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Inquisitor Ares
The Ministry of Death
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Posted - 2008.05.31 02:29:00 -
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Yes, yes it is:
http://digg.com/pc_games/Funcom_Tells_Guild_to_Stop_Killing_People_in_Groups
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Amastat
Omegatech
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Posted - 2008.05.31 03:32:00 -
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Glad I didn't get the game, tons of hype about it - look what it came to. 
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.05.31 03:32:00 -
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If this is even remotely true, this gets a huge ROFL from me.
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Havok Dryke
Golden Gavel Enterprises
The Cooperative
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Posted - 2008.05.31 04:28:00 -
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Edited by: Havok Dryke on 31/05/2008 04:28:09
Holy crap, corruption already?
Methinks I just won a lot of ISK in bets.
Edit: That sort of thing is low, and suppressing the information of the forums is even worse. For shame.
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Illrae Pyou
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Posted - 2008.05.31 04:33:00 -
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lol, moderation.
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F'nog
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2008.05.31 06:01:00 -
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Linkified
And in before Dietrich and pals.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.05.31 06:13:00 -
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Wow.... honestly no other word in the english language can possibly discribe my emotion right now at this.
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Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc.
Dawn of Transcendence
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Posted - 2008.05.31 06:24:00 -
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All that means is that they're coming down on pure griefers. Spawncamping with 50 people will only mean that people will either quit the game or move to another server...
Also, you can't expect to poke someone with a sharp stick for days on end without expecting a blow in the face at some point. I seriously wonder whether the SA people are that stupid or just jerks.
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Coconut Joe
VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.31 06:43:00 -
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Quote:
he thread is now closed, with "Raakam", a "Lead Customer Service" of Funcom, making the last post.
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So, there seems to be some confusion on both sides of the issue.
Let's try to clarify the situation, and then perhaps we can get somewhere.
PvP is acceptable in all shapes or forms. We have built-in mechanics that allow the player being killed to find a way out of it.. When those mechanics fail or do not function as intended we will step in. Until then we will be as hands off as possible.
Now, we have a lot of players, a lot of servers, and a lot of petitions, as you may know. We do get a lot of petitions on Deathwhisper about "griefing". When do we take action? When it crosses the line. You can camp someone until the next day if you want. More power to you.
What you cannot do is verbally threaten them or use inappropriate language. You cannot use exploits or bugs to kill other players, or for any reason, for that matter. The game is rated M, but that does not mean you can use racial slurs or issue personal attacks.
In this case, the GM was seeing a lot of reports of griefing with regards to SA's guild. He didn't say you couldn't pvp. He made the honest mistake of giving out his personal opinion that maybe keeping a lower profile might be handy in avoiding a negative reputation. Obviously, it was a mistake. If you feel like it, bring all 300 of your friends, enemies, or whatever and beat each other senseless.
It seems that our policies are not clear cut enough, and we will make every effort to clarify them so that there is absolutely no question as to what is appropriate and what is not.
Goons using racial slurs? How out of character, and not the actual reason they've been told to stop. 
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Maria Anatolia
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Posted - 2008.05.31 07:45:00 -
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Edited by: Maria Anatolia on 31/05/2008 07:52:47
I don't think this is bad. Actually seems like a smart move. I have no love for griefers and Funcom are free to do what they want with their game.
EDIT: After reading the chat I'm a bit more skeptical...anyway if I ever play the game I don't have to deal with that since I won't be playing on a PvP server.
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Haakon Jarl
direkte
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Posted - 2008.05.31 08:09:00 -
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Great move by Funcom. Goons dont want to play games, they want to ruin games.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.05.31 09:27:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 31/05/2008 09:34:00
I think killing people in groups is perfectly OK on a PVP server. Maybe its just me.
Of course they get petitions about it from people who just want to go around and smell the flowers and watch the sunsets, but I dont really understand how the developers can build a PVP game and then complain when the ganked people file petitions...
Strange. If you are going to have PVP in a game, you will lose certain customers who dont want to PVP unfairly. They should just accept it and move on, and not try to make the game perfect for everybody, because it never will be.
I havent tried Conan, and this makes me want to try it even less. Which is probably good for everybody who hates getting ganked, because I like ganking when I do it to others. Its fun and evil, just like a good GAME should be. :)
I was a big fan of the Tarren Mill battles in WoW before battlegrounds. Most fun Ive ever had in a mmorpg.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.05.31 09:45:00 -
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Just three (semi-rethoric) questions...
1. Is there a free trial ? I kind of doubt that.
2. Is the client still that huge 30+ GB monster ? I fear it might.
3. Do you really need a "good" machine to run it ? I hear you kind of do need something you could also run Crysis on or somesuch.
So, even without the (apparently faked or at least misrepresented) group PvP scandal, I doubt I'll be trying it any time soon. Like, this lifetime.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.05.31 10:42:00 -
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Glad I play Eve 
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F'nog
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2008.05.31 10:51:00 -
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While I think the Goons' actions are lame, complaining about it on a hardcore PvP server is stupid. It's one thing in Eve, where there's only one server (but that's an entirely different argument altogether), but it's ridiculous when you have PvE servers to use instead.
When there's the choice of a PvE server (which, I assume, has optional PvP), and PvP-dedicated one, why complain that the PvP ones are harsh? Just go to a different server, not necessarily a PvE one even.
Once again, I don't condone the Goons' actions, but when there's a choice of this or not (at all), Funcom just looks stupid for their actions. Let the PvP servers do what they want as long as no one's hacking or exploiting. But enforce the rules on PvE servers as one would think they should.
PS - One would think this was happening on a PvE server the way the drama is unfolding. Instead it's, "OMG, people are killing each other on a PvP server? How dare they!"
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
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Zephyr Rengate
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2008.05.31 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Glad I play Eve
Also glad your no longer a goony?
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
I habe no life. 
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Benco97
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Posted - 2008.05.31 12:42:00 -
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I don't see a problem with Funcom's actions, those people were ruining the game for other players, how is that fair? spawncamping low level players until they log off for no gain and no reason other than to upset them is not good.
Originally by: P'uck
You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
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Amastat
Omegatech
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Posted - 2008.05.31 12:59:00 -
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Edited by: Amastat on 31/05/2008 13:03:47
Edited by: Amastat on 31/05/2008 13:03:33
Are these goons related to Goonswarm or are they completely different?
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Looks like they arn't unless there is hidden ties I can't see after a 10-min quicksearch.
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Slade Trillgon
Siorai Iontach
Brotherhood of the Spider
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Posted - 2008.05.31 13:29:00 -
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Just glad I found out that my laptop could not handle this game soon enough to cancel my pre-order because I would probably be one of the idiots getting camped since I am very casual and take forever to level characters.
Woooh,
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.05.31 14:01:00 -
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Hah, awesome. The AoC goons must be getting a kick out of that.
Reminds me of my permaban in Darkspace for exterminating a decent portion of the subscriber base :|
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Mangala Solaris
Ma'adim Logistics
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Posted - 2008.05.31 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Amastat
Edited by: Amastat on 31/05/2008 13:03:47
Edited by: Amastat on 31/05/2008 13:03:33
Are these goons related to Goonswarm or are they completely different?
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Looks like they arn't unless there is hidden ties I can't see after a 10-min quicksearch.
Both groups originated from SomethingAwful.com and probably share alot of the same memberbase across both games.
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Gunner Dark
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Posted - 2008.05.31 14:48:00 -
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this is indeed the same goons, there are both euro and US wings of goons in AoC, and its no different to what they get up to here.
