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Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency	Posted - 2008.05.23 07:34:00 - [91] Originally by: Tsiros Honestly now, why i see more crying about the subject of the thread from the wannabe pvpiers or those that actually think they are pvpiers, in comparison to the carebears that have to deal with them?? Well your post just helped even the balance a little. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Sasha Steel	Posted - 2008.05.23 08:31:00 - [92] what happend to the harshness of this game? i just returned after a break,and the rule was then, if you can't defend yourself you don't form a corp and corp hopping to escape a war dec was a x-ploit, when did this change?
Rafael Tonka	Posted - 2008.05.23 09:59:00 - [93] Edited by: Rafael Tonka on 23/05/2008 10:00:36 I have a rather different but far more realistic solution to this problem. As in real life, if someone runs from a war they are granted refugee status. They still belong to the corp for the duration of the war dec, however all that they can take with them is 1 ship full of goods. All of the rest of their belongings - including mods, skill books, ships etc.. all go into a holding area in the stations where they are currently located. Should their corp end up losiing the war, all of their remaining goods and ships are then transferred to the victors as spoils of war. If their corp wins the war then their goods will be returned at the discretion of the CEO. At all times for the duration of the war dec they remain valid targets and they gain nothing from running away.
Tsiros	Posted - 2008.05.23 11:17:00 - [94] one thing that we shouldnt forget is the usefullness of all those so called carebear. they are the income/production makers. EVE is a game with a really good economy. They keep it running. if the game turns into a total pvp machine then all those that dont fancy pvp will ''fly'' away. so in the end no more easy kills, no more easy production, no more easy access to almost anything they do/produce. so in the end it will be the pvpiers with a very bad economy and lots of their alts in order to make the game run again. they made those chars as they like the economy/production aspects of the game. had ccp any interests into making this game a pvp game, those chars wouldnt have been in the options. so after 4 pages of posts, i think that they are needed and should be left to ''fight'' in which ever way they fancy. besides there are many wannabe pvp corps and lots of 0.0 areas to go for killing.
Ki An Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.05.23 15:07:00 - [95] Originally by: Tsiros one thing that we shouldnt forget is the usefullness of all those so called carebear. they are the income/production makers. EVE is a game with a really good economy. They keep it running. if the game turns into a total pvp machine then all those that dont fancy pvp will ''fly'' away. so in the end no more easy kills, no more easy production, no more easy access to almost anything they do/produce. so in the end it will be the pvpiers with a very bad economy and lots of their alts in order to make the game run again. they made those chars as they like the economy/production aspects of the game. had ccp any interests into making this game a pvp game, those chars wouldnt have been in the options. so after 4 pages of posts, i think that they are needed and should be left to ''fight'' in which ever way they fancy. besides there are many wannabe pvp corps and lots of 0.0 areas to go for killing. This is a myth cultivated by true carebears. The harsh truth is: Carebears are not needed in Eve. PvPers are needed. All PvPers have means of income that normally encompass what is known as "carebearing activities". The people who does nothing but mine or missions and want nothing to do with the competitive side of Eve are not, nor ever where, needed. Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
Nexa Necis The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.05.23 15:25:00 - [96] This thread is being derailed guys. Let's keep it on track. I am getting a group of people that are interested and making a folder in my address book so I can send out mail to the group updating who needs help and who has open slots. Let's have some fun!
Cypher Run	Posted - 2008.05.23 15:35:00 - [97] Originally by: Ki An Originally by: Tsiros one thing that we shouldnt forget is the usefullness of all those so called carebear. they are the income/production makers. EVE is a game with a really good economy. They keep it running. if the game turns into a total pvp machine then all those that dont fancy pvp will ''fly'' away. so in the end no more easy kills, no more easy production, no more easy access to almost anything they do/produce. so in the end it will be the pvpiers with a very bad economy and lots of their alts in order to make the game run again. they made those chars as they like the economy/production aspects of the game. had ccp any interests into making this game a pvp game, those chars wouldnt have been in the options. so after 4 pages of posts, i think that they are needed and should be left to ''fight'' in which ever way they fancy. besides there are many wannabe pvp corps and lots of 0.0 areas to go for killing. This is a myth cultivated by true carebears. The harsh truth is: Carebears are not needed in Eve. PvPers are needed. All PvPers have means of income that normally encompass what is known as "carebearing activities". The people who does nothing but mine or missions and want nothing to do with the competitive side of Eve are not, nor ever where, needed. wow. what an egotistical statement to make . this is wrong in so many levels.
