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Scagga Laebetrovo
Delictum 23216
San Matari.
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Posted - 2008.05.24 11:04:00 -
[31]
Why'd the op join an organisation that takes part in megablob warfare then?
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slothe
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Posted - 2008.05.24 11:06:00 -
[32]
3 things that ruine pvp in eve atm
1. cloaks
2. nanos (just need a slight nerf)
3. blobs.
eve is much less fun than it used to be.
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mummmy
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2008.05.24 11:06:00 -
[33]
 Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo
Why'd the op join an organisation that takes part in megablob warfare then?
So he could make this post....
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SK Rooster
No Trademark
Notoriety Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.24 11:06:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Syath
Pvp has become completely unfun, why?
This is why:
stop doing this
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc.
eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.05.24 11:09:00 -
[35]
Originally by: slothe
3 things that ruine pvp in eve atm
1. cloaks
2. nanos (just need a slight nerf)
3. blobs.
eve is much less fun than it used to be.
boo-oohh
- Gob
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slothe
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Posted - 2008.05.24 11:11:00 -
[36]
Edited by: slothe on 24/05/2008 11:11:24
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Originally by: slothe
3 things that ruine pvp in eve atm
1. cloaks
2. nanos (just need a slight nerf)
3. blobs.
eve is much less fun than it used to be.
boo-oohh
- Gob
im not crying about it, just stating fact.
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RogueWing
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.24 11:13:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Syath
to be honest with the cyno jammers in system nobody really ever defeats the defenders
Have you talked to MC about this opinion?
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc.
eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.05.24 11:18:00 -
[38]
Originally by: slothe
Edited by: slothe on 24/05/2008 11:11:24
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Originally by: slothe
3 things that ruine pvp in eve atm
1. cloaks
2. nanos (just need a slight nerf)
3. blobs.
eve is much less fun than it used to be.
boo-oohh
- Gob
im not crying about it, just stating fact.
No you arent, because you could cloak, blob and nano since pretty much forever. The difference is back then the game was smaller and fresher for you, now that its tougher and older you post like every other bitter vet and (imo) its annoying.
- Gob
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slothe
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Posted - 2008.05.24 11:24:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
No you arent, because you could cloak, blob and nano since pretty much forever. The difference is back then the game was smaller and fresher for you, now that its tougher and older you post like every other bitter vet and (imo) its annoying.
- Gob
im perfectly entitled to add my opinion, whether annoying or not. im not bitter, just stating fact as i see it.
eve was more fun than it is now, fact, for everone not just me.
your not really adding anything construtive to this thread by just criticising me tbh.
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SK Rooster
No Trademark
Notoriety Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.24 11:27:00 -
[40]
Originally by: slothe
im perfectly entitled to add my opinion, whether annoying or not. im not bitter, just stating fact as i see it.
eve was more fun than it is now, fact, for everone not just me.
your not really adding anything construtive to this thread by just criticising me tbh.
Really your only valid point of your 3 is nanos anyway though, hence my earlier post. the whines about cloaks... oh boo hoo you cant kill a ratting raven. the point about blobs... blobs have been in since day1 so get over it.
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Herm0dhr
Balder's Wrath
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Posted - 2008.05.24 11:37:00 -
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A great part of the lag comes from fighters and drones. Fix them!
Start by reducing the amount of max drones a boat can have, carrier = max 5 fighters (but tuffer, mor dps and HP / fighter)
Ordinary boats maximum 1 or two drones (better drones then today though, more dps, HP / drone)
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NAFnist
Dark Knights of Deneb
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.05.24 11:38:00 -
[42]
Originally by: slothe
Edited by: slothe on 24/05/2008 11:11:59
3 things that ruin pvp (for me at least) in eve atm
1. cloaks
2. nanos (just need a slight nerf)
3. blobs.
eve is much less fun than it used to be.
cloaks are the new wcs !
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SK Rooster
No Trademark
Notoriety Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.24 11:45:00 -
[43]
Originally by: NAFnist
cloaks are the new wcs !
if you are referring to cloaks fitted to non-pvp ships (i.e. ratting raven), so what? wouldnt you rather fight someone fitted for pvp than someone you caught ratting?
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Thmaist
Shinra
Shinra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.24 11:51:00 -
[44]
a) wrong forum
b) sod off
DesuSigs |
cybergurl
R.U.S.T.
Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.05.24 11:54:00 -
[45]
Originally by: slothe
Edited by: slothe on 24/05/2008 11:11:59
3 things that ruin pvp (for me at least) in eve atm
1. cloaks
2. nanos (just need a slight nerf)
3. blobs.
eve is much less fun than it used to be.
1 and 3 i will agree with, but there's nothing wrong with nano ship's now that we have the rapier / huginn
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slothe
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Posted - 2008.05.24 11:56:00 -
[46]
in eve the main rationale is risk v reward. also for every module / ship there should also be an effective counter.
i have no problems with ships designed to be used with cloaks i,e covert ops / recons / stealth bombers etc. i do have a problem with cloaks on ships they werent designed for.
there are NO counters to ratting npcers that use cloaks and there should be. do i want to shoot ratting npcers? sure i do.
one of the main reasons for the HUGE rise in isk farmers in 0.0 was the advent in cloaks. they sit there all day farming isk with no worries in the world. cloaking / logging off when anyone comes into the system.
i cant see why anyone thinks there isnt a problem with cloaks as they are tbh, but anyway w/e.
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SK Rooster
No Trademark
Notoriety Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.24 12:01:00 -
[47]
Edited by: SK Rooster on 24/05/2008 12:01:25
Originally by: cybergurl
1 and 3 i will agree with, but there's nothing wrong with nano ship's now that we have the rapier / huginn
this mentality is just ridiculous. nano is a tank. what if i said that in order to disable a shield or armor tank you needed a rapier / huginn, and without those ships you had almost no chance of breaking the tank. sounds silly huh
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Martin Mckenna
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.05.24 12:49:00 -
[48]
Originally by: MineralOel Steuer
WOW is that way ---->>>>>
adapt or die
get a main****
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc.
eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.05.24 12:49:00 -
[49]
Originally by: SK Rooster
Edited by: SK Rooster on 24/05/2008 12:01:25
Originally by: cybergurl
1 and 3 i will agree with, but there's nothing wrong with nano ship's now that we have the rapier / huginn
this mentality is just ridiculous. nano is a tank. what if i said that in order to disable a shield or armor tank you needed a rapier / huginn, and without those ships you had almost no chance of breaking the tank. sounds silly huh
nope not at all tbh
- Gob
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MineralOel Steuer
OP EC
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Posted - 2008.05.24 12:51:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Martin Mckenna
Originally by: MineralOel Steuer
WOW is that way ---->>>>>
adapt or die
get a main****
look at this emorage
still bitter papertiger |
Quaren
Spartan Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.24 12:52:00 -
[51]
There is 1 big problem with eve as I see it and that is the blobs.
Nanos are just a symptom since its the only way for smaller entities in eve to pvp without getting wtfpwned by blobs.
And please don't say that people want the extreamely large fleetfights so they should be made possible cause they aren't possible and ccp shouldn't build a game around things that aren't possible.
CCP really need to encourage alliances to become smaller and hold less space.
You know there is something wrong when RA can take and hold space that is in the exact opposite corner of the world from where the rest of their space is.
other things that ruin the game imo:
Cyno jammers
long stront timers
jump bridges
cloaks on npc ships (if you can't even put up a small POS in your npc system you shouldn't be able to be pretty much invincible while ratting in 0.0)
I mean EVE is supposed to be all about risk vs reward but nowadays its riskier to live in highsec then it is to live in 0.0.
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Wraith foc
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2008.05.24 12:54:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Syath
Eve online is broken, Pvp has become completely unfun, why? because mega blobs just lag out systems and completly ruin the game.
Please CCP hear this!! and do system caps I don't care how but this game needs it. It would be much cooler to have 50vs50 battles or 150 vs 150, with a limit cap but you can use whatever ships u want from dreads to interceptors.
There are plenty of PVP groups that operate around the blobs.. only territory holding alliances need to blob..