AoC has been awesome so far, despite an army of trolls trying to prove otherwise
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Marisal
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Posted - 2008.05.31 16:46:00 -
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Its sickenly amusing watching goons spread to other games, most companies are umming and erring about what todo about them, naturally their instinct is to go we can't ban a group this large because we have no system for maintain the ban on individuals and we can't ban groups en-mass because that's reputation destroying and might evoke a directed attack.
Basic rock and hard place senario
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.31 17:26:00 -
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Oh, goons... :)
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TimMc
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2008.05.31 18:24:00 -
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lol if everyone in eve complained when they got attacked 20v1...
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Iva Soreass
Personal Vendetta
Vendetta Alliance.
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Posted - 2008.05.31 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Just three (semi-rethoric) questions...
1. Is there a free trial ? I kind of doubt that.
2. Is the client still that huge 30+ GB monster ? I fear it might.
3. Do you really need a "good" machine to run it ? I hear you kind of do need something you could also run Crysis on or somesuch.
So, even without the (apparently faked or at least misrepresented) group PvP scandal, I doubt I'll be trying it any time soon. Like, this lifetime.
1. Nope not yet mate.
2. Yeah im affraid so 
3. Yeah good machine defo, my old machine just makes the game crap (when its great)
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Kuseka Adama
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.05.31 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Marisal
Its sickenly amusing watching goons spread to other games, most companies are umming and erring about what todo about them, naturally their instinct is to go we can't ban a group this large because we have no system for maintain the ban on individuals and we can't ban groups en-mass because that's reputation destroying and might evoke a directed attack.
Basic rock and hard place senario
Funcom at times has been sorely misguided but it has done exactly that on multiple occasions. With disasterious results. Anyone who still plays AO knows exactly what i mean.
Its a very simple equation. Griefers+spawncampers=banned. There is no such thing as a hardcore server in this game. Spawncamping mofos are just that MOFOS (and if the forums allowed it i would be cursing a lot more) Funcom wont tolerate griefing in any form in this game. You think this is bad you should see the whines on the game over the RP-PVP rules.
A lot of people think PVP allows you to **** up someone just because you can. I got news for you. Ya try that in real life i end up kicking your goddamned ass then suing you for everything you own!! In games retribution is a hell of a lot harder because usually the wimps that try are in groups and would fall in 3 friggin seconds if they attacked you alone. This applies to multiple SOB's in this game too. I for one am glad to see a GM take a stand; especially against those who stroke their goddamned e-peen for killing someone who was tryin to play the game.
The fact is there are two serious games right now if you play MMO's worth investing in. This is the first AOC will be the second. Its had the smoothest launch of any MMO i have ever heard of. On top of all of it more is coming. It is a fun game and will i think if people give it the chance be an alternative to WoW
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Posted - 2008.05.31 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Kuseka Adama
Originally by: Marisal
Its sickenly amusing watching goons spread to other games, most companies are umming and erring about what todo about them, naturally their instinct is to go we can't ban a group this large because we have no system for maintain the ban on individuals and we can't ban groups en-mass because that's reputation destroying and might evoke a directed attack.
Basic rock and hard place senario
Funcom at times has been sorely misguided but it has done exactly that on multiple occasions. With disasterious results. Anyone who still plays AO knows exactly what i mean.
Its a very simple equation. Griefers+spawncampers=banned. There is no such thing as a hardcore server in this game. Spawncamping mofos are just that MOFOS (and if the forums allowed it i would be cursing a lot more) Funcom wont tolerate griefing in any form in this game. You think this is bad you should see the whines on the game over the RP-PVP rules.
A lot of people think PVP allows you to **** up someone just because you can. I got news for you. Ya try that in real life i end up kicking your goddamned ass then suing you for everything you own!! In games retribution is a hell of a lot harder because usually the wimps that try are in groups and would fall in 3 friggin seconds if they attacked you alone. This applies to multiple SOB's in this game too. I for one am glad to see a GM take a stand; especially against those who stroke their goddamned e-peen for killing someone who was tryin to play the game.
The fact is there are two serious games right now if you play MMO's worth investing in. This is the first AOC will be the second. Its had the smoothest launch of any MMO i have ever heard of. On top of all of it more is coming. It is a fun game and will i think if people give it the chance be an alternative to WoW
Enjoy.
Wow.
PvP does mean you can mess someone up, because its a game, not real life. You dont log onto Halo and complain that someone sniped your head like a melon do you? No, you are in a pvp enviroment and if you accept that or not its a moot point, the fact is that by clicking the log on button to a pvp server you are agreeing to get your teeth kicked in just like everyone else who logs onto a pvp server.
If you dont want to be in a situation where you may be ganked you have the option to go onto a server where pvp is optional, of course that means YOU need your TARGET's concent to attack first.
The fact that GM's are going around banning people for pvping on a pvp server frankly scares the **** out of me and is poor buisness practice.
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Valentina Gallatoire
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Posted - 2008.05.31 22:30:00 -
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I play AoC on a FFA PVP server, though not the one the goons are on. Spawn camping and griefing are part of the game, and I think it's kind of silly to complain about them. I also think Funcom does not really have their internal policies straight, as I have heard multiple, conflicting reports regarding what is and is not allowed.
Having a great time in the game, BTW, and yes, you need a decent computer. If you are not WELL ABOVE the minimum system requirements, don't even bother. Funcom shot way too low with those requirements.
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P'uck
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Posted - 2008.05.31 22:51:00 -
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the tiny bit i read about AoC and its totally-out-of-proportion system reqs kinda looked like they screwed something up to me.
ie, it doesnt really matter what rig you bring, you just need to get lucky. until they ironed out all the bugs and coding mistakes you will just need a lot more resources than you actually should.
much like when the hullfire kicks in
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Victor Valka
Kissaki Corporation
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Posted - 2008.05.31 22:51:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Hah, awesome. The AoC goons must be getting a kick out of that.
Reminds me of my permaban in Darkspace for exterminating a decent portion of the subscriber base :|
Idle minds want to know - What did you do?
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You are insane.
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Valentina Gallatoire
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Posted - 2008.05.31 22:52:00 -
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I think the consensus is that if you have dual core, 2G+ ram, and an 8800 or better vid card then you can run AoC with decent settings.
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Bomberos
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Posted - 2008.05.31 23:27:00 -
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clearly.. that GM needs a spanking or fired.
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Arcticblue2
Nordic Freelancers inc
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Posted - 2008.06.01 11:13:00 -
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Edited by: Arcticblue2 on 01/06/2008 11:14:27
Originally by: P'uck
the tiny bit i read about AoC and its totally-out-of-proportion system reqs kinda looked like they screwed something up to me.
ie, it doesnt really matter what rig you bring, you just need to get lucky. until they ironed out all the bugs and coding mistakes you will just need a lot more resources than you actually should.
much like when the hullfire kicks in
I play the game on minimum requirement ... that is Low settings on my laptop, it is a Dell 1720 and it works out quite okey to be honest....
They have patched a few times but I think all in all it is quite okey game, I like it and I play on a PvP server, my guild is working towards becoming mercs... I like the option that you can fight all the way .. even in towns :-)
If people can't stand pvp ... then please ... roll pve instead.
Oh and I got a couple of friends who have quite good computers and both run the game on high ... and from what I have seen it looks great !!!!
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.06.01 15:10:00 -
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That's one thing you gotta love about the shard, it gets the shortbus people on their bus and the rest of us on our means of transport.
If anything the staticness of resources, respawns and questgivers facilitate the gank and needs to be looked at till then I might as well play EVE for my PvP.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Keorythe
Terra Rosa Militia
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2008.06.01 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: Coconut Joe
Goons using racial slurs? How out of character, and not the actual reason they've been told to stop.
