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Sollana
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
230
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Posted - 2012.03.06 21:59:00 -
[661] - Quote
I like the idea, but lets take myself for example.
I have 3/4races up to cruiser 5, battlecruiser 5, so i can use commandships.
but if the ship tree/lines etc had existed before then this would not of happened.
perhaps a full skill point reimbursement. this is what most other MMo's would grant.
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stoicfaux
767
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:00:00 -
[662] - Quote
Derth Ramir wrote:Can someone please shut up all the mindless humans that are posting about how they are going to be forced to retrain for the new skills. If you guys took a few minutes to read you would find out CCP stated they would reimburse properly. Yes, but... it opens up some interesting side effects. "New destroyer and battlecruiser skills would be same rank than existing ones"
BC is a rank 6 skill. The new system would suddenly give you 4 rank 6 skills. Which means that everyone should be training the generic destroyer and battlecruiser ship skills right now to take advantage of this One Time Quadruple Training Speed Special Offer!*
* User is solely responsible for any increase in clone replacement/upgrade costs.
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1097
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:00:00 -
[663] - Quote
Quote:well after 10 mitutes of initial rage im ready to post some comments racial battlecruiser skills make sense, but i dont want to train all 4 to 5 on all my chars AGAIN [:evil:
Before going any further, respectfully, take another 10 minutes and read the opening post in this thread. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Syri Taneka
Dopehead Industries Broken Chains Alliance
7
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:00:00 -
[664] - Quote
'Nother Bittervet checking in.
Like other BVs who have posted so far, I have a significant chunk of SP (nearly 90 mil) on two characters created at near the same time. One (this one) is a combat specialist, able to fly all sub-BS t2 ships (except industrials) across all 4 races, and has the distinction of qualifying for the Elite Fleet Co-ordinator certificate (go look it up, it's a *****). My other char is a cap pilot, but, being pure Gallente, would not be effected much by this change as she already has BC 5 and Dest 5.
So my issue mostly revolves around this character. As I noted, I have extensive training in Command Ships and what makes them special. I also own and fly an Eris and a Flycatcher, as well as a Damnation, Claymore, and Vulture. I do not want to lose access to those ships, even temporarily, because of some new racial training schema for "off-path" ships.
Now, I understand breaking the tiers and the fact that the genericism of Destroyers and BCs makes the skills a little broken compared to the others. But at the same time, it really doesn't. You still need racial Frigate or Cruiser to fly them. You could just bump the level requirement to 4 instead of 3 to make them a little tougher to get into, much like the next level up on the t1 transition. Destroyers and BCs are kinda specialized to begin with, even at t1, so them being off the beaten path makes sense anyway. I treated them as half-way stepping stones, something a bit more powerful to fly while I trained up support skills to make the next level of basic ships viable to fly. So if you guys go ahead and make the Destroyer and Battlecruiser skills race specific, I damned well better get level 5 in all 8 of them.
Other things: I do not agree with severing the progression of AF -> HAC -> Field Command Ship. Each one really is just a beefier, less mobile version of the one before. Also Covop -> Black Ops, EAS -> Recon, and Interdictor -> HIC (interceptor should not be a pre-req to Dictor, though). Fleet CS has its own "usefullness" pre-reqs in the Leadership skill tree; Logistics should have nothing to do with them (in part because they do not do logistics directly, in part because only two of them BUFF logistics ships), but, say, Siege Warfare Specialist 4 for the Vulture (and equivalents for the others) would make sense. I don't like the idea of people being able to skip lesser t2 ships on the way to greater t2 ships. Feels like watering down the specialization. And like I'll have trained potentially unnecessary skills (I almost never actually fly an AF - I could easily do without them). Similarly, as you need to train increasingly larger base hulls to move up in size of ships, you should need to know how to fly a smaller sibling to a bigger vessel before flying that bigger vessel. |
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
232
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:01:00 -
[665] - Quote
The biggest complaints people have is they fear having to train longer for roughly the same ships in the game. Meaning, to be proficient at the drake and the hurricane takes more time, significantly more time if you aim for BC V. I think many people are complaining because they don't want to "have to" put in the extra training, some people are complaining to get free sp, but very few people are actually focused on what issues this causes. The BC class of ships are one of the primary "cross-training" drivers. BC's are cheap and potent, and it is relatively easy to cross-train between races to quickly fly effectively. With these changes, cross training becomes significantly more time consuming, especially when trying to fly BC+ type ships with lvl V skills. This hurts new players that attempt to train into the standard fleet types, as their time-to-effectiveness is increased.
