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Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.26 13:18:00 - [1] Most of CAOD won't care about this thread, but will post anyway. The truth is, most of CAOD isn't supposed to care about this thread, as it is primarily about a couple of entities that none of you know yet (one of which you never really will). For the few people who ARE supposed to read this thread, I submit the following hook: ITT: GOON PETS SET BOB BLUE That's right. And we have proof or it. First, though, without going too far into TL;DR status (I know, I already have, but deal with it), a little bit of background. A long time ago a Goon Pet alliance called VENOM, made up of Viper Co., THEMM, SMRI and others helped take D2EZ-X in Omist. I don't know all the details, but I've seen some pretty fun-looking screenshots. Goons let them keep the station and the constellation. Months later, treachery and backstabbing led SMRI to form its own alliance. They called this alliance Anthrax Death (ANTX). SMRI's CEO, Soulara, is (apparently) some sort of ex-goon or something, and has strong personal ties to the swarm. So naturally, ANTX would be another Goon pet alliance. Many corporations went with SMRI, including INSU and eventually DFIAS (that's me), as a lot of people could see parts of the failure that VENOM Alliance was about to experience. Fast forward a couple more months, UNL resets standings, VENOM handles it poorly and is summarily erased from 0.0 by United Legion. Key players in the backstabbing that took place within VENOM Alliance were TeamBETAAlpha, TheBEANman and Mizztres Death (GKM) - but even to those who were close to the situation, it was difficult to see who was playing who and to what end. And so, as VENOM collapsed, more corporations were accepted into ANTX, including GKM. At that time, ANTX were still neutral with UNL and Mizztres Death was able to do what none of the diplos in ANTX had managed to do up to that point: he managed to arrange standings with United Legion and so we watched in safety as UNL stepped their operations up to full throttle and struck the final blow, taking D2EZ-X, NZW and DZ6 away from VENOM (they'd gotten the latter 2 stations from KOS as KOS fell under -A-'s might). Right around the time this was happening, Soulara, the CEO of SMRI and Executor of ANTX was making a deal with IRC to purchase the station at C9N. Remember a month or so ago when there was that thread, "What's happening in C9N?" Here's the actual answer: ANTX bought C9N from Intrepid Crossing for a sum of 12B. However, at the exact moment sov flipped and ANTX was about to go about beating the station down to 'capture' it, in jumps a massive Stain Empire capital fleet with incredible support. In short order, the ANTX "deathstar" was destroyed and replaced by an SE tower. A lot of lies would be told, a lot of politicking would be done, but in the end it was clear to those who saw it - ANTX had been set up and played masterfully... not that we'd made it difficult to do. It was handled terribly on our end, and we all acknowledge that. It was incredibly bad for morale, though, which was to be expected. We all dried our tears and went back to Omist, to subsist on the crap space between UNL and TCF - the stuff nobody else wanted. Then, only a week or two later, Mizztres Death (remember, the savior who had gotten standings with UNL sorted out), tells Soulara that his contact(s) in UNL might be willing to make a deal for 2 Promethium moons SMRI held in Omist, next door to the D2EZ-X station system that UNL had recently taken from VENOM. The deal Mizztres Death described to Soulara and the rest of the ANTX CEOs was that SMRI would give up the two moons and UNL would hand over NZW, DZ6 and both constellations. It was a concern that -A- was close by, naturally. Mizztres Death assured us all that his UNL contact promised they could talk to -A- and get ANTX set blue. But at the same time, another CEO in ANTX was talking to a different contact in UNL, and being told that it wasn't going to happen - period. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.26 13:18:00 - [2] This other ANTX CEO told Soulara of the negative news from UNL, but Soulara made a very normal mistake. He heard a good story, and a bad one, and he decided to believe in the good story, no matter how unrealistic (-A- is notably difficult to get positive standings with - they're not generaly known as a NAP alliance and they certainly had no need for standings with a group like ANTX!). This led to a struggle for power and favor in the alliance, and it began to split along party lines, just as VENOM had done. Lies were told and backs were stabbed and finally, the fact that Mizztres Death had indeed come through on the UNL standings issue, and then arranged for ANTX to come into possession of NZW (SMRI did in fact hand over its 2 Promethium moons in Omist, but only got NZW in return - it appears that MD lied about the inclusion of DZ6 in the bargain), these 2 very solid points in MD's favor were all he needed to convince Soulara to boot INSU from ANTX on the grounds of non-participation. INSU had been renting TCF space in Omist still, instead of committing billions of ISK to NZW as they had done for C9N. NZW's constellation has 6 Bistot belts, in WSK. No Arkonor, no other Bistot, the truesec of the space is atrocious - it would've been impossible for INSU to work to recuperate its losses form the C9N debacle in Tenerifis in the space SMRI had purchased. No matter how many times they explained to Soulara that they had no problem 'participating' but they had capital ships and raw ISK to replace, it fell on deaf (and dazzled) ears. And so one day, with no warning, no mention to the rest of the alliance CEOs, no nothing, INSU were kicked from Anthrax Death and set to -10.0 standings. I immediately set corp standings positive and advised my people that under no circumstances were they to engage an INSU ship. I was not the only ANTX CEO to do so. At this point, there were plenty of laughs about it between Soulara, Mizztres Death and their toadies (primarily MOAN and T5K, two corporations whose CEOs are RL brothers). Mizztres Death told Soulara over and over that he would use his connections to make sure INSU were neutral or red to UNL and TCF and would be kicked out of Omist. It never happened. When INSU formed DEFI4NT alliance, MD swore that TCF and UNL would not give the new entity standings or docking rights. They did. ANTX launched attacks on DEFY in TCF's space in Omist - TCF forced ANTX and DEFY to exchange blue standings and cease fire in TCF space. This arrangement quickly degenerated as hostilities commenced outside of TCF space, with DEFY showing that it was not afraid, traveling the 20+ jumps from Omist to NZW to strike back at ANTX's own 'stronghold'. There is no disputing who has made a better showing. DEFY has consistently defeated Anthrax Death gangs. Citing stress and RL health issues, Soulara has reportedly removed himself and all of his alts from SMRI corporation, forming a brand new corporation of which the description states that they're just mining ice in highsec space. When he left, he transfered control of the station to Mizztres Death and GKM. MD was the new head of ANTX. This didn't last long, but during his brief tenure, having been so thoroughly trounced by upstart alliance DEFY, MD made a deal with the devil. Goodfellas alliance is a regular group of faces in Omist and Tenerifis (and elsewhere I'm sure). They roam in nanogangs - usually of 4 or 5 ships, often with a few BoB pilots along for the ride to fly with old friends. Their efficiency is indisputable, they're good at what they do. Mizztres Death payed Goodfellas to attack DEFY but leave ANTX alone. Because BoB flies with GODS often, MD was told he would have to set BoB blue to ANTX. He did. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.26 13:19:00 - [3] Proof or STFU, right? Okay, no problem. One night, while a DEFY fleet was hanging out in NZW, having forced everyone to dock up and camping the station, playing with a Revelation that they'd undocked (knowing it would just dock once it was really in trouble, as it had come out with no support fleet whatsoever) the strangest thing happened. A Goodfellas/BoB gang, twice the size of their normal nano fleets, jumped into the system, came right to the station, and instead of engaging the dread naught that by this time was beyond docking range and clearly in distress, they went right to work in systematically dismantling the DEFY fleet. We even got this part on video. A few words were exchanged on local, and Redia, INSU Director and one of the leaders of DEFY, convo'd Endeva and Drug Kito to find out what exactly had just happened. Quote: --------------------------------------------------------------- Channel ID: 2132087000 Channel Name: Private Chat (alone) Listener: Redia Session started: 2008.05.23 01:45:10 --------------------------------------------------------------- [ 2008.05.23 01:45:20 ] Endeva > yo [ 2008.05.23 01:45:22 ] Redia > hey mate can i ask you somethink [ 2008.05.23 01:45:28 ] Endeva > yes [ 2008.05.23 01:45:37 ] Redia > do you know anthrax work with the goons? [ 2008.05.23 01:45:46 ] Endeva > probably [ 2008.05.23 01:45:49 ] Endeva > but not sure [ 2008.05.23 01:45:52 ] Drug Kito > hey [ 2008.05.23 01:45:58 ] Drug Kito > doesnt matter, money is money [ 2008.05.23 01:46:15 ] Endeva > they might working:) [ 2008.05.23 01:46:24 ] Endeva > kito is half ceo [ 2008.05.23 01:46:28 ] Endeva > and i am second half:) [ 2008.05.23 01:46:35 ] Endeva > i dont do private [ 2008.05.23 01:46:39 ] Endeva > only with him:) [ 2008.05.23 01:46:44 ] Endeva > so whats up:) [ 2008.05.23 01:46:50 ] Endeva > besides goons [ 2008.05.23 01:47:10 ] Redia > bob and goons still fighting yet you help goon pets out? [ 2008.05.23 01:47:22 ] Endeva > i dont know if they are pets [ 2008.05.23 01:47:26 ] Endeva > we help for money [ 2008.05.23 01:47:31 ] Endeva > and we kill goons [ 2008.05.23 01:47:36 ] Endeva > check our kb [ 2008.05.23 01:47:40 ] Redia > how much could i hire for then [ 2008.05.23 01:47:40 ] Endeva > we killed 1.6k of gons [ 2008.05.23 01:47:42 ] Endeva > goons* [ 2008.05.23 01:47:48 ] Endeva > for who [ 2008.05.23 01:47:50 ] Endeva > and how long [ 2008.05.23 01:48:02 ] Redia > the dread surely would have been a better tropphy [ 2008.05.23 01:48:24 ] Redia > just to stay away whilst we do away with anthrax [ 2008.05.23 01:48:25 ] Endeva > we like killing bses more:) [ 2008.05.23 01:48:36 ] Endeva > dreads are no fun [ 2008.05.23 01:48:44 ] Endeva > but we wont miss dread kills also:) [ 2008.05.23 01:49:04 ] Endeva > so basicly [ 2008.05.23 01:49:07 ] Endeva > you wanna us [ 2008.05.23 01:49:19 ] Endeva > to stay away from you [ 2008.05.23 01:49:21 ] Endeva > in your fights [ 2008.05.23 01:49:24 ] Redia > soulara lolz what a wimp hireing mercs tut tut [ 2008.05.23 01:49:25 ] Endeva > against antraxx [ 2008.05.23 01:49:53 ] Redia > how much did he pay yas? [ 2008.05.23 01:50:01 ] Redia > and for how long ? [ 2008.05.23 01:50:10 ] Redia > if you dont mind i askin [ 2008.05.23 01:50:13 ] Drug Kito > 1b/week for not touching them and engaging their hostiles when around Oh, really... But wait, there's more? Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Prontifex THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2008.05.26 13:19:00 - [4] didnt read any of it, but first
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.26 13:20:00 - [5] Quote: [ 2008.05.23 01:53:59 ] Drug Kito > ya, from today till end of next week [ 2008.05.23 01:54:04 ] Endeva > http://kb.eve-gods.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=11308 [ 2008.05.23 01:54:08 ] Endeva > after this fight [ 2008.05.23 01:54:24 ] Drug Kito > but if you guys need help [ 2008.05.23 01:54:26 ] Drug Kito > with them [ 2008.05.23 01:54:32 ] Endeva > we had 3 of their carriers scrambled and dread 100k from station [ 2008.05.23 01:54:33 ] Drug Kito > im gonna return their isk [ 2008.05.23 01:54:35 ] Endeva > so we make a deal [ 2008.05.23 01:54:42 ] Drug Kito > and take yours (since theyre goon pets) [ 2008.05.23 01:55:05 ] YelowJack > yep ... we got no standings with goons [ 2008.05.23 01:55:23 ] Drug Kito > ok, if you wanna make a deal its fine by me... hate goons anyway [ 2008.05.23 01:55:35 ] Endeva > yeh [ 2008.05.23 01:56:01 ] Endeva > http://kb.eve-gods.org/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=216 [ 2008.05.23 01:56:03 ] Drug Kito > 1bil/week for usual gangs + 1bil for capital help [ 2008.05.23 01:56:03 ] Endeva > we hate goons:) [ 2008.05.23 01:56:24 ] Drug Kito > + we operate under our own FCs only [ 2008.05.23 01:57:22 ] Redia > ok when do you get paid [ 2008.05.23 01:57:24 ] YelowJack > so you guys got 2 biul from anthrax ? for saving their dread and for the 1 week contract? [ 2008.05.23 01:57:42 ] Endeva > we didnt do capital supoort [ 2008.05.23 01:57:44 ] Endeva > so only 1 [ 2008.05.23 01:57:46 ] Drug Kito > no, only 1 week contract [ 2008.05.23 01:57:51 ] Endeva > we dont need caps:) [ 2008.05.23 01:57:59 ] Drug Kito > 1bil is for our capitals killing poses and ** [ 2008.05.23 01:59:10 ] Endeva > tell your guys to move with scout:) [ 2008.05.23 01:59:19 ] Drug Kito > so if you guys want to contract us im willing to give them back isk [ 2008.05.23 01:59:20 ] Endeva > we are still in the area:) [ 2008.05.23 01:59:25 ] Drug Kito > just because theyre goon pets [ 2008.05.23 01:59:37 ] Endeva > nah we dont need to return isk we gonna just kill em:) [ 2008.05.23 01:59:42 ] Endeva > goons for free:) [ 2008.05.23 01:59:48 ] Drug Kito > + youll have to set bob as blue coz theyre sometimes in gang with us [ 2008.05.23 01:59:56 ] Drug Kito > for duration of contract [ 2008.05.23 02:00:16 ] YelowJack > i understand ... so you guys now on standby for anthrax death .. they scream they are under attack .. and you guys come to save their day .... lmao ... oh man, was an epic fail but was funny to see AD is desperate like that ... [ 2008.05.23 02:00:17 ] Endeva > with some bob So not only did this Goon Pet alliance ANTX hire Goodfellas, but also agreed to set BoB blue for the duration. Welp. When this got out, they CEOs remaining in ANTX did all they could to cover it up and they moved quickly to take over the alliance, booting GKM (and MD with them) by surprise. Constantinus Maximus, CEO of PAX Interstellar Services, took over but didn't know exactly how taking a station worked so at the time of this post, he has accepted a GKM application to return to ANTX with the intention of allowing Mizztres Death to peacefully transfer the station to him so he can re-expel GKM from ANTX. He contacted DEFY Executrix ms kypp about a possible end to hostilities. During that conversation, while discussing the fact that Mizztres Death had spread a rumor that DEFY were BoB pets (which is untrue), Constantinus Maximus inadvertently admits that ANTX hired Goodfellas (which, in turn, means that they set BoB blue). Originally by:** techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