Goons altering text and blowing something out of proportion? No! They would never do that in a million years. Why I'm sure that the text posted hasn't been shopped to their liking. I mean not the sweet innocent goonies! They would never lie about why they're in trouble.
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Posted - 2008.06.02 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
I might as well play EVE for my PvP.
Yeah, EVE PVP is far superior, but I'd be lying if I said that decapitating some lousy scrub was not satisfying.
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Posted - 2008.06.02 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: Haakon Jarl
Great move by Funcom. Goons dont want to play games, they want to ruin games.
QFT
The Goons aren't there to play a game. They're there to cause trouble for everyone, players and devs all.
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Posted - 2008.06.02 03:39:00 -
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Originally by: Fumbles McStupid
Originally by: Haakon Jarl
Great move by Funcom. Goons dont want to play games, they want to ruin games.
QFT
The Goons aren't there to play a game. They're there to cause trouble for everyone, players and devs all.
Yes, I agree. Should any player be discovered to be a active member of Something Awful, all his accounts should be permanently banned.
Bravo Funcom, you just took the first step towards doing the right thing! Now finish the job and remove this scourge of family friendly online entertainment from your game!
Goons PvPing in a PvP game? I mean, the nerve.
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Posted - 2008.06.02 05:41:00 -
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Edited by: Bomberos on 02/06/2008 05:41:45
i love AoC combat system
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F'nog
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2008.06.02 06:17:00 -
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Originally by: Fumbles McStupid
Originally by: Haakon Jarl
Great move by Funcom. Goons dont want to play games, they want to ruin games.
QFT
The Goons aren't there to play a game. They're there to cause trouble for everyone, players and devs all.
I agree with this sentiment, but come on, it was on a PvP server for Zeus' sake. If they were doing something untoward on a PvE server I could see the point, but as the guy above said, "PvPing on a PvP server? The Nerve."
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.06.02 06:21:00 -
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Originally by: Bomberos
Edited by: Bomberos on 02/06/2008 05:41:45
i love AoC combat system
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Barbarians... Too many damn options, whatever happened to F1-F8?
I'm a running joke next to the priest of Mitra. You hear the *PoM PoM PoM* in the distance? That is them nuking the server with their tank and gank.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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F'nog
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2008.06.03 10:05:00 -
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Does anyone else think that the devs and GMs over at Funcom need to actually READ, and re-read, the original Conan books? I just don't see how they are upholding the spirit of the franchise by reacting the way they are. It's almost like saying: "You play a bloodthirsty, amoral killer, but you can't actually kill anyone." The Belkster would be ****ed.
Yes, Goons are disgusting and should be... ignored, really. They want attention almost as much as Jack Thompson. Give it to them, and they're exultant. Ignore them and they'll go away.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
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KingsGambit
Caldari Knights
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Posted - 2008.06.03 11:19:00 -
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If people can't stand pvp ... then please ... roll pve instead.
With respect, I think you're missing the point. The players in question aren't PvPing, their sat in one place killing players as they respawn. It's basically griefing. There is not a thing the player on the receiving end can do about it, as the places you can respawn are a) limited and b) set locations. Of course it isn't fair to expect never to be a target on a PvP server, the whole point of it is so players can engage each other at any time.
But these players are not doing that, they're kicking people while their down, not letting them get back up again and removing all possible enjoyment from the game for their targets. The online equivalent of the playground bully. I'm quite happy to be ganked by a rogue down a city's dark alleyway, but if a game developer allows his friends to spawn-camp ensuring I never set foot outside the graveyard or have opportunity to retaliate, they're gonna lose a lot of customers.
Eve gives players a chance by warping in to systems cloaked. AoC needs to give respawning players on PvP servers 30 seconds of immunity, or invisibility, or something. This gives them a fair opportunity to a) buff up and fight back or b) use their interruptible, 30-minute cooldown teleport ability to go to their current home town (Equivalent of hearth stone/Inn in WoW).
PvP can be fun, challenging, rewarding, exhilerating and a great contest of strategy, skill (especially with AoC's twitch-based combat) and downright skullduggery. But griefing is IMO pretty low, ruins games for everyone and should quite rightly be met with a heavy hand.
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Iva Soreass
Personal Vendetta
Vendetta Alliance.
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Posted - 2008.06.03 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: KingsGambit
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If people can't stand pvp ... then please ... roll pve instead.
With respect, I think you're missing the point. The players in question aren't PvPing, their sat in one place killing players as they respawn. It's basically griefing. There is not a thing the player on the receiving end can do about it, as the places you can respawn are a) limited and b) set locations. Of course it isn't fair to expect never to be a target on a PvP server, the whole point of it is so players can engage each other at any time.
But these players are not doing that, they're kicking people while their down, not letting them get back up again and removing all possible enjoyment from the game for their targets. The online equivalent of the playground bully. I'm quite happy to be ganked by a rogue down a city's dark alleyway, but if a game developer allows his friends to spawn-camp ensuring I never set foot outside the graveyard or have opportunity to retaliate, they're gonna lose a lot of customers.
Eve gives players a chance by warping in to systems cloaked. AoC needs to give respawning players on PvP servers 30 seconds of immunity, or invisibility, or something. This gives them a fair opportunity to a) buff up and fight back or b) use their interruptible, 30-minute cooldown teleport ability to go to their current home town (Equivalent of hearth stone/Inn in WoW).
PvP can be fun, challenging, rewarding, exhilerating and a great contest of strategy, skill (especially with AoC's twitch-based combat) and downright skullduggery. But griefing is IMO pretty low, ruins games for everyone and should quite rightly be met with a heavy hand.
This.
EvE doesnt allow greifing of new players, so why should AoC ? Its a pvp game yes but so is eve.
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Posted - 2008.06.03 11:44:00 -
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Edited by: Benco97 on 03/06/2008 11:46:16
You know what I love about PvP servers in AoC? Random encounters.
Well, just today I was doing some quest where I had to kill some monster, it's almost a hard fight but I'm winning and just as I deal it the killing blow some Assassin appears behind me and starts stabbing me in the bottom hoping for an easy kill. However, had he been watching and if he'd known my class (HoX) he'd have seen I DIDN'T use my biggest skills.
Much perturbed by this ass-stabbery I span around and whipped out a Molten-steel slash, which critted... and stacked with my fiery weapons proc (chance to deal 120% fire damage on hit, sounds powerful but come on, I've put 10 feat points into it)... and got a fatality.
Oh you should have heard me cackle as I stabbed my sword clean through his chest before ripping it upwards and watching his body slump to the ground, it was wonderful.
Originally by: P'uck
You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
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GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.06.03 11:50:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Benco97
Edited by: Benco97 on 03/06/2008 11:46:16
You know what I love about PvP servers in AoC? Random encounters.
Well, just today I was doing some quest where I had to kill some monster, it's almost a hard fight but I'm winning and just as I deal it the killing blow some Assassin appears behind me and starts stabbing me in the bottom hoping for an easy kill. However, had he been watching and if he'd known my class (HoX) he'd have seen I DIDN'T use my biggest skills.
Much perturbed by this ass-stabbery I span around and whipped out a Molten-steel slash, which critted... and stacked with my fiery weapons proc (chance to deal 120% fire damage on hit, sounds powerful but come on, I've put 10 feat points into it)... and got a fatality.
Oh you should have heard me cackle as I stabbed my sword clean through his chest before ripping it upwards and watching his body slump to the ground, it was wonderful.
That was the longest and most drawn out way I've seen someone say "I stabbed" him that I've ever read.
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Benco97
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Posted - 2008.06.03 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Wild Rho
That was the longest and most drawn out way I've seen someone say "I stabbed" him that I've ever read.
