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Inquisitor Ares The Ministry of Death	Posted - 2008.05.31 02:29:00 - [1] Yes, yes it is: http://digg.com/pc_games/Funcom_Tells_Guild_to_Stop_Killing_People_in_Groups -------------------- Do not bother me with useless comments.
Amastat Omegatech	Posted - 2008.05.31 03:32:00 - [2] Glad I didn't get the game, tons of hype about it - look what it came to. ____________________ "All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.05.31 03:32:00 - [3] If this is even remotely true, this gets a huge ROFL from me. 1\|2\|3\|4\|5
Havok Dryke Golden Gavel Enterprises The Cooperative	Posted - 2008.05.31 04:28:00 - [4] Edited by: Havok Dryke on 31/05/2008 04:28:09 Holy crap, corruption already? Methinks I just won a lot of ISK in bets. Edit: That sort of thing is low, and suppressing the information of the forums is even worse. For shame. --- Kaboom: The process by which large objects are broken down into many small objects. Originally by: Alz Shado Chribba doesn't mine Veldspar -- the ore offers itself to him in tribute.
Illrae Pyou	Posted - 2008.05.31 04:33:00 - [5] lol, moderation.
F'nog Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2008.05.31 06:01:00 - [6] Linkified And in before Dietrich and pals. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.05.31 06:13:00 - [7] Wow.... honestly no other word in the english language can possibly discribe my emotion right now at this. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
Reiisha Splint Eye Probabilities Inc. Dawn of Transcendence	Posted - 2008.05.31 06:24:00 - [8] All that means is that they're coming down on pure griefers. Spawncamping with 50 people will only mean that people will either quit the game or move to another server... Also, you can't expect to poke someone with a sharp stick for days on end without expecting a blow in the face at some point. I seriously wonder whether the SA people are that stupid or just jerks. EVE History Wiki
Coconut Joe VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.31 06:43:00 - [9] Quote: he thread is now closed, with "Raakam", a "Lead Customer Service" of Funcom, making the last post. ------------------------- So, there seems to be some confusion on both sides of the issue. Let's try to clarify the situation, and then perhaps we can get somewhere. PvP is acceptable in all shapes or forms. We have built-in mechanics that allow the player being killed to find a way out of it.. When those mechanics fail or do not function as intended we will step in. Until then we will be as hands off as possible. Now, we have a lot of players, a lot of servers, and a lot of petitions, as you may know. We do get a lot of petitions on Deathwhisper about "griefing". When do we take action? When it crosses the line. You can camp someone until the next day if you want. More power to you. What you cannot do is verbally threaten them or use inappropriate language. You cannot use exploits or bugs to kill other players, or for any reason, for that matter. The game is rated M, but that does not mean you can use racial slurs or issue personal attacks. In this case, the GM was seeing a lot of reports of griefing with regards to SA's guild. He didn't say you couldn't pvp. He made the honest mistake of giving out his personal opinion that maybe keeping a lower profile might be handy in avoiding a negative reputation. Obviously, it was a mistake. If you feel like it, bring all 300 of your friends, enemies, or whatever and beat each other senseless. It seems that our policies are not clear cut enough, and we will make every effort to clarify them so that there is absolutely no question as to what is appropriate and what is not. Goons using racial slurs? How out of character, and not the actual reason they've been told to stop. - Eve IGB Store Template - The complete eve retail solution.
Maria Anatolia	Posted - 2008.05.31 07:45:00 - [10] Edited by: Maria Anatolia on 31/05/2008 07:52:47 I don't think this is bad. Actually seems like a smart move. I have no love for griefers and Funcom are free to do what they want with their game. EDIT: After reading the chat I'm a bit more skeptical...anyway if I ever play the game I don't have to deal with that since I won't be playing on a PvP server.
