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Kaar Art of War Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2008.05.25 15:04:00 - [31] Posting in a faketract thread. --- ---
Wesley Baird Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2008.05.25 15:32:00 - [32] Now Hydra can respawn! \o/ MDK Recruitment Info
Earthan GREY COUNCIL Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.25 15:33:00 - [33] Nice post. Honestly i think it was a very good lesson for us. - Killing Eve bullies all over the galaxy hunting stories
SomeHardLovin Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.25 16:16:00 - [34] Edited by: SomeHardLovin on 25/05/2008 16:19:13 Edited by: SomeHardLovin on 25/05/2008 16:19:00 Edited by: SomeHardLovin on 25/05/2008 16:18:16 Originally by: slothe sounds like hydra hired them to attack themselves. Wouldn't that be ironic :) Good way to get the troops some target practice though. Good fights all around. I had brilliant plans for a fleet of stealth bombers.. a wedding took me away this week though Next time! --- * The opinions expressed are mine and do not necessarily represent those of my corporation or alliance.
Reuser Gunfleet Logistics Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.25 16:22:00 - [35] It's my fault.
SerialTurd Ardent Industrial Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.25 16:27:00 - [36] Was good fun. Don't recall ever seeing any smack on either sides. A big learning experience for Hydra as I think this was the first time we had a titan (let alone) 2 in our systems. Again, good fun. Looking foward to future engagments (minus the caps of course :) )
Angor BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.05.25 16:31:00 - [37] Originally by: Setana Manoro In the end, from the merc pov, who are you going to pay isk. A corp like BE that makes life miserable with few members, that makes the target lose incredible ammounts of ships, especially against a target that doesn't have a well developed logistics backbone, or are you going to pay the same ammount of isk to KIA to ... do this, and even make the target laugh when they doomsday their own ppl. k/d ratio's go up with titans c/d? Accepting titan donations! _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!!
FellRaven GREY COUNCIL Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.25 16:34:00 - [38] There has been some questios asked about the campaign re: Kill Death Ratios. I've done some quick sums based on the information on the Hydra Killboard (First Disclaimer) and have assumed that Kia/Daisho were on the same killmails (That may not hold true particularly for the Titan kills). Final assumption I've only counted real kills not Pods FYI KIA/Daisho killed around 300:30 so this does effect the figures. Hydra losses = 671 (Includes 20 Starbase Structures & 27 Shuttles) Kia losses = 112 Daisho Losses = 93 Kia/Daisho total = 205 Kia Titan kills = 83 Daisho Titan kills = 60 Now I'm sure these figures can be used to support whatever arguement you want. "there are lies, damned lies and statistics.." What is sure is that KIA/Daisho know how to use their Cap Fleet and particularly their Titans.
KIAEddZ KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.25 16:36:00 - [39] Edited by: KIAEddZ on 25/05/2008 16:40:48 Edited by: KIAEddZ on 25/05/2008 16:40:33 Originally by: FellRaven There has been some questios asked about the campaign re: Kill Death Ratios. I've done some quick sums based on the information on the Hydra Killboard (First Disclaimer) and have assumed that Kia/Daisho were on the same killmails (That may not hold true particularly for the Titan kills). Final assumption I've only counted real kills not Pods FYI KIA/Daisho killed around 300:30 so this does effect the figures. Hydra losses = 671 (Includes 20 Starbase Structures & 27 Shuttles) Kia losses = 112 Daisho Losses = 93 Kia/Daisho total = 205 Kia Titan kills = 83 Daisho Titan kills = 60 Now I'm sure these figures can be used to support whatever arguement you want. "there are lies, damned lies and statistics.." What is sure is that KIA/Daisho know how to use their Cap Fleet and particularly their Titans. These figures are very incorrect, a is the Hydra Kb. Please review them using access to the KIA and Daisho boards. The KIA kb is 100% accurate for KIA Losses, although we may well be missing a few kills here n there. I have no interest in debating wether we achieved "succesful" killboard stats, hence they are not quoted in my report, the contract goals weren't based upon them. That said, they are good stats by any measure, but when making posts like the one you have made, you really should stay clear of using killboards that are NOT using api calls to update their losses and feeds to maintain their kill lists. KIA EVE Home KIA in game Public Channel "KIA"
Wraith foc Destructive Influence	Posted - 2008.05.25 16:45:00 - [40] Originally by: KIAEddZ That said, they are good stats by any measure That said, the measure you are using is.. your opinion..