MinmatarCitizen 90242 THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2008.05.26 13:20:00 - [6] tl;dr
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.26 13:20:00 - [7] Quote: [ 2008.05.26 00:49:00 ] Constantinus Maximus > so yeah....... at the end of the day...... I'm sure we can work together, prosper together even, between the 2 alliances it could work well even........ [ 2008.05.26 00:49:26 ] Constantinus Maximus > only thing getting in the way of that which I can see is if you guys start having goon problems [ 2008.05.26 00:49:37 ] ms kypp > start? [ 2008.05.26 00:49:47 ] ms kypp > they will have nothing to do with us [ 2008.05.26 00:49:53 ] ms kypp > are names are mud [ 2008.05.26 00:50:03 ] ms kypp > and we have done nothing to deserve that [ 2008.05.26 00:50:16 ] Constantinus Maximus > yeah that's the hard part, if u'r seen as BoB pets and us as Goon pets, it's a lil hard to be friends [ 2008.05.26 00:50:20 ] ms kypp > md has done a proper job [ 2008.05.26 00:50:34 ] ms kypp > were seen as bob pets? [ 2008.05.26 00:50:58 ] ms kypp > i think u'll find we shout more bobs in a day than u do all week [ 2008.05.26 00:51:06 ] Constantinus Maximus > that came up as part of a load of bull**, was all so confusing and random that it had to be bull :-) [ 2008.05.26 00:51:15 ] ms kypp > no this is it [ 2008.05.26 00:51:25 ] ms kypp > lol [ 2008.05.26 00:51:28 ] ms kypp > thats so funny [ 2008.05.26 00:51:32 ] ms kypp > the facts are out [ 2008.05.26 00:51:42 ] ms kypp > and to turn this he needs to be quick [ 2008.05.26 00:52:19 ] ms kypp > christ next i'll be told i have spy in my corp [ 2008.05.26 00:52:56 ] ms kypp > concidering that most of my guys are family and friends i wont bother to look lol [ 2008.05.26 00:53:01 ] Constantinus Maximus > the connection was made that we hired goodfellas onto u*, something which has also been called into doubt...... u guys said to goodfellas 'why u working for AD when they're goon pets'...... and that resulted in BoB and goodfellas having u blue [ 2008.05.26 00:53:24 ] ms kypp > lol we woul dhave been told we were tcf pets [ 2008.05.26 00:53:31 ] ms kypp > we recide at tcf Mizztres Death used the little bit of chat that took place on local as Goodfellas and BoB pounced in defense of ANTX to try a PR spin that that brief exchange of smack on local would mean that suddenly Band of Brothers set DEFI4NT to +10.0 standings and were moving us into the heart of Delve as faithful BoB pets. Pfft. One thing that I found interesting is that, while CM admits that ANTX hired Goodfellas and set BoB blue, nowhere does he say that this arrangement has been called off. While MD might have been the one to make the deal, even though he's no longer in ANTX, Constantinus Maximus confirms that it wasn't just Mizztres Death acting alone - the rest of the ANTX leadership knew about it and his lack of apology or verbal renunciation of that agreement between MD and Endeva + Drug Kito implies acceptance, approval and support of the deal. Indeed, I'm sure that he's happy to have GODS and BoB protecting his flank from DEFY while ANTX works to sort out control of their constellation during the current change of power. There's an entire convo between ms kypp and Constantinus Maximus that would take up three posts in and of itself, but I think I've posted enough here for one morning. The purpose of this post is to make public every piece of evidence we have to preemptively protect ourselves fromt he stream of lies that we know is about to be told to Tau Ceti Federation (our landlords), United Legion (our closest powerful neighbors) and GoonSwarm (they're everywhere). DEFI4NT are not BoB pets. We're not anybody's* pets. We may rent space as tenants of TCF, but we'll fight our own battles. Havohej DFIAS CEO Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.26 13:21:00 - [8] Originally by: MinmatarCitizen 90242 tl;dr Your name got changed by the GMs. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
MinmatarCitizen 90242 THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2008.05.26 13:23:00 - [9] Edited by: MinmatarCitizen 90242 on 26/05/2008 13:23:46 I like what you did with your alliance name. The 4 in "Defi4nt" really adds flair. You should totally get the GMs to change your corp name to "The Def4is Brotherhood" to keep with the theme.
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.26 13:27:00 - [10] Originally by: MinmatarCitizen 90242 Edited by: MinmatarCitizen 90242 on 26/05/2008 13:23:46 I like what you did with your alliance name. The 4 in "Defi4nt" really adds flair. You should totally get the GMs to change your corp name to "The Def4is Brotherhood" to keep with the theme. I'll take that under advisement - I just wish there was a box I could check for support of that idea! \/ Seriously though, even if it's content not many people care about, it's still content Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Astasia Orian Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.05.26 13:34:00 - [11] Is this a big long troll/fakepost or should I read it?
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.26 13:35:00 - [12] Originally by: Astasia Orian Is this a big long troll/fakepost or should I read it? Real post, no troll, complete with non-rickroll video (hosted on eve-files <3 Chribba) in the third part. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Courtney Brown The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.26 13:36:00 - [13] you should read it. don't post here if you don't read and Comprehend what you read. It is real people. Courtney Brown
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.26 13:36:00 - [14] Originally by: Courtney Brown you should read it. don't post here if you don't read and Comprehend what you read. It is real people. lol Courtney - **poasting on threads you haven't read is part of CAOD's charm Originally by:** techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Astasia Orian Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.05.26 13:40:00 - [15] hey it was an honest question
Takashi Halamoto THE INSURGENCY DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.26 13:42:00 - [16] Edited by: Takashi Halamoto on 26/05/2008 13:42:21 One small note, Insu had corp standings of blue to unl over a week before Mizz Death arranged them for ANTX from what i remember/was told but yeah the aftermath of our campaign so far is that apparently PAX in ANTX made a powerplay and kicked GKM and Mizz Death out (though they have to bring them back in today because they forgot to get them to hand over the station first and they tried to hammer it last night) Me? im just sitting here,
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.26 13:43:00 - [17] Edited by: Havohej on 26/05/2008 13:46:19 Originally by: Astasia Orian hey it was an honest question No worries - was just pointing out the intricacies of CAOD to my corpmate. This is our first post evar as a corp or alliance in CAOD, so I'm trying really hard to play by the rules PS: gonna take a nap, see y'all later. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
MineralOel Steuer OP EC	Posted - 2008.05.26 13:53:00 - [18] is there a tl,dr version?
Prontifex THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2008.05.26 13:57:00 - [19] Originally by: MineralOel Steuer is there a tl,dr version? DEFI4NT are not BoB pets. We're not anybody's pets. We may rent space as tenants of TCF, but we'll fight our own battles.
Takashi Halamoto THE INSURGENCY DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.26 13:59:00 - [20] Originally by: MineralOel Steuer is there a tl,dr version? ill try ANTX is ex venom goon pet ANTX overreached for c9n Stain kicked them cost some corps alot INSU one corp said we dont want to go to NZW its bad for ANTX ANTX kicks INSU sets to red tries to get kicked out of 0.0 INSU form DEFI4NT and poach several ANTX corps http://defalli.griefwatch.net/?p=campaigns&campaign=3305 oh and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1lfQ-lZay0 Evidence suggests ANTX hired Goodfellas (bob pet) to bail them but are supposed to be goon pet short enough? Me? im just sitting here,
Setana Manoro Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.26 14:05:00 - [21] Originally by: MineralOel Steuer is there a tl,dr version? TCF/UNL pet got standings with BoB. Their foes are posting this to get them attacked by the ruskies and the french.
Emrod Legion Du Lys GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.26 14:07:00 - [22] words. COAD is for morons.......hey...wait a minute 0o !!!
Yue Rubens	Posted - 2008.05.26 14:13:00 - [23] No Setana, this is not quite true. Let me make this clear we have not begged the major forces for help at all. All we want is for them to stay out of this, and respect our campaign against AD. As CEO of Fnord I've also lost a lot to ANTX; let me say this whole thing is not about the money. It's about a commanding tone of voice, being mocked on ts, being lied to, about a military/fascist regime, and us being set to red when questioning stupid orders. We have not asked tcf to fight this war for us, we fight our own battles. Yue Rubens
Endeva Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.05.26 14:14:00 - [24] lol haha Eve needs changes asap
Yue Rubens Fnord Works DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.26 14:47:00 - [25] Edited by: Yue Rubens on 26/05/2008 14:49:03 No man support is obviously the first choice, 6 kills look better than one. I'm sad for me scorp, but good fight guys, I respect your gang. Edit: you know we were not supporting the dread but killing it off, right? :-D
xBlood Anoint Malice.	Posted - 2008.05.26 14:53:00 - [26] Actually a good post for once. Don't have a clue about how much is true or fiction, but it was well worded and a good read. Tldr version (without flaming). Venom goes heads up. Some go to anthrax death who screws over a couple of corps. Those corps make defiant. anthrax death hires a well known 'bob-blue' corp to defend them, and in so doing get blue standings to bob while still being goon/tcf/unl pets. defiant feel butt-hurt Think I got most the points Anoint Recruitment
Endeva Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.05.26 14:57:00 - [27] Originally by: xBlood Actually a good post for once. Don't have a clue about how much is true or fiction, but it was well worded and a good read. Tldr version (without flaming). Venom goes heads up. Some go to anthrax death who screws over a couple of corps. Those corps make defiant. anthrax death hires a well known 'bob-blue' corp to defend them, and in so doing get blue standings to bob while still being goon/tcf/unl pets. defiant feel butt-hurt Think I got most the points rofl you get it right:D Eve needs changes asap
Swifty9	Posted - 2008.05.26 15:04:00 - [28] Very important points made, all of which are true.
Promu Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.05.26 15:18:00 - [29] Quote: Goodfellas alliance is a regular group of faces in Omist and Tenerifis (and elsewhere I'm sure). They roam in nanogangs - usually of 4 or 5 ships, often with a few BoB pilots along for the ride to fly with old friends. Their efficiency is indisputable, they're good at what they do. This is my favourite part of the fairy tale. the rests kinda boring..... Promu p.s coming to a system near you !!!
Drug Kito Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.05.26 15:29:00 - [30] To summarize all this c***: As we're BoB pets, they wanted us to go help Goon pets fight off TCF pets, so Goon pets could earn more ISK to give away to their masters who in turn would get more capitals and bring them to the battlefield so BoB can loot them. To Goon pets: btw, you're late on contract payment.
xBlood Anoint Malice.	Posted - 2008.05.26 15:35:00 - [31] Goodfellas are awesome. Apart from Richard Winters. He's terrible. Anoint Recruitment
thoth foc Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.05.26 15:38:00 - [32] entertaining read tbh i doubt goons will care, as long as it doesnt effect their moons and stations.. they wont care what their renters do amongst themselves btw, it's true Endeva is ebil.. ------------------ x-DSMA (Menta) x-CA (OMEGA/BOS) x-.5.(ATUK) BOB (DICE)
Richard Winters Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.05.26 16:07:00 - [33] yeah GoodFellas are great hehe but Xblood wanted me so bad to his corp but i stayed here becouse i like it more here ;D (why would he invite a noob to corp???) :D ------------------------------------------------ Our disease, everywhere I wander I trail the song of your despair, everywhere don't you breathe, don't you dare? Only life, do you care when it'
Claire Lacombe GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.26 16:25:00 - [34] Originally by: thoth foc entertaining read tbh i doubt goons will care, as long as it doesnt effect their moons and stations.. they wont care what their renters do amongst themselves btw, it's true Endeva is ebil.. I think you "get" goons.