Well, it WAS quite a spectacular stab.
Originally by: P'uck
You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
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Arcticblue2
Nordic Freelancers inc
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Posted - 2008.06.03 13:53:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Benco97
Originally by: Wild Rho
That was the longest and most drawn out way I've seen someone say "I stabbed" him that I've ever read.
Well, it WAS quite a spectacular stab.
Oh there are so many spectacular stabs when I use the right combo's you can see my toon sort of chop off both my victims arms and when the victim drops to the knees .. you see my toon swing his axe (is a Conqueror btw) and chop off his head as well... sort of like Monty Python's black knight
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Faekurias
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.06.03 13:56:00 -
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PVP-ing in a PVP-server?
OH LORD!
The humanity!
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Nordic Freelancers inc
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Posted - 2008.06.03 13:59:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Faekurias
PVP-ing in a PVP-server?
OH LORD!
The humanity!
Well I don't mind pvp on a pvp server, it is the griefing that needs to be controlled.
Yesterday two guys held my toon hostage inside the town with the guards watching.
One Ranger kept shooting root spells on me so I could not move and the other one just stood by and wrote stupid things...
Guards did not attack the ranger even that he was doing a hostile act (it is a hostile spell and guards should react to it).
Basically I was stuck there, with only option to log off.
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Posted - 2008.06.03 17:40:00 -
[52]
Originally by: KingsGambit
Quote:
If people can't stand pvp ... then please ... roll pve instead.
With respect, I think you're missing the point. The players in question aren't PvPing, their sat in one place killing players as they respawn. It's basically griefing. There is not a thing the player on the receiving end can do about it, as the places you can respawn are a) limited and b) set locations. Of course it isn't fair to expect never to be a target on a PvP server, the whole point of it is so players can engage each other at any time.
But these players are not doing that, they're kicking people while their down, not letting them get back up again and removing all possible enjoyment from the game for their targets. The online equivalent of the playground bully. I'm quite happy to be ganked by a rogue down a city's dark alleyway, but if a game developer allows his friends to spawn-camp ensuring I never set foot outside the graveyard or have opportunity to retaliate, they're gonna lose a lot of customers.
Thats prehaps the stupidest MMO feature I have ever heard of. "Lets make it so that respawning is set and the player can be killed before he even can move." Serously who the hell thought that was a good idea?! That company deserves to lose its customers for implimenting such a horrific design flaw into the game then taking out their frustrations when, gasp, players abuse that design flaw on their customers.
Trusting your player base to have the ethics not to spawn kill is like asking a mass murderer not to leave his Jail cell when the door is open, you just cant trust him and if your stupid enough to do so you deserve whats going to come from it.
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Kirjava
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.06.03 17:43:00 -
[53]
When I get my desktop - I am going to try this game.
Seems interesting....
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Digital Solaris
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Posted - 2008.06.04 00:03:00 -
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I should install the game again, despite its flaws, because I know of no other game that lets you do awesome stuff like this!
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Daelorn
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.06.04 00:31:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Digital Solaris
I should install the game again, despite its flaws, because I know of no other game that lets you do awesome stuff like this!
Oh wow, I lol'd.
Didnt even know you could do that.
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Havohej
The Defias Brotherhood
DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2008.06.04 01:02:00 -
[56]
ITT: new MMO wasn't ready for Goons.
If the screenshots linked in that DIGG thing were real, and Goons really are collecting money to fund DOS attacks on other guilds' web spaces and designing macros and bots and such...
As to a GM trying to give goons advice about how to not have a negative public image...
Originally by: techzer0
I'm invincible until proven wrong
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Posted - 2008.06.04 01:23:00 -
[57]
Originally by: F'nog
Does anyone else think that the devs and GMs over at Funcom need to actually READ, and re-read, the original Conan books? I just don't see how they are upholding the spirit of the franchise by reacting the way they are. It's almost like saying: "You play a bloodthirsty, amoral killer, but you can't actually kill anyone." The Belkster would be ****ed.
Don't assume every server is like that, nor even that the one server is like that... your sample size is too small.
From the reports of other people I've heard from, pvp on some servers is ganky but fun. Player skill more than player setups is seemingly still more important, unlike blob warfare like we have on our single server in Eve.
The game just went live... holy crap, was Eve 5 years ago like it is now? Is it fair to judge how a just-released game will be once stuff gets worked on and GMs have a chance to formulate sensible policy based on server-types? I've read different experiences from rp-pvp, pvp and pve servers.
Personally, I'm giving AoC a little while before I draw any conclusions about its value.
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Rooker
Lysian Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.06.04 01:42:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Jacob Mei
Wow.... honestly no other word in the english language can possibly discribe my emotion right now at this.
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LOLGOONS
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mamolian
Eternity INC.
Project Alice.
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Posted - 2008.06.04 02:39:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Digital Solaris
I should install the game again, despite its flaws, because I know of no other game that lets you do awesome stuff like this!
Awesome
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Posted - 2008.06.04 09:15:00 -
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i am selling age of conan game along with the account for it, ive given it a good chance but its just not worth half of what the monthly fee is to be honest.
the chat boxes are draconian and very limited, combat is repetitive and the graphics just arent that good even on max settings (despite what anyone says)
if it was free id have a couple of games a week for an hour or so but theres no way im paying for it. The map is poor and you often get stuck on silly things like a step or a bush. Pretty pathetic game in my opinion, dont waste your time.
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Posted - 2008.06.04 09:26:00 -
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Edited by: Bomberos on 04/06/2008 09:26:30
Goon smack talk has started
Linkage
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Angela Toren
Toren Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.06.04 10:32:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Spider Silva
i am selling age of conan game along with the account for it, ive given it a good chance but its just not worth half of what the monthly fee is to be honest.
the chat boxes are draconian and very limited, combat is repetitive and the graphics just arent that good even on max settings (despite what anyone says)
if it was free id have a couple of games a week for an hour or so but theres no way im paying for it. The map is poor and you often get stuck on silly things like a step or a bush. Pretty pathetic game in my opinion, dont waste your time.
Best thing to do is cancel your sub for a few months, that's what i did. The biggest thing that disappoints me with the game is zone instancing in the game world, to put it in a way people can understand: imagine 5 or more different versions of Jita containing isolated players in the same Forge region.
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Kissaki Corporation
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Posted - 2008.06.04 10:34:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Angela Toren
[...]imagine 5 or more different versions of Jita containing isolated players in the same Forge region.
One can dream... 
Originally by: Roxanna Kell
You are insane.
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Bomberos
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Posted - 2008.06.04 12:35:00 -
[64]
AoC even has virtual *****s on one of the RP servers 
Linkage
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MAXSuicide
The Ludovico Technique
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Posted - 2008.06.04 13:16:00 -
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Edited by: MAXSuicide on 04/06/2008 13:20:52
Its goons...... they might aswell mass ban because they will be griefing and being general ****s, bringing the game down to a low level anyway until something is done about them.
Player base on that server need to make a massive alliance of guilds or something and beat them at their own game tbh.
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Rawr Cristina
Naqam
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Posted - 2008.06.04 13:22:00 -
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If it's within the game mechanics, people will abuse it. If the AOC devs didn't want that, they shouldn't have allowed it...
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
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Posted - 2008.06.04 15:08:00 -
[67]
Originally by: KingsGambit
Quote:
If people can't stand pvp ... then please ... roll pve instead.
With respect, I think you're missing the point. The players in question aren't PvPing, their sat in one place killing players as they respawn.
Ah, respawn camping. Yep, that grief play.
For the dullards of the Eve community, imagine that if instead of waking up in a nice safe station when you died you appeared at a fixed location in deep space in a noob ship.