flakeys The Love Factory	Posted - 2008.05.25 17:05:00 - [41] Edited by: flakeys on 25/05/2008 17:06:11 If the OP is not lying there is only one conclusion from what he wrote. No caps , no sov gain , the contractor was from an unusual side but made sence if you think about it. It's a contract from Hydra itself IF the op is not lying or a VERRY close ally of HYDRA to test their fighting abilities.
Doyenne Hydra Holdings Inc. Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.25 17:11:00 - [42] o7 ______________________
TII Noob	Posted - 2008.05.25 17:27:00 - [43] you fail contract ended
Big Al The Aftermath	Posted - 2008.05.25 17:36:00 - [44] Edited by: Big Al on 25/05/2008 17:36:14 Originally by: KIAEddZ we need plenty of targets and a mark that is capable of fighting back. I don't know which is more unlikely, someone actually paying you or you maintaining better than 50% efficiency against 'a mark that is capable of fighting back' I'm sure those double ecm hyperions are tricky to deal with though. Well fought.
rValdez5987 Asylum Logistics	Posted - 2008.05.25 18:28:00 - [45] Free cip! On another note, HAHAHAHAHA. That is all. My views and opinions are my own.
Death4free The corp corp	Posted - 2008.05.25 18:42:00 - [46] Edited by: Death4free on 25/05/2008 18:41:49 its me im the contractor in the op after being in muffins for a coupla weeks and wiping the floor with hydra i decided they needed to have some more pain while i took a break so i magicked up isk outa nowhere and hired kia Join The Muffin Factory
Setana Manoro Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.25 18:54:00 - [47] Edited by: Setana Manoro on 25/05/2008 19:00:10 Originally by: Angor Originally by: Setana Manoro In the end, from the merc pov, who are you going to pay isk. A corp like BE that makes life miserable with few members, that makes the target lose incredible ammounts of ships, especially against a target that doesn't have a well developed logistics backbone, or are you going to pay the same ammount of isk to KIA to ... do this, and even make the target laugh when they doomsday their own ppl. k/d ratio's go up with titans c/d? Accepting titan donations! I am simply stating the fact that they started using the titans the moment they saw their efficiency in the toilet. They don't fight like you, and they don't have your army of alts - though they did have a couple of spies in Hydra, so using the titans to increase efficiency was all that they could do.
Setana Manoro Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.25 18:59:00 - [48] Edited by: Setana Manoro on 25/05/2008 19:02:08 Originally by: KIAEddZ Edited by: KIAEddZ on 25/05/2008 16:40:48 Edited by: KIAEddZ on 25/05/2008 16:40:33 Originally by: FellRaven There has been some questios asked about the campaign re: Kill Death Ratios. I've done some quick sums based on the information on the Hydra Killboard (First Disclaimer) and have assumed that Kia/Daisho were on the same killmails (That may not hold true particularly for the Titan kills). Final assumption I've only counted real kills not Pods FYI KIA/Daisho killed around 300:30 so this does effect the figures. Hydra losses = 671 (Includes 20 Starbase Structures & 27 Shuttles) Kia losses = 112 Daisho Losses = 93 Kia/Daisho total = 205 Kia Titan kills = 83 Daisho Titan kills = 60 Now I'm sure these figures can be used to support whatever arguement you want. "there are lies, damned lies and statistics.." What is sure is that KIA/Daisho know how to use their Cap Fleet and particularly their Titans. These figures are very incorrect, a is the Hydra Kb. Please review them using access to the KIA and Daisho boards. The KIA kb is 100% accurate for KIA Losses, although we may well be missing a few kills here n there. I have no interest in debating wether we achieved "succesful" killboard stats, hence they are not quoted in my report, the contract goals weren't based upon them. That said, they are good stats by any measure, but when making posts like the one you have made, you really should stay clear of using killboards that are NOT using api calls to update their losses and feeds to maintain their kill lists. You fail. Hydra killboard as it was stated in the threads 2 weeks ago uses an api key to pull killmails. As such, it is the common ground, since not all KIA kills have Daishio on them and not all Daishio kill have KIA on them, and only the combined kills losses of Daishio and KIA can be taken into consideration. You have no interest in debating KB stats, because the KB stats are the ones that prove this was either a failure of a token contract or a fake contract almost gone wrong. Fact is, every merc out there when doing a report about a contract has included kills and losses. You haven't, because your emo, and you still think in your head that you should be c00l enough for the next EVETV tournament. :) The worst thing about KIA right now, is that their 'leader' is more worried about wether he'll get invited to the next Tournament, than about the fact that he almost failed against Hydra.
