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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.05.08 23:34:00 -
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Edited by: Stavros on 09/05/2004 00:21:00
Yeah so like I'm on IRC and Tornsoul is ranting about getting something that sounds like a cross between a spaghetti dish and a megathron anyway he yaps on for a bit and sounds like he is positively excited...
Anyway to cut a long story short, BIG corp are being given a souped up Megathron (Similiar in stature to imperial apoc or imperial arma) to give away in a lottery. I for one think this thing stinks like crap, there are advanced and veteran players all over eve clammering for this kind of bship and what do ccp do? They give it to some random lottery so that it can go to some noob who will probably either keep it in a hangar and never use it, or ebay it.
The other high class bships had to be earned using skill and intense teamwork on the parts of the pilots in the frigate tournament. This ship will end up with someone who doesn't deserve it and has recieved it purely on luck.
Hell there isn't even any RP reason to justify this crock.
The ship itself is not in the game database as of yet, but an email that I have seen states that ccp will be patching it into the game next week or later in time for the end of the lottery.
These kind of ships should be able to be earned by all players to give higher level veterans something to aim for besides more meanigless ganking.
Anyway yeah so the whole thing stinks and if you disagree with me ur wrong.
Thanks for reading and remember, please die!
Stavros
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Bexxly
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Posted - 2004.05.08 23:38:00 -
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 Originally by: Stavros
Anyway yeah so the whole thing stinks and if you disagree with me ur wrong.
How can you argue against that 
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Fret
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Posted - 2004.05.08 23:38:00 -
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/me agrees
Fret
"A milliary operation has no standard form - it goes by way of deception."
Cao Cao, Sun Tzu's Art of War
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2004.05.08 23:38:00 -
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ccp dont give a rats ass about vets stav or about people that are hardcore players who play hard
ccp likemost games seems to forget about power gamers the ones that push the games to the max
well done ccp you screwed up again
end your selves
STAN
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vecdran
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Posted - 2004.05.08 23:39:00 -
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I think I have a pacifier somewhere around here...
The Civilized Civire |
Xavier Cardde
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Posted - 2004.05.08 23:39:00 -
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I really doubt its an unlisted ship...
Its most likely a Megathron with all tech 2 and named equip or something.
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.05.08 23:41:00 -
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Edited by: Stavros on 08/05/2004 23:43:59
Its a Bougnisarin Megathron, ive seen the email, it will be patched in next week or before the lottery ends and it is not a normal megathron.
Also pls note this is not directed against BIG, they have a nice little lottery and stuff going on. Ok good got that sorted...
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fras
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Posted - 2004.05.08 23:43:00 -
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Competitions are nice and they should continue, but they are elitist and everyone should get a stab at a nice prize once in a while.
I would have thought something a bit more imaginative could be done, but there's nowt wrong with it really.
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.05.08 23:44:00 -
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Something more imaginative like say hmmm I dunno.. Maybe a frigate tournament that rewards pilot skill and team tactics? ¼_¼
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hellwarrior
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Posted - 2004.05.08 23:45:00 -
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It has has 500mm pasta cannons -.-
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hellwarrior
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Posted - 2004.05.08 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: Stavros
Something more imaginative like say hmmm I dunno.. Maybe a frigate tournament that rewards pilot skill and team tactics? ¼_¼
That might actually mean CCP would have to give it to a skilled person, stop kidding yourself -.-;;
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Therax
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Posted - 2004.05.08 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: Stavros
Yeah so like I'm on IRC and Tornsoul is ranting about getting something that sounds like a cross between a spaghetti dish and a megathron anyway he yaps on for a bit and sounds like he is positively gizzing...
Do yourself a favour Stav, if you have a legitimate point to make it shouldnt require any exageration on your part, the above is a gross exageration, Torn dropped some hints, a rant, i think not, and whatever about gizzing, thats an interesting assumption.
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Anyway to cut a long story short, BIG corp are being given a souped up Megathron (Similiar in stature to imperial apoc or imperial arma) to give away in a lottery. I for one think this thing stinks like crap, there are advanced and veteran players all over eve clammering for this kind of bship and what do ccp do? They give it to some random lottery so that it can go to some noob who will probably either keep it in a hangar and never use it, or ebay it.
Again with the needless exageration, "some random lottery"
1) how many lotterys are there currently running in the eve universe ?
2) how many of them are well known for being legit ?