-- Realistically, HTFU people... The BC class of ships are extremely potent and brutal ships, and do you really think you deserve to so easily unlock the full potential of these ships with so little training? BC's easily go toe-to-toe with t2 cruisers, for much less skilltraining and cost. Moving the BC's to racial BC's is a very much needed step. Then their sp investment falls much more inline with their firepower and abilities.
-- CS pilots, like myself: It will be a PITA to train 4x Racial BC V to board our command ships again. At the same point in time, granting us all 4x Racial BC V off the bat is pretty over-the-top. We are vets, so a boon from CCP is nice, but realistically, we don't deserve getting 6m sp for the 1.5m we invested in BC V (maybe 3m ). The simple solution is to refund back the BC sps, and lower the CS prereq from BC V to BC IV. We could distribute our sp's to then fly all the command ships again, or we can invest them in a particular race to fly one CS very effectively.
-- The future: If there is a racial BC and Dessie skill, it really opens the door for additional BC and Dessie ships. So while you might feel like this is limiting the ships you can fly now, the writing on the wall suggests you will gain more ships to fly in the future. Even moreso, this blog is about changing current useless ships into potential useful combat ships. Suddenly ships like the Atron or Executioner can gain slots and fitting to become a viable combat ship.
IMO, this Dev Blog is nothing but win.... and people whining and bitching about how its unfair they can no longer fly a Hurricane, Drake, and Talos perfectly using the same moderately low-cost skill need to HTFU...
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Caerephon
Origin.
0
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:02:00 -
[666] - Quote
This is going to make Destroyers look like a terrible skill option, since it'll take you a while to get a single ship, whereas skilling up Cruiser will get you 3 or 4. Maybe you should implement more destroyers with this system... *winkwinknudgenudgeohgodpleasei'mtiredofthethrasherhull* |
Endeavour Starfleet
685
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:03:00 -
[667] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Looks like the drake nerf will happen after all. Quote:Bombardment ships: provide heavy fire support to pin the enemy down with constant barrage of ordnance. Have great damage and range, average defense and mobility. Can be compared to artillery. EVE examples: Raven, Drake, caracal. Quote:Combat ships: designed for direct fights, such vessels are usually found spear heading an attack force, or sniping from long range. Have great damage and defense, but poor mobility. A good representation would be 18th century "ships of the line". EVE examples: Abaddon, Rokh, Hyperion, Maelstrom, Ferox, Maller. The fact that the Drake had the best defense and average DPS was the entire point. Now they will just be alpha bait. And never used considering that FCs are going to be preferring insta long range anyway. With the increased DPS inside Lvl4s these days noobs will yet again lose access to stuff that will keep them in the game. Perhaps you should consider that "noobs" really shouldn't have a dirt cheap, quickly trained for ship that can allow them to waltz through Level 4 missions with impunity.
What do you mean Waltz? Even with proper fit many of the "new" Lvl 4 missions will eat you alive in a drake without Domi logi. And even then you are fit for so much tank that the isk per hr is pathetic. |
Korvin
Shadow Kingdom Best Alliance
327
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:03:00 -
[668] - Quote
DEAR CCP. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS PIC?
http://korvin.isgreat.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=54&Itemid=28 __________________________________ Member of CSM 4&5, your CSM 7 candidate. |
Rhaile Vhindiscar
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:04:00 -
[669] - Quote
Kill it with FIRE.