PsychoBones R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency	Posted - 2008.05.26 17:33:00 - [35] A good writeup, true or not. Would read again.
praznimrak	Posted - 2008.05.26 18:48:00 - [36] That brutix was lucky.I did not have dmg control so i hade to warp out.And nobody else had point on him.Next time.Normaly i dont fly ishkur.Well see you out there
Creamster Xenobytes Stain Empire	Posted - 2008.05.26 18:49:00 - [37] 12 bil ? I've had no idea ___________ In Petition we trust
Caius Sivaris Dark Nexxus	Posted - 2008.05.26 19:20:00 - [38] Originally by: PsychoBones A good writeup, true or not. Would read again. As an ex-VENOM, having dealt with most of the people involved, I believe it with 95% confidence.
xBlood Anoint Malice.	Posted - 2008.05.26 19:43:00 - [39] Originally by: Richard Winters yeah GoodFellas are great hehe but Xblood wanted me so bad to his corp but i stayed here becouse i like it more here ;D (why would he invite a noob to corp???) :D I only wanted ya cause you seem like a ****in officer magnet! You got like 3 in 2 weeks and I wanted a share of the profits Anoint Recruitment
Lucus Ranger Scream Inc. Moral Decay.	Posted - 2008.05.26 19:49:00 - [40] Originally by: xBlood Originally by: Richard Winters yeah GoodFellas are great hehe but Xblood wanted me so bad to his corp but i stayed here becouse i like it more here ;D (why would he invite a noob to corp???) :D I only wanted ya cause you seem like a ***in officer magnet! You got like 3 in 2 weeks and I wanted a share of the profits God sake you two.. stop bickering... anyone would think you were an old married couple... Hmmmmmm... /Prince of Darkness at your service..* Disclaimer: None of my ideas or posting reflects my Alliance/Corp in any
xBlood Anoint Malice.	Posted - 2008.05.26 19:55:00 - [41] Edited by: xBlood on 26/05/2008 19:56:01 Originally by: Lucus Ranger Originally by: xBlood Originally by: Richard Winters yeah GoodFellas are great hehe but Xblood wanted me so bad to his corp but i stayed here becouse i like it more here ;D (why would he invite a noob to corp???) :D I only wanted ya cause you seem like a ****in officer magnet! You got like 3 in 2 weeks and I wanted a share of the profits God sake you two.. stop bickering... anyone would think you were an old married couple... Hmmmmmm... We aren't even that good! He refuses to live in the same house as me Anoint Recruitment
Lucus Ranger Scream Inc. Moral Decay.	Posted - 2008.05.26 20:00:00 - [42] Originally by: xBlood We aren't even that good! He refuses to live in the same house as me Ah That makes me sad.. Although tbh doesn't surprise me.. when we were together he didn't even want to be in the same room as me /Prince of Darkness at your service.. Disclaimer: None of my ideas or posting reflects my Alliance/Corp in any
xBlood Anoint Malice.	Posted - 2008.05.26 20:02:00 - [43] Originally by: Lucus Ranger Originally by: xBlood We aren't even that good! He refuses to live in the same house as me Ah That makes me sad.. Although tbh doesn't surprise me.. when we were together he didn't even want to be in the same room as me Can't say I blame him Anoint Recruitment
Lucus Ranger Scream Inc. Moral Decay.	Posted - 2008.05.26 20:03:00 - [44] Originally by: xBlood Can't say I blame him Well.. you didn't complain last night.. /Prince of Darkness at your service.. Disclaimer: None of my ideas or posting reflects my Alliance/Corp in any
xBlood Anoint Malice.	Posted - 2008.05.26 20:03:00 - [45] Originally by: Lucus Ranger Originally by: xBlood Can't say I blame him Well.. you didn't complain last night.. Shoulda seen me on the phone to trist. I was *****in all night long. Anoint Recruitment
Lucus Ranger Scream Inc. Moral Decay.	Posted - 2008.05.26 20:06:00 - [46] Originally by: xBlood Shoulda seen me on the phone to trist. I was ***in all night long. On the phone? all night long?.. **in?... Something more was going on... I bet.. /Prince of Darkness at your service..* Disclaimer: None of my ideas or posting reflects my Alliance/Corp in any
xBlood Anoint Malice.	Posted - 2008.05.26 20:08:00 - [47] Originally by: Lucus Ranger Originally by: xBlood Shoulda seen me on the phone to trist. I was ***in all night long. On the phone? all night long?.. ***in?... Something more was going on... I bet.. What are you suggesting there laddy! Anoint Recruitment
Lucus Ranger Scream Inc. Moral Decay.	Posted - 2008.05.26 20:10:00 - [48] Originally by: xBlood What are you suggesting there laddy! Well Richard mentioned to me earlier he was having some 'fun' (put politly for other readers) on the phone with a certain person all night long... Kinda adds up! /Prince of Darkness at your service.. Disclaimer: None of my ideas or posting reflects my Alliance/Corp in any
xBlood Anoint Malice.	Posted - 2008.05.26 20:14:00 - [49] Originally by: Lucus Ranger Originally by: xBlood What are you suggesting there laddy! Well Richard mentioned to me earlier he was having some 'fun' (put politly for other readers) on the phone with a certain person all night long... Kinda adds up! Well in that case. I'm going to write a note to him telling him how annoyed at him that he talks about me behind my back! It will just NOT do. Pish posh sposh. Anoint Recruitment
Lucus Ranger Scream Inc. Moral Decay.	Posted - 2008.05.26 20:17:00 - [50] Originally by: xBlood Well in that case. I'm going to write a note to him telling him how annoyed at him that he talks about me behind my back! It will just NOT do. Pish posh sposh. Quite, old boy!.. Although I do think the three of us should hook up together at some point /Prince of Darkness at your service.. Disclaimer: None of my ideas or posting reflects my Alliance/Corp in any
Katie Black Morne Attitude	Posted - 2008.05.26 20:20:00 - [51] Originally by: Endeva future edit: i can confirm half of gang was drunk What he said
xBlood Anoint	Posted - 2008.05.26 20:22:00 - [52] Originally by: Lucus Ranger Originally by: xBlood Well in that case. I'm going to write a note to him telling him how annoyed at him that he talks about me behind my back! It will just NOT do. Pish posh sposh. Quite, old boy!.. Although I do think the three of us should hook up together at some point Oh yes old chap. Tally ho and all that malarky! Btw, hows the missions working out for ya you big bear? Anoint Recruitment
Lucus Ranger Scream Inc. Moral Decay.	Posted - 2008.05.26 20:27:00 - [53] Originally by: xBlood Oh yes old chap. Tally ho and all that malarky! Btw, hows the missions working out for ya you big bear? Dude, it sucks! It's like accept mission > go kill npcs > finish mission and repeat! :\| /Prince of Darkness at your service.. Disclaimer: None of my ideas or posting reflects my Alliance/Corp in any
xBlood Anoint	Posted - 2008.05.26 20:30:00 - [54] Originally by: Lucus Ranger Originally by: xBlood Oh yes old chap. Tally ho and all that malarky! Btw, hows the missions working out for ya you big bear? Dude, it sucks! It's like accept mission > go kill npcs > finish mission and repeat! :\| Man. That must really suck for you. That's why you should join my corp. Cause then...you do the same thing...but with me in corp. Is so much better...y'kno? Anoint Recruitment
Lucus Ranger Scream Inc. Moral Decay.	Posted - 2008.05.26 20:31:00 - [55] Originally by: xBlood Man. That must really suck for you. That's why you should join my corp. Cause then...you do the same thing...but with me in corp. Is so much better...y'kno? HA! I know your ultierier motive... You just want to abuse me! /Prince of Darkness at your service.. Disclaimer: None of my ideas or posting reflects my Alliance/Corp in any
xBlood Anoint	Posted - 2008.05.26 20:32:00 - [56] Originally by: Lucus Ranger Originally by: xBlood Man. That must really suck for you. That's why you should join my corp. Cause then...you do the same thing...but with me in corp. Is so much better...y'kno? HA! I know your ultierier motive... You just want to abuse me! I stopped reading at ultierier, cause i have no frickin idea what it means Anoint Recruitment
Lucus Ranger Scream Inc. Moral Decay.	Posted - 2008.05.26 20:36:00 - [57] Originally by: xBlood I stopped reading at ultierier, cause i have no frickin idea what it means Sorry meant ulterior damn meh fat fingers! /Prince of Darkness at your service.. Disclaimer: None of my ideas or posting reflects my Alliance/Corp in any
xBlood Anoint	Posted - 2008.05.26 20:37:00 - [58] Originally by: Lucus Ranger Originally by: xBlood I stopped reading at ultierier, cause i have no frickin idea what it means Sorry meant ulterior damn meh fat fingers! Still nop. Anoint Recruitment
Lucus Ranger Scream Inc. Moral Decay.	Posted - 2008.05.26 20:42:00 - [59] Originally by: xBlood Still nop. DUDE! I told you to do that English class... gawd.. It means you have another reason!!! /Prince of Darkness at your service.. Disclaimer: None of my ideas or posting reflects my Alliance/Corp in any
xBlood Anoint	Posted - 2008.05.26 20:45:00 - [60] Originally by: Lucus Ranger Originally by: xBlood Still nop. DUDE! I told you to do that English class... gawd.. It means you have another reason!!! Ohhhh right. I guess that makes sense And yeah...english class looool. I'd rather play eve for life instead of be an englishman! Anoint Recruitment
xBlood Anoint	Posted - 2008.05.26 20:50:00 - [61] Lucus Ranger > dude I cba to post anymore Bleh. Sorry for messing up your thread d00ds. Anoint Recruitment
Kiay Stryx The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.26 21:01:00 - [62] Originally by: praznimrak That brutix was lucky.I did not have dmg control so i hade to warp out.And nobody else had point on him.Next time.Normaly i dont fly ishkur.Well see you out there Yeah I'm surprised I got away myself =)
Richard Winters Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.05.26 21:12:00 - [63] Originally by: xBlood Lucus Ranger > dude I cba to post anymore Bleh. Sorry for messing up your thread d00ds. oke u 2 i see Lucus stealing my love Xblood so i will let him do it eheh becouse i merrid Xblood becouse he have nice friends (girls) hehe :P no more posting for me here (i dont know this guys) ------------------------------------------------ Our disease, everywhere I wander I trail the song of your despair, everywhere don't you breathe, don't you dare? Only life, do you care when it'
Kiay Stryx The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.26 21:15:00 - [64] 1920x1200 version of the same video is here...
Faekurias Cash Money Brothers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.26 21:24:00 - [65] Wow, that's some post. Sig locked, abuse of use - for more information mail [email protected]
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.26 22:11:00 - [66] Originally by: Endeva Originally by: xBlood Actually a good post for once. Don't have a clue about how much is true or fiction, but it was well worded and a good read. Tldr version (without flaming). Venom goes heads up. Some go to anthrax death who screws over a couple of corps. Those corps make defiant. anthrax death hires a well known 'bob-blue' corp to defend them, and in so doing get blue standings to bob while still being goon/tcf/unl pets. defiant feel butt-hurt Think I got most the points rofl you get it right:D Excellent summary by xBlood. I'm actually going to add it to the last part of the OP. o/ Endeva - that Stiletto 1v1 in NZW is still one of the most fun/invigorating fights I've had in this game. I find the lack of ANTX is this thread amusing. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Endeva Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.05.26 22:34:00 - [67] Edited by: Endeva on 26/05/2008 22:34:07 Originally by: Havohej Originally by: Endeva Originally by: xBlood Actually a good post for once. Don't have a clue about how much is true or fiction, but it was well worded and a good read. Tldr version (without flaming). Venom goes heads up. Some go to anthrax death who screws over a couple of corps. Those corps make defiant. anthrax death hires a well known 'bob-blue' corp to defend them, and in so doing get blue standings to bob while still being goon/tcf/unl pets. defiant feel butt-hurt Think I got most the points rofl you get it right:D Excellent summary by xBlood. I'm actually going to add it to the last part of the OP. o/ Endeva - that Stiletto 1v1 in NZW is still one of the most fun/invigorating fights I've had in this game. I find the lack of ANTX is this thread amusing. yeh same m8 for me. if eve has more 1vs1 nice fights like that one. gf O/ Eve needs changes asap
Franziska Nietzche Tucher Associates Inc. Zzz	Posted - 2008.05.26 22:35:00 - [68] Maybe they're simply ignoring you. How long have you been a CEO? You should know by now that EVE politics are never pretty.
Endeva Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.05.26 22:59:00 - [69] Originally by: Franziska Nietzche Maybe they're simply ignoring you. How long have you been a CEO? You should know by now that EVE politics are never pretty. yeh lots of them are ignoring me and i know what is the reason:P what how long i am ceo have to do with anything here? i dont need politics. thats for****s. i got guns Eve needs changes asap
Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.05.26 23:18:00 - [70] You've added 1+1 up to 5000 :-) Anthrax Death has never been or had BoB or Goodfellas as blue, they are red, pure and simple. Anthrax Death has at no stage hired Goodfellas, this appears to be Defi4nt spin to cover their own tracks, if someone did, take it up with them. It is clear from the chatlog with CM (my alt) that my only concerns with us being blue to Defi4nt would be any connections Defi4nt has to BoB as no one around here wants that. It's also clear that I refer to the Goodfellas incident as a rumor and that the sources of it had been called into doubt. Nice try however your claims lack any real substance as they are based purely on a number of false assumptions. Anyone with questions can contact myself or Mizztres Death Dr BattleSmith
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.26 23:36:00 - [71] A Fraps of an unusually large GODS/BOB gang rushing to the rescue of your dread has substance. A chatlog with the CEOs of MOWE has substance. Those same two MOWE CEOs' posts in this very thread have substance. You, not saying that it was false when you spoke with our Executrix, has substance. You changed the subject away from the incident as quickly as you could in that conversation. You said "the connection was made and has been called into doubt." Not, "we didn't do that." If you hadn't done it, you wouldn't have chosen the words "the connection was made" as, in your mind, there would be no connection to make in the first place, the whole thing would be so much rubbish. Your choice of words let slip a confession - all the substance we needed to post this publicly. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Azrail Almooran Old Dominion Engineering Nihil-Obstat	Posted - 2008.05.26 23:45:00 - [72] Edited by: Azrail Almooran on 26/05/2008 23:45:34 Originally by: Havohej A Fraps of an unusually large GODS/BOB gang rushing to the rescue of your dread has substance. A chatlog with the CEOs of MOWE has substance. Those same two MOWE CEOs' posts in this very thread have substance. He has you there, a chat log of them admiting it seems pretty conclusive to me.