3) how many of them are having a 1 year anniversary and thus being the longest running player event in eve to date ?
again if you have a point, stick to facts, there should be no need for exageration to prove it, if you have one.
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The other high class bships had to be earned using skill and intense teamwork on the parts of the pilots in the frigate tournament. This ship will end up with someone who doesn't deserve it and has recieved it purely on luck.
True, i know i competed, we came second place and whatever we got was earned, some skill some luck, was an event it was fun, got people involved, this is doing the same. Its honouring a long running player run event, the only one of its kind in eve.
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Hell there isn't even any RP reason to justify this crock.
Well bit early to make assumptions like this, RP is well made up, so having an RP reason to justify something is hardly solid gound is it ? you can just make one up, and your currently in no position to know whether there will or will not be an RP justification for it.
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The ship itself is not in the game database as of yet, but an email that I have seen states that ccp will be patching it into the game next week or later in time for the end of the lottery.
These kind of ships should be able to be earned by all players to give higher level veterans something to aim for besides more meanigless ganking.
Every player has a chance of getting it, buy a ticket.
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Anyway yeah so the whole thing stinks and if you disagree with me ur wrong.
Well thought out and logical reasonable statement, thats sarcasm by the way.
-Morbeis
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Xavier Cardde
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Posted - 2004.05.08 23:49:00 -
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ill beleive it when i see it.
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YuuKnow
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Posted - 2004.05.08 23:51:00 -
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"But I'm older" or "Senority Rule" does not apply to Eve. Sometimes things should be organized so that the little guy has a chance.
Que Sera, Sera.
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Kirja Delantae
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Posted - 2004.05.08 23:53:00 -
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Why are you whining about this Stav?
When someone does get it, you can guarantee that there will be insanely jealous groups, ie m0o, desperate to destroy it simply because it's "different".
onoz! People known for doing stuff in big alliances aren't automatically getting something!
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.05.08 23:54:00 -
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Edited by: Stavros on 08/05/2004 23:55:48
Xavier believe what the nice man from BIG types if you don't believe me.
And just for the record there have been lots of other lottery attempts in eve but not many have made it off the ground.
Anyhow my arguement was legitamate and well presented in my usual enigmatic style of textual intercourse.
Don't throw the dummy out of the pram just cos I blew your little secret a couple days early, I mean geez I even said it was not a flame post directed at you or your corp.
Its not like I said your corp only got the ship cos its chock full of ISD people or something stupid like that, infact I never said anything about BIG, so just chill out and allow people their opinions and discussion about topics without jumping in with your asbestos underpants on, k?
And remember I am right.
EDIT: And there I was thinking nobody loved me on the forums anymore and I have my VERY own alt troll, aww this is such a speshul moment for me...
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Amin
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Posted - 2004.05.08 23:55:00 -
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Edited by: Amin on 08/05/2004 23:57:17
Originally by: YuuKnow
"But I'm older" or "Senority Rule" does not apply to Eve. Sometimes things should be organized so that the little guy has a chance.
Que Sera, Sera.
Agreed. Also long standing players will have an advantage, ISK, im sure whoever gets it would be willing to part with the ship for the right price 
edit: grammer 
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vecdran
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Posted - 2004.05.08 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: Stavros
Edited by: Stavros on 08/05/2004 23:55:48
And remember I am right.
Everytime you say that I have the urge to ignore you more and more.
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.05.08 23:57:00 -
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Sadly ships like this, when given an ISK value become entirely useless.
The Golden Magnate sold for nigh on 1billion isk and we all know what happened to that, how could any corp justify that kind of expenditure whilst trying to maintain a risk/reward balance?
Bearing in mind that the Magnate was a frigate you can imagine the price tag on a bship such as this and what you have is essentially a large flying waste of isk.
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.05.08 23:57:00 -
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Originally by: vecdran
Originally by: Stavros
Edited by: Stavros on 08/05/2004 23:55:48
And remember I am right.
Everytime you say that I have the urge to ignore you more and more.
yet still you feel some compulsion to reply to my thread, strange that ¼_¼
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Therax
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Posted - 2004.05.09 00:08:00 -
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And just for the record there have been lots of other lottery attempts in eve but not many have made it off the ground.
Anyhow my arguement was legitamate and well presented in my usual enigmatic style of textual intercourse.
Yes but i refer you back to my original questions, how many meet those criteria, none even come close.