You're going to stick all those people in null with ships they can't fly until they retrain? Think about the poor fools in Wspace. You can either A) Drop your points and regain caine at lvl 5 or B) drop your points and be able to fly the only ship you have in system, a drake. Are you insane?! Good lord, did you run this pas the CSM?
Balance the ships, but can who ever came up with the subdivision of bc and cruiser skills. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
43
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:08:00 -
[670] - Quote
stoicfaux wrote:Derth Ramir wrote:Can someone please shut up all the mindless humans that are posting about how they are going to be forced to retrain for the new skills. If you guys took a few minutes to read you would find out CCP stated they would reimburse properly. Yes, but... it opens up some interesting side effects. "New destroyer and battlecruiser skills would be same rank than existing ones" BC is a rank 6 skill. The new system would suddenly give you 4 rank 6 skills. Which means that everyone should be training the generic destroyer and battlecruiser ship skills right now to take advantage of this One Time Quadruple Training Speed Special Offer!* * User is solely responsible for any increase in clone replacement/upgrade costs. Best way to limit abuse would be for CCP to add the skills directly and not just give free SP, which means that while the arbitrary SP number goes up you didn't really gain anything from the change. Training as is allows it so it's not terribly exploitish.
Would stay longer but I have to go make some changes to the skill queue for a sec. |
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1097
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:08:00 -
[671] - Quote
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Looks like the drake nerf will happen after all. Quote:Bombardment ships: provide heavy fire support to pin the enemy down with constant barrage of ordnance. Have great damage and range, average defense and mobility. Can be compared to artillery. EVE examples: Raven, Drake, caracal. Quote:Combat ships: designed for direct fights, such vessels are usually found spear heading an attack force, or sniping from long range. Have great damage and defense, but poor mobility. A good representation would be 18th century "ships of the line". EVE examples: Abaddon, Rokh, Hyperion, Maelstrom, Ferox, Maller. The fact that the Drake had the best defense and average DPS was the entire point. Now they will just be alpha bait. And never used considering that FCs are going to be preferring insta long range anyway. With the increased DPS inside Lvl4s these days noobs will yet again lose access to stuff that will keep them in the game. Perhaps you should consider that "noobs" really shouldn't have a dirt cheap, quickly trained for ship that can allow them to waltz through Level 4 missions with impunity. What do you mean Waltz? Even with proper fit many of the "new" Lvl 4 missions will eat you alive in a drake without Domi logi. And even then you are fit for so much tank that the isk per hr is pathetic.
"Noobs" shouldn't be able to do level 4's at all.
If you have the skills to do level 4's, you are no longer a noob.
Level 4 missions should require something a bit more advanced to do solo than a simple Drake.
If you can't currently do most level 4's in a Drake with relative ease, you are doing it wrong. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Stanis Myunga
Lonetrek Trade and Industries Elite Space Guild
3
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:09:00 -
[672] - Quote
I'm concerned with the fact that this would screw those of us who've progressed directly from frigate to cruiser training. Up until 3-4 months ago I didn't have destroyers trained and I was already flying in battleship-class vessels.
These changes would mean an extremely huge nerf to nullsec PVP and severely disrupt fleet ops as major retraining would be needed, especially for toons under 2 years of age.
Cross-training at present point in time is relatively easy and not so much time consuming. However, with the changes, you're going to rickroll players' abilities to cross-train for other vessels.
In my instance, I can, at this moment in time... fly a Machariel, Vindi and Bhaalgorn. With the changes to the skill trees, I will be locked out most if not all pirate faction vessels that I can currently fly and do own. So will other members from my corp. Which is not making anyone happy.
Then there's those of us with negligible SP in destroyers and battlecruisers. Are we going to be reimbursed with full SP to match our current ship skills to keep continuity or will we be forced change gears and spend even MORE time training destroyers IV and then BC IV to fly battleships AGAIN?
Slight edit:
Corpmate alerted me to this. So yes I would be able to fly my ships but what about the SP?