Giz S	Posted - 2008.05.27 01:51:00 - [73] Personally we don't care what you guys think. we were told not to engage Defiant in Omist, but when we were engaged TCF was contacted and they gave us the Go-Ahead to attack us because you guys wouldn't follow their rules. After several weeks things changed( such as the new "corp" tax inacted to rob us of out money) and several other things where corps went to defiant to be "tcf pets". my own ceo at the time removed me of all my roles becuase i told the alliance heads about a possible attack, and then left the alliance. To be honest we dont care how you decide to spin the facts, but we all know who the problem is, and its not mizztres. its the guy that is playing "secret squirrel games".
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 02:03:00 - [74] Originally by: Giz S Personally we don't care what you guys think. we were told not to engage Defiant in Omist, but when we were engaged TCF was contacted and they gave us the Go-Ahead to attack us because you guys wouldn't follow their rules. After several weeks things changed( such as the new "corp" tax inacted to rob us of out money) and several other things where corps went to defiant to be "tcf pets". my own ceo at the time removed me of all my roles becuase i told the alliance heads about a possible attack, and then left the alliance. To be honest we dont care how you decide to spin the facts, but we all know who the problem is, and its not mizztres. its the guy that is playing "secret squirrel games". Post with your main and turn your corp and alliance ticker on - it's under Forum>Settings on the left. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Gizan Marines Of A New Dawn ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.05.27 02:07:00 - [75] Personally we don't care what you guys think. we were told not to engage Defiant in Omist, but when we were engaged TCF was contacted and they gave us the Go-Ahead to attack us because you guys wouldn't follow their rules. After several weeks things changed( such as the new "corp" tax inacted to rob us of out money) and several other things where corps went to defiant to be "tcf pets". my own ceo at the time removed me of all my roles becuase i told the alliance heads about a possible attack, and then left the alliance. To be honest we dont care how you decide to spin the facts, but we all know who the problem is, and its not mizztres. its the guy that is playing "secret squirrel games".
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 03:29:00 - [76] Edited by: Havohej on 27/05/2008 03:34:19 Looking at your kb and our kb, I don't see any discrepancies between our posted losses and your posted kills, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. I won't bother looking to see if you're posting all of your losses, as it doesn't matter to us whether you post your killmails or not. Even if you don't post it, that doesn't mean you didn't get blown up. Someone asked me to check, and so I did... there was a POS which got destroyed in g-b3pr. Belonged to ANTX... ANTX's killboard doesn't reflect that. You can find the mail on our killboard and take care of that when you get time, if you care about killboard accuracy and stuff like that. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Orar Ironfist Incarnation of Evil Nocturnal Legion	Posted - 2008.05.27 04:06:00 - [77] I didnt read any of this but wth you doing out of C+P. Back! Bac***k!!!11 we cant have any pirates making threads here or we end up with that absolutely terrible idle guns thread like last time!!1 Pirate for Life(no matter my sec)
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 04:08:00 - [78] Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Ehris Bok Stellar Research Incorporated DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 04:41:00 - [79] Mate ive been reading this while at work (shhh dont tell). I hope people see what kind of tactics Anthrax is using in fighting an alliance half its size. Hmmm makes you think....No ?
jedijed The Subtle Knife ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.05.27 06:17:00 - [80] I dont know anything about all this chatlog and contractin ** but i do know i like to fight REDIA as well as other defiant members:) u guys are always around lookin for a kill:) but you keep my days on eve purposeful. except when were campin u guys in station that ** gets borin and make me waste ammos :( but in anycase u guys are a nice fight win or loose :) shoot me cos im bait :)
Ehris Bok Stellar Research Incorporated DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 06:41:00 - [81] Thats what were here for to have fun this is only a game after all. But you have to have some controversy to it all to keep things interesting
droopie Marines Of A New Dawn ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.05.27 06:53:00 - [82] frickin bs drama crap. fight fight fight and screw the politics
Reaping Death Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.05.27 09:08:00 - [83] Edited by: Reaping Death on 27/05/2008 09:12:50
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 09:13:00 - [84] Post with your main. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Mizztres Death Gods Killing Machines ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.05.27 09:13:00 - [85] Well I wasnt going to post here as i am not a forum type of person but this warrents a reply. Hav I know you are still upset over what had happened to you in Anthrax as you didnt care for soulara and T5K and here is the chat log of you stating that: 2008.05.14 02:22:25 ] Havohej > Likewise. The only people I have any personal issues with are T5K and Soulara, for his unjustified chest thumping and threats when I tried to leave quietly and without drama. [ 2008.05.14 02:23:07 ] Havohej > Everybody else's grudges are their own... I'd rather not be red to quite a few of you guys, but it's beyond my power. =/ [ 2008.05.14 02:23:09 ] Mizztres Death > hell I didint even know what happened between you guys as it is nonoe of my business [ 2008.05.14 02:23:26 ] Mizztres Death > I just do not want to see you and a few others in the crossfrire [ 2008.05.14 02:23:45 ] Mizztres Death > cause goons are not too happy with you guys and a few others from my understanding (hear say from soulara) [ 2008.05.14 02:24:06 ] Havohej > I hated goonswarm anyway :P Now as far as your chat log there when Redia was talking with Endeva it looks like it is more incriminating to you guys then Anthrax. We do not need to hire anyone to fight for us especially against you guys, as far as naming me in any of that please show me your evidence. now we know why you left and why INSU was kicked and that had nothing to do with me as I wasnt able to kick,set standings or anything as I was not allowed to have an alt in SMRI just for the simple fact that Soulara knew I was getting too close to the truth about what he was doing in anthrax. And just so you know once Soular stepped down and handed Ozz and myself the leadership of the alliance i went to Redia and tried to make a peace offering and it was turned down, so I went to tcf leadership and worked things out with them as you are citizens of tcf. Now as for you I thought you were a little smarter than this to fall into the rumours and propaganda. Well I guess i was wrong thats my bad for trying to give you the benifit of the doubt. As far as getting kicked from the allaince yes it happend for what ? roughly 5 minutes..lol PXIS bought Anthrax and SMRI for the sum of 3.5 bil and 1 thanatos and Battlesmith was fed some misinformation and ran with it without knowing all the facts, well now that he has the facts of what was going on everything has been worked out and we are back in the alliance along with holding the station and will continue to do so. There is no reason for me to try too explain myself to anyone just for the simple fact I know what the truth is about whats going on here, and if you think for 1 minute that your post is in anyway going to hurt me you have another thing coming as I havent done anything wrong. So please in the future please get your facts correct as you are looking more like an idiot with every post you make just for the simple fact is that you THINK you know what you are talking about when you truly dont. Anyway have a nice day and i will see you later :)
Yue Rubens Fnord Works DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 09:16:00 - [86] Ok I feel like replying to that crap we have no connection to BoB, we have been red to BoB ever since my corporation set foot in 0.0 and we will never swap allegiance. I'm co-founder and as in charge of defi4nt alliance as the others, with my friends here, and none of us has even talked to BoB. It was md's connection that made us loose our relation with goons and we mourn it, but antx intrigue goes a long way. What were soularas exact words? "Those people are so on my **list now we will use any means so they never find a home in 0.0 again." We are still here. Ask Ol' Delsai, former tcf immensea manager, ask Baline Manager, Fnord holds two offices in tcf stations, and we are proud of our bond to the coalition. It goes back to when we were CDSI and were blue to goons, ra, unl and tcf. I am an omist resident, you are not, we kicked you out of g-b and tcf didn't give a f* - now who's the bob friend, eh? You're still tagged in omist surveillance, but how would you know you've lost access hahahaha. You make me laugh. Yue On a sidenote to the coalition, if there is anything we can do to prove our worth, say it. Though more than half a year of being blue without any incidents should do the job in my opinion.
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 09:35:00 - [87] Everybody who reads C&P, GD, CAOD or the new Assembly Hall has seen me post negatively toward Goons - I don't like them in general. Me and 2 of my corpmates camped a gate with some goons while still in ANTX and I said it to them then during the course of amicable conversation. Some individual goons are alright - the Swarm as a whole just isn't my 'thing'. That's a personal opinion, it's never been hidden or concealed. It also has no bearing on this thread. What's your connection to the hiring of Goodfellas and setting BoB Blue? Simple - you were the Executor of ANTX at that time. Originally by: Mizztres Death And just so you know once Soular stepped down and handed Ozz and myself the leadership of the alliance i went to Redia and tried to make a peace offering and it was turned down, so I went to tcf leadership and worked things out with them as you are citizens of tcf. You're red to us, CDSI, BURN, Nihil-Obstat, etc. Come on down to Omist and see who doesn't shoot at you. I know why you were kicked out of ANTX, and I know why you're back in ANTX. I'll refrain from posting that here until it suits us to do so, because frankly it has nothing to do with the topic at hand which is ANTX hiring GODS to help defend against DEFY, and setting BOB blue in the process. Regardless of how much smoke you try to blow, the video, the chat log between Redia, Endeva and Drug Kito, and Endeva and Drug Kito's posts in this same thread corroborating our allegations can neither be ignored nor denied. Soulara was gone, Dr Battlesmith had not yet assumed control, so that leaves only you. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Mizztres Death Gods Killing Machines ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.05.27 09:37:00 - [88] WoW do you even pay attention to what you read ? look at the post that hav posted it implacates Soulara and Redia and which Soulara is no longer part of Anthrax..lol And I love how Hav left the rest of the convo out of his post :) Look if you cannot pay attention to what you read i will make the post a bit shorter for you..lol [ 2008.05.23 01:47:40 ] Redia > how much could i hire for then [ 2008.05.23 01:55:23 ] Drug Kito > ok, if you wanna make a deal its fine by me... hate goons anyway [ 2008.05.23 01:57:22 ] Redia > ok when do you get paid Those are some of the main comments in this ^ [ 2008.05.23 02:00:17 ] Endeva > with some bob [ 2008.05.23 02:00:21 ] Endeva > not all [ 2008.05.23 02:00:31 ] YelowJack > thats interesting ... [ 2008.05.23 02:00:37 ] Endeva > i think [ 2008.05.23 02:00:41 ] Endeva > they cannot make a gang [ 2008.05.23 02:00:46 ] Endeva > to be big as yours [ 2008.05.23 02:00:55 ] YelowJack > they can [ 2008.05.23 02:01:00 ] YelowJack > they have more members then us [ 2008.05.23 02:01:14 ] Endeva > yeh [ 2008.05.23 02:01:15 ] Redia > x2 more [ 2008.05.23 02:01:23 ] Endeva > but quality > quantity [ 2008.05.23 02:01:41 ] Drug Kito > anyway guys, we need to go.... you want to hire us or not? [ 2008.05.23 02:01:52 ] YelowJack > they just cant stop us .... they are trying to use cap ship to stop us now .... indeed ... they are loosing ships right and left .. [ 2008.05.23 02:01:54 ] Endeva > if you need to think [ 2008.05.23 02:01:57 ] YelowJack > we got think about it m8 [ 2008.05.23 02:01:59 ] Endeva > contact drug kito [ 2008.05.23 02:02:03 ] Endeva > ingame [ 2008.05.23 02:02:08 ] Endeva > you can check our kb [ 2008.05.23 02:02:12 ] Endeva > to see what we do [ 2008.05.23 02:02:24 ] YelowJack > yeap [ 2008.05.23 02:02:26 ] YelowJack > we know :) [ 2008.05.23 02:02:31 ] Endeva > hehe [ 2008.05.23 02:02:33 ] YelowJack > you guys are annoying in nano gangs [ 2008.05.23 02:02:41 ] YelowJack > :) [ 2008.05.23 02:02:44 ] Redia > http://defalli.griefwatch.net/?p=campaigns&campaign=3305 [ 2008.05.23 02:02:45 ] Endeva > lol [ 2008.05.23 02:03:20 ] Redia > thats how pathetic anthrax muppets are [ 2008.05.23 02:03:21 ] Endeva > antraxx is not that good [ 2008.05.23 02:03:32 ] Endeva > i tihnk you can easly solo them [ 2008.05.23 02:03:42 ] Endeva > if they are better they wouldnt stay docked [ 2008.05.23 02:03:47 ] Endeva > while you killing their dread [ 2008.05.23 02:03:55 ] Endeva > they would make a gang [ 2008.05.23 02:03:57 ] Endeva > and fight [ 2008.05.23 02:04:01 ] Redia > they attacked us first and now they cant handle us i mean wtf lolz [ 2008.05.23 02:04:11 ] Endeva > where are u living guys? [ 2008.05.23 02:04:31 ] YelowJack > omist .... [ 2008.05.23 02:04:38 ] Endeva > ah yeh [ 2008.05.23 02:04:42 ] Endeva > i saw you there [ 2008.05.23 02:04:48 ] YelowJack > i saw drug kito some time ago there [ 2008.05.23 02:04:55 ] Endeva > yeh [ 2008.05.23 02:05:03 ] YelowJack > you all croatian? [ 2008.05.23 02:05:08 ] Endeva > not all [ 2008.05.23 02:05:11 ] Endeva > half [ 2008.05.23 02:05:17 ] YelowJack > nice soccer team there [ 2008.05.23 02:05:21 ] YelowJack > not better then brazil tough [ 2008.05.23 02:05:23 ] Endeva > hehe [ 2008.05.23 02:05:25 ] Endeva > thx:) [ 2008.05.23 02:05:28 ] YelowJack > lol [ 2008.05.23 02:05:31 ] Endeva > yeh we are trying [ 2008.05.23 02:06:59 ] Endeva > anyways gtg [ 2008.05.23 02:07:02 ] Endeva > you know who to contaxt [ 2008.05.23 02:07:03 ] YelowJack > well i got you guys in my adressbook ... [ 2008.05.23 02:07:05 ] YelowJack > yep [ 2008.05.23 02:07:06 ] YelowJack > gtg too [ 2008.05.23 02:07:08 ] Redia > ok thx for yer time anyways [ 2008.05.23 02:07:09 ] Drug Kito > o/ [ 2008.05.23 02:07:10 ] Endeva > take care and see ya guys cheers o/ [ 2008.05.23 02:07:14 ] Redia > o7 [ 2008.05.23 02:07:14 ] YelowJack > cya aroun
Moon Kitten GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.05.27 09:43:00 - [89] Edited by: Moon Kitten on 27/05/2008 09:43:59 If an alliance has someone set as hostile do they really have them set as hostile if they never shoot the hostiles?