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Don't throw the dummy out of the pram just cos I blew your little secret a couple days early, I mean geez I even said it was not a flame post directed at you or your corp.
Not directed at me or my corp ? Lets see shall we :
The post is named "BIG Phat Lame", what kind of impression does that give ?
The post completely exagerates torn's few subtle hints, and makes some comment about him "gizzing" over something or other, what kind of impression does that give ?
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Its not like I said your corp only got the ship cos its chock full of ISD people or something stupid like that, infact I never said anything about BIG, so just chill out and allow people their opinions and discussion about topics without jumping in with your asbestos underpants on, k?
Im a person, im throwing in my opinion, yet you are saying i shouldnt and asking me not to jump in, which is pretty hippocritical considering your accusing me of doing exactly what you are doing to me. Im just adding my opinion, your entitled to yours as is everyone else. Im just setting the record straight as i see it with regards to some needless exageration and assumptions i saw in your original post.
-Morbeis
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.05.09 00:12:00 -
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You werent throwing in your opinion you launched a personal attack on me in an attempt to discredit my view point and also because your upset that the specifics of your great secret are plastered on the forums for all to see, by all means keep replying though, I have no beef with you and you keep bumping the thread.
Thx for your opinion!
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Agent Shield
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Posted - 2004.05.09 00:15:00 -
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Can we all get this new ship for free from CCP to have a raffle with? If CCP does give folks who want to have a raffle the ship, who gets the money from the ticket sales?
If CCP will donate one of these ships to me, I will hold a drawing, and charge no isk per ticket. If I charged for tickets, then I am stuck with the millions in revenue; what to do with all that isk from ticket sales? 
Skip the lottery/raffle; have CCP put everyone's name into a hat, and give the lucky winner the ship. You don't need a lottery that you have to spend isk on because some people won't know the lottery exists for this ship.
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.05.09 00:16:00 -
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Stavros = Maddox?
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.05.09 00:18:00 -
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Edited by: Stavros on 09/05/2004 00:19:29
A valid point really Agent shield, although I suspect there are reasons for BIG being awarded the ship. They have always run the lottery and they have a reputation for fairness.
Although I suspect most people will wrongly assume its because BIG is full of gms or some crazy thing like that ;P
OMG HAX SPLOIT!
EDIT: No but maddox is teh win
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Therax
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Posted - 2004.05.09 00:19:00 -
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You werent throwing in your opinion you launched a personal attack on me in an attempt to discredit my view point and also because your upset that the specifics of your great secret are plastered on the forums for all to see, by all means keep replying though, I have no beef with you and you keep bumping the thread.
Can you point me to where exactly i "launched a personal attack" on you ?
I pointed out some ( imho ) needless exageration, assumptions and unreasonable statements, i dont recall saying anything personal about you. I was just not happy with how you described torns actions, it was not a fair representation imo.
-Morbeis
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.05.09 00:21:00 -
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Ok I have now changed the offending comment to something a little less crude in an effort to please everyone and encourage reasonable and interested debate on the topic...
YES I R WIN OF PRIZE
Stavros
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.05.09 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: YuuKnow
"But I'm older" or "Senority Rule" does not apply to Eve. Sometimes things should be organized so that the little guy has a chance.
Que Sera, Sera.
You mean so that a guy making the 10 day trial can get something he can ebay for a BIG ammount of RL money?
Or what was your point?
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
Redwolf
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Posted - 2004.05.09 00:26:00 -
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Well Stav i see your point, but at least it isnt another minerII bpo fiasco.
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GeoNoSiS
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Posted - 2004.05.09 00:27:00 -
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Anyway yeah so the whole thing stinks and if you disagree with me ur wrong.
Thanks for reading and remember, please die!
Stavros
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.05.09 00:30:00 -
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Hrm.
I don't know what anyone is mad about. I mean, c'mon, t2 is given out via lottery, and that has run flawlessly, right?
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(that is sarcasam for those of you who have a hard time recognizing)
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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YuuKnow
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Posted - 2004.05.09 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: dalman
Originally by: YuuKnow
"But I'm older" or "Senority Rule" does not apply to Eve. Sometimes things should be organized so that the little guy has a chance.
Que Sera, Sera.
You mean so that a guy making the 10 day trial can get something he can ebay for a BIG ammount of RL money?
Or what was your point?
My point was.....
"Sometimes things should be organized so that the little guy has a chance.
