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Deathifier Minmatar Carebears Must Die Ltd.	Posted - 2008.05.21 08:25:00 - [61] Originally by: Tigerfish Torpedo Originally by: Nexa Necis How about 6 people and growing, all flying t2/faction BS who run missions all day long? Drop me an email and I will send you the alt corp and the roster. I can also provide locations and alt probage and remote support if needed at times. They will likely have a lot more people as the day goes on. It's barely been 24 hours since the war started so a lot of them have yet to log in to drop roles, but all the active ones online have done so quickly and jumped. I've already put the dec in on my alts corp, and a few other people have expressed interest. An interesting idea, I'll grant you. As supportive as I am in the planning behind this venture, I really must ask; What stops a corp jumper from sitting in the noob corps (such as State War Acedemy) if squeezed multiple times? Surely they'll learn and avoid player run corps if their only goal in game is to run missions? Tiger. Well, if they're hiding in an npc corp and running missions in a faction fit BS I'd form up a gang and suicide 'em. If they're going to play in such a lame manner, grief the **** out of them.
Garmon Light inc	Posted - 2008.05.21 20:13:00 - [62] Originally by: Lithalnas Originally by: Lurana Lay Hire the noob mercs to dec yourself if you want pvp. If you want to bother people who have no skills, don't want to fight and have no interest in your brand of pvp then whatver annoyance you get in return is perfectly fine, even commendable. In short, man up and find someone worth fighting, join rvb, go 0.0, dec some goons or bob or someone with real teeth. Barring that, quit whining. I like long odds, not blob odds. I war with smallish corps because i cant fight any more than 4 vs 1s, even 2 vs 1s give me trouble if they set up right. Hi there chest beating klingong warrior person __________________________________ Vids about me raping peeps in my trusty battle boat
Lithalnas Headcrabs	Posted - 2008.05.21 21:10:00 - [63] Originally by: Garmon Originally by: Lithalnas Originally by: Lurana Lay Hire the noob mercs to dec yourself if you want pvp. If you want to bother people who have no skills, don't want to fight and have no interest in your brand of pvp then whatver annoyance you get in return is perfectly fine, even commendable. In short, man up and find someone worth fighting, join rvb, go 0.0, dec some goons or bob or someone with real teeth. Barring that, quit whining. I like long odds, not blob odds. I war with smallish corps because i cant fight any more than 4 vs 1s, even 2 vs 1s give me trouble if they set up right. Hi there chest beating klingong warrior person If someone hands me e-peen stoking on a plater im inclined to take it.
Arcani Victus	Posted - 2008.05.21 22:38:00 - [64] I believe a viable solution would be to have the members who leave a corp during a war still be valid war targets (or flashing red) for 72 hours.
Nexa Necis The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.05.22 04:32:00 - [65] Well, since we dec'd their upstart alt corp, they've jumped ship to an existing corp in an alliance. Guess who already had alt in that alliance? Guess who is going to dec that alliance soon? I'd like to thank the T E R C I O S alliance for harboring the corp jumpers in their time of need. I am pretty sure they will reap the benefits of those actions soon enough.
Ki An Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.05.22 08:45:00 - [66] Lotsa chicken ****s in this thread. Guess Nexa's got you all riled up, eh? Gogo TRAPS! Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
Dingo	Posted - 2008.05.22 11:12:00 - [67] Nexa I don't understand your obsession with pursuing corps that don't want to fight? At the end of the day all you end up doing is sitting outside a station for hours on end getting bored. It's free choice that really makes this game for me, and I like the choice not to fight if it suits me, you really need to get over it and move onto a corp that will put up a fight. I have two accounts if one gets dec'd I leave that charicter logged in at a station to give them something to do and carry on playing on the other account, much simpler than having multiple corps to jump to.