Now imagine how frustrating it would be if the Goons camped that spot and killed you again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again.
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Yarrrateers
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Posted - 2008.06.04 15:55:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: KingsGambit
Quote:
If people can't stand pvp ... then please ... roll pve instead.
With respect, I think you're missing the point. The players in question aren't PvPing, their sat in one place killing players as they respawn.
Ah, respawn camping. Yep, that grief play.
For the dullards of the Eve community, imagine that if instead of waking up in a nice safe station when you died you appeared at a fixed location in deep space in a noob ship.
Now imagine how frustrating it would be if the Goons camped that spot and killed you again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again.
Kind of a bad analogy:
- You can change instances in AoC
- You can pick a new waypoint to res at
But the issuing comes more from a GM ruling probably. As far as I know spawn camping has been labeled an illegal game offense for a while. They were supposed to implement some kind of prison system or something like that but it didn't make it to launch.
It's really not such a bad problem from my experiences and my friend's experiences. It's an FFA PVP server you can't expect to be doing an npc quest without hinderance now and again. That's really why they signed up.
And yes, I play on Deathwhisper. For those of you that don't know that's where Hordes of Goonhiem are located.
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Aricaan
Prophetics Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.04 21:40:00 -
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Sounds like it wasnt ready to released, sounds like funcom pulled another Anarchy Online.
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.06.04 22:14:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: KingsGambit
Quote:
If people can't stand pvp ... then please ... roll pve instead.
With respect, I think you're missing the point. The players in question aren't PvPing, their sat in one place killing players as they respawn.
Ah, respawn camping. Yep, that grief play.
For the dullards of the Eve community, imagine that if instead of waking up in a nice safe station when you died you appeared at a fixed location in deep space in a noob ship.
Now imagine how frustrating it would be if the Goons camped that spot and killed you again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again.
EvE gives you a 30 second immunity when you come out of a station and warp making spawn killing impossible. The only games that should allow spawn killing in any real form is FPS style games, spawn killing really has no buisness in MMO's.
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Posted - 2008.06.04 22:39:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Bomberos on 04/06/2008 22:43:21
Originally by: Aricaan
Sounds like it wasnt ready to released, sounds like funcom pulled another Anarchy Online.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.06.05 06:32:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Bomberos
Edited by: Bomberos on 04/06/2008 22:43:21
Originally by: Aricaan
Sounds like it wasnt ready to released, sounds like funcom pulled another Anarchy Online.
Could you name me 3 MMOs that were ready on release.
Told them long before release, make respawns dynamic but if you have to do static do it in safehouses, caves, shacks and inns, where you cannot be attacked and with multiple exits. A shining plate serving you up isn't that.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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mama guru
Contraband Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.05 15:45:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Originally by: Bomberos
Edited by: Bomberos on 04/06/2008 22:43:21
Originally by: Aricaan
Sounds like it wasnt ready to released, sounds like funcom pulled another Anarchy Online.
Could you name me 3 MMOs that were ready on release.
Told them long before release, make respawns dynamic but if you have to do static do it in safehouses, caves, shacks and inns, where you cannot be attacked and with multiple exits. A shining plate serving you up isn't that.
Eve was ****ty on release, Wow was ****ty on release. It's only natural that Age of Conan will be ****ty on release. However i must say i enjoy playing the game because of its imba graphics.
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Zephyr Rengate
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2008.06.05 16:43:00 -
[74]
Just ordered it, will be expecting to get it tomoz, Though how long does it roughly take to install/ download?
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
I habe no life.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.06.05 22:53:00 -
[75]
Originally by: mama guru
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Originally by: Bomberos
Edited by: Bomberos on 04/06/2008 22:43:21
Originally by: Aricaan
Sounds like it wasnt ready to released, sounds like funcom pulled another Anarchy Online.
Could you name me 3 MMOs that were ready on release.
Told them long before release, make respawns dynamic but if you have to do static do it in safehouses, caves, shacks and inns, where you cannot be attacked and with multiple exits. A shining plate serving you up isn't that.
Eve was ****ty on release, Wow was ****ty on release. It's only natural that Age of Conan will be ****ty on release. However i must say i enjoy playing the game because of its imba graphics.
Difference is AoC isn't Funcoms first MMO and worldwide PvP and static respawns is never a good idea, aspiring MMO developers take note.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Forum Warrior
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Posted - 2008.06.06 01:53:00 -
[76]
AOC is much ****tier than most other recent or even all-time MMO launches, content-wise.
Even disregarding the failed PVP. The content gets so thin at 50 that you have to grind more than half of all xp up to 80, whereas in most other MMOs at launch that I remember (I played nearly everything at launch, call me crazy  ) the lack of content only really became that apparent once you hit the level cap.
Then there are also some ridiculously ******** design decisions / glaring balancing errors, namely not getting quest credit for mob kills after you died but your group still kills it (excuse me, but is this the year 1997?), ********ly long spawn times on ALL mobs - up to 15 mins or more on quest mobs that can be solo'd - so that there is practically no single outdoor spawn that can sustain more than 2 players grinding there. This coupled with the abysmal time/xp efficiency of grinding "elite" mobs in a group makes either for constant running from one spot to the next (which ******* sucks, to be blunt, no time to type or do whatever) or solo grinding (hooray!).
Also, the traveling system or rather the lack thereof - if dying is the fastest way to travel something is seriously wrong (again, is this 1997?).
My advice: hope the game hasn't died in a couple of months, and give it a try then.
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F'nog
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2008.06.06 06:44:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Originally by: mama guru
Eve was ****ty on release, Wow was ****ty on release. It's only natural that Age of Conan will be ****ty on release. However i must say i enjoy playing the game because of its imba graphics.
Difference is AoC isn't Funcoms first MMO and worldwide PvP and static respawns is never a good idea, aspiring MMO developers take note.
Yeah, when you've done this before and have access to tons of examples from other projects, there's really no excuse for making the same mistakes over again. If others have proven something is a bad idea, DON'T do it.
There's ample evidence of the sorts of mechanics players will take advantage of or exploit. Why game companies still include them I'll never know.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.06.06 07:34:00 -
[78]
I'm liking it overall, what I don't like is my forum application somehow not registering, they must've been warned.
That and the petition system, it seriously blows, it's like holding on the phone with the Marathon Man constantly asking you 'is it safe?' I never know what petition it is I'm waiting for, can I even have more than one active, if it'll time out and be discarded or when the GMs is going to get to me having had 0 before me in line for the last two hours?? The GM I got hold of was nice enough but the other sending me a /tell asking if I was online when I wasn't is making me think their logs show nothing.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.06.06 07:43:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Forum Warrior
AOC is much ****tier than most other recent or even all-time MMO launches, content-wise.
Even disregarding the failed PVP. The content gets so thin at 50 that you have to grind more than half of all xp up to 80, whereas in most other MMOs at launch that I remember (I played nearly everything at launch, call me crazy ) the lack of content only really became that apparent once you hit the level cap.
Then there are also some ridiculously ******** design decisions / glaring balancing errors, namely not getting quest credit for mob kills after you died but your group still kills it (excuse me, but is this the year 1997?), ********ly long spawn times on ALL mobs - up to 15 mins or more on quest mobs that can be solo'd - so that there is practically no single outdoor spawn that can sustain more than 2 players grinding there. This coupled with the abysmal time/xp efficiency of grinding "elite" mobs in a group makes either for constant running from one spot to the next (which ******* sucks, to be blunt, no time to type or do whatever) or solo grinding (hooray!).
Also, the traveling system or rather the lack thereof - if dying is the fastest way to travel something is seriously wrong (again, is this 1997?).