Que Sera, Sera"
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.05.09 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: YuuKnow
Originally by: dalman
Originally by: YuuKnow
"But I'm older" or "Senority Rule" does not apply to Eve. Sometimes things should be organized so that the little guy has a chance.
Que Sera, Sera.
You mean so that a guy making the 10 day trial can get something he can ebay for a BIG ammount of RL money?
Or what was your point?
My point was.....
"Sometimes things should be organized so that the little guy has a chance.
Que Sera, Sera"
Ah, I fully see your point now.
It makes PERFECT SENCE.
The Gallante Federation will make one single edition of an improved megathron, the flagship of their navy, and then hand it out to a random guy who isn't gallante, can't pilot the ship yet, and probably never will learn how to use a battleship in combat.
"It's all clear now"
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.05.09 00:46:00 -
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Yes dalman didn't you hear, thats what all the best militaries of the world do, its MASSIVELY roleplaying to give your most powerful military assets away to random people.
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MooKids
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Posted - 2004.05.09 00:56:00 -
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Originally by: dalman
Ah, I fully see your point now.
It makes PERFECT SENCE.
The Gallante Federation will make one single edition of an improved megathron, the flagship of their navy, and then hand it out to a random guy who isn't gallante, can't pilot the ship yet, and probably never will learn how to use a battleship in combat.
"It's all clear now"
This sounds like something a typical Gallentean would do. Now if this was a Caldari ship being giving out, the Caldari State would have massive fleet battles to determine the winner.
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Leitari
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Posted - 2004.05.09 00:59:00 -
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Every player has a chance of getting it, buy a ticket.
You said it. I think its an outrage if CCP is rewarding a corporation by these means. They are literally giving you the money. BIG representitive: you havent answered the question. The money? Not everyone have equal chances in aquiring this ship. More money = more tickets right?? More tickets = more profits for BIG right? How can you justify this? I'd love to see an explanation from CCP.
Here, Only the silent survive.
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.05.09 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: Leitari
You said it. I think its an outrage if CCP is rewarding a corporation by these means. They are literally giving you the money. BIG representitive: you havent answered the question. The money? Not everyone have equal chances in aquiring this ship. More money = more tickets right?? More tickets = more profits for BIG right? How can you justify this? I'd love to see an explanation from CCP.
Indeed something I'd like to see answered.
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YuuKnow
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Posted - 2004.05.09 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: Stavros
Yes dalman didn't you hear, thats what all the best militaries of the world do, its MASSIVELY roleplaying to give your most powerful military assets away to random people.
Your concern for the roleplay integrity of Eve is admirable. I salute you.
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Turyleon Caddarn
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Posted - 2004.05.09 01:03:00 -
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i know a way to make this fair....
patch a copy of this ship into everyone's hangar :D
"I know this game, it's called Cat and Mouse. There's only one way to win......... Don't be the mouse." |
YuuKnow
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Posted - 2004.05.09 01:11:00 -
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Edited by: YuuKnow on 09/05/2004 01:20:48
Originally by: YuuKnow
Originally by: Stavros
Yes dalman didn't you hear, thats what all the best militaries of the world do, its MASSIVELY roleplaying to give your most powerful military assets away to random people.
Your concern for the roleplay integrity of Eve is admirable. I salute you.
hmmmmmm, I was being sarcastic there, but I got myself thinking...... maybe there is a uber way to distribute such a prize that is in line with role-play.
And no its not a tournament. When was the last time you saw George Bush and Bill Clinton battle it out in tanks to decide the presidency of the United States? Or when was the last time that you saw Boeing and Lockheed Martin duke it out in a dog fight to determine who got the multibillion dollar joint-strike-fighter contract?
Maybe the solution should be the simipliest one. The ship should go to the corporation that has the highest standing with the Gallente Federation. It could be offered to them at a one-time discount price and it could be placed in the hanger of that corps CEO.
That would be the most role-play orientated solution.
EDIT: I'll congratulate whoever gets it all the same, no matter........ (didn't want to seem like a whiner like many have a tendacy to do)
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Katchin
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Posted - 2004.05.09 01:15:00 -
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Hmmm:
Possible RP method:
Jove give BIG an old prototype they got bored off to raffle, proceeds go to the 'find the splatted jove guy' fund.
I would be VERY surprised and VERY annoyed if BIG get to keep the money, cos we are probably talking billions here.