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency	Posted - 2008.05.22 12:21:00 - [68] Originally by: Dingo Nexa I don't understand your obsession with pursuing corps that don't want to fight? At the end of the day all you end up doing is sitting outside a station for hours on end getting bored. It's free choice that really makes this game for me, and I like the choice not to fight if it suits me, you really need to get over it and move onto a corp that will put up a fight. I have two accounts if one gets dec'd I leave that charicter logged in at a station to give them something to do and carry on playing on the other account, much simpler than having multiple corps to jump to. Um. For the money? Why is it so difficult to understand this basic principle? For "fun fights" (1) Find PvP corp -> dec that corp -> war made mutual _ fun for all But fun fights are expensive and stuff has to be paid for For ISK (1) Find fat rich mission-runner/miner corp -> dec that corp -> rich tubby bears pay up (or learn to fight or hire mercs or whatever). Both activities are equally legitimate. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Riho Mercenary Forces Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.22 12:48:00 - [69] carebear corphopper tears are so sad in this thread... grow some balls and fight back... if a corp doesnt fight for its right to exsist (spelling sux), then then they are to be destroyed. ---------------------------------- Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
Nachtigal Night	Posted - 2008.05.22 13:02:00 - [70] Originally by: Dingo Nexa I don't understand your obsession with pursuing corps that don't want to fight? At the end of the day all you end up doing is sitting outside a station for hours on end getting bored. It's free choice that really makes this game for me, and I like the choice not to fight if it suits me, you really need to get over it and move onto a corp that will put up a fight. I have two accounts if one gets dec'd I leave that charicter logged in at a station to give them something to do and carry on playing on the other account, much simpler than having multiple corps to jump to. Well I just find that TRAPS are just Bored and want to make a name for them self, Plus only pick on the week players with low SP and Skills, Come on dude Grow up
Dingo	Posted - 2008.05.22 13:06:00 - [71] This is not about money this is about your hurt pride and the fact you can't cope with the fact that some people are able to get away from you. If it was about ISK you'd quickly move onto the next corp rather than using up war slots trying to pin this corp down.
Nexa Necis The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.05.22 13:35:00 - [72] Edited by: Nexa Necis on 22/05/2008 13:47:42 Edited by: Nexa Necis on 22/05/2008 13:39:22 You alts are crazy. You have no integrity and no pride. If you were a corp that does wars and say every time you dec'd a corp, they jumped ship and you didn't follow. Then you will be known as a corp who is basically looking for a quick buck and a corp who lacks persistence. When people do something to earn a dec, they want the easy way out. They leave their corpmates behind, they lie, they join new corps under false pretenses or the create alt corps to repeatedly jump to. We do not give up. Just because you quit easily and lack tenacity and let people off the hook instantly doesn't mean the rest of us do. War is not about picking on a stronger target. Wars are generally about picking on someone you can probably beat. However, we rarely research these corps. Unlike you, we do not assume all our targets are weak, low skilled, non-pvp carebears who hate fighting. When I see a group of them in command ships and faction BS, I think they would be down for a fight if it was brought to them. It's not my fault they run or hate fighting. I mean if you hate fighting why do you have 3 different BS and a command ship for the same pilot? I have alts that run missions. They do not need 4 different ships to do it. Most people use a single mission fit ship and run them. Why do they need a Rokh to use as a salvager and a CNR to use are the mission ship? To me, that screams, "I am so rich, please gank me." We dec'd a group based in low sec with a POS for smack talking and spouting lies about us. I didn't look at member count or who they were affiliated with or anything. My corpmate said, "Hey these guys just popped me, I offered a GF and now they are smacking me and talking about the corp in local non-stop. Can we dec them please?" The vote instantly went in. Keep insulting our war targets. It becomes you.
Nachtigal Night	Posted - 2008.05.22 13:42:00 - [73] Have you heard of the old saying, Sick and Stones, I have had a few people shouting in local and i just ignore them,
Nexa Necis The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.05.22 13:55:00 - [74] Originally by: Nachtigal Night Have you heard of the old saying, Sick and Stones, I have had a few people shouting in local and i just ignore them, So just because you ignore people saying you're a homo and ranting on about how your mom's vag smells, doesn't mean the rest of us do. I like how you condemn everyone elses play style that differs from yours. If we don't play your way, by your ethics and rules, then we're all lame, weak and losers. Thanks for insulting the entire player base.