My advice: hope the game hasn't died in a couple of months, and give it a try then.
of course not, instead of the client taking 30 megabytes it takes up 30 gigabytes (or so I hear)
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Posted - 2008.06.06 08:30:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
I'm liking it overall, what I don't like is my forum application somehow not registering, they must've been warned.
I had a problem with the forums too but then I found out that accounts for the US and EU forums are separate, make sure you're attempting to sign in to the correct one.
Originally by: P'uck
You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.06.06 08:44:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Benco97
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
I'm liking it overall, what I don't like is my forum application somehow not registering, they must've been warned.
I had a problem with the forums too but then I found out that accounts for the US and EU forums are separate, make sure you're attempting to sign in to the correct one.
There is never a time when it lets me choose either or since you have to register for the forums on your account which is tied to regional servers. I get this alright;
'Success
Update Forum Login
Your Forum Login Details have been updated'
Then it's all fail from there with me not being able to log on to the forums. One of these days I'll sit around for 11 hours waiting for a petition on it.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Benco97
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Posted - 2008.06.06 09:04:00 -
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Yeah, I never got to choose either, I need the EU forums but whenever I clicked the forum link it'd always direct me to the US ones.
EU forums
US forums
I hope that's your problem, there is a lot of useful info on the forums which it would be a shame to miss out on. Lots of whining too about the smallest things but that's normal.
Originally by: P'uck
You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.06.06 09:28:00 -
[83]
It's not.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Benco97
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Posted - 2008.06.06 09:50:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
It's not.
Ahh..well.. sorry. I tried.
Originally by: P'uck
You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2008.06.06 11:03:00 -
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lost 60 euros to that crap .. because they banned me! Said that 1500 gold after few days of release was not possible. Not my fault they betatested with retail customers 
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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Zephyr Rengate
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2008.06.06 11:46:00 -
[86]
grrr, installing it now, very slow. I got to 100% installed then 1 of my cd drives stopped working . So have to restart that bit. Its a 15gig patch after installing?
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
I habe no life.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2008.06.06 12:08:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Zephyr Rengate
grrr, installing it now, very slow. I got to 100% installed then 1 of my cd drives stopped working . So have to restart that bit. Its a 15gig patch after installing?
contact me ingame and for 500mil I can tell you how to obtain "free gold" in AoC!! Honest!
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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Zephyr Rengate
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2008.06.06 12:15:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Kuolematon
Originally by: Zephyr Rengate
grrr, installing it now, very slow. I got to 100% installed then 1 of my cd drives stopped working . So have to restart that bit. Its a 15gig patch after installing?
contact me ingame and for 500mil I can tell you how to obtain "free gold" in AoC!! Honest!
Ok!!111
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
I habe no life.
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Originally by: Zephyr Rengate
Originally by: Kuolematon
Originally by: Zephyr Rengate
grrr, installing it now, very slow. I got to 100% installed then 1 of my cd drives stopped working . So have to restart that bit. Its a 15gig patch after installing?
contact me ingame and for 500mil I can tell you how to obtain "free gold" in AoC!! Honest!
Ok!!111
lol
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Posted - 2008.06.06 12:54:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Zephyr Rengate
grrr, installing it now, very slow. I got to 100% installed then 1 of my cd drives stopped working . So have to restart that bit. Its a 15gig patch after installing?
No, 15gb patch is not normal. The game will attempt to download any files it thinks need replacing so perhaps something went a little... "wonky" when your drive stopped working?
Originally by: P'uck
You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
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Posted - 2008.06.06 13:41:00 -
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Well i reinstalled it, downloaded a patch about 800mb, now all i need to do is register a new account, cannot do that for a few hours, got no credit card on me  .
Then after that its ready to play?
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
I habe no life.
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Posted - 2008.06.06 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Zephyr Rengate
Well i reinstalled it, downloaded a patch about 800mb, now all i need to do is register a new account, cannot do that for a few hours, got no credit card on me .
Then after that its ready to play?
I was confused when making my account, as I selected "Pay by Cash" as my payment option it didn't actually ask for any payment details, I imagine it'll ask me when my 30 days runs out though.
Originally by: P'uck
You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
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Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2008.06.06 13:46:00 -
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i'll give that a try and kill you on eve if it screws up my account
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
I habe no life.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.06.06 14:44:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Kuolematon
lost 60 euros to that crap .. because they banned me! Said that 1500 gold after few days of release was not possible. Not my fault they betatested with retail customers
However did you 'sploit up 1500 gold?
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Posted - 2008.06.06 14:48:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Zephyr Rengate
i'll give that a try and kill you on eve if it screws up my account
Please work
Originally by: P'uck
You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
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Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2008.06.06 16:58:00 -
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Overall impression is not that great. Average FPS is 30-60 which is alright but I think it could be better. Gameplay is ok, though I dont look forward to grind quests which only involve kill x or get x. Not a fan of this instancing and single player mode idea. UI is very basic.
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
I habe no life.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2008.06.07 08:47:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
However did you 'sploit up 1500 gold?
By being too nice to people. I tried to offer an armor to a stranger because he could use better one and I could only get 14 Tin from vendor by selling it. That bastard ran away from my trade window and then that armor appered to his side of trade screen too. I canceled and tought wtf, I will sell it to vendor. I pressed "Sell" and received 14 Tin but armor stayed in my inventory. I tought it was lag so I did it again .. same result. I did like few silvers this way but lost connection and when I returned, that armor was back in normal state.
... some days ago I figured how to do that bug and reported it to GM's - or tried because you see in AoC they have 19th century petition system. You have to be ONLINE when GM receives it. You cannot simply "send letter" and wait when GM's replyes. No sir! You have to stay ONLINE! I send my petition and made is class EXPLOIT which SHOULD scream over those nublets stuck in quests or someone crying about Goon's ganking them but I was wrong. FunCom was busier to suck up customers than fix exploits. 190 petitions was before me. After 4 hours, 180, after 5 hours, 181 .. I was WTF and logged off because you know one must sleep sometime. I did petition 2 more times and waited total of 20 HOURS but never GM replied. So I tought what the hell, I will get my mount and best backpack then and .. rest is history.
I never gave any of my money to people nor bought items to them. When they banned me I told 'em to remove those items I had (2 mounts and skills for them) and unban me. They never did. Oh btw they did emergency gold wipe and deleted all my legal cash too. Yay.
FunCom, ****tiest customer service but sadly, they also made best MMO ever, AO
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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Posted - 2008.06.07 08:57:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Kuolematon
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
However did you 'sploit up 1500 gold?
By being too nice to people. I tried to offer an armor to a stranger because he could use better one and I could only get 14 Tin from vendor by selling it. That bastard ran away from my trade window and then that armor appered to his side of trade screen too. I canceled and tought wtf, I will sell it to vendor. I pressed "Sell" and received 14 Tin but armor stayed in my inventory. I tought it was lag so I did it again .. same result. I did like few silvers this way but lost connection and when I returned, that armor was back in normal state.
... some days ago I figured how to do that bug and reported it to GM's - or tried because you see in AoC they have 19th century petition system. You have to be ONLINE when GM receives it. You cannot simply "send letter" and wait when GM's replyes. No sir! You have to stay ONLINE! I send my petition and made is class EXPLOIT which SHOULD scream over those nublets stuck in quests or someone crying about Goon's ganking them but I was wrong. FunCom was busier to suck up customers than fix exploits. 190 petitions was before me. After 4 hours, 180, after 5 hours, 181 .. I was WTF and logged off because you know one must sleep sometime. I did petition 2 more times and waited total of 20 HOURS but never GM replied. So I tought what the hell, I will get my mount and best backpack then and .. rest is history.