To be fair, in the end their are going to be like 10 different parties, comprising of the richest in Eve (the carebear alliance members basically) that buy 1000gazillion tickets each and have the only chance. This doesnt reward Skill, or experience, and it doesnt give 'the little guy' a chance. Its simply an opportunity to leach a massive amount of cash from the very richest corps.
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2004.05.09 01:17:00 -
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Sorry, but I don't care about vets.
I hope that ccp does more things like this so that the players who havn't played since alpha have a chance at getting some of these extra's. New players have better things to do then worship false gods. Atleast I hope they do.
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Tyrenical
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Posted - 2004.05.09 01:17:00 -
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it would be nice if you could organize about 2000 people to cancel their accounts temporarily any time ccp did something like this, might brng them to their senses
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Striking you.
CEO of The Legitimate Businessmans Club
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Hakera
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Posted - 2004.05.09 01:23:00 -
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Taken from Tornsauls Lottery post in Events forum;
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BIG Lottery 1 year anniversary
Next round (the 27th) marks the 1 year anniversary of the BIG Lottery.
And we of course want to mark the occation by making that round 'special'.
Anyone ever heard of a "Bougnisarin Megathron"? 
Didnt think so - But that is what will be up for grabs at the 1 Year Anniversary BIG Lottery (#27).
hope its not true! No RP sense in this happening either as to why the Gallante would do this.
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MooKids
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Posted - 2004.05.09 01:25:00 -
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I say in protest of this, we all do our best to destroy this Megathron.
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Schizophrenia
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Posted - 2004.05.09 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: Pulgor
Sorry, but I don't care about vets.
I hope that ccp does more things like this so that the players who havn't played since alpha have a chance at getting some of these extra's. New players have better things to do then worship false gods. Atleast I hope they do.
I agree. There has already been a prize given based on the most experienced, aka Amarr Tournament. This time players like me, who have only been online for 4 or 5 months, a chance.
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Kirja Delantae
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Posted - 2004.05.09 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: MooKids
I say in protest of this, we all do our best to destroy this Megathron.
You'd do it, anyway.
Unless your Corp got it, obviously. In which case it would be another chance to brag.
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TheFatman
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Posted - 2004.05.09 01:26:00 -
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Who gets the isk from the lotto?
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2004.05.09 01:27:00 -
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big dont keep the isk every isk that is payed into it goesd into the lottery
if 70mill comes in for tickets the winner takes 70mill plus ship
big makes no money on their lottery
thing is ccp suck ass with this and the guy that said give something to the new guys
no offence but
give something to the people that have played most or all of the game and made it what it is today and made it so you have your loverly markets full when you joined the game
STAN
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.05.09 01:35:00 -
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the chance for this megathron to end up on ebay is the same, even if a vet gets it...
and i diagree that only vets should be able to get it, without newbs eve would not be here where it is today. maybe eve would be bankrupt?
"We brake for nobody"
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Macumba
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Posted - 2004.05.09 01:36:00 -
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In terms of crocks of s**t it's not quite up there with T2, but it's not far off. Just pray that they give the name away fast enough so that it can be destroyed before it reaches Ebay.
I just can't fathom CCP's logic when it comes to stuff like this. Decent stuff is rare enough in EVE without having anything really above par (ie. more than 5% different) turned into a unique item. F**k knows what'll happen when/if we get above Tech II. Lottery or trickled out 1 item per month?
Tech III Tier I Frigate Requirements
10k Megacyte
20k Isogen
300k Tritanium
1 x Jimmy Hoffa DNA
1 x Lord Lucan DNA
4 x Shergar Shoe
5 x Yeti Scalp
10 x Loch Ness Monster Scale
20 x R.A.M. Earhart Plane Tech
LORE
NO DROP
(This item also available via lottery.)
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2004.05.09 01:38:00 -
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Originally by: StiZum Hilidii
give something to the people that have played most or all of the game and made it what it is today and made it so you have your loverly markets full when you joined the game
Where I am my "Lovely" markets are hardly ever full. Don't act as if you preform a service and arn't "paid" for it. As was pointed out earlier, many things have been given to those who have the skill points, maybe it's time for joe blow to get something?
Personally I won't be entering the lottery because as cool as a unique Megathron would be, I don't need or want it. I just think that attaching a seniority system to a game is stupid. So far none have disproven this.