Angor BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.05.25 19:24:00 - [49] Originally by: Setana Manoro Edited by: Setana Manoro on 25/05/2008 19:02:08 Originally by: KIAEddZ Edited by: KIAEddZ on 25/05/2008 16:40:48 Edited by: KIAEddZ on 25/05/2008 16:40:33 Originally by: FellRaven There has been some questios asked about the campaign re: Kill Death Ratios. I've done some quick sums based on the information on the Hydra Killboard (First Disclaimer) and have assumed that Kia/Daisho were on the same killmails (That may not hold true particularly for the Titan kills). Final assumption I've only counted real kills not Pods FYI KIA/Daisho killed around 300:30 so this does effect the figures. Hydra losses = 671 (Includes 20 Starbase Structures & 27 Shuttles) Kia losses = 112 Daisho Losses = 93 Kia/Daisho total = 205 Kia Titan kills = 83 Daisho Titan kills = 60 Now I'm sure these figures can be used to support whatever arguement you want. "there are lies, damned lies and statistics.." What is sure is that KIA/Daisho know how to use their Cap Fleet and particularly their Titans. These figures are very incorrect, a is the Hydra Kb. Please review them using access to the KIA and Daisho boards. The KIA kb is 100% accurate for KIA Losses, although we may well be missing a few kills here n there. I have no interest in debating wether we achieved "succesful" killboard stats, hence they are not quoted in my report, the contract goals weren't based upon them. That said, they are good stats by any measure, but when making posts like the one you have made, you really should stay clear of using killboards that are NOT using api calls to update their losses and feeds to maintain their kill lists. You fail. Hydra killboard as it was stated in the threads 2 weeks ago uses an api key to pull killmails. As such, it is the common ground, since not all KIA kills have Daishio on them and not all Daishio kill have KIA on them, and only the combined kills losses of Daishio and KIA can be taken into consideration. You have no interest in debating KB stats, because the KB stats are the ones that prove this was either a failure of a token contract or a fake contract almost gone wrong. Fact is, every merc out there when doing a report about a contract has included kills and losses. You haven't, because your emo, and you still think in your head that you should be c00l enough for the next EVETV tournament. :) The worst thing about KIA right now, is that their 'leader' is more worried about wether he'll get invited to the next Tournament, than about the fact that he almost failed against Hydra. I'm feeling the love for Eddz right here. _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!!