I never gave any of my money to people nor bought items to them. When they banned me I told 'em to remove those items I had (2 mounts and skills for them) and unban me. They never did. Oh btw they did emergency gold wipe and deleted all my legal cash too. Yay.
FunCom, ****tiest customer service but sadly, they also made best MMO ever, AO
how can I digg this post
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.06.07 09:46:00 -
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That arcane petition system is why I just cancelled my subscription, there is only so much abuse one can take.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2008.06.08 17:40:00 -
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A few more thoughts on AOC.
It really should not have been released at the current state its in, the options to lower graphics actualy lower your FPS. I'm running it on a fairly decent machine, I feel sorry for those on worse. So I can manage a nice looking enviroment but it spikes FPS wise too much. Whats even more annoying is the lack of replies from funcom about their poor game engine.
However I do enjoy the gameplay, quests are fun, though not really challenging. PvP is pretty fun, though at the moment i see no risk involved.
I can see why lots of people are saying its another Anarchy online.
So glad i still got EvE and FW to look forward to. Since I dont think I will be adding a subriction till i can be told by funcom when they are going to sort the big issue of performance.
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
I habe no life.
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Pelennor Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.06.08 22:03:00 -
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anyone else have the problem where the intro video skips?
me and another guy both have the problem and our machines should be able to run it just fine. tried messing around with the settings but no go
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F'nog
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2008.06.08 23:54:00 -
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The think the new Noob has something to say about this issue.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
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Zephyr Rengate
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2008.06.09 00:02:00 -
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Oh dear God, I just started reading the AOC EU forums, so many whines. Funny thing is unlike in EvE most of the whines hold a lot of credit and evidence.
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
I habe no life.
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Posted - 2008.06.09 00:24:00 -
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Should have been here when EVE was released
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Posted - 2008.06.09 00:26:00 -
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Originally by: Inquisitor Ares
Yes, yes it is:
http://digg.com/pc_games/Funcom_Tells_Guild_to_Stop_Killing_People_in_Groups
Well some of the PVP wasn't well thought out.
As a game it is pretty damn cool. I played on the limited PVP server and it is fun enough the combat is great I enjoy it.
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Posted - 2008.06.09 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Zephyr Rengate
Overall impression is not that great. Average FPS is 30-60 which is alright but I think it could be better. Gameplay is ok, though I dont look forward to grind quests which only involve kill x or get x. Not a fan of this instancing and single player mode idea. UI is very basic.
30 to 60 is great.
The game ramps up after 30 and gets more interesting, some of the dungeons are very very good. Like Hall of Souls or whatever they call it.
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Posted - 2008.06.09 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: Bomberos
Should have been here when EVE was released
Eve sucked hard when it was released. It also sucked hard in beta and wasn't ready for release but they had to.
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Posted - 2008.06.09 00:30:00 -
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Edited by: lookingatme on 09/06/2008 00:32:25
i found this a bit.. entertaining to say the least.
Its probably one of the best reasons goons are hated so much.
clicky
Make sure you read there little newsletter thing to lol. found that suprising. (second image)
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Posted - 2008.06.09 00:39:00 -
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People pay real money to be in a guild?
I don't think so I don't care how cool they think they are.
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Messerschmitt facility
Shinra
Shinra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.09 07:37:00 -
[110]
Originally by: lookingatme
Edited by: lookingatme on 09/06/2008 00:32:25
i found this a bit.. entertaining to say the least.
Its probably one of the best reasons goons are hated so much.
clicky
Make sure you read there little newsletter thing to lol. found that suprising. (second image)
WHAT? Is that a joke? Paying 100$ TO BE IN A GUILD? ROFLMAO.
Remaining racial slurs? Sorry, can't stop laughing. That's the biggest joke i've seen in ages.
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direkte
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Posted - 2008.06.09 07:41:00 -
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Why AOC is win Linkage
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Messerschmitt facility
Shinra
Shinra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.09 08:18:00 -
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Sorry, couldn't help it not to post again, but I was just reading this silly forum
Are they suggesting they have somebody(s) working as a GM(s) and that's how they get all the items in-game and the reason why people are paying them?
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Posted - 2008.06.09 08:20:00 -
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They are just trolling. 
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Posted - 2008.06.09 09:48:00 -
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Yes Messerschmitt facility it is real. They charge people for being in there guild. and you seen the newsletter, they rely on hacs and 3rd party programs to win over and be the first to do whatever in a new game.. Kinda lame. And im sure its the same for the guys in eve atm. they may charge a fee to actually play.
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Messerschmitt facility
Shinra
Shinra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.09 18:41:00 -
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So did they xploited EVE too at the beggining? :P
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Pr1ncess Alia
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.06.09 21:07:00 -
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wow, i think i'd rather 'get' herpes than 'get' goons
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F'nog
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2008.06.10 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Haakon Jarl
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Posted - 2008.06.10 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: lookingatme
Edited by: lookingatme on 09/06/2008 00:32:25
i found this a bit.. entertaining to say the least.
Its probably one of the best reasons goons are hated so much.
clicky
Make sure you read there little newsletter thing to lol. found that suprising. (second image)
Utterly hilarious
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From what I heard and played from AOC, This topic may, or may not be true, I have looked on every server, and have not found a problem with large group killings, tho I have seen one, whitch didn't last long before another group of players grouped togeather and struk them down, teamwork in AOC is fairly good, tho some people communicate VIA text, some dont. Dont judge a game from what other idiots say, try playing the game yourself, and see what you think. Its actually a fantasticly well made combat MMORPG. Like EVE in the sense that the GMs actually play the game. But if you dont like fighting games, this game is not for you.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.06.16 22:57:00 -
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Have they fixed their petition system yet?
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.17 06:40:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Have they fixed their petition system yet?
lol AOC petitions.
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
I habe no life.
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Shadowsword
COLSUP
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.06.17 08:16:00 -
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One irritating thing about AOC: it run better with high-res textures settings than low-res settings. Why? Because whoever brainless wonder programmed that part decided that in order to disply low-res textures, the game would take the high-res ones, use processing power to degrade them, and then display them.
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Nordic Freelancers inc
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Posted - 2008.06.17 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowsword
One irritating thing about AOC: it run better with high-res textures settings than low-res settings. Why? Because whoever brainless wonder programmed that part decided that in order to disply low-res textures, the game would take the high-res ones, use processing power to degrade them, and then display them.
He he .. yeah I play AoC on my Dell Inspiron 1720 with High settings, for better performance in FPS I use Pixelshader 2.0 in cities and 3.0 outside.
Have had up to 50 FPS at times, sometimes it lags out pretty bad but usually around 20-30 fps.
Also must say that after each patch things seems to work better and better... currently playing a priest or Tempest of Set, also got a Conqueror that I swich between to play.
Also looking forward to the new grief-system ... or anti-grief system that is.
Aparently it will come that if you kill lots of low-levels you get flagged Fugitive, and becomes red... so people can see that you are a griefer and kill you on spot, if you kill a fugitive you can loot the body for some money and items aparently.
Atleast that is what Ellingson told one of the local news papers here in Norway.
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Kissaki Corporation
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Posted - 2008.06.17 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Arcticblue2
Originally by: Shadowsword
One irritating thing about AOC: it run better with high-res textures settings than low-res settings. Why? Because whoever brainless wonder programmed that part decided that in order to disply low-res textures, the game would take the high-res ones, use processing power to degrade them, and then display them.
He he .. yeah I play AoC on my Dell Inspiron 1720 with High settings, for better performance in FPS I use Pixelshader 2.0 in cities and 3.0 outside.