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YuuKnow
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Posted - 2004.05.09 01:48:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral IceBlock
the chance for this megathron to end up on ebay is the same, even if a vet gets it...
and i diagree that only vets should be able to get it, without newbs eve would not be here where it is today. maybe eve would be bankrupt?
Agreed. Noobs are essential. I've been playing since June, and have always tried hard to give noobs a helping hand. It wouldn't bother be a bit to see a prize given out to a less experienced player to help them in the game.
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Schizophrenia
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Posted - 2004.05.09 01:52:00 -
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Originally by: MooKids
I say in protest of this, we all do our best to destroy this Megathron.
Jealousy is indeed the ugliest of all emotions and pe nis envy is pathetic.
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.05.09 01:54:00 -
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Edited by: TornSoul on 09/05/2004 02:05:10
Edited by: TornSoul on 09/05/2004 01:56:25
Originally by: Hakera
Taken from Tornsauls Lottery post in Events forum;
Quote:
BIG Lottery 1 year anniversary
Next round (the 27th) marks the 1 year anniversary of the BIG Lottery.
And we of course want to mark the occation by making that round 'special'.
Anyone ever heard of a "Bougnisarin Megathron"?
Didnt think so - But that is what will be up for grabs at the 1 Year Anniversary BIG Lottery (#27).
hope its not true! No RP sense in this happening either as to why the Gallante would do this.
Patience - It's not called a Bougnisarin Megathron just for giggles.
You really should have included the below in your quote as well
Quote:
More info will be made available after mondays drawing of this (the 26th) round, but rest assured, thats one Megathron you'd like to get your hands on 
Watch out for a Special Edition of the BIG Games newsletter on monday.
I would also encourage everyone to pay attention to
"Next round (the 27th)..."
Which starts midnight between sunday 9th and monday 10th - aka. hasnt started yet.
Not a bad idea to head to the Events forum and read (#26B) BIG Games Newsletter, not to mention The BIG Lottery for further info on the lottery itself.
BIG Lottery
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.05.09 01:55:00 -
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This is interesting. CCP obviously decided to involve players in a major event, and ppl get mad because it seems like that corp will get a lot of money from it... I can understand the roleplay aspect aswell, weird to have such an ³bership on a lottery.
I don't envy the event team right now. It must be extremely difficult to get player corps involved in events like this and at the same time try to keep things fair. It's a step in the right direction though, and I hope that more similar things will take place.
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.05.09 01:56:00 -
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Originally by: Pulgor
Sorry, but I don't care about vets.
I hope that ccp does more things like this so that the players who havn't played since alpha have a chance at getting some of these extra's. New players have better things to do then worship false gods. Atleast I hope they do.
well i dont really care about you noobs, all most of you do is whine about how experienced players have the advantage..like wtf, we have the advantage cause we earned it,.
It should be the same here too, totally agree with stav on this. The megathron should be given out based on skill not some random denominator. Id perfer bs championships, but frig championships are a bit fairer on the noobs, not like a care..but it just quits out hundereds of them *****ing on the forums for days on end
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.05.09 01:57:00 -
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Edited by: Scorpyn on 09/05/2004 02:03:38
Originally by: TornSoul
Patience - It's not called a Bougnisarin Megathron just for giggles.
Wait a minute... does that mean that there is no ship?
Very similar to "bogus" to me...
Edit : hmm...
Edit2 : You got my attention
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Marsus Toth
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Posted - 2004.05.09 02:14:00 -
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2004.05.09 02:44:00 -
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Originally by: Tenacha Khan
well i dont really care about you noobs, all most of you do is whine about how experienced players have the advantage..like wtf, we have the advantage cause we earned it,.
It should be the same here too, totally agree with stav on this. The megathron should be given out based on skill not some random denominator. Id perfer bs championships, but frig championships are a bit fairer on the noobs, not like a care..but it just quits out hundereds of them *****ing on the forums for days on end
Mr.Khan, this isn't Counterstrike. No, read again: This isn't Counterstrike! I don't really care how "uber" you may or may not be. And I don't think that you're any kind of hero that should get exceptions based on being "uber." I'm sorry if that offends you... no wait, I'm not.
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Schizophrenia
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Posted - 2004.05.09 02:50:00 -
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Originally by: Pulgor
Originally by: Tenacha Khan
well i dont really care about you noobs, all most of you do is whine about how experienced players have the advantage..like wtf, we have the advantage cause we earned it,.