Tsiros	Posted - 2008.05.23 16:32:00 - [98] Originally by: Ki An This is a myth cultivated by true carebears. The harsh truth is: Carebears are not needed in Eve. PvPers are needed. All PvPers have means of income that normally encompass what is known as "carebearing activities". The people who does nothing but mine or missions and want nothing to do with the competitive side of Eve are not, nor ever where, needed. in that case dont forget to apply for developer in ccp and change the way the game is set in order to remove the mining/productive aspects of the game
Ki An Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.05.23 17:15:00 - [99] Originally by: Tsiros in that case dont forget to apply for developer in ccp and change the way the game is set in order to remove the mining/productive aspects of the game Read it again. That's how it is now. It happens to coincide with how I want it to be, but that's just a fortunate circumstance (and the fact that I researched the game before joining). Now, sorry Nexa. I'm done derailing. Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
Setana Manoro Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.24 11:37:00 - [100] Originally by: KapnKaboom Originally by: Deva Blackfire Just suicide gank them till kingdom come. "waah waah i hopped corp to evade death and im dead" - wont that be sweet? That actually requires that they take a risk and put something on the line. (their sec status and a few million to fit an expendable ship) That's the complete opposite of what the cryrats are looking for. It's easy kills or bust for them. Incidentally, that's how you also tell the difference between the pirates and the cryrats. The cryrats are here on the message boards crying about not having any easy targets to gank while the pirates are busy killing targets in the game right now. The cryrat you are smacking has the pair to post with his main and has fought against big odds, what have you done ? I don't think CCP quite realizes this, but the fact that now you can corpjump ad infinitum to avoid wars without being considered an exploit, has made more ppl stay in high-sec instead of going further into low-sec and 0.0. With one CCP giveth ideas, with another it ****s them up.
Arctur Ceti	Posted - 2008.05.24 12:06:00 - [101] Originally by: Setana Manoro I don't think CCP quite realizes this, but the fact that now you can corpjump ad infinitum to avoid wars without being considered an exploit, has made more ppl stay in high-sec instead of going further into low-sec and 0.0. With one CCP giveth ideas, with another it ****s them up. To be fair I think CCP's idea to populate low sec was scrapped when they decided to add HICs to the game.
Deathifier Carebears Must Die Ltd.	Posted - 2008.05.24 20:46:00 - [102] Originally by: Arctur Ceti Originally by: Setana Manoro I don't think CCP quite realizes this, but the fact that now you can corpjump ad infinitum to avoid wars without being considered an exploit, has made more ppl stay in high-sec instead of going further into low-sec and 0.0. With one CCP giveth ideas, with another it ****s them up. To be fair I think CCP's idea to populate low sec was scrapped when they decided to add HICs to the game. They should add a little of the rarer ores (normally found in 0.0) into lowsec. Would entice some more of the carebear/industrial types out into lowsec and liven things up a bit.
Flaming sambuka IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.05.24 21:32:00 - [103] LOL the really boring players again... there so boring. WE PLAY WITH OUR MEMBERS
cargo2000 Dirt Nap Squad	Posted - 2008.05.24 22:00:00 - [104] Originally by: Tsiros Originally by: Ki An This is a myth cultivated by true carebears. The harsh truth is: Carebears are not needed in Eve. PvPers are needed. All PvPers have means of income that normally encompass what is known as "carebearing activities". The people who does nothing but mine or missions and want nothing to do with the competitive side of Eve are not, nor ever where, needed. in that case dont forget to apply for developer in ccp and change the way the game is set in order to remove the mining/productive aspects of the game Considering most pvp groups have strong manufacturing alts there is no real need for 100% carebears ingame. Most of the mission runners I know only sell the meta 4 items, if that much. So they are not contributing much to the eve market. While the pvpers are raking every last isk outta their work, transporting every rat dropping they can to market, mining the high demand ores and ice, working portions of the t2 manufacturing chain, all so that they can optimize the amount of time spent gathering isk so they can do it less. but umm, simply if people want the bennies of corps, they should accept the risks, the corps hoppers are not doing so. I my self am not the empire war sort, but I feel the the risk/reward bit should be handled.