Mizztres Death Gods Killing Machines ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.05.27 09:49:00 - [90] Edited by: Mizztres Death on 27/05/2008 09:49:37 Sorry fella your facts are still not correct as I was never in SMRI which is the holding corp for the alliance so how could I have possibly set and standings ..lol.. you're re1arded you just do not have a clue. Your whole argument has been washed down the toliet you have no clue what u r talking about and it is showing every time you post, so to save fome face please do not post anymore as it isnt doing you any good
Faekurias Cash Money Brothers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.27 10:05:00 - [91] The more Anthrax posts the more I like DEFY, and the more Goons post the more I like BOB, connection? C/D? Sig locked, abuse of use - for more information mail [email protected]
Mizztres Death Gods Killing Machines ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.05.27 10:05:00 - [92] Originally by: Yue Rubens Erm right mizz, you leave out parts of the convo too [ 2008.05.23 01:49:53 ] Redia > how much did he pay yas? [ 2008.05.23 01:50:01 ] Redia > and for how long ? [ 2008.05.23 01:50:10 ] Redia > if you dont mind i askin [ 2008.05.23 01:50:13 ] Drug Kito > 1b/week for not touching them and engaging their hostiles when around Yellow's choice of word was ... not well thought... but it is obvious he only wanted to get their price out of them. And here we have kito admitting. - To goodfellas: I deeply apologize if you had the impression we made a deal with you. It was never our intention, and havo broadcasting your transmission here wasn't meant against you either, see it as advertisement for your services. :P - To goons, what do you mean moon? Nice way to try to cover your butt :) And you are correct we do not know the exstent of what Soul has done cause as you and I know he says he is always playing "secret squirl" and he basically trying to do what he can to tear apart Anthrax seen as how he is not able to exstort isk from us anymore god knows how much he stole from the alliance and to boot sell his members very own towers to the highest bidder then after selling them take a character and rips off the pos's he sold. So noone knows what Soul did and at this point we could care less as he is gone and we are going to move forward :)
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 10:06:00 - [93] Originally by: Mizztres Death Edited by: Mizztres Death on 27/05/2008 09:49:37 Sorry fella your facts are still not correct as I was never in SMRI which is the holding corp for the alliance so how could I have possibly set and standings ..lol.. you're re1arded you just do not have a clue. Your whole argument has been washed down the toliet you have no clue what u r talking about and it is showing every time you post, so to save fome face please do not post anymore as it isnt doing you any good It's already been pointed out, in the OP and in several replies that Soulara stepped down and gave you the alliance and that very day you made your deal with GODS and set BOB blue. Originally by: Moon Kitten Edited by: Moon Kitten on 27/05/2008 09:43:59 If an alliance has someone set as hostile do they really have them set as hostile if they never shoot the hostiles? Good question. Very Confucian. As to the piece of the chat log MD chooses to highlight, yes, Redia asks how much it cost to hire them and when you had to pay them. Okay, and? Oh, I see it. YelowJack goes back and forth, keeping the conversation flowing while Redia relays information to other CEOs in the alliance until finally Endeva says "alright, I gtg, you know who to talk to" - as in, who to talk to IF you want to do something. No deal was struck between us and them. But a deal WAS struck between you and them - you won't be able to shift focus away from that by making a weak implication, typing 'lol' repeatedly and schmoozing like you usually do. Not today. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Yue Rubens Fnord Works DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 10:21:00 - [94] Originally by: Mizztres Death Nice way to try to cover your butt :) Well mizz... I don't have to, actually. I can dock at 6t3, can you? Now your reply would have to be "I can dock at dz6, can you?" - "Well, yes I can." I would cite what the tcf diplo wrote about you guys but it would be bad form so nah... ;) Mizz, you have to understand we didn't take your "peace offer" after what we've been through. And it doesn't really matter who was in charge of ad by then. How could we have trusted you? And how could we set you to blue when all of omist has you red? C'mon the fighting has been fun, let our campaign go I'm enjoying the pvp... aren't you? You're not admitting AD is in serious trouble because of us, are you? :)
Mizztres Death Gods Killing Machines ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.05.27 10:25:00 - [95] Well what I am seeing here hav is that you chose to place things out of order here. Fact 1, if I do not have my character in SMRI (which is holding corp) how am I suppose to set standings ? Fact 2, your CEO was asking at what cost will it be to hire them and when it had to be paid. Fact 3, I never set them blue and have no entention to do so. Fact 4, Is that you facts are all out of wack and now that they have been pointed out your trying to cover your azz. Fact 5, as it was so elegantly put my contacts in goons is why you all are bitter that you do not have standing with them which truly I had nothing to do with you not getting standings with anyone as it is not my job to get or not to get standings for you. Fact 6, is you keep yelling you have proof of what I am suppose to be doing but I havent seen it as of yet in any of your posts and also if we have them set to blue show me that we do prove to me thats what hte truth is cause when I look at them they are red http://www.geocities.com/yourazzismyne/gf.jpg So say as you will cause me myself i could care less and with that have a great day and I am done here as we know whats right and what ever you are trying to pull isnt going to work :)
Endeva Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.05.27 11:21:00 - [96] i think you DEFI4NT guys should also make a new deal like ANTX goons are history see where the future is or you will lose space in a future:P Eve needs changes asap
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 11:21:00 - [97] Originally by: Mizztres Death Well what I am seeing here hav is that you chose to place things out of order here. Fact 1, if I do not have my character in SMRI (which is holding corp) how am I suppose to set standings ? Maybe. SMRI handed the station in NZW over to you. They also handed the alliance over to you. If this is not the case, then in fact you did not personally set standings to BOB - Dr Battlesmith did when SMRI was given to him. Which version of the event is true is of no consequence - fact remains Soulara left and handed the alliance over, and that same day a deal was made in which ANTX set BOB blue in addition to paying 1b ISK per week for Goodfellas and their BOB wingmates to attack DEFY instead of ANTX when they roam through Tenerifis. You didn't think this thread was about you, did you? Read it again - ITT: Goon Pets Set BoB Blue! Originally by: Mizztres Death Fact 2, your CEO was asking at what cost will it be to hire them and when it had to be paid. A game of semantics, then? Person A tells Person B how he just patched Jim's roof. Person B says "How much could I hire you for? When are you due to get paid?" Person A answers - Person B now knows how much it cost Jim to get his roof patched and when Jim has to pay up. You're an American, Mizz; as a native English speaker, you understood that line as well as everybody else did. Originally by: Mizztres Death Fact 3, I never set them blue and have no entention to do so. Maybe. If not you, then Dr Battlesmith. The end result is the same, the detail of which one of you did it isn't important. Originally by: Mizztres Death Fact 4, Is that you facts are all out of wack and now that they have been pointed out your trying to cover your azz. False; from what? The only one trying to cover their ass here is you - DEFY has nothing to hide. Originally by: Mizztres Death Fact 5, as it was so elegantly put my contacts in goons is why you all are bitter that you do not have standing with them which truly I had nothing to do with you not getting standings with anyone as it is not my job to get or not to get standings for you. False. For weeks, you stayed in Soulara's good graces by promising him that your connections in TCF and UNL would ensure that DEFY would be unable to dock in TCF or UNL stations, that we would be effectively 'kicked out' of 0.0. At this time, DEFY can dock everywhere in Omist (every outpost is owned by either TCF or UNL), in addition to UNL's outpost in DZ6. So it was your job to ensure that we had no standings, and you failed. I'd go as far as to say that you had nothing to do with our being neutral to GoonSwarm - I'm more inclined to believe we're neutral because we have no immediate value to the Coalition's efforts. Originally by: Mizztres Death Fact 6, is you keep yelling you have proof of what I am suppose to be doing but I havent seen it as of yet in any of your posts and also if we have them set to blue show me that we do prove to me thats what hte truth is cause when I look at them they are red False again - as stated previously, this thread isn't about you. It's about ANTX setting BOB blue in order to hire GODS to save them from DEFY. Whether it was you or Dr Battlesmith doesn't matter - the end result is the same and the evidence is incontrovertible: video, chat log, corroborating posts by GODS co-CEOs themselves. No getting around it - it's true. Originally by: Mizztres Death So say as you will cause me myself i could care less and with that have a great day and I am done here as we know whats right and what ever you are trying to pull isnt going to work :) If your attitude were really so cavalier about the allegations and accompanying evidence presented in this thread, you wouldn't have posted so many times with your off-topic nonsense trying to take attention away from the main thrust of the OP: You (ANTX) hired GODS and in doing so set BoB blue. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 11:29:00 - [98] Originally by: Endeva i think you DEFI4NT guys should also make a new deal like ANTX goons are history see where the future is or you will lose space in a future:P I don't think GoonSwarm can be destroyed any more than BoB or RA can. The way the game currently works, it's unimaginable that a decisive enough blow could possibly be struck for one side or the other given the immense strength that both sides of the conflict possess in terms of ISK, materials for construction, experience of their respective upper echelons and sheer numbers. As to losing space, maybe. Maybe not. Losing space won't kill us any more than it killed BoB getting pushed back to Delve, or even Red Alliance so long ago getting removed from 0.0 altogether. We're not a strictly carebear alliance that absolutely depends on having 0.0 to supply us with ISK for our operations (though it does help ) Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Drug Kito Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.05.27 11:43:00 - [99] Originally by: Endeva i think you DEFI4NT guys should also make a new deal like ANTX yap. send isk to me
Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.05.27 11:51:00 - [100] Originally by: Dr BattleSmith You've added 1+1 up to 5000 :-) Anthrax Death has never been or had BoB or Goodfellas as blue, they are red, pure and simple. Anthrax Death has at no stage hired Goodfellas, this appears to be Defi4nt spin to cover their own tracks, if someone did, take it up with them. It is clear from the chatlog with CM (my alt) that my only concerns with us being blue to Defi4nt would be any connections Defi4nt has to BoB as no one around here wants that. It's also clear that I refer to the Goodfellas incident as a rumor and that the sources of it had been called into doubt. Nice try however your claims lack any real substance as they are based purely on a number of false assumptions. Anyone with questions can contact myself or Mizztres Death Dr BattleSmith http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law Dr BattleSmith
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 11:59:00 - [101] Originally by: Dr BattleSmith Originally by: Dr BattleSmith You've added 1+1 up to 5000 :-) Anthrax Death has never been or had BoB or Goodfellas as blue, they are red, pure and simple. Anthrax Death has at no stage hired Goodfellas, this appears to be Defi4nt spin to cover their own tracks, if someone did, take it up with them. It is clear from the chatlog with CM (my alt) that my only concerns with us being blue to Defi4nt would be any connections Defi4nt has to BoB as no one around here wants that. It's also clear that I refer to the Goodfellas incident as a rumor and that the sources of it had been called into doubt. Nice try however your claims lack any real substance as they are based purely on a number of false assumptions. Anyone with questions can contact myself or Mizztres Death Dr BattleSmith http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law Dr BattleSmith I don't get it. I don't see what your first post has to do with Godwin's Law, nor do I see the point of quoting yourself and linking to the wiki article about Godwin's Law. Was that meant to be an anonymous alt-post? Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Shaitan Katana Stellar Research Incorporated DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 12:21:00 - [102] Im new to the alliance, and the politics mean nothing to me, I'll let my guns do the talking. ______________________________________________________________________________________________ Only the dead have seen the end of war
Promu Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.05.27 12:41:00 - [103] i just find it funny how alot of this is based on us shooting support instead of the dread. kinda petty as any capable FC will take out support before the capital. it just makes sence. so dont get upset thinking we dont like you. WE LOVE YOU ALL Promu
Ehris Bok Stellar Research Incorporated DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 13:16:00 - [104] Edited by: Ehris Bok on 27/05/2008 13:16:32 Originally by: Promu i just find it funny how alot of this is based on us shooting support instead of the dread. kinda petty as any capable FC will take out support before the capital. it just makes sence. so dont get upset thinking we dont like you. WE LOVE YOU ALL Promu Just as an FYI we were not the support we (DEFY) were attacking the dread DEFY wasnt trying to support it in any way shape or form. Once more we were killing it not helping it.
Gizan Marines Of A New Dawn ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.05.27 13:55:00 - [105] By them saying they were attacking support ment they couldnt see a difference between red and red. which means were both set red. ive been in this alliance since close to the beginning. i have never seen bob blue. never once have i seen them blue. so i dont know where your getting that we set them blue. As far as everything thats happeneing? MD didnt set any standings nor can he. after hearing him talk to soulara, and reading all their chatlogs, i wouldnt doubt that someone paid goodfellows. Now as to who paid them? i wouldnt doubt it one bit that soulara paid them. he mad several offers for people to buy SMRI and the allaince, which many people refused. THen he was in talks with PXIS ceo and directors who ended up buying the allaince and corp from Soulara, who in turn stripped the pos's bear and took all the "corp tax" that was paid weeks before.
Barwinius Ars ex Discordia	Posted - 2008.05.27 14:06:00 - [106] Okay...