Have had up to 50 FPS at times, sometimes it lags out pretty bad but usually around 20-30 fps.
Also must say that after each patch things seems to work better and better... currently playing a priest or Tempest of Set, also got a Conqueror that I swich between to play.
Also looking forward to the new grief-system ... or anti-grief system that is.
Aparently it will come that if you kill lots of low-levels you get flagged Fugitive, and becomes red... so people can see that you are a griefer and kill you on spot, if you kill a fugitive you can loot the body for some money and items aparently.
Atleast that is what Ellingson told one of the local news papers here in Norway.
You know, in Ultima Online, PK got their names in red and were free-for-all. It was considered a badge of honor and did nothing to discourage them. EVE's criminal standings work the same way.
We all know how this worked out in both games.
(Hint: It doesn't work! )
(Before you flame me - I'm just stating a fact, not arguing the merits. I'm pro-do-whatever-floats-your-lily and fully endorse piracy.)
Originally by: Roxanna Kell
You are insane.
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Crux Australis
MotorSaikol LadrUNZ
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Posted - 2008.06.17 21:05:00 -
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FunCom?
More like FailCom.
I want my Ç49,99 back****gots !
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MalVortex
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.06.17 21:36:00 -
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Confirming here that this game is fail. Couple RL friends coned me into getting it.
Yea. Don't.
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PinK TacO Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.17 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: Messerschmitt facility
Edited by: Messerschmitt facility on 09/06/2008 07:54:42
WHAT? Is that a joke? Paying 100$ TO BE IN A GUILD? ROFLMAO.
Remaining racial slurs? Sorry, can't stop laughing. That's the biggest joke i've seen in ages.
Edit: LOL they have similiar stuff in WoW? Ahaha, do they have this in EVE too? That would be news flash for me (and prooly for alot others).
Who in their right minds would "pay" to be in a stupid guild/corp/org in a virtual game?
It's well worth the money, especially the Platinum membership.
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Shadowsword
COLSUP
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.06.19 10:57:00 -
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First siege done, participating players report many bugs, and so much video lag it's simply unplayable.
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State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.19 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowsword
First siege done, participating players report many bugs, and so much video lag it's simply unplayable.
The discussion pointing out all siege warfares flaws got deleted on the eu AOC forums. Its generally the tactic of FC to lock or delete any discussion criticising the games serious design flaws (which are plentifull)
Though my biggest problem with AOC is the lack of sandbox style. I just love the creativity allowed in EvE compared to in AOC where everyone lvls up to 80 following the same rough path. The destiny quests finished it off for me simply because you have to do single player to progress in the game.
PvP is one lame thing in AOC aswell. I know its only a few weeks old but making some classes have no real role in group PvP, for example demologists when they meant to be CC anda high damage class , yet they get out damaged by healers and have less CC. Its hard to think what the devs were thinking when they designed a few of the classses.
The combo system is a total joke aswell. Many AOC players claim it requires skill to execute combos at the right time and for the right class. Total bull****. Most players ive spoken (and I) use the same combos in the same order for every class they face. Which simply shows that no real thought is required to suceed. I have to say even WoW requires the player to slightly think about his order of attack more then in AOC.
In all this is one big let down for a game that promised so much in terms of PvP. Siege warfare being the center piece of PvP when it does not even work, nor is there any point in creating a town simply for it to be destroyed in no less then 20 mins. It would be like me setting up a POS using all the most exspensive items for no return in minerals from the moon, to then it having a tank of a shuttle.
Avoid at all costs at least for a few months.
<3 EvE
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
I habe no life.
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Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.06.22 17:52:00 -
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bought a copy. spent 2 hours installing and patching, signed up for an account hoping to use the 30 days free, just to try it out. Lo and behold they want you to suscribe with a card to make an account. WTF? I dont have a card atm I just wanted to try it out, money grabbing *****s. Now i gotta see if the shop will give me a refund
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Delvardious Kaesos
Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium
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Posted - 2008.06.22 17:54:00 -
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They won't give you a refund. It's an MMORPG, as far as they know, you used the activation code within.
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Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.06.22 17:59:00 -
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ah yes but i have contacts
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Kissaki Corporation
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Posted - 2008.06.22 18:34:00 -
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Edited by: Victor Valka on 22/06/2008 18:34:13
Originally by: kor anon
ah yes but i have contacts
As do I. They improve my vision but help shit all when it comes to refunds. Am I doing it wrong?
Originally by: Roxanna Kell
You are insane.
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Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.06.22 18:39:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Victor Valka
Edited by: Victor Valka on 22/06/2008 18:34:13
Originally by: kor anon
ah yes but i have contacts
As do I. They improve my vision but help shit all when it comes to refunds. Am I doing it wrong?
lol i meant the other kind
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Kissaki Corporation
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Posted - 2008.06.22 18:43:00 -
[135]
Originally by: kor anon
Originally by: Victor Valka
Edited by: Victor Valka on 22/06/2008 18:34:13
Originally by: kor anon
ah yes but i have contacts
As do I. They improve my vision but help shit all when it comes to refunds. Am I doing it wrong?
lol i meant the other kind
Ah. The ones you call up to request a hit on someone?
Originally by: Roxanna Kell
You are insane.
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kor anon
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.06.22 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Valka
Originally by: kor anon
Originally by: Victor Valka
Edited by: Victor Valka on 22/06/2008 18:34:13
Originally by: kor anon
ah yes but i have contacts
As do I. They improve my vision but help shit all when it comes to refunds. Am I doing it wrong?
lol i meant the other kind
Ah. The ones you call up to request a hit on someone?
perhaps ill knock off the head of funcom, then the people will be free from tyranny.
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mishkof
Finis Lumen
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.25 11:21:00 -
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Edited by: mishkof on 25/06/2008 11:23:46
Edited by: mishkof on 25/06/2008 11:22:12
I was wondering if AoC had a thread on this board.
It does.
After one month of play I must say the game has potential. That is really its only strong point right now.
The PvP is unbalanced, but it is a solid foundation, and the content is lacking. There are core concepts about the games PvP that need some major tweaking/overhaul IMO. The melee combat system is alright, however casters are still auto attack which is where the core of the imbalance comes from. The sieging system definately needs a tuneup and you need a high end machine to get real results at this point.
It has extremely nice graphics, beautiful areas, and with some supplimental UI components and a new chat the UI is decent. It is not nearly as gear dependent as wow, and leveling is easier as well. Less lag time between start and getting on with endgame PvP.
I have met quite a few good players, mostly from shadowbane, and Dark age of Camelot. You of course have your wow kiddies mixed in there. Server pops are holding steady, as there definately was a decline in subs after the intial free month so you can get an idea of where the actual population is at.
The main reason I wanted to comment in this thread is to the people complaining about lag in the game.....
You play eve online. Eve online for all its greatness is the most laggy POS on the market right now when it comes to performence. Seriously, AoC or any other game cannot light a candle next to the king of lag and desyncs aka Eve online.
In fact if Eve endgame territorial PvP actually worked (because it doesn't) I would not be looking for another game to play.
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Spartan Industries
Cruel Intentions
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AoC will provide you with nothing more than a distraction, bought it, played, bored to tears with it, the PVP is ok, still lots of class balance issues to be sorted as for griefing, dont make me laugh, you die respawn and get humped again, change res point or instance, either way you lose nothing.
Its not PVP as you know it in Eve, its not even close, as for lag and latency issues, AoC has its fair share.
If you like grind and liked WoW you might enjoy it, still early days yet so who knows what will happen, as for me I wont be going back, just not my cup of tea.
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Colonizing and Terraforming of Planets
Aphelion.
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the angry german kid vs AoC
pretty funny edit
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