Quote:Due to the way nested requirements work, it would also mean pilots would not need to re-train anything to fly Battleships or Cruisers |
Aphoxema G
Teraa Matar
247
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:09:00 -
[673] - Quote
Manssell wrote:Aphoxema G wrote:We've never had "Minmatar Assault Ships" or "Amarr Covert Ops", so what isn't arbitrary about these changes?
#***#! **&&$$$! ***$#@@! Shhhhhh Don't remind them.
Damnit, what have I done?!
I guess the only thing left to do is tie myself to a board and wait for the community to mercilessly flay me alive. Warp drive failure indicator: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=887805#post887805 |
Valentyn3
Deep Core Mining Inc.
88
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:10:00 -
[674] - Quote
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Looks like the drake nerf will happen after all. Quote:Bombardment ships: provide heavy fire support to pin the enemy down with constant barrage of ordnance. Have great damage and range, average defense and mobility. Can be compared to artillery. EVE examples: Raven, Drake, caracal. Quote:Combat ships: designed for direct fights, such vessels are usually found spear heading an attack force, or sniping from long range. Have great damage and defense, but poor mobility. A good representation would be 18th century "ships of the line". EVE examples: Abaddon, Rokh, Hyperion, Maelstrom, Ferox, Maller. The fact that the Drake had the best defense and average DPS was the entire point. Now they will just be alpha bait. And never used considering that FCs are going to be preferring insta long range anyway. With the increased DPS inside Lvl4s these days noobs will yet again lose access to stuff that will keep them in the game.
Lol Ya, I saw them compare the drake to the other 2 missile boats that never see any love in pvp and facepalmed.
They should just put an asterisk next to the entire missile skill tree that reads "Not intended for PvP use" EVE why u no obey Newtonian Physics? Sure wish I could fit med artillery on my frigate to. http://i.imgur.com/PUZou.jpg
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1097
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:11:00 -
[675] - Quote
Rhaile Vhindiscar wrote:Kill it with FIRE.
You're going to stick all those people in null with ships they can't fly until they retrain? Think about the poor fools in Wspace. You can either A) Drop your points and regain caine at lvl 5 or B) drop your points and be able to fly the only ship you have in system, a drake. Are you insane?! Good lord, did you run this pas the CSM?
Balance the ships, but can who ever came up with the subdivision of bc and cruiser skills.
Read the first post in the thread, then comment. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
43
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:11:00 -
[676] - Quote
Rhaile Vhindiscar wrote:Kill it with FIRE.
You're going to stick all those people in null with ships they can't fly until they retrain? Think about the poor fools in Wspace. You can either A) Drop your points and regain caine at lvl 5 or B) drop your points and be able to fly the only ship you have in system, a drake. Are you insane?! Good lord, did you run this pas the CSM?
Balance the ships, but can who ever came up with the subdivision of bc and cruiser skills. Given the ease of finding Blue posts in this forum, the frequency these knee jerk posts makes me sad. |
Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
960
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:12:00 -
[677] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:Quote:We do not need underprepared pilots in carriers. What on earth would make you say a thing like that?
QFT!
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://vimeo.com/user9887127 Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1097
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:12:00 -
[678] - Quote
Stanis Myunga wrote:I'm concerned with the fact that this would screw those of us who've progressed directly from frigate to cruiser training. Up until 3-4 months ago I didn't have destroyers trained and I was already flying in battleship-class vessels.
These changes would mean an extremely huge nerf to nullsec PVP and severely disrupt fleet ops as major retraining would be needed, especially for toons under 2 years of age.
Cross-training at present point in time is relatively easy and not so much time consuming. However, with the changes, you're going to rickroll players' abilities to cross-train for other vessels.
In my instance, I can, at this moment in time... fly a Machariel, Vindi and Bhaalgorn. With the changes to the skill trees, I will be locked out most if not all pirate faction vessels that I can currently fly and do own. So will other members from my corp. Which is not making anyone happy.
Then there's those of us with negligible SP in destroyers and battlecruisers. Are we going to be reimbursed with full SP to match our current ship skills to keep continuity or will we be forced change gears and spend even MORE time training destroyers IV and then BC IV to fly battleships AGAIN?