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SK Rooster
No Trademark
Notoriety Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.24 13:02:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Originally by: SK Rooster
what if i said that in order to disable a shield or armor tank you needed a rapier / huginn, and without those ships you had almost no chance of breaking the tank. sounds silly huh
nope not at all tbh
- Gob
i see so my megathron would be useless against a raven because i didnt have a rapier with me, makes sense 
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Jita TradeAlt
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Posted - 2008.05.24 13:13:00 -
[54]
Originally by: SK Rooster
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Originally by: SK Rooster
what if i said that in order to disable a shield or armor tank you needed a rapier / huginn, and without those ships you had almost no chance of breaking the tank. sounds silly huh
nope not at all tbh
- Gob
i see so my megathron would be useless against a raven because i didnt have a rapier with me, makes sense
Why don't you hug a station and cry about it ;_;
In any case, just because not everyone wants to park a blasterthron and sit on undocks, ready to deaggro and dock at the slightest provocation, doesn't mean people shouldn't be allowed to do other things like nanos.
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Walleye
Northern Lights Mineral Reserve
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Posted - 2008.05.24 13:45:00 -
[55]
It's simple really just cap corp and alliance membership numbers.
I went to 0.0 for a short time and it didn't take me long to figure out that lagfights were the stupidest thing I have ever seen in a game. I left and will never go back until they do something to fix it.I want very much to go back cuz I'm bored out of my mind in empire but to me it is better than lagfights.
To all the haters that are about to call me ***** wussy carebear take in mind that I don't care what YOU think. It doesn't bother me a bit. I will play the game the way I want to and not the way you want me to and to me lagfights are the most uninteresting thing offered in this game.
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc.
eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.05.24 13:49:00 -
[56]
Originally by: SK Rooster
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Originally by: SK Rooster
what if i said that in order to disable a shield or armor tank you needed a rapier / huginn, and without those ships you had almost no chance of breaking the tank. sounds silly huh
nope not at all tbh
- Gob
i see so my megathron would be useless against a raven because i didnt have a rapier with me, makes sense
I'm paper - rock's fine - nerf scissor?
- Gob
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SwindonBadger
0utbreak
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Posted - 2008.05.24 14:01:00 -
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Most of the recent changes dont encourage fun fights. They encourage large blobs, cloaking nanno ships and what not. The missing link is roaming gangs not in very fast cloaking ships, ie bs , bc.
If we keep moving forward rather then ReMoViNg chages I think something like black ops that can move bs dowanwards some small distance would be a beter way of breaking the mould for some of the older ships (could also give the attackers working on cyno chains a hand and make using lots of titans less effective).
Roaming BS gangs can now be cyno chain trapped very easliy and allaince have a much easier time trapping. There is no counter for this. U will already be deep into enemy territory your ship typses setups known, this, a massive disadvante to start with. I dont mind fighting heavy odds but that missing link of bs out in the mix is lost with smaller numbers.
A wondering party of bs could always be cought befor of course using skill, and even if they could cyno out it would not be far, just enough to keep those kind of gangs alive away from home. Smaller entites have to work on knowing enemy cyno chains, the defending allaince would have to use the same focus on finding the black ops pilots.
AS for spicing things up for poss warfair, I dont think I can give u much hope if u want 1000 + in local and no lagg.
Eat Them all, let the digestion sort em out |
Deva Blackfire
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.05.24 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: SwindonBadger
AS for spicing things up for poss warfair, I dont think I can give u much hope if u want 1000 + in local and no lagg.
Seeing as napfest allies were jumping in shuttles and noobships into "combat" i guess inducing lag was their point, not getting lag-free combat.
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Wicked Power
Solar Bears
SOLAR WING
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Posted - 2008.05.24 14:22:00 -
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Edited by: Wicked Power on 24/05/2008 14:24:37
Personaly, i don't believe that anything could be done without rewriting the code.... Why? Because I think "The Lag" would have been fixed long ago if that wasn't a case. So till a point when players start to leave Eve because of lag ( most of them see only Jita lag and they ussually don't loose ships/implants over it and /sarcasm on Hey!!! Soon we gonna walk in stations!!! Wow!!! /sarcasm off) nothing is going to change.
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Grytok
moon7empler
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2008.05.24 14:31:00 -
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Problem is the freakin' SOV-system, not the caps themselves.
Change POSs to industrial constructs for moon-harvesting and introduce a SOV-system thats point-defense to spread the battle over a few systems. Only constellations can be claimed by holding the majority of points for X hours until SOV changes... etc.
This way we won't see systems lagged to death, as both entities involved need to spread out their fleets over 5 or more systems. It will also eolve tactics into territorial warfare.
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