KIAEddZ KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.25 19:26:00 - [50] Originally by: Setana Manoro Trolling bs www.bitter.com xx KIA EVE Home KIA in game Public Channel "KIA"
Dungar Loghoth The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.05.25 19:36:00 - [51] Originally by: Cippalippus Primus xxxx > there is no contract Cippalippus Primus > ahah really? xxxx > yup, eddz said he wanted to restore morale or something like that and try to stay away from bob as long as possible lol xxxx > so we went on the other side of the map looking for a target that no one will defend ie hydra Cippalippus Primus > go on xxxx > when bob hit pb eddz asked standings and stuff to keep some outposts there xxxx > bob refused xxxx > so we went on hydra Cippalippus Primus > nice Cippalippus Primus > kia working for bob or hoping to? ehhe, interesting xxxx > not the first time either Cippalippus Primus > ahah let me leak on caod xxxx > just hide my name lol clp rules ---
Metal Dude Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.05.25 19:40:00 - [52] Lets hope that your next 'contract' is down south somewhere. We still have some unpaid 'rent' to collect. The truth will set you free
Haciandu United Dutch Trading	Posted - 2008.05.25 19:53:00 - [53] Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Originally by: Cippalippus Primus xxxx > so we went on the other side of the map looking for a target that no one will defend ie hydra clp rules I think someone forgot that hydra is part of the NC, and could have asked for help at any point.. they didn't, and fought their own fights (mad props and respect to Hydra for that).
Setana Manoro Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.25 19:54:00 - [54] Originally by: KIAEddZ Originally by: Setana Manoro Trolling bs www.bitter.com xx Now say how i must be bitter because you somehow, sometime, owned me while carefully avoiding the questions about efficiency. Puhleassssse :)
Le Mare	Posted - 2008.05.25 20:02:00 - [55] Originally by: Setana Manoro Originally by: KIAEddZ Originally by: Setana Manoro Trolling bs www.bitter.com xx Now say how i must be bitter because you somehow, sometime, owned me while carefully avoiding the questions about efficiency. Puhleassssse :) Dude you seem to have a seriously unhealthy obsession with KIAeddz. Do you need a hug or something?
Necrom Benoic Minds Of Space Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.25 20:24:00 - [56] Originally by: KIAEddZ text Hi KIAEddZ, no smack from me, sorry ;p I want to thank you for your report, i think you archieved your contract as we tried to fight you often ;) As i said to Daischo too, without using titans you would have get much more "good" fights but we where more ;). And again we gained some nice experience fighting aginst your Titans. I liked the Zaol fight where you tried to backtrap us (or better you did it and we lacked of fast tacklers). So like Daisho, its nice to see your titan in fight and not so nice we could not catch him :( Okay on the last day we got Omega bubbled but with your 2-3 MS and massive carriers in system + support it was no option for us to try him :/ You brought nice fights and we did so (not so often as i liked but okay). About repping, yeah our US TZ did good for the first time but when your titan pilots where online 23h a day it was a bit hard to keep on repping. So thanks for the fights, we will for sure shoot us again (or not, who knows G). Necrom Benoic
Ariko Gunaris Office of Ganking and Commerce	Posted - 2008.05.25 21:06:00 - [57] Edited by: Ariko Gunaris on 25/05/2008 21:07:52 KIA -- crap posts about fake contracts from a crap alliance. I wonder what KIA's next "contract" will be. Someone soft and squishy, perhaps providence or the drone regions?
dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.25 21:37:00 - [58] looks like both sides had fun and enjoyed themselves. Still trying to figure out why so many people are trolling this thread with alts. glad you kids had fun o/ Stop banning me please
NereSky Trinity Nova Trinity Nova Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.25 21:42:00 - [59] Originally by: Ariko Gunaris Edited by: Ariko Gunaris on 25/05/2008 21:07:52 KIA -- crap posts about fake contracts from a crap alliance. I wonder what KIA's next "contract" will be. Someone soft and squishy, perhaps providence or the drone regions? Im sure KIA will agree if the amount charged for a contract is paid it doesnt matter who the tgt will be - if someone paid me enough id shoot at anyone - crap in ur eyes or uber makes no differance to me as im sure any merc will say the same. with that last statement im sure you really dont know what merc work is about - employee pays xxx isk to basically meet the contractual goals against the specified tgt
Wraith foc Destructive Influence	Posted - 2008.05.25 22:13:00 - [60] Originally by: Ariko Gunaris Why would anyone but a fool pay KIA anything ITT.. an alt calling someone else a fool..

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