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Mr Ignitious R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency	Posted - 2008.06.05 19:24:00 - [1] Edited by: Mr Ignitious on 05/06/2008 19:24:29 editting, accidentally pressed enter
Gilahan Mcortama A-L-O-N-E	Posted - 2008.06.05 19:41:00 - [2] Edited by: Gilahan Mcortama on 05/06/2008 19:45:51 You are going to need 80% resist or more across the board to do this mission with at least 6k shield or armor. the last few waves hit for 3k on all resists. Just use your mission ship and resist up with booster or repair mods. With like 80+ resist I still get hit for 500 to 700 on some of the waves. Edit: Did not realize there was a level 2 version which one are you doing?
Mr Ignitious R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency	Posted - 2008.06.05 19:45:00 - [3] yikes @@ thx for the post
Hanneshannes	Posted - 2008.06.05 19:49:00 - [4] Wtf? An Ishtar has that little tank, I thought it can easily do most, if not all lvl 4s and uber plexes? The only thing I ever lost in that cloud was a shuttle xD
Mr Ignitious R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency	Posted - 2008.06.05 20:13:00 - [5] oh the ishtar can tank, but the pulses of death from recon 3 of 3 just destroy instantly, it doesn't have the buffer to tank it. I do everything else, the blockade is easy, the assault, etc, because dodging turret fire is easy
Mire Stoude Cash Money Brothers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.06.05 20:19:00 - [6] Edited by: Mire Stoude on 05/06/2008 20:19:50 Stabber with some large shield extenders, overdrives and an AB. You should get through with some shields leftover.
Mastin Dragonfly Absolutely No Retreat Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.05 20:40:00 - [7] Originally by: Mr Ignitious oh the ishtar can tank, but the pulses of death from recon 3 of 3 just destroy instantly, it doesn't have the buffer to tank it. I do this mission in a vengeance...
Doytard the oNe Academy	Posted - 2008.06.05 20:40:00 - [8] throw an afterburner on and should be out of there before the big wave hits. lost my first destroyer to recon 3/3 started using an afterburner plate arbitrator after that with dual reps and a cap booster. Hi how are you
Hanneshannes	Posted - 2008.06.05 20:40:00 - [9] How much HP do they have? I do it in an ABing raven usually and it goes to like 35% shiled.
Mr Ignitious R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency	Posted - 2008.06.05 21:09:00 - [10] Originally by: Mastin Dragonfly Originally by: Mr Ignitious oh the ishtar can tank, but the pulses of death from recon 3 of 3 just destroy instantly, it doesn't have the buffer to tank it. I do this mission in a vengeance... maybe ur vengeance is HAX actually, what i think it is is that its omni damage, and i have a monstrous EXP hole, which i didnt fill to well. All these posts are awesome too, thx guys

Furb Killer The Peacekeeper Core	Posted - 2008.06.05 21:13:00 - [11] Edited by: Furb Killer on 05/06/2008 21:13:34 HACs having trouble with it, i can understand. But unless you were using a nano'ed ishtar i wonder how you can get alpha'd. I always just use my mission battleship with hardeners from last mission. Then one armor repper can easily keep up with the damage.
Hanneshannes	Posted - 2008.06.05 21:18:00 - [12] I wonder, are we actually talking about how to beat recon 3/3 xD
Bytaless	Posted - 2008.06.05 21:22:00 - [13] I have never ever had any trouble with this level 4 mission. My drake went down to 70% on the big wave. I actualy thought of trying in a shutle but it looks like t die trying. One question: if shuttle gets popped, will the pod also be destroyed if u don't get out?
Fist1	Posted - 2008.06.05 21:23:00 - [14] Edited by: Fist1 on 05/06/2008 21:23:49 I use my drake with 2 large shield extenders, onmi tank amps, 2 SPR's and 2 BCU's only thing I do is remove 1 extender and add a T1 afterburner to get to the gate quicker(time is money after all) I warp out with 85% shield. IDK why its giving you guys such trouble. I think I make it out before the last wave, but still, I have 85% shield left right before the last wave hits and I warp out just in time.