techzer0 IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.05.24 22:25:00 - [105] Originally by: Flaming sambuka LOL the really boring players again... there so boring. Hey, last corp I dec'd ran, logged, stabbed up, and finally corp hopped (1 hour before the war ended lol) So it is annoying. The corp in question was feeling a little big and decided to war dec another former target... he asked and I dec'd for a fee still think it's broken, since a year and a half ago CCP would flip ** on people that corp hopped solely for the purpose of avoiding war. ------------ Originally by:** CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster
Sionide THE FINAL STAND	Posted - 2008.05.24 22:53:00 - [106] Originally by: Ki An Originally by: Tsiros one thing that we shouldnt forget is the usefullness of all those so called carebear. they are the income/production makers. EVE is a game with a really good economy. They keep it running. if the game turns into a total pvp machine then all those that dont fancy pvp will ''fly'' away. so in the end no more easy kills, no more easy production, no more easy access to almost anything they do/produce. so in the end it will be the pvpiers with a very bad economy and lots of their alts in order to make the game run again. they made those chars as they like the economy/production aspects of the game. had ccp any interests into making this game a pvp game, those chars wouldnt have been in the options. so after 4 pages of posts, i think that they are needed and should be left to ''fight'' in which ever way they fancy. besides there are many wannabe pvp corps and lots of 0.0 areas to go for killing. This is a myth cultivated by true carebears. The harsh truth is: Carebears are not needed in Eve. PvPers are needed. All PvPers have means of income that normally encompass what is known as "carebearing activities". The people who does nothing but mine or missions and want nothing to do with the competitive side of Eve are not, nor ever where, needed. Actually, both are equally needed in Eve. The carebears give Eve the population that is needed (what was the latest stat...over 80% of Eve live in Empire?), as well as help stable the economy. Some will eventually go to pvp, while others will not...so they are actually the growth base for the PvP population. They also bring in named modules (from missions), minerals (missiones and mining), and materials (missions and production). PvPers are needed because they help drive the economy due to demand for these said ships and modules when they die. Furthermore, your argument is odd. You say "carebears are not needed in Eve" then state that almost all pvpers have a carebear alt. So in essence they are "needed." Does it really matter if a person's main is the carebear? If you mean they never contribute anything else to Eve, they do. They bring competitive pricing in the market, as well as they themselves help drive the market with their needs (ships, ammo, materials for building). === In Eve, never bring a knife to a knife fight.
Janus Cohen Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.25 00:39:00 - [107] Originally by: Arcani Victus I believe a viable solution would be to have the members who leave a corp during a war still be valid war targets (or flashing red) for 72 hours. Actually the solution would be getting rid of the alts. So if Nexa was offended, the offenders would be accountable for their actions. Alts and their alt corps are causing the problem, so.....just get rid of the alts. Because when it is all said and done, it is about who has the most isk.
YouEatedMyCookie State War Academy	Posted - 2008.05.25 00:49:00 - [108] Edited by: YouEatedMyCookie on 25/05/2008 00:51:48 Everyone should just throw themselves at your guns! HAHAHAHA LOLOLOLOL CRYING PIRATE! Seriously, though, hit them with the old suicide attack method and eventually they'll start doing something besides cry just as hard as you do, when they corp jump to escape you. We'll see their threads pop up saying "BAN SUICIDE GANK! I'M GOING TO REPORT THIS TO THE U.S. MILITARY THAT THEY ARE CAUSING ME TROUBLEZ!!11one" Edit: clarity
Nexa Necis The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.05.25 04:29:00 - [109] Originally by: Flaming sambuka LOL the really boring players again... there so boring. At least we can spell and have decent grammar.