If you can fly it today, you can fly it tomorrow.
Seriously guys, come on. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Callic Veratar
Power of the Phoenix
163
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:12:00 -
[679] - Quote
I like this idea a lot. Glad it's coming in. I'm going to have to pop Destroyer V and Amarr/Gallente Cruiser V before this hits. |
Sovai Elaaren
Korriban Confederation
18
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:13:00 -
[680] - Quote
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:The biggest complaints people have is they fear having to train longer for roughly the same ships in the game. Meaning, to be proficient at the drake and the hurricane takes more time, significantly more time if you aim for BC V. I think many people are complaining because they don't want to "have to" put in the extra training, some people are complaining to get free sp, but very few people are actually focused on what issues this causes. The BC class of ships are one of the primary "cross-training" drivers. BC's are cheap and potent, and it is relatively easy to cross-train between races to quickly fly effectively. With these changes, cross training becomes significantly more time consuming, especially when trying to fly BC+ type ships with lvl V skills. This hurts new players that attempt to train into the standard fleet types, as their time-to-effectiveness is increased. -- Realistically, HTFU people... The BC class of ships are extremely potent and brutal ships, and do you really think you deserve to so easily unlock the full potential of these ships with so little training? BC's easily go toe-to-toe with t2 cruisers, for much less skilltraining and cost. Moving the BC's to racial BC's is a very much needed step. Then their sp investment falls much more inline with their firepower and abilities. -- CS pilots, like myself: It will be a PITA to train 4x Racial BC V to board our command ships again. At the same point in time, granting us all 4x Racial BC V off the bat is pretty over-the-top. We are vets, so a boon from CCP is nice, but realistically, we don't deserve getting 6m sp for the 1.5m we invested in BC V (maybe 3m ). The simple solution is to refund back the BC sps, and lower the CS prereq from BC V to BC IV. We could distribute our sp's to then fly all the command ships again, or we can invest them in a particular race to fly one CS very effectively. -- The future: If there is a racial BC and Dessie skill, it really opens the door for additional BC and Dessie ships. So while you might feel like this is limiting the ships you can fly now, the writing on the wall suggests you will gain more ships to fly in the future. Even moreso, this blog is about changing current useless ships into potential useful combat ships. Suddenly ships like the Atron or Executioner can gain slots and fitting to become a viable combat ship. IMO, this Dev Blog is nothing but win.... and people whining and bitching about how its unfair they can no longer fly a Hurricane, Drake, and Talos perfectly using the same moderately low-cost skill need to HTFU...
Quoting for truth. |
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M'nu
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
4
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:13:00 -
[681] - Quote
Steelrat diGriz wrote:THIS IS A STUIPED IDEA
that means i have to train battlecruisers another 2 time just so i'm in teh sam eplace i i am unless u get 1.5mil free sp for every race cruiser 5 u have if you as well as cs skills
y u mad? |
FT Diomedes
Factio Paucorum
4
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:14:00 -
[682] - Quote
I like the proposed changes and I think that CCP will find a good way to implement them. I am not very keen on it becoming easier to train caps. BS V should continue in place for caps. |
Stanis Myunga
Lonetrek Trade and Industries Elite Space Guild
3
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:14:00 -
[683] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:Stanis Myunga wrote:I'm concerned with the fact that this would screw those of us who've progressed directly from frigate to cruiser training. Up until 3-4 months ago I didn't have destroyers trained and I was already flying in battleship-class vessels.
These changes would mean an extremely huge nerf to nullsec PVP and severely disrupt fleet ops as major retraining would be needed, especially for toons under 2 years of age.
Cross-training at present point in time is relatively easy and not so much time consuming. However, with the changes, you're going to rickroll players' abilities to cross-train for other vessels.
In my instance, I can, at this moment in time... fly a Machariel, Vindi and Bhaalgorn. With the changes to the skill trees, I will be locked out most if not all pirate faction vessels that I can currently fly and do own. So will other members from my corp. Which is not making anyone happy.