Nachtigal Night	Posted - 2008.05.22 14:02:00 - [75] Originally by: Nexa Necis Originally by: Nachtigal Night Have you heard of the old saying, Sick and Stones, I have had a few people shouting in local and i just ignore them, So just because you ignore people saying you're a homo and ranting on about how your mom's vag smells, doesn't mean the rest of us do. I like how you condemn everyone elses play style that differs from yours. If we don't play your way, by your ethics and rules, then we're all lame, weak and losers. Thanks for insulting the entire player base. Now Now you know fine well im not saying that, All im saying is your way and ethics and rules, just does not seem to be fair
Kano Sekor modro CORPVS DELICTI	Posted - 2008.05.22 14:11:00 - [76] dear ccp insert cool down timer on corp jumps maximum 1 per month plx. ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ki An Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.05.22 14:27:00 - [77] Originally by: Nachtigal Night Now Now you know fine well im not saying that, All im saying is your way and ethics and rules, just does not seem to be fair Wait, so you think it's fair that people that smack incessantly, provoke you needlessly, scam you, kill your friends and basically acts like tossers should have a "get-out-of-jail-free-card"? That's what we are talking about here, after all. Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
Voltain BEER Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:03:00 - [78] Originally by: Nachtigal Night Have you heard of the old saying, Sick and Stones, No
Lithalnas Headcrabs	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:19:00 - [79] Well Nexa sent me a corp to wardec, half bailed already and the war doesnt start for another 10 hours or so. And I am a 1 man corp. ------------- fixed for greater eve content
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:51:00 - [80] Originally by: Ki An Originally by: Nachtigal Night Now Now you know fine well im not saying that, All im saying is your way and ethics and rules, just does not seem to be fair Wait, so you think it's fair that people that smack incessantly, provoke you needlessly, scam you, kill your friends and basically acts like tossers should have a "get-out-of-jail-free-card"? That's what we are talking about here, after all. The fun starts when these people who "just want to be left alone" start howling for blood when some noob in a destroyer starts salvaging a few mission wrecks. CNR vs salvaging Catalyst is a fair fight c/d? CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Deathifier Carebears Must Die Ltd.	Posted - 2008.05.22 17:27:00 - [81] Edited by: Deathifier on 22/05/2008 17:27:47 Originally by: Nexa Necis Originally by: Nachtigal Night Have you heard of the old saying, Sick and Stones, I have had a few people shouting in local and i just ignore them, So just because you ignore people saying you're a homo and ranting on about how your mom's vag smells, doesn't mean the rest of us do. I like how you condemn everyone elses play style that differs from yours. If we don't play your way, by your ethics and rules, then we're all lame, weak and losers. Thanks for insulting the entire player base. ok, don't go overboard lest we have to bring out the violins here Seriously, though you're a grown man in his mid 30's with kids, by your stage in life you really should have a thicker hide. Especially when the smackers are most likely spotty angst ridden adolescents I'm not saying not to dec them to teach em a lesson, but coming on forums portraying yourself as some sort of victim of bigotry and abuse is ott, and destroys your reputation as a tough-guy pirate character in-game. Seriously dude, your doing youself no favours, just cease with the forum drama and channel all your effort into making them pay in game
Nexa Necis The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.05.22 18:13:00 - [82] Originally by: Deathifier ok, don't go overboard lest we have to bring out the violins here Seriously, though you're a grown man in his mid 30's with kids, by your stage in life you really should have a thicker hide. Especially when the smackers are most likely spotty angst ridden adolescents I'm not saying not to dec them to teach em a lesson, but coming on forums portraying yourself as some sort of victim of bigotry and abuse is ott, and destroys your reputation as a tough-guy pirate character in-game. Seriously dude, your doing youself no favours, just cease with the forum drama and channel all your effort into making them pay in game It doesn't bother me in the least when they smack in real life, in game it does. In game CCP has many options to exact revenge. One of them is a war dec. What my real life situation is has nothing to do with how I choose to play my characters in a game. I have characters in carebear corps as well as large alliances. I do not smack talk on those characters nor do I engage in any activity that will bring unwanted retribution to my corpmates or my alliancemates. Nexa isn't a tough guy in game either. I get beat plenty in game and have never professed to be the best pvp'er. I do ok. I am in no way a victim, and not really sure where you're getting that from. All I did was make a suggestion of a fun way to combat the rampant corp jumping that takes place nowadays. I got a lot of responses and have created a new address book folder labeled, "corpjumphelp". I guessed right figuring there are a lot of smaller casual corps who wanted to cut their teeth in pvp in a small scale environment. I mean look at Lith, he is a 1 man corp, he dec'd a pvp capable 10 man corp, and they jumped the minute the dec went out. Crazy.