Mr Ignitious R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency	Posted - 2008.06.05 21:47:00 - [15] call me lazy, but i don't feel like cross training (atleast not caldari ) atm. What do you think of a myrm? i will also try a stabber cuz i have trained them up some
Hanneshannes	Posted - 2008.06.05 22:21:00 - [16] Edited by: Hanneshannes on 05/06/2008 22:22:34 Originally by: Mr Ignitious call me lazy, but i don't feel like cross training (atleast not caldari ) atm. What do you think of a myrm? i will also try a stabber cuz i have trained them up some Jesus lol, my Raven with 8k shields with about 70% resists accross the board does it w/o boosting a single time (It takes all 4 or 5 waves w/o dropping below 30% shield) Moar detail: Teh waves do: 4X800 (at 0% resists) NOTE: I'm not sure if there are 4 or 5 small waves. 1X3600 (at 0% resist) 6800 Damage altogether at 0% resists, so if you have more shield, armour or hull than 6800 (or more on all 3 combined) and 0% resists, you will survive that part. After the final big wave, there wont be any more damage. I've tried it in a shuttle but got instapopped by the first wave. The cloud wont damage your pod. I've tested that with 260M of implants at stake :P
Stephen HB Mystical Knights Legionnaire Services Ltd.	Posted - 2008.06.06 01:03:00 - [17] I ended up fitting a Hurricane to run 3/3, my Abaddon could just slowboat it to the gate but I ended up just going for coffee with the repper running. With overdrive/nano and a 10MN AB-2 I make ~900m/s, I may try a Stabber to get through even faster. ---------- Character creation guide. Originally by: Adonis 4174 You killed him to annoy him. He self-destructed to annoy you. You're annoyed thus he wins.
Wayson Trans Nebula Inc.	Posted - 2008.06.06 01:24:00 - [18] Cookie cutter drake fit with a 10mn ab does this fine. Good chance to grab a snack or refill the water glass, in my opinion. ___ Victory smiles upon those who anticipate the changes in the character of war, not upon those who wait to adapt themselves after they occur. ~Guilio Douhet
Hanneshannes	Posted - 2008.06.06 01:57:00 - [19] Is there a gate before u go into the cloud or do you warp right into it? Basically, can you use an MWD?
Mastin Dragonfly Absolutely No Retreat Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.06 04:41:00 - [20] Originally by: Hanneshannes Is there a gate before u go into the cloud or do you warp right into it? Basically, can you use an MWD? The damage scales with your sig radius, I take far less damage on the vengeance than I do on bigger ships. I'm sure you can't use MWDs but if you could it would prolly be suicide.

Tasko Pal Heron Corporation	Posted - 2008.06.06 04:45:00 - [21] Edited by: Tasko Pal on 06/06/2008 04:47:17 Originally by: Hanneshannes Is there a gate before u go into the cloud or do you warp right into it? Basically, can you use an MWD? It's deadspace. You get warped into a world of green hurt. Zoom to acceleration gate and use. And my experience has been that there's around 10 or so little waves. They start small, like 450 hp damage base (for a brutix-sized sig radius) and grow around 50 per wave. Then the big one is somewhere around 3600 as indicated above. You get plenty of warning for the last big wave so if you think you aren't going to make it, you should have time to warp out.
AKULA UrQuan Druuge Crimson Corporation	Posted - 2008.06.06 04:47:00 - [22] First time I did this mission. Moa with AB. Wasn't pretty but it worked. Second time I used a PvP fitted nano navy caracal I had around. Replaced the MWD with AB and had much cleaner run that time.
FT Diomedes Ductus Exemplo	Posted - 2008.06.06 05:06:00 - [23] I do this mission with my Ishtar all the time. 1x EANM II 1x Explosive II 1x DCU II 2x MAR II 2x ANP rigs Permarunning tank, never had any trouble with it, even without an AB. ------------ Improvize. Adapt. Overcome.
Neddy Fox Paxton Industries	Posted - 2008.06.06 09:03:00 - [24] The Myrm can do this easily, with a normal tank. Fit an AB if you want to do it quicker. BtW, before anyone asks : no, you cannot activate the gate in your pod, so going in with a shuttle, and then using the pod to complete the mission can't be done. (I tried).
EvilSpork Invicta.	Posted - 2008.06.06 10:12:00 - [25] you need a tank for recon 3/3? ive always done it in a my stupid raven, that works easily. recently did it in a curse without issue as well. idunno what you guys are doing but ive only ever died when trying that in a shuttle.. i thought that stage was a gimme..
Wet Ferret	Posted - 2008.06.06 10:59:00 - [26] I've never seen the big wave in this mission. I just use my Drake with an afterburner II, 2 overdrive IIs and 2 nanofiber IIs. Goes something like 650m/s. That's more than enough speed to make it before the big wave hits as I had much lower nav skills when I first did the mission. But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
Acidphreak	Posted - 2008.06.06 11:50:00 - [27] Did this mission with my drake a few times.... Wheres teh problem? 1 AB and go afk meanwhile. My shield had a recharge time of 240sec with 11k shield, and no resists fitted.
Shakka Zulu	Posted - 2008.06.06 11:56:00 - [28] Ok, I get it. HACs are relatively low in absolute HP compared to stuff like drakes and ravens. They do have nice resists however, and since this is omni-damage, no single gaping hole in your resists is too big a deal... you still have 3 other decent/good resists. The final wave does 3600 damage approximately, to 0 resists. For 3600 raw, omni-damage to kill you in an ishtar... well... at BASE armor and structure resists, you still would have had to be at like 40% armor for that wave to kill you. Why would you be flying around with either NO hardeners on/active, especially after you've seen yourself get nailed for a few hundred damage several times? Why would you not start repping your armor after these waves had knocked you down to under 50%? Why would you say "Please! Please, giant gas cloud of doom! Accept my ishtar as a sacrifice to your awesomeness!"?
