me.
You have suceeded in making my brain hurt. I think you're saying my efforts are a waste of time? Wall of text FTL.
Just because you're a carebear doesn't mean you wont like this idea. As I said, you can use it as an opportunity to get your feet wet with some non-consensual pvp. Try it, you might like it.
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Faife
Noctiscion
Twilight Trade Cartel
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Posted - 2008.05.20 17:16:00 -
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this thread is filled with so many flavors of fail. i love it. it's like a chocolate covered bacon strip of fail, dipped in a fine plum sauce of fail, baked in a nice white wine. of fail. in a failoven.
err, sorry, slightly carried away. please do go on everyone.
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fux lol
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.05.20 17:18:00 -
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Edited by: fux lol on 20/05/2008 17:19:26
the amount of carebearing "omg declare war on a corp who will fight" response saddens me. those corps just dont really seem to exist, i know we have dec'd several corps within the last month who claim to be "pvp" and have simply hopped to alt corps or stayed logged off for the entire duration of the dec..
YAY
Even to the point where i dec a 30-40 man corp with a ONE MAN alt corp.. and we see instant corp hoppings etc its very silly lol.
Nexa Necis, ive got 8 spare slots :)
(alt post, but err, not really an alt, well.. bah.. that kinda ruins the post a small bit.. rawr..)
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Deva Blackfire
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.05.20 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Nexa Necis
Just suicide gank them till kingdom come. "waah waah i hopped corp to evade death and im dead" - wont that be sweet?
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KapnKaboom
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.05.20 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Just suicide gank them till kingdom come. "waah waah i hopped corp to evade death and im dead" - wont that be sweet?
That actually requires that they take a risk and put something on the line. (their sec status and a few million to fit an expendable ship) That's the complete opposite of what the cryrats are looking for. It's easy kills or bust for them. Incidentally, that's how you also tell the difference between the pirates and the cryrats. The cryrats are here on the message boards crying about not having any easy targets to gank while the pirates are busy killing targets in the game right now. 
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Rhatar Khurin
Minmatar
WE ARE ONE
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Posted - 2008.05.20 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: Lithalnas
got something smallish, like 30 or so people i could solo?
Hehe, coming from someone who has wardecced randomly a 4 person industrial corp ^^
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Janus Cohen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.20 17:36:00 -
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Edited by: Janus Cohen on 20/05/2008 17:37:33
Edited by: Janus Cohen on 20/05/2008 17:37:05
Dont mean for this to be as extremely off topic as it is, but why dont Combat types just join up with the industry types for their combat fix? It seems Nexa is deccing every corp she can find, and it seems like a great way to find some good combat. I think this is what nexa is trying to cultivate with her massive wardec campaings, but I could just be out there.... anyways my two cents. carry on.
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Tsiros
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Posted - 2008.05.20 17:50:00 -
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some call me carebear, others call me noob.
i call my self a noob that is a bit older than 2 months old and not ready for pvp.
i just expressed opinion on a question/subject you set as a possibility on your thoughts that you should take into consideration for those that want to avoid war/pvp.
p.s. one should fight when he/she can, and when ready. not when is not. is that a carebear?
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Lithalnas
Amarr
Headcrabs
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Posted - 2008.05.20 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Rhatar Khurin
Originally by: Lithalnas
got something smallish, like 30 or so people i could solo?
Hehe, coming from someone who has wardecced randomly a 4 person industrial corp ^^
you had 7 a while ago, and i just came off of a war with an alliance, wanted smaller fish.
thanks for posting BTW, i added you to the addressbook for later reference.
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Strak Yogorn
Amarr
Mind Warpers
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Posted - 2008.05.20 18:00:00 -
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people not willing to fight should stay in npc corps, otherwise there should be some kind of timer, preventing corphopping more than once a week or something like that.
dont like it, stay in npc corp, want playercorp advantages, accept the risk - should be pretty much in line with the whole cold harsh thingie and risk/reward ... after all, ppl choose to join corps, so they choose the risk as well..
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