Haakon Jarl direkte	Posted - 2008.05.31 08:09:00 - [11] Great move by Funcom. Goons dont want to play games, they want to ruin games. In it for the state
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2008.05.31 09:27:00 - [12] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 31/05/2008 09:34:00 I think killing people in groups is perfectly OK on a PVP server. Maybe its just me. Of course they get petitions about it from people who just want to go around and smell the flowers and watch the sunsets, but I dont really understand how the developers can build a PVP game and then complain when the ganked people file petitions... Strange. If you are going to have PVP in a game, you will lose certain customers who dont want to PVP unfairly. They should just accept it and move on, and not try to make the game perfect for everybody, because it never will be. I havent tried Conan, and this makes me want to try it even less. Which is probably good for everybody who hates getting ganked, because I like ganking when I do it to others. Its fun and evil, just like a good GAME should be. :) I was a big fan of the Tarren Mill battles in WoW before battlegrounds. Most fun Ive ever had in a mmorpg. --- Its dead, Jim.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.05.31 09:45:00 - [13] Just three (semi-rethoric) questions... 1. Is there a free trial ? I kind of doubt that. 2. Is the client still that huge 30+ GB monster ? I fear it might. 3. Do you really need a "good" machine to run it ? I hear you kind of do need something you could also run Crysis on or somesuch. So, even without the (apparently faked or at least misrepresented) group PvP scandal, I doubt I'll be trying it any time soon. Like, this lifetime. 1\|2\|3\|4\|5
Surfin's PlunderBunny Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.05.31 10:42:00 - [14] Glad I play Eve () () (â;..;)â (")(")
F'nog Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2008.05.31 10:51:00 - [15] While I think the Goons' actions are lame, complaining about it on a hardcore PvP server is stupid. It's one thing in Eve, where there's only one server (but that's an entirely different argument altogether), but it's ridiculous when you have PvE servers to use instead. When there's the choice of a PvE server (which, I assume, has optional PvP), and PvP-dedicated one, why complain that the PvP ones are harsh? Just go to a different server, not necessarily a PvE one even. Once again, I don't condone the Goons' actions, but when there's a choice of this or not (at all), Funcom just looks stupid for their actions. Let the PvP servers do what they want as long as no one's hacking or exploiting. But enforce the rules on PvE servers as one would think they should. PS - One would think this was happening on a PvE server the way the drama is unfolding. Instead it's, "OMG, people are killing each other on a PvP server? How dare they!" Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Zephyr Rengate Prophets Of a Damned Universe	Posted - 2008.05.31 12:39:00 - [16] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Glad I play Eve Also glad your no longer a goony? Originally by: Jenny Spitfire I habe no life.
Benco97	Posted - 2008.05.31 12:42:00 - [17] I don't see a problem with Funcom's actions, those people were ruining the game for other players, how is that fair? spawncamping low level players until they log off for no gain and no reason other than to upset them is not good. Originally by: P'uck You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
Amastat Omegatech	Posted - 2008.05.31 12:59:00 - [18] Edited by: Amastat on 31/05/2008 13:03:47 Edited by: Amastat on 31/05/2008 13:03:33 Are these goons related to Goonswarm or are they completely different? Edit: Looks like they arn't unless there is hidden ties I can't see after a 10-min quicksearch. ____________________ "All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu
Slade Trillgon Siorai Iontach Brotherhood of the Spider	Posted - 2008.05.31 13:29:00 - [19] Just glad I found out that my laptop could not handle this game soon enough to cancel my pre-order because I would probably be one of the idiots getting camped since I am very casual and take forever to level characters. Woooh, Slade
Istvaan Shogaatsu Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2008.05.31 14:01:00 - [20] Hah, awesome. The AoC goons must be getting a kick out of that. Reminds me of my permaban in Darkspace for exterminating a decent portion of the subscriber base :\|
Mangala Solaris Ma'adim Logistics	Posted - 2008.05.31 14:27:00 - [21] Originally by: Amastat Edited by: Amastat on 31/05/2008 13:03:47 Edited by: Amastat on 31/05/2008 13:03:33 Are these goons related to Goonswarm or are they completely different? Edit: Looks like they arn't unless there is hidden ties I can't see after a 10-min quicksearch. Both groups originated from SomethingAwful.com and probably share alot of the same memberbase across both games. -------
Gunner Dark	Posted - 2008.05.31 14:48:00 - [22] this is indeed the same goons, there are both euro and US wings of goons in AoC, and its no different to what they get up to here. AoC has been awesome so far, despite an army of trolls trying to prove otherwise
Marisal	Posted - 2008.05.31 16:46:00 - [23] Its sickenly amusing watching goons spread to other games, most companies are umming and erring about what todo about them, naturally their instinct is to go we can't ban a group this large because we have no system for maintain the ban on individuals and we can't ban groups en-mass because that's reputation destroying and might evoke a directed attack. Basic rock and hard place senario
Winterblink Body Count Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.31 17:26:00 - [24] Oh, goons... :) warp drive active \| nature vraie
TimMc Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.05.31 18:24:00 - [25] lol if everyone in eve complained when they got attacked 20v1...