De1ta Dawn	Posted - 2008.05.27 15:05:00 - [107] Well from what I have seen here you are saying havhej is totally contradictable from what you have been saying in the original post. in other words you stories have really been making no sense from what I have seen. From the begining you said that MD was the one hired these guys then all the sudden you say "what do you think this is about you" to MD so yes you started off this thread saying that it was MD that hired these fellows and now your story has changed to the fact that it was someone else, so what I am seeing and alot of others are seeing is that you keep changing up your story to benifit yourself. Interesting that the pic shows goodfellows red to anthrax but yet you keep on insisting that it they are blue, oh but wait I know your next story will be well they changed it or whatever have you, what I would say to you is take a few cups of stfu and worry about your allaince instead of worring about others allainces or is it that you are getting your butts handed to you and you just are trying to divert it in another direction. Personally I think you're an idiot just for the simple fact that your story has gone in so many different directions it not even funny, first you blame this guy then all the sudden your story changes to another guy, hell I wish you would make up my mind already cause there are so many damnn stories out I do not think you truly know what the story is :P
ms kypp THE INSURGENCY DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 15:55:00 - [108] FYI handing ass on plate is generally how we see your kill board, and please no spill about that fact. we have also backed up everything we have said so again please no spill. what we havent done is smack talk which i'm sure you would agree local is much nicer without, so please stop your spill and if the fact that we were not handing your ass on a plate, you'd be fighting with your guns and not telling the coalition what you think they should hear. The facts are there with or without the belief. we need no help in this campaign, so why would we need the help of goodfella's? and passing the buck onto to soulara is amazing, he might be accountable for many things, but everyone knows he is loyal to the GOONS, always has been always will be, so next lie please ( even I do not beleive in that one) I would also like to point out we have never asked for the coalition to back us up in either campaign and would never want them to, we fight for what we think is right and in doing this makes us a better group, We have not asked for UNL TCF or GOONS to even concider taking time out to help us, the fact is we are proving we belong where we are and in doing so releaving GOONS of its liabilities. Throughout my time in anthrax all i heard was how GOONS will help UNL will back us, please step up to the plate and fight for your place among us in 0.0 we all have to.
Kurt Ambrose R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency	Posted - 2008.05.27 16:01:00 - [109] Hi ms o/
YelowJack THE INSURGENCY DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 18:38:00 - [110] Yellow's choice of word was ... not well thought... but it is obvious he only wanted to get their price out of them. And here we have kito admitting. Hey, English is not my native language :P yelow
Darl Sarin	Posted - 2008.05.27 19:24:00 - [111] anyone got any more donuts? .. im runnin out
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 20:43:00 - [112] Originally by: Gizan By them saying they were attacking support ment they couldnt see a difference between red and red. which means were both set red. ive been in this alliance since close to the beginning. i have never seen bob blue. never once have i seen them blue. so i dont know where your getting that we set them blue. As far as everything thats happeneing? MD didnt set any standings nor can he. after hearing him talk to soulara, and reading all their chatlogs, i wouldnt doubt that someone paid goodfellows. Now as to who paid them? i wouldnt doubt it one bit that soulara paid them. he mad several offers for people to buy SMRI and the allaince, which many people refused. THen he was in talks with PXIS ceo and directors who ended up buying the allaince and corp from Soulara, who in turn stripped the pos's bear and took all the "corp tax" that was paid weeks before. Okay first, line breaks. Second, I stopped reading at the bolded part. It's already been demonstrated that ANTX hired GODS and set BOB blue, to attack us instead of attaching ANTX when they roam through Tenerifis. So it wasn't a difference of "not knowing red from red". It doesn't benefit you anything to admit it, but that's the beauty of it - when undeniable proof is posted publicly, you don't have to admit it. This thread doesn't need ANTX confessions. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Mizztres Death Gods Killing Machines ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.05.27 20:43:00 - [113] Originally by: ms kypp FYI handing ass on plate is generally how we see your kill board, and please no spill about that fact. we have also backed up everything we have said so again please no spill. what we havent done is smack talk which i'm sure you would agree local is much nicer without, so please stop your spill and if the fact that we were not handing your ass on a plate, you'd be fighting with your guns and not telling the coalition what you think they should hear. The facts are there with or without the belief. we need no help in this campaign, so why would we need the help of goodfella's? and passing the buck onto to soulara is amazing, he might be accountable for many things, but everyone knows he is loyal to the GOONS, always has been always will be, so next lie please ( even I do not beleive in that one) I would also like to point out we have never asked for the coalition to back us up in either campaign and would never want them to, we fight for what we think is right and in doing this makes us a better group, We have not asked for UNL TCF or GOONS to even concider taking time out to help us, the fact is we are proving we belong where we are and in doing so releaving GOONS of its liabilities. Throughout my time in anthrax all i heard was how GOONS will help UNL will back us, please step up to the plate and fight for your place among us in 0.0 we all have to. Well all I have to say Kyyp is that you as well do not know what you are talking about when it comes to Soul. I have phone recordings of him stating that he wants you guys crush at no matter the cost and anytime you feel the need to listen to these recordings please feel free to contact me and i will let you listen to all but one, and the one I am talking about is not going to be heard by anyone but Goon fleet leaders as Soul has made some very bold statements about them and i do not want to be in the middle of any rumours that will effect us in anyway, so hense i will let them deal with it on their own terms :) And just so you know i have been trying to get to the bottom of the who hired who as far as goodfellows and BOB goes and so far this is what I have got out of them: http://www.geocities.com/yourazzismyne/dsoul1.jpg so take a look for yourself and then come back to me and tell me any different. You should know i am one to get ALL the facts before i really say anything and when it comes to Soulara I have my facts together and there is no denying it what so ever, so do please feel free to contact me in game and i will let you listen to soul spill his guts on the phone about what type of person he really is, just because he has you fooled i would love to be the one to pop that "he is and always will be loyal to Goons" bubble that you live in. And as far as passing the buck noone is passing the buck here I am just a firm believer in that if the shoe fits wear it... And the reason you have not asked for help from goons is just for the simple fact you are neutral to goons and as far as UNL is concerned you were red till tcf went to them and asked them to set you blue and out of respect for each other (unl,tcf) they set you so you make sure that you thank tcf for that :) But just so you know I can and will backup anything I say and if you look most of SMRI guys are moving to GKM just for the simple fact is "we are embarrassed to wear the SMRI tag" and that quote came from some of their players after seeing what soul has treated them and our alliance.
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 20:52:00 - [114] Originally by: De1ta Dawn stuff. Post with your main and show your corp ticker. Quote: all the sudden you say "what do you think this is about you I said the alliance was handed over to him and he made a deal with GODS. HE says the alliance was handed over to Dr Battlesmith. Okay - fine. Then Dr Battlesmith made the deal. Either way, ANTX made a deal for protection from BOB friends and set BOB blue in the process. THAT's what the thread is about - it's not about Soulara, or Mizztres Death, or even GODS. It's about "ITT: Goon Pets Set BOB Blue!" I haven't said "in fact, it wasn't MD who hired them." MD has said that. I have said we don't care who did the hiring, what matteres is the hiring was done. What pic shows Goodfellas red to ANTX? We're not in ANTX, we have no pictures or videos which would reflect ANTX's standings toward anybody. The video shows OUR standings, which has G00dfellas and BOB both red on the overview. Your reading as as bad as your writing. Quote: or is it that you are getting your butts handed to you I already linked our killboard - ANTX has nothing for us as far as PvP is concerned. And since, despite Gizan's claim a couple pages ago, our posted losses match ANTX's posted kills, it's not a matter of us not posting loss mails. It's just a matter of ANTX sucking at PvP. Quote: Personally I think you're an idiot just for the simple fact that your story has gone in so many different directions No matter how many times you and Mizztres Death SAY that, it's not going to make it true. From post one, this thread has been about Goon Pets Set BOB Blue. The story hasn't changed once. Are you an MD alt? Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Gizan Marines Of A New Dawn ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.05.27 21:02:00 - [115] Edited by: Gizan on 27/05/2008 21:02:10 well you know you can keep saying it over and over, but they have never been blue. and as you just stated that you dont have picture of our standings with bob, i can show you screenshots of stuff where bob is still red. bob has always been red and u have no proof that they are blue. and ill say this, if you think im MD's alt then it must be true.
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 21:03:00 - [116] Originally by: Mizztres Death Originally by: ms kypp FYI handing ass on plate is generally how we see your kill board, and please no spill about that fact. we have also backed up everything we have said so again please no spill. what we havent done is smack talk which i'm sure you would agree local is much nicer without, so please stop your spill and if the fact that we were not handing your ass on a plate, you'd be fighting with your guns and not telling the coalition what you think they should hear. The facts are there with or without the belief. we need no help in this campaign, so why would we need the help of goodfella's? and passing the buck onto to soulara is amazing, he might be accountable for many things, but everyone knows he is loyal to the GOONS, always has been always will be, so next lie please ( even I do not beleive in that one) I would also like to point out we have never asked for the coalition to back us up in either campaign and would never want them to, we fight for what we think is right and in doing this makes us a better group, We have not asked for UNL TCF or GOONS to even concider taking time out to help us, the fact is we are proving we belong where we are and in doing so releaving GOONS of its liabilities. Throughout my time in anthrax all i heard was how GOONS will help UNL will back us, please step up to the plate and fight for your place among us in 0.0 we all have to. Well all I have to say Kyyp is that you as well do not know what you are talking about when it comes to Soul. I have phone recordings of him stating that he wants you guys crush at no matter the cost Irrelevant. Ms Kypp notes Soulara's loyalty to GoonSwarm - that has nothing to do with his feelings toward us. We KNOW he hates us, but we're not GoonSwarm, are we? Originally by: mizztres death And just so you know i have been trying to get to the bottom of the who hired who as far as goodfellows and BOB goes and so far this is what I have got out of them: http://www.geocities.com/yourazzismyne/dsoul1.jpg so take a look for yourself and then come back to me and tell me any different. http://www.geocities.com/yourazzismyne/dsoul1.jpg Looks like whichever of you it was that contracted them didn't pay up. That, however, and the fact that you set them red after the fact to take that picture does not prove that you or ANTX is innocent. "Oh look, we're red NOW!" does not equal "Oh look, we were never blue!" Originally by: mizztres death You should know i am one to get ALL the facts before i really say anything and when it comes to Soulara I have my facts together and there is no denying it what so ever, so do please feel free to contact me in game and i will let you listen to soul spill his guts on the phone about what type of person he really is, just because he has you fooled i would love to be the one to pop that "he is and always will be loyal to Goons" bubble that you live in. Thread is about ANTX, not Soulara - Soulara was mentioned by ms kypp only because you threw his name out as the culprit. We do not believe that possibility as his loyalty to GoonSwarm has been indefatigable up to this point and we've seen nothing to suggest otherwise, beyond him realizing that he'd built a weak alliance and deciding to "take the money and run" He didn't even get a mothership out of it... TT did it better imo. Originally by: mizztres death The rest of the post is more of the same - you talking about Soulara and SMRI and how or why UNL sets standings when the thread is about you (ANTX) hiring BoB friends and setting BoB blue in the process. Like I told Gizan, though - we don't need you to confess. The proof is in the pudding, and the pudding is all on page 1. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Faekurias Cash Money Brothers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.27 21:06:00 - [117] wow, you guys REALLY can post. I'm quite amazed. goes for more popcorn Sig locked, abuse of use - for more information mail [email protected]
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 21:19:00 - [118] Originally by: Faekurias wow, you guys REALLY can post. I'm quite amazed. goes for more popcorn Thank you. We've been practicing. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Mizztres Death Gods Killing Machines ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.05.27 21:38:00 - [119] Edited by: Mizztres Death on 27/05/2008 21:46:21 Edited by: Mizztres Death on 27/05/2008 21:45:24 Edited by: Mizztres Death on 27/05/2008 21:39:01 Edited by: Mizztres Death on 27/05/2008 21:38:21 Well seen as talking to you is like talking to a brick wall this will be my last post here. Hav i truly have to say you have no proof of anything all you have is your words and to me and others they mean nothing as I have all the facts and I do not have to prove a damnn thing to you, if you read what you have been typing this whole time you will see that you have been all over the place with your lies. In the begining you stated I hired them then all the sudden battlesmith hired them and I am sure next if there was another name thrown out there you would have that name in there as well. I do not have nothing to provwe to you or anyone but when my word is questioned i will post and make sure that my word is gospel. I have 2 hours of phone calls recorded with soulara on the phone and if you need to I will let you listen to them as well as you know soals voice and so does alot of others :) so the burden of proof is not on us but on you. So do what you will we know the truth and so do the ones that HAVE heard the phone call recordings but then again if you did here them you still wouldnt admit that you were wrong so there is no reason to even go into it with you, soul did alot of crappy things before he left and thats pretty much the bottom line. And you know what kills me is that you say the only reason he left was for the simple fact that he built a crappy alliance but umm werent you in it and most of your members in Defaint now? lol..so I guess we ar just 2 crappy alliances trying to make our way in the big world of eve. With that I bid you good day and when you actually have some proof of what you speak of please present it. you know like screen shots of us having them blue any transactions of isk trading hands by anyone in Anthrax you know solid proof cause from what I have seen here is nothing more than you talking in circles and not reading what you have posted over the past 4 pages you know stuff like that. You know for as smart as you think you truly are you are pretty damnn dumb and I mean that in no way shape or form of disrespect but c-mon guy look at yourtself you dug a hole you cannot get out of here and that IMHO is pretty sad especially from someone as yourself. best thing to do here is just to let things go i know you are bitter cause we let you go before T5K but hey get over it whats done is done move on. And Ms Kyyp my offer still stands for you as i have really never had a problem with you so please feel free to contact me in game if you would like to hear the truth on what has transpired :) Quote: how long did that take to think up. UNL have been blue for insu since we were formed so again please try something new. This is nothing to do with our standings. this is to do with anthrax, our standings we earn without the lie's. the facts are here, the facts have always been here, you lie miztress death and when u cant get anything more from ur lie's u turn all nasty with your smack talk. i need not listen to ur conversations, i'm not interested and had u hold anything for goons that information u have been holding from them would have gone to them immediatly, but u havent until it benefits u. try surviving for yourself and not of the backs of everyone around you. your spill falls of death ear's I ask again who exactly do u back? your printed screen really holds nothing for me. We haven't had to use the coalition for our ends. can u say the same? Spin them how you like hows no bearing on things at this point and time anyway, we all know what the truth is and whether or not you can admit it you do as well so with that being said have a nice day and fly safe :)
ms kypp THE INSURGENCY DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 21:38:00 - [120] Well all I have to say Kyyp is that you as well do not know what you are talking about when it comes to Soul. I have phone recordings of him stating that he wants you guys crush at no matter the cost and anytime you feel the need to listen to these recordings please feel free to contact me and i will let you listen to all but one, and the one I am talking about is not going to be heard by anyone but Goon fleet leaders as Soul has made some very bold statements about them and i do not want to be in the middle of any rumours that will effect us in anyway, so hense i will let them deal with it on their own terms :) And just so you know i have been trying to get to the bottom of the who hired who as far as goodfellows and BOB goes and so far this is what I have got out of them: http://www.geocities.com/yourazzismyne/dsoul1.jpg so take a look for yourself and then come back to me and tell me any different. You should know i am one to get ALL the facts before i really say anything and when it comes to Soulara I have my facts together and there is no denying it what so ever, so do please feel free to contact me in game and i will let you listen to soul spill his guts on the phone about what type of person he really is, just because he has you fooled i would love to be the one to pop that "he is and always will be loyal to Goons" bubble that you live in. And as far as passing the buck noone is passing the buck here I am just a firm believer in that if the shoe fits wear it... And the reason you have not asked for help from goons is just for the simple fact you are neutral to goons and as far as UNL is concerned you were red till tcf went to them and asked them to set you blue and out of respect for each other (unl,tcf) they set you so you make sure that you thank tcf for that :) But just so you know I can and will backup anything I say and if you look most of SMRI guys are moving to GKM just for the simple fact is "we are embarrassed to wear the SMRI tag" and that quote came from some of their players after seeing what soul has treated them and our alliance. wow how long did that take to think up. UNL have been blue for insu since we were formed so again please try something new. This is nothing to do with our standings. this is to do with anthrax, our standings we earn without the lie's. the facts are here, the facts have always been here, you lie miztress death and when u cant get anything more from ur lie's u turn all nasty with your smack talk. i need not listen to ur conversations, i'm not interested and had u hold anything for goons that information u have been holding from them would have gone to them immediatly, but u havent until it benefits u. try surviving for yourself and not of the backs of everyone around you. your spill falls of death ear's I ask again who exactly do u back? your printed screen really holds nothing for me. We haven't had to use the coalition for our ends. can u say the same?