Dexion Slayer Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2008.05.22 18:31:00 - [83] TBH i support the idea to locking members into a corp that has been wardecced like so : "You cannot quit your current corporation as it has been wardecced, please wait untill the wardec is over." But seriuosly nexa, not to rain on your parade or nething, this is the how manieth thread you made about this? Do you think ccp will actually change the game mechanics for us pvpers? Imo ccp is more favorish towards carebears then to piwats. Anyways still good luck mate :)
Noodle Pastaman	Posted - 2008.05.22 19:41:00 - [84] Originally by: Dexion Slayer TBH i support the idea to locking members into a corp that has been wardecced like so : "You cannot quit your current corporation as it has been wardecced, please wait untill the wardec is over." But seriuosly nexa, not to rain on your parade or nething, this is the how manieth thread you made about this? Do you think ccp will actually change the game mechanics for us pvpers? Imo ccp is more favorish towards carebears then to piwats. Anyways still good luck mate :) Except continuously targetting an individual as (opposed to a corp) is griefing ,petionable and against the the EULA you sign when you login. The current situation there is more chance of war decs being removed completely (if ir put to a vote you know that is what would happen) than individuals being locked into a corp
Nexa Necis The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.05.22 21:49:00 - [85] Originally by: Noodle Pastaman Originally by: Dexion Slayer TBH i support the idea to locking members into a corp that has been wardecced like so : "You cannot quit your current corporation as it has been wardecced, please wait untill the wardec is over." But seriuosly nexa, not to rain on your parade or nething, this is the how manieth thread you made about this? Do you think ccp will actually change the game mechanics for us pvpers? Imo ccp is more favorish towards carebears then to piwats. Anyways still good luck mate :) Except continuously targetting an individual as (opposed to a corp) is griefing ,petionable and against the the EULA you sign when you login. The current situation there is more chance of war decs being removed completely (if ir put to a vote you know that is what would happen) than individuals being locked into a corp Completely false and a total myth. If this was true, I would've been banned long ago. I have had, according to my victims, hundreds of petitions against me and my corp for this and nothing has ever happened. You can read this story http://www.eve-pirate.com/index.php?/archives/881-We-Have-a-Winner!-Opps,-I-Mean-whiner!.html Basically some idiot carebear player mouthed off to me, claiming it to be in jest, later admitting he thought he was safe in Empire space. I dec'd him, he immediately jumped corp and was upset because he forgot to put a placeholder in for his corp, and his corp name was attached to a website out of game. He had no clue how wars worked and claimed the GM's were telling him to petition me over and over and "build a case" against me for harassment and violation of the rules. I decided to pick apart his lies and post excerpts from the EULA, FAQ and Rules and Policies sections of CCP's website. I also sent a petition on my own behalf to ensure me following my promise to dec him and suicide him at every turn was 100% legal. I sent it twice to get 2 different GM's. Both confirmed war decs, ninja-looting/salvaging, and suicides are 100% legal and you can do it as often as you like to one person all you want. The only time it becomes a violation is if you're being racist, homophobic, slanderous, threating RL harassment or using in game exploits or stupid crap like bumping and dropping cans to block them. I have never ever seen a war dec retracted by GM's under the circumstances of harassment. They specifically explain in the rules that war decs are valid regardless of reason or the target. So please stop spreading completely false information.
Kambien	Posted - 2008.05.22 22:18:00 - [86] Griefer tears are the sweetest
Ki An Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.05.22 22:33:00 - [87] Originally by: Kambien Griefer tears are the sweetest Only carebear tears in this thread, but keep the dream alive! Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
Lithalnas Headcrabs	Posted - 2008.05.22 23:36:00 - [88] Nexa, i need new targets mine all ran away. and war decs in any form are allowed. Only bannable offense is hacking or RL threats really. ------------- fixed for greater eve content
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency	Posted - 2008.05.23 06:45:00 - [89] Originally by: Dexion Slayer TBH i support the idea to locking members into a corp that has been wardecced like so : "You cannot quit your current corporation as it has been wardecced, please wait untill the wardec is over." But seriuosly nexa, not to rain on your parade or nething, this is the how manieth thread you made about this? Do you think ccp will actually change the game mechanics for us pvpers? Imo ccp is more favorish towards carebears then to piwats. Anyways still good luck mate :) Hmmm, that might be going a little too far. I would propose the following alternatives: (1) That members of that corp can leave, but that they can't join another corp while the wardec is active. (2) That they can join another corp, but that the wardec is automatically extended to that corp as well (I favour this one). Of course, there should most certainly be a pop-up warning along the lines of "this player is currently under war sanctions by the terms of the Yulai Convention. If you accept him in to your corp then your corp will immediately be in a state of war with WhateverCorp" to prevent the obvious abuse. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Tsiros	Posted - 2008.05.23 07:28:00 - [90] Honestly now, why i see more crying about the subject of the thread from the wannabe pvpiers or those that actually think they are pvpiers, in comparison to the carebears that have to deal with them??

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