Shakka Zulu	Posted - 2008.06.06 12:00:00 - [29] Originally by: Acidphreak Did this mission with my drake a few times.... Wheres teh problem? 1 AB and go afk meanwhile. My shield had a recharge time of 240sec with 11k shield, and no resists fitted. While I admit that I'm awed that someone could lose a hac to this mission... your insight into the matter is something quite beneath "keen". Good for you. You have a ship that has 5x the raw shield HP an ishtar has, with approximately equal resists when you factor in the drake ship bonus, and big passive regen... and you didn't die! Well while we're at it... "Zomg! My raven can, like, run level 4 missions even though when I try them in my osprey I just die! Its like, wow! My raven only has 15k shield and faction hardeners! WHy do my cruiser die!!!!!"
Crawler Solar Wind	Posted - 2008.06.06 12:03:00 - [30] its easy in a Hyperion with a AB with only 2 damage types over 80% _____________________________________________ yawnnnnn

Johraiken Fenris Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.06.06 12:32:00 - [31] My Ishtar: 2x mar II 1x EM n-type 1x Thermal n-type 1x Explosive n-type 10mn ab II 2x cap recharger II 1x Large cap battery II 2x CCC Never had problems with it. Johr
Sila Mas	Posted - 2008.06.06 12:42:00 - [32] Ran this yesterday in a Caracal with active hardened omni tank, 2 injectors and an afterburner (around 700 m/s). Shield went down to around 75%. -- .signature not found. Core dumped.
Hanneshannes	Posted - 2008.06.06 13:33:00 - [33] Originally by: Mastin Dragonfly Originally by: Hanneshannes Is there a gate before u go into the cloud or do you warp right into it? Basically, can you use an MWD? The damage scales with your sig radius, I take far less damage on the vengeance than I do on bigger ships. I'm sure you can't use MWDs but if you could it would prolly be suicide. If you put an MWD on a drake? Drake barely goes below 80% shield in that part.
Prisoner 257 Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.06.06 14:01:00 - [34] I ran it a few weeks ago (last week?) in a Proph with NO ab at a max 165m/s. 80 80 80 90 120 160 300 700 nothing after that. Single Armor repper running took care of my leisurely stroll through the green tornados of doom while I looked for something to kill.
Thermis	Posted - 2008.06.06 14:09:00 - [35] Rohk with 6x Miner 2s and 2 large shield transfers repping 2x Hulks, so I can mine all the Plagio/Pyroxeres in the 2nd pocket
Liisa hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.06.06 16:31:00 - [36] I used a stabber for this mission. Overdrives in the lows, afterburner II and shield extenders in the mids. Worked every time. Warp in, AB over to the other gate, warp out, finished. Of course I later used a fleet stabber for this simply because I could, but it didn't make much of a difference.
Kailiani	Posted - 2008.06.06 21:54:00 - [37] I run this in a passive cerb with nanos/od's in lows. 2x large extender, 2x invuln, AB in mids and I warp out with ~70% shields if I stay around to let the last wave hit me.
Zo5o Longcat is Long	Posted - 2008.06.08 17:08:00 - [38] Edited by: Zo5o on 08/06/2008 17:11:11 OK here's my impression of exactly what you face in Recon 3, level 4: Waves of 800 damage, four at a time, one of each damage type, every 10 seconds for nine repetitions, followed by a final set of four waves of 3600 damage, one of each damage type, for a grand total of 40 waves (10 of each damage type), and a grand total of 43,200 omnidamage. Are these figures correct? I realize it's possible to get a cruiser fast enough through this without popping, but as I sometimes like to play, um, not very sober, I'm inclined to do things like run my Thorax into the gate at a high speed and pop before I can align. So I'm thinking if I set up a Myrmidon to go 1500 m/s or faster, with more than 43,200 effective hp, I'm pretty much golden in this mission no matter how far away from sobriety I drift. Also, for anyone who wants to active tank this... if my numbers are correct, you'll need a 320 dps omnitank for the first 9 waves, with at least 14,400 effective HP of buffer to survive the last big one.
Shaemell Buttleson Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny	Posted - 2008.06.08 22:10:00 - [39] I use a Cerberus with 2 LSE 2's an Ivul field 2 and an afterburner. Shields have never dropped below 2/3. Try the same setup on an Ishtar and it would work the same.
Hugh Ruka Exploratio et Industria Morispatia	Posted - 2008.06.09 06:55:00 - [40] ok here's my part ... standard armor tank dominix without AB, LAR on auto and I watched TV while it slowboats to the gate ... --- SIG --- CSM: your support is needed !



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