Courtney Brown The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 21:48:00 - [121] at ANTX and Mizz Courtney Brown
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 21:55:00 - [122] Originally by: Mizztres Death Well seen as talking to you is liking talking to is talking to a brick wall this will be my last post here. kk Originally by: Mizztres Death Hav i truly have to say you have no prrof of anything all you have is your words and to me and others they mean nothing as I have all the facts and I do not have to prove a damnn thing to you, if you read what you have been typing this whole time you will see that you have been all over the place with your lies. There you go saying that again. I've stayed on-topic the entire thread: ANTX hired BoB friends and set BOB blue in the process. Okay, so you've set them back red to take a screenshot of it. And? Doesn't matter. You keep saying we have no proof of anything - the proof is on page 1 in the form of a video, chat logs, and confirmation posts in this same thread from Endeva and Drug Kito themselves. You (ANTX) hired them to protect you from us. We don't need you to prove anything to us, nor do we need you to confess - we've proven everything that needs to be proven already. Originally by: Mizztres Death In the begining you stated I hired them then all the sudden battlesmith hired them and I am sure next if there was another name thrown out there you would have that name in there as well. YOU suggested that it wasn't you, but instead Dr Battlesmith in one of YOUR posts - not us. We have merely accepted the possibility that it wasn't you yourself who did it. We have also stated, more than three times, that it doesn't matter which one of you did it - fact is, ANTX set BoB blue. It doesn't matter if you try to cloud the issue by swearing up and down that YOU didn't do it. This thread isn't about Mizztres Death. It's about Goon Pets Set BoB Blue. Originally by: Mizztres Death I do not have nothing to provwe to you or anyone but when my word is questioned i will post and make sure that my word is gospel. It's not gospel, but like we said... we don't need your confession. If there was a court of EVE, video evidence, chat recordings and direct testimony would've convicted the ANTX leadership just fine. Quote: I have 2 hours of phone calls recorded with soulara on the phone and if you need to I will let you listen to them as well as you know soals voice and so does alot of others :) so the burden of proof is not on us but on you. There you go with "I have soulara phone calls on tape" again. That has nothing to do with ANTX setting BOB blue. Just as every time you've posted before this, the rest of the thread is almost completely off-topic. You keep copy/pasting "when you have proof post it." Proof is posted on page one in the forum of video and chat logs. Endeva and Drug Kito corroborate through posts in this thread. You copy/paste the bit about "you thing your smart but your dumb." You copy/paste the part about "your bitter cause T5K", but ANTX didn't let us go - we left (the chat log with Soulara and Sworn Mistress's alt when Soulara convo'd me to find out WHY we left was pretty funny, but it's off-topic so I won't post any of it). You say you never had a problem with our Executrix, when in fact you did. It sounds good, it even looks good when you put a :) at the end of it, but it doesn't really change anything. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Ehris Bok Stellar Research Incorporated DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 22:06:00 - [123] loyalty Definition: noun 1.Faithfulness or devotion to a person, a cause, obligations, or duties: allegiance, constancy, faithfulness, fealty, fidelity, steadfastness. See continue/stop/pause, obligation. 2.The condition of being closely tied to another by affection or faith. affection, attachment, devotion ANTX hired BoB friends and set BOB blue in the process this is NOT loyalty to the Coalition (goons / RA / TCF / UNL) it is : disloyalty, treachery, undependability, unfaithfulness
FakkJoo Saerpolisen	Posted - 2008.05.27 22:13:00 - [124] I approve of this thread, therefor I post with my alt.
club terror	Posted - 2008.05.27 23:07:00 - [125] Edited by: club terror on 27/05/2008 23:07:58 You keep saying that your video proves that Anthrax had set BOB and co blue i do not see that in the video not at all and from what I have seen here is that Havohej has stated over and over again that Anthrax has set BOB and co just to try to cause Anthrax probelms now being that I am an outsider here and read each post carefully and look at the video and looked at the screen shots and seems to me that MD has proved his point you Defi4nt havent. Now I know you are going to flame me and ask if I am an alt cause I am looking from the outside in it looks as you Havohej really have no case as your prove is very very bland and not very clear and let me point out why. First of all your video only shows you getting your buts kicked it doesnt show anything but that also I have been on their (goodfellows) k/b's and i see that Anthrax has lost just as many ships if not more then you have to goodfellows. Second of all you posted in your very first post that MD took over leadership hense he hired and payed them to kill you now you are going back on that and saying you didnt say that in which you most certainly did . Go re-read it Third MD has offered up more than he actually had to , to prove to you that Anthrax and party had nothing to do with what you are charging them with and yet you still try to say they have done things they have more than proved to me they havent done and yet you still go on about it. If you want my opinion on it from what it looks like is all you are trying to do is use the coalition to help you in trying to take them out and it is quite apparnet that it is not working. But I do have to give you credit you're very persistant in trying to use the coalition to help you but as you or your lab rat puts it "we have not asked for help to take Anthrax out" but in all actuality isnt that what you are doing here ? But let me answer that for you cause I know what you are going to say "no we are not using the coalition to take them out" then my friend what is really the point of this thread if it is not what you are trying to do cause all I hear you saying is Anthrax set BOB and co blue. So if that is not asking for help what is it then ? sure sounds like a yell for help to me knowing that goons,UNL and tcf are anti bob and Co anyway. First in your post you posted MD took over the allaince then MD set BOB and Co blue then when he shows his proof you change your story to ok well maybe he didint maybe Battlesmith did it those are your words not anyone else's MD didnt accuse Battlesmith of anything in these posts as you say he did. So basically if you are not yelling from help from the coalition whats your point here ? Also would like to know the definition of a pet/citizen, I do not think that Anthrax is either seen as how they are not renting space from anyone the space they have is theirs not UNL's not tfc's or goons so your terms are totally differnt then the games hmm go figure that. Just because MD is good at talking with guys and gaining their respect and trust doesnt make him a terrible person it just basically makes him a good business man to which you really apparently have no knowlage about. From what I can see here is that MD gives respect and gets its in return and apparently you seem to have a major problem with that. All I can suggest here is learn the politics of the game and maybe one day you may grow up to maybe gets some respect, cause doing things this way I can be assured you have no respect in game otherwise you wouldnt be complaining about whats going on in the game on a public forum trying to get help anyway you can. anyone wiith half a brain could see exactly what you are trying to do and seen as how you been called on it you throw in twists and turns. Cheers mate,, flame away cause I know your going too as you cannot resist :) Oh and by the way I am one of your member alts
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 23:11:00 - [126] Post with your main. I'm not going to read a post that long without a corp ticker, as it's only going to get cleansed by the mods anyway. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Soulara	Posted - 2008.05.27 23:32:00 - [127] Originally by: ms kypp FYI handing ass on plate is generally how we see your kill board, and please no spill about that fact. we have also backed up everything we have said so again please no spill. what we havent done is smack talk which i'm sure you would agree local is much nicer without, so please stop your spill and if the fact that we were not handing your ass on a plate, you'd be fighting with your guns and not telling the coalition what you think they should hear. The facts are there with or without the belief. we need no help in this campaign, so why would we need the help of goodfella's? and passing the buck onto to soulara is amazing, he might be accountable for many things, but everyone knows he is loyal to the GOONS, always has been always will be, so next lie please ( even I do not beleive in that one) I would also like to point out we have never asked for the coalition to back us up in either campaign and would never want them to, we fight for what we think is right and in doing this makes us a better group, We have not asked for UNL TCF or GOONS to even concider taking time out to help us, the fact is we are proving we belong where we are and in doing so releaving GOONS of its liabilities. Throughout my time in anthrax all i heard was how GOONS will help UNL will back us, please step up to the plate and fight for your place among us in 0.0 we all have to. Ok as much as myself and Ms Kypp don't always get along, at least there is one out there that does know me well as to where my loyalty is. Pretty bad when your ex-alliance's problem alliance knows you better then your own. However, yes I sold off my corp and the alliance ( SMRI - ANTHRAX DEATH ) Yes, I have left them behind for there are new things opening up with upcoming patches. However, yes, it was brought to my attention someone had soldout-paying a Bob pet as such for protection. I was totaly lost for words and shocked. So, I thought about it for days. I, of bad health, play as much asi can - not 23/7 as I used to. Now finding out who was a little harder then normal, so I just said Oh well, I built an alliance and it seems unstable. Too much drama in the background, things behind the scenes that don't add up. The whole defi4nt VS anthrax death thing has gone a little far which makes both a liability to the coalition, force, and friendlies. And I wasn't going to be a part of any alliance that I thought had been paying anything to BoB or one of its pets, other than a bullet.
Faekurias Cash Money Brothers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.27 23:34:00 - [128] Not to burst any bubbles here, but I quite doubt that they/you would be a liability to the coalition in any way. Sig locked, abuse of use - for more information mail [email protected]
posh biatch posh biatch Corp	Posted - 2008.05.27 23:41:00 - [129] Originally by: club terror Edited by: club terror on 27/05/2008 23:07:58 Just because MD is good at talking with guys and gaining their respect and trust doesnt make him a terrible person it just basically makes him a good business man to which you really apparently have no knowlage about. From what I can see here is that MD gives respect and gets its in return and apparently you seem to have a major problem with that. All I can suggest here is learn the politics of the game and maybe one day you may grow up to maybe gets some respect, cause doing things this way I can be assured you have no respect in game otherwise you wouldnt be complaining about whats going on in the game on a public forum trying to get help anyway you can. anyone wiith half a brain could see exactly what you are trying to do and seen as how you been called on it you throw in twists and turns. Cheers mate,, flame away cause I know your going too as you cannot resist :) Oh and by the way I am one of your member alts hmm outside one of your alts. wow even i can see the score here. but MD as you like to call her is amazing with her words, ******s and such yes respect where it is due name calling has always worked well in the play ground. Respect is earn't and gaining space through other peoples efforts is equally as such, i beleive UNL had to give u some space to keep you from moaning, as you were goons pets. The defence for Defi4nt ( whats with the 4) the fact they have logs that look equally interesting and the fact that i havent seen anyone actually deny but send everyone around the houses, it was soulara ( who ever u are) and no it wasnt me and i have proof and recorded phone calls wow trust worthy u are Miztress death.... At least we know u cant be trusted with phone calls etc..... recording phone calls lmao Compulsive disorder perhaps? i'm glad i need nothing from you and as for standings, lol who actually cares. carry on the campaign and lets see who has the upper hand, keeping the coalition doing there job keeping us free from bob, if u cannot defend what u have then u have no rights to hold it hey!!!!! dont u think. and please Miz no more "ok last post on this last post" well then dont post. But i have to say havohej weird name but great read. go coalition \o/ also club terror u cant be reading this right or else not at all there are logs may i suggest u re-read them...then come back to us for some more flame......