Iva Soreass Personal Vendetta Vendetta Alliance.	Posted - 2008.05.31 19:14:00 - [26] Originally by: Akita T Just three (semi-rethoric) questions... 1. Is there a free trial ? I kind of doubt that. 2. Is the client still that huge 30+ GB monster ? I fear it might. 3. Do you really need a "good" machine to run it ? I hear you kind of do need something you could also run Crysis on or somesuch. So, even without the (apparently faked or at least misrepresented) group PvP scandal, I doubt I'll be trying it any time soon. Like, this lifetime. 1. Nope not yet mate. 2. Yeah im affraid so 3. Yeah good machine defo, my old machine just makes the game crap (when its great)
Kuseka Adama Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.05.31 21:11:00 - [27] Originally by: Marisal Its sickenly amusing watching goons spread to other games, most companies are umming and erring about what todo about them, naturally their instinct is to go we can't ban a group this large because we have no system for maintain the ban on individuals and we can't ban groups en-mass because that's reputation destroying and might evoke a directed attack. Basic rock and hard place senario Funcom at times has been sorely misguided but it has done exactly that on multiple occasions. With disasterious results. Anyone who still plays AO knows exactly what i mean. Its a very simple equation. Griefers+spawncampers=banned. There is no such thing as a hardcore server in this game. Spawncamping mofos are just that MOFOS (and if the forums allowed it i would be cursing a lot more) Funcom wont tolerate griefing in any form in this game. You think this is bad you should see the whines on the game over the RP-PVP rules. A lot of people think PVP allows you to **** up someone just because you can. I got news for you. Ya try that in real life i end up kicking your goddamned ass then suing you for everything you own!! In games retribution is a hell of a lot harder because usually the wimps that try are in groups and would fall in 3 friggin seconds if they attacked you alone. This applies to multiple SOB's in this game too. I for one am glad to see a GM take a stand; especially against those who stroke their goddamned e-peen for killing someone who was tryin to play the game. The fact is there are two serious games right now if you play MMO's worth investing in. This is the first AOC will be the second. Its had the smoothest launch of any MMO i have ever heard of. On top of all of it more is coming. It is a fun game and will i think if people give it the chance be an alternative to WoW Enjoy.
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.05.31 21:41:00 - [28] Originally by: Kuseka Adama Originally by: Marisal Its sickenly amusing watching goons spread to other games, most companies are umming and erring about what todo about them, naturally their instinct is to go we can't ban a group this large because we have no system for maintain the ban on individuals and we can't ban groups en-mass because that's reputation destroying and might evoke a directed attack. Basic rock and hard place senario Funcom at times has been sorely misguided but it has done exactly that on multiple occasions. With disasterious results. Anyone who still plays AO knows exactly what i mean. Its a very simple equation. Griefers+spawncampers=banned. There is no such thing as a hardcore server in this game. Spawncamping mofos are just that MOFOS (and if the forums allowed it i would be cursing a lot more) Funcom wont tolerate griefing in any form in this game. You think this is bad you should see the whines on the game over the RP-PVP rules. A lot of people think PVP allows you to ** up someone just because you can. I got news for you. Ya try that in real life i end up kicking your goddamned ass then suing you for everything you own!! In games retribution is a hell of a lot harder because usually the wimps that try are in groups and would fall in 3 friggin seconds if they attacked you alone. This applies to multiple SOB's in this game too. I for one am glad to see a GM take a stand; especially against those who stroke their goddamned e-peen for killing someone who was tryin to play the game. The fact is there are two serious games right now if you play MMO's worth investing in. This is the first AOC will be the second. Its had the smoothest launch of any MMO i have ever heard of. On top of all of it more is coming. It is a fun game and will i think if people give it the chance be an alternative to WoW Enjoy. Wow. PvP does mean you can mess someone up, because its a game, not real life. You dont log onto Halo and complain that someone sniped your head like a melon do you? No, you are in a pvp enviroment and if you accept that or not its a moot point, the fact is that by clicking the log on button to a pvp server you are agreeing to get your teeth kicked in just like everyone else who logs onto a pvp server. If you dont want to be in a situation where you may be ganked you have the option to go onto a server where pvp is optional, of course that means YOU need your TARGET's concent to attack first. The fact that GM's are going around banning people for pvping on a pvp server frankly scares the ** out of me and is poor buisness practice. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
Valentina Gallatoire	Posted - 2008.05.31 22:30:00 - [29] I play AoC on a FFA PVP server, though not the one the goons are on. Spawn camping and griefing are part of the game, and I think it's kind of silly to complain about them. I also think Funcom does not really have their internal policies straight, as I have heard multiple, conflicting reports regarding what is and is not allowed. Having a great time in the game, BTW, and yes, you need a decent computer. If you are not WELL ABOVE the minimum system requirements, don't even bother. Funcom shot way too low with those requirements.
P'uck	Posted - 2008.05.31 22:51:00 - [30] the tiny bit i read about AoC and its totally-out-of-proportion system reqs kinda looked like they screwed something up to me. ie, it doesnt really matter what rig you bring, you just need to get lucky. until they ironed out all the bugs and coding mistakes you will just need a lot more resources than you actually should. much like when the hullfire kicks in

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