Ki An Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.05.25 07:37:00 - [110] Originally by: Sionide Actually, both are equally needed in Eve. The carebears give Eve the population that is needed (what was the latest stat...over 80% of Eve live in Empire?), as well as help stable the economy. Some will eventually go to pvp, while others will not...so they are actually the growth base for the PvP population. They also bring in named modules (from missions), minerals (missiones and mining), and materials (missions and production). Yes, the carebears fill up the population. But that is all they give to Eve. We are better off without such a high population anyway. Originally by: Sionide Furthermore, your argument is odd. You say "carebears are not needed in Eve" then state that almost all pvpers have a carebear alt. So in essence they are "needed." Does it really matter if a person's main is the carebear? If you mean they never contribute anything else to Eve, they do. No, they don't contribute anything but targets, and they are not needed. I don't equate a PvPers carebear alt to a carebear. Carebearism is a mindset, one that PvP alts obviously don't have. I don't claim all industrial type players are carebears. The carebears are the risk averse people who will do anything to avoid PvP. They are not needed, nor ever where. Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
mirror image	Posted - 2008.05.25 10:24:00 - [111] Ki an You have no concept of what this game is really about. CCP is in this for the money. Its a business, not just a game we play. The business is for CCP to make money, without that there would be no EVE Online and you and I would be stuck playing some other game. Having said that, It would make sense that CCP would want as many subscriptions as the server could handle. That means carebears and PVP players. If you were to open empire up to a free for all like 0.0 no new players would stay because no one wishes to pay for a game they cannot play for any amount of time before being podded to Kingdom Come. This issue of corp jumping, has a fix and I think Nexa has found it. I certainly dont like her style of play but that is her right. CCP should do what will make CCP the most money and if that means allowing corp hopping then so be it. Nexa wants to play the game the way she plays it and gets help from other corps who enjoy the same, more power to them. But all should remember this without the new players that have set up these new corps, CCP doesnt make money and eventually you will have the entire eve universe so unpopulated that it mirrors lowsec then no more eve.
Ki An Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.05.25 10:33:00 - [112] Originally by: mirror image Ki an You have no concept of what this game is really about. CCP is in this for the money. Its a business, not just a game we play. The business is for CCP to make money, without that there would be no EVE Online and you and I would be stuck playing some other game. Having said that, It would make sense that CCP would want as many subscriptions as the server could handle. That means carebears and PVP players. If you were to open empire up to a free for all like 0.0 no new players would stay because no one wishes to pay for a game they cannot play for any amount of time before being podded to Kingdom Come. This issue of corp jumping, has a fix and I think Nexa has found it. I certainly dont like her style of play but that is her right. CCP should do what will make CCP the most money and if that means allowing corp hopping then so be it. Nexa wants to play the game the way she plays it and gets help from other corps who enjoy the same, more power to them. But all should remember this without the new players that have set up these new corps, CCP doesnt make money and eventually you will have the entire eve universe so unpopulated that it mirrors lowsec then no more eve. Knowing CCP, there is more to it than money for them. At least there used to be. However, nothing you say in your post refutes my claim that carebears aren't needed except to provide subscription money. Other types of players are needed to keep the game functioning, but carebears are just space fillers. Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
Exlegion New Light Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.25 12:06:00 - [113] Edited by: Exlegion on 25/05/2008 12:06:56 Originally by: Ki An Knowing CCP, there is more to it than money for them. At least there used to be. However, nothing you say in your post refutes my claim that carebears aren't needed except to provide subscription money. Other types of players are needed to keep the game functioning, but carebears are just space fillers. Ki An, Not only are your posts incorrect, but they seem to be filled with lots of anger and hate. For starters, Eve wasn't built on your (and your comrades') monthly fees alone. To say you don't need the rest of the playerbase is just very ignorant. You seem to think that mining, missioning, and pretty much anything else that doesn't involve your own play style are sub and inferior to your own style. When the reality is without the true carebears you'd spend more time doing the carebearing stuff than actually pew pewing. Think about it. If every hardcore PVP'er like yourself depended 100% on your own time to PVE, do you think there'd be minerals, ships, modules in the market in the quantities they existed today? Every PVP'er would build their own stuff for their own needs, meaning more time mining, missioning for isk, salvaging, etc. Your anger and hate is deep, my friend. And you seem to take this game way too seriously for your own health. One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Gang Starr