Then there's those of us with negligible SP in destroyers and battlecruisers. Are we going to be reimbursed with full SP to match our current ship skills to keep continuity or will we be forced change gears and spend even MORE time training destroyers IV and then BC IV to fly battleships AGAIN? If you can fly it today, you can fly it tomorrow.Seriously guys, come on.
I just re-edited my post =D
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neur0zen
AtlantiA French Corp Yulai Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:14:00 -
[684] - Quote
Quote:This is inherently new player UNFRIENDLY, as well as being excessively annoying for veteran players.
DONT YOU HAVE OTHER PRIORITY FOR THIS GAME THAN SPLIT SKILLS ?
Ah yes you do, priority to shithead patch with nonsense change and give a middle finger to players. No one was asking for that kind of ****, no one care about multirace skills (until now).
Once again epic fail CCP
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Hannott Thanos
Notorious Legion
3
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:15:00 -
[685] - Quote
"ammagaaawd CCP, why u dumbing down mah eve??? u is making it for neewbs"
"baaawww, now I has to train moar skills :(((((("
Make up your minds already. Is it dumbing down or making it more hardcore?
I'm all for this btw. Love the devblog :D |
Syri Taneka
Dopehead Industries Broken Chains Alliance
7
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:15:00 -
[686] - Quote
Grey Stormshadow wrote:Skill points from trained skills which are removed should be reimposed and value of those skill books returned as isk. Players can then choose how to redistribute their points how they like. They don't even need to put them back to ship skills if they don't want.
It is likely that some won't be able to fly all racial variants after this before some additional training, but in the end this will be same for everyone.
Put it this way. As of right now I can fly the Damnation, Absolution, Astarte, Eos, Vulture, Nighthawk, Claymore, and Sleipnir. I own 3 of those across 3 races. If, after this proposed change, I can no longer fly some of them without spending another 23d 17h 34m 53s (BC 5 based on my current attributes) PER RACE, then I will quit. No questions, end of story, done. And I won't be alone. |
FeralShadow
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
69
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:15:00 -
[687] - Quote
I HATE CHANGE EVEN IF IT IS GOING TO MAKE THIS GAME WAY BETTER IN THE LONG RUN OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooo
/sarcasm |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
278
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:16:00 -
[688] - Quote
Stanis Myunga wrote:I'm concerned with the fact that this would screw those of us who've progressed directly from frigate to cruiser training. Up until 3-4 months ago I didn't have destroyers trained and I was already flying in battleship-class vessels.
These changes would mean an extremely huge nerf to nullsec PVP and severely disrupt fleet ops as major retraining would be needed, especially for toons under 2 years of age.
Cross-training at present point in time is relatively easy and not so much time consuming. However, with the changes, you're going to rickroll players' abilities to cross-train for other vessels.
In my instance, I can, at this moment in time... fly a Machariel, Vindi and Bhaalgorn. With the changes to the skill trees, I will be locked out most if not all pirate faction vessels that I can currently fly and do own. So will other members from my corp. Which is not making anyone happy.
Then there's those of us with negligible SP in destroyers and battlecruisers. Are we going to be reimbursed with full SP to match our current ship skills to keep continuity or will we be forced change gears and spend even MORE time training destroyers IV and then BC IV to fly battleships AGAIN?
Cruisers don't need the frigate skill to pilot. Just to inject the skill in the first place. replacing the frigate skill with the destroyer skill will make no difference here. Read the first post. FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator and other 'useful' utilities. |
Shang Fei
The Illuminatii Mildly Intoxicated
17
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:16:00 -
[689] - Quote
Nothing to realy add except I kinda like this change. Will have to be very carefully implemented after extensive testing. Yet I see this change as a positive one. |
Marlona Sky
EntroPrelatial Vanguard EntroPraetorian Aegis
549
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:16:00 -
[690] - Quote
I honestly had no clue there was this many players who do not know how to read. Sad really.
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