ms kypp THE INSURGENCY DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 23:51:00 - [130] Originally by: Soulara Originally by: ms kypp FYI handing ass on plate is generally how we see your kill board, and please no spill about that fact. we have also backed up everything we have said so again please no spill. what we havent done is smack talk which i'm sure you would agree local is much nicer without, so please stop your spill and if the fact that we were not handing your ass on a plate, you'd be fighting with your guns and not telling the coalition what you think they should hear. The facts are there with or without the belief. we need no help in this campaign, so why would we need the help of goodfella's? and passing the buck onto to soulara is amazing, he might be accountable for many things, but everyone knows he is loyal to the GOONS, always has been always will be, so next lie please ( even I do not beleive in that one) I would also like to point out we have never asked for the coalition to back us up in either campaign and would never want them to, we fight for what we think is right and in doing this makes us a better group, We have not asked for UNL TCF or GOONS to even concider taking time out to help us, the fact is we are proving we belong where we are and in doing so releaving GOONS of its liabilities. Throughout my time in anthrax all i heard was how GOONS will help UNL will back us, please step up to the plate and fight for your place among us in 0.0 we all have to. Ok as much as myself and Ms Kypp don't always get along, at least there is one out there that does know me well as to where my loyalty is. Pretty bad when your ex-alliance's problem alliance knows you better then your own. However, yes I sold off my corp and the alliance ( SMRI - ANTHRAX DEATH ) Yes, I have left them behind for there are new things opening up with upcoming patches. However, yes, it was brought to my attention someone had soldout-paying a Bob pet as such for protection. I was totaly lost for words and shocked. So, I thought about it for days. I, of bad health, play as much asi can - not 23/7 as I used to. Now finding out who was a little harder then normal, so I just said Oh well, I built an alliance and it seems unstable. Too much drama in the background, things behind the scenes that don't add up. The whole defi4nt VS anthrax death thing has gone a little far which makes both a liability to the coalition, force, and friendlies. And I wasn't going to be a part of any alliance that I thought had been paying anything to BoB or one of its pets, other than a bullet. enough said!!!!! and no we didn't always see eye to eye but even i agree soul was always united with GOONS. and i'll carry on in my little bubble for that thank you. You work for your own ends and for that you are guilty miztress death. the coalition standings were from soulara and sworn they had them already in place because they had earnt them not because he could type well...... respect where it is due. not where it isant. earn it !!!!
jedijed The Subtle Knife ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.05.27 23:58:00 - [131] I will be the first to admit when i first came to NZW i was loosin ships like rubberbands I would engae peep expecting some ****in help when 20 blues is in local but never got any ffs But in the last 2 weeks weve gotten some good pilots to lead us in fleets to kick yous guys azses While were not there yet we will soon be on top! BTW i loved to see you guys runnin from me an my m8 in KR8 when u entered strutcure one at a time Was wondering if yous was gonna eva pop me's. T5K FTW shoot me cos im bait :)
Courtney Brown The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.28 00:16:00 - [132] Give Jedijed a cause no one EVER ran from you mate. So come with some relavent info. Courtney Brown
ms kypp THE INSURGENCY DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.28 00:18:00 - [133] Originally by: jedijed I will be the first to admit when i first came to NZW i was loosin ships like rubberbands I would engae peep expecting some ****in help when 20 blues is in local but never got any ffs But in the last 2 weeks weve gotten some good pilots to lead us in fleets to kick yous guys azses While were not there yet we will soon be on top! BTW i loved to see you guys runnin from me an my m8 in KR8 when u entered strutcure one at a time Was wondering if yous was gonna eva pop me's. T5K FTW and the point remains ur friends helped u every step of the way be it red or blue hey. T5K ftw what happened to the rest of the allaince or you now a one man band, EPIC FAIL!!! again lol
theBEANman The Maddness	Posted - 2008.05.28 01:44:00 - [134] OMG YOU GUYS ARE STILL CAUSING DRAMA I can personaly tell you that the guys that make up defiant have been a bunch of cryng drama queans since they where in venom, I know first hand from when i was venom diplo that most of these guys from defi4nt and anthrax thrive on this kind of drama. and no matter who your napped with or who's side your on, this kinda crap is gonna happen, so as a warning to you other alliance's IF YOU DONT WANT THE DRAMA kick these alliance back to empire. as no matter what they will find some way to start it. and trust me the isk isnt worth the agrovation.
Courtney Brown The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.28 01:49:00 - [135] Well I guess all the DRAMA BOMBS started when YOU were Venom Diplo. Hmmmmmm is it what you would call "The Apple doesn't fall to far from the &^%$#@$ tree?" Courtney Brown
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.28 01:54:00 - [136] Originally by: theBEANman OMG YOU GUYS ARE STILL CAUSING DRAMA I can personaly tell you that the guys that make up defiant have been a bunch of cryng drama queans since they where in venom, I know first hand from when i was venom diplo that most of these guys from defi4nt and anthrax thrive on this kind of drama. and no matter who your napped with or who's side your on, this kinda crap is gonna happen, so as a warning to you other alliance's IF YOU DONT WANT THE DRAMA kick these alliance back to empire. as no matter what they will find some way to start it. and trust me the isk isnt worth the agrovation. ITT: ex-VENOM diplo is bitter about getting kicked out of 0.0. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
theBEANman The Maddness	Posted - 2008.05.28 02:15:00 - [137] maby so but guys cant deny being drama queans you where the down fall of venom and now anthrax. Who's next??
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.28 02:37:00 - [138] idk my bff Jill? Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Yahfree Baptism oF Fire Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.05.28 04:16:00 - [139] I think we should all hold hands and sing the Hello Kitty song
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.28 04:31:00 - [140] I don't know the words. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Danari Viper Squad Souls of Vengeance	Posted - 2008.05.28 04:50:00 - [141] There has got to be an icd9 code for what would cause someone to write a post of such utter insignificance in such detail.
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.28 04:54:00 - [142] Originally by: Danari There has got to be an icd9 code for what would cause someone to write a post of such utter insignificance in such detail. I'm sorry every thread couldn't be about Triumvirate. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Tenebrys Havoc Violence and Chaos R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.28 05:01:00 - [143] Hey, well-written southern micro-alliance standings drama beats a horde of goons and goon-hatas kicking "FAIL" slogans at each other, any day.
Ehris Bok Stellar Research Incorporated DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.28 05:03:00 - [144] Beer any one ? Ehris opens 1 for him self
ms kypp THE INSURGENCY DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.28 09:08:00 - [145] Originally by: theBEANman OMG YOU GUYS ARE STILL CAUSING DRAMA I can personaly tell you that the guys that make up defiant have been a bunch of cryng drama queans since they where in venom, I know first hand from when i was venom diplo that most of these guys from defi4nt and anthrax thrive on this kind of drama. and no matter who your napped with or who's side your on, this kinda crap is gonna happen, so as a warning to you other alliance's IF YOU DONT WANT THE DRAMA kick these alliance back to empire. as no matter what they will find some way to start it. and trust me the isk isnt worth the agrovation. oh bless you beanman respect where its due we cant take all the thanks for venom's demise comeon i think credit where its due you did a very good job of losing the allaince respect hence you are back in empire. dont be sore we got out because we had to. venom was falling but had u have listened to the drama as u put it perhaps u would still be here, your not so that says it all....listen to ur allaince because without them your nothing..oh but your no longer allaince head. trust him he is a very bad loser. but we learn't alot from you, and for that lesson thank you. :)
Faekurias Cash Money Brothers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.28 09:14:00 - [146] Edited by: Faekurias on 28/05/2008 09:16:04 This is probably the best thread containing some of the best posts I've seen for a long time, maybe so far this year. Srsly. Kepp going please. Originally by: Ehris Bok Beer any one ? Ehris opens 1 for him self I'll join in with you there but with some Jack and Coke. Sig locked, abuse of use - for more information mail [email protected]
Kapedward	Posted - 2008.05.28 14:38:00 - [147] This thread wont last much longer as tcf has just told Defiant to set NAP with ANTX, yet Defiant still continues to sit in antx space.
posh biatch posh biatch Corp	Posted - 2008.05.28 15:20:00 - [148] Originally by: Kapedward This thread wont last much longer as tcf has just told Defiant to set NAP with ANTX, yet Defiant still continues to sit in antx space. lol well we knew someone had to sort it. GOONS weren;t interested and neither were UNL lol, so the last was TCF someone had to. but what i wanna know is do you always expect to defend your area with the coailition because had u been winning we both know the coailtion wouldn't have been dragged into this and that is why GOONS and UNL decided to watch from the side lines and see how much of a problem having you around is. lol DEFI4NT remove yourselves from GOON space please you are no longer needed we have all seen the weaker side lol. have a nice day"!!!!!
Mizztres Death Gods Killing Machines ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.05.28 18:30:00 - [149] How about now that all this has pretty much ended how about we move on and leave things alone.. Now to put an end to all the hash and trash that i am sure is about to come in this thread. I have a good relationship with TCF we worked out the problems and everything is over and done with there are suppose to be no more issues, so Anthrax will let this be as i have given my word to TCF that our guys will not be creating any problems with any TCF residents this includes Defi4nt. We also have a mail out at this point and time that anyone caught talking trash to them that there will be fines handed out and also posibly kicked from the alliance. Our alliance is going to move forward and hopefully they can do the same as we have ridden some of the problems that has been some what building within. We are letting go of SMRI as the holding corp of Anthrax as it has ties to certain people that we as a whole do not want to be part of anymore.. I know there has been some issues and for one I am glad to see them at an end as i am tired of typing :) And just so everyone knows as well is that in my book I have gone over things and i do not think that anyone has hired anyone to do any fighting with others as far as this war that was going on is concerned, i was one have never seen BOB and Co ever set to blue within Anthrax and I am pretty sure the same goes for Defi4nt as I truly believe this was purly propaganda that was put out to try to divert things from where they really should be.. this of course being my humble opinion. I know for a fact that there has been some things said on both sides of the fence here and hopefully we can now put everything to rest and move on with out the hash and trash any longer as there will be no more from Anthrax as the word has been put out.. With that i bid you all a good day and fly safe :)
Dramaticus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.28 18:37:00 - [150] huh Please don't use RL pictuers of players in Sig without permission. - WeatherMan
Moon Kitten GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.05.28 18:41:00 - [151] Great thread or greatest thread?
xBlood Anoint	Posted - 2008.05.28 21:05:00 - [152] This thread is like a bunch of ******s playing poker in the dark. Anoint Recruitment
Ehris Bok Stellar Research Incorporated DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.28 23:23:00 - [153] :)
KIZERIAN SKORPION CORP Te-Ka	Posted - 2008.05.28 23:50:00 - [154] Oh My Big Hugs to my Homeees Kiz
ms kypp THE INSURGENCY DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.29 11:13:00 - [155] ummm correct me if i'm wrong but this thread was about Anthrax hiring GF's not our personal standings, so at what point did we imply we had not beleived you had. standings have nothing to do with the thread, the thread is about Fighting against BOB while you pay them to defend you. or was i wrong and this whole post has been about our standings? hello kizer,
xBlood Anoint	Posted - 2008.05.29 11:40:00 - [156] This thread was far more interesting when me and lucus were ****ting it up Anoint Recruitment
Redia	Posted - 2008.05.31 11:28:00 - [157] Mizztres death may i remind you that your resolved problem is not with tcf, your problem is with us and you will make the fatel mistake of messing up the third time im sure, and from that we will be waiting trust me, and what i mean by that is your luck has run out dude, pay us the isk you stole from us and leave anthrax and we can start thinking about getting back to normal,or have you spent it on the goodfellas/bob? this little nap of yours .. you better make the most of it, Red :)
Kapedward School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.06.01 03:29:00 - [158] Originally by: Havohej Post with your main and show your corp ticker. come on red
Mizztres Death Gods Killing Machines ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.06.03 11:16:00 - [159] Originally by: Redia Mizztres death may i remind you that your resolved problem is not with tcf, your problem is with us and you will make the fatel mistake of messing up the third time im sure, and from that we will be waiting trust me, and what i mean by that is your luck has run out dude, pay us the isk you stole from us and leave anthrax and we can start thinking about getting back to normal,or have you spent it on the goodfellas/bob? this little nap of yours .. you better make the most of it, Red :) Oh please explain to me what isk I got from you , I got nothing from you and if you are talking about the isk you put into C9 you are not the only one that donated to that cause as i recall I put out a billion of my own isk on that deal. So as far as "your" isk you are talking about if you feel that I owe it too you then you are pretty much sol cause you never gave me nothing and if you did please show me that you gave it to me :) oh wait you cant cause it never happened, I know your upset cause you think that it was I that got you kicked from the alliance but again you are wrong I had nothing to do with it and thats the bottom line. As far as leaving the alliance, that will not be happening either as we have turned this alliance around from where it was when soul was here. As you and everyone knows when soul got a wild hair up his azz he went on a kicking spree and let me fill you in on something, you got kicked by soul just for the simple fact that soul blamed FNORD for the C9 debocale and seen as how you brought them into the alliance you were kicked for it.. And as far as the GF thing as you put it, as it has been proven time and time again I had nothing to do with them and never will. And as far as my "luck running out" its not a matter of luck its just that I have my facts together and my proof of what has transpired with this whole thing. Un-like most I do my research and i dig if digging is required. With that have a great day
Tzar'rim	Posted - 2008.06.03 11:26:00 - [160] ITT; people who are being used and milked and keep coming back for more.
sakana North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.06.03 11:34:00 - [161] I read all of the OP and still have no idea what happened... cept for :drama:

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