joan arcangel	Posted - 2008.05.25 12:39:00 - [114] Edited by: joan arcangel on 25/05/2008 12:40:32 Edited by: joan arcangel on 25/05/2008 12:39:42 Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Dexion Slayer (2) That they can join another corp, but that the wardec is automatically extended to that corp as well (I favour this one). Of course, there should most certainly be a pop-up warning along the lines of "this player is currently under war sanctions by the terms of the Yulai Convention. If you accept him in to your corp then your corp will immediately be in a state of war with WhateverCorp" to prevent the obvious abuse. I like this one as it means if i hire a merc corp all i have to do is get a alt into the merc corp and they have a free war dec on them :)
Ki An Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.05.25 12:55:00 - [115] I'd like to start off with this: Bacon. Originally by: Exlegion Ki An, Not only are your posts incorrect, but they seem to be filled with lots of elitism, anger and hate. Elitism is right, in that I do see my own playstyle as more valid than a rabid carebear. I've demonstrated clearly why I think so. Anger, not so much. More a mild irritation that carebears that are so risk averse that they'd rather cheat than lose some pixels are playing a pvp game. Hate, not at all. I don't hate you. I would probably even have sex with you if I met you and you where a hot chick. Originally by: Exlegion For starters, Eve wasn't built on your (and your comrades') monthly fees alone. From the beginning, yes it was. Carebearism lived a fledgling life in the beginning, but more and more migrated from WoW. Now they are in the majority, or so it would seem anyway. Originally by: Exlegion To say you don't need the rest of the playerbase is just very ignorant. I didn't say that. I said Eve doesn't need Carebears to function. Eve needs players, and I'd be willing to admit that carebears are players, but that does not equate to Eve needing carebears. Originally by: Exlegion You seem to think that mining, missioning, and pretty much anything else that doesn't involve your own play style are sub and inferior to your own style. No. I do all of those myself. Being risk adverse and whining about 'griefers' every time you get popped is inferior to my playstyle though. Originally by: Exlegion When the reality is without the true carebears you'd spend more time doing the carebearing stuff than actually pew pewing. Not really, no. As I operate my own industrial alt, I build most of my own ships, and import cheap T2 modules from friends. I'd hazard a guess and say that most dedicated PvPers do this. Originally by: Exlegion Think about it. If every hardcore PVP'er like yourself depended 100% on your own time to PVE, do you think there'd be minerals, ships, modules in the market in the quantities they existed today? Every PVP'er would build their own stuff for their own needs, meaning more time mining, missioning for isk, salvaging, etc. That's how it is for me now, and I'd say it works perfectly. If there where less stuff on the market, perhaps I could actually sell some of the junk I keep finding too. I'd say it would be a big win-win for me. People to fight who aren't afraid of doing so, and actually being able to live off of the loot I get. Originally by: Exlegion Your anger and hate is deep, my friend. And you seem to take this game way too seriously for your own health. I have lots of anger and hate, but none when it comes to this game. Flaming midless carebears is just my way of a "*** ol' time". Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
mirror image	Posted - 2008.05.25 13:23:00 - [116] Ki An Knowing CCP, there is more to it than money for them. At least there used to be. However, nothing you say in your post refutes my claim that carebears aren't needed except to provide subscription money. Other types of players are needed to keep the game functioning, but carebears are just space fillers. My guess is that you dont know CCP and have no idea why any company in the real world are in business. In the real world its all about the money, anyone tells you different and they are lying. I think you should stop derailing this thread and get a clue in real life and in this game. Sorry if the truth hurts.
Ki An Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.05.25 13:38:00 - [117] Originally by: mirror image My guess is that you dont know CCP and have no idea why any company in the real world are in business. In the real world its all about the money, anyone tells you different and they are lying. I think you should stop derailing this thread and get a clue in real life and in this game. Sorry if the truth hurts. No U Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting

CCP Mitnal C C P	Posted - 2008.05.25 21:09:00 - [118] Contrary to popular belief, CCP are aware of the issue and are considering a response as we speak. Please be patient in awaiting whatever verdict the GMs will issue on the subject. To assist us, as stated in the topic title, banding together to come up with a solution to the issue would be greatly appreciated. Remaining on topic and respectful of other users is mandatory. Mitnal Community Representative CCP Games, EVE Online Email / Netfang Get your voice heard! Vote in the CSM election!

Ki An Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.05.25 21:33:00 - [119] Originally by: CCP Mitnal Contrary to popular belief, CCP are aware of the issue and are considering a response as we speak. Please be patient in awaiting whatever verdict the GMs will issue on the subject. To assist us, as stated in the topic title, banding together to come up with a solution to the issue would be greatly appreciated. Remaining on topic and respectful of other users is mandatory. Best news I've heard in a while. Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
Lithalnas Headcrabs	Posted - 2008.05.25 22:36:00 - [120] Originally by: CCP Mitnal Contrary to popular belief, CCP are aware of the issue and are considering a response as we speak. Please be patient in awaiting whatever verdict the GMs will issue on the subject. To assist us, as stated in the topic title, banding together to come up with a solution to the issue would be greatly appreciated. Remaining on topic and respectful of other users is mandatory. you are so awesome its pink. ------------- fixed for greater eve content

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