It should be the same here too, totally agree with stav on this. The megathron should be given out based on skill not some random denominator. Id perfer bs championships, but frig championships are a bit fairer on the noobs, not like a care..but it just quits out hundereds of them *****ing on the forums for days on end
Mr.Khan, this isn't Counterstrike. No, read again: This isn't Counterstrike! I don't really care how "uber" you may or may not be. And I don't think that you're any kind of hero that should get exceptions based on being "uber." I'm sorry if that offends you... no wait, I'm not.
Now, now boys, lets not make this personal. The last thing we need is a vets against noobs debate.
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Ris Dnalor
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Posted - 2004.05.09 03:13:00 -
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Edited by: Ris Dnalor on 09/05/2004 03:23:05
n/m it's not worth it. I agree with Stavros, though, for what it's worth.
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Katz
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Posted - 2004.05.09 03:35:00 -
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Edited by: Katz on 09/05/2004 03:49:05
Edited by: Katz on 09/05/2004 03:37:07
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii
big dont keep the isk every isk that is payed into it goesd into the lottery
if 70mill comes in for tickets the winner takes 70mill plus ship
big makes no money on their lottery
thing is ccp suck ass with this and the guy that said give something to the new guys
no offence but
give something to the people that have played most or all of the game and made it what it is today and made it so you have your loverly markets full when you joined the game
Sorry to burst your bubble Stiz, but BIG keeps 10% of the amount made by ticket sales. It's up on their site under lottery rules.
It may not be as much as people thought but it is money all the same that CCP is helping them aquire.
Edit: I've also uncovered that to date BIG has waved there 10% administration fees. Very honorable of them but I still don't agree with what CCP has done.
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2004.05.09 04:14:00 -
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Originally by: Ris Dnalor
Edited by: Ris Dnalor on 09/05/2004 03:23:05
n/m it's not worth it. I agree with Stavros, though, for what it's worth.
Well if you want to debate it further, look me up ingame.
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Kerosene
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Posted - 2004.05.09 04:44:00 -
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This whine will get nowhere though.
If pirates get the ship, they'll show off and eventually lose it very fast.
If honests get the ship, it'll end up in a hangar until sold.
If a loony gets the ship (read Gold Magnate), it'll get blown up by said pirates due to envy and jealousy.
If Stavros gets the ship we'll never hear the end of his kiddy speak.
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Kakalot
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Posted - 2004.05.09 05:09:00 -
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I'll make my point short.
Someone with the most isk(likely a vet/megacorp) is likely to win this lottery, resulting in getting the ship and making a nice profit out of it. Dont know for sure what random method BIG uses to determine the winner tho, but obviously more tickets equal more winning chance.
So nubs vs vet argument is false. A poor vet will lose, so will the nubs. Like if I'm the richest guy, I'd just create a nub character and enter the lotto, dont forget to transfer the isk of course 
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Krilos Nereth
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Posted - 2004.05.09 05:54:00 -
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As long as BIG doesn't get the ISK (ie, its a second prize, or a part of the grand prize), I have no problem with this. CCP would not be giving BIG any ingame advantage besides maybe some prestige. It's neat to involve the players in this sort of thing.
TornSoul has been around since beta, and has always been a stand-up individual. I trust him with this, and it seems CCP does too. I know I won't win, but I'll chip in my mil for a few tickets, and it will be neat to know that another unique ship will be flying around EVE.
PS: Whoever gets this ship, I want screenshots!
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Jadrut
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Posted - 2004.05.09 06:23:00 -
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Whats next? They release a mega super oogle chumba wumba blaster cannon V in large form on a random 2k pirate for the miners to collect?
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Dirk Daring
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Posted - 2004.05.09 07:06:00 -
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Most of you absolutly apall me. We have an individual that has given so much BACK to the community day in, day out for a year now. Nothing ever gained.
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii
big makes no money on their lottery
Does it for the community (Even those loud mouths that can only whine). Do you all realize the time commitment something like this involves? The countless questions and emails, the posts to keep you all informed. How about the database that must be administered? And guess what.....
Originally by: Katz
Edited by: Katz on 09/05/2004 03:49:05
Edited by: Katz on 09/05/2004 03:37:07
to date BIG has waved there 10% administration fees. Very honorable
....all for not one single isk....
Originally by: TornSoul
...If it wasnt for our gracious sponsor (FA), we'd be loosing a lot of ISK each time (because of the 50M ISK guarantee)...
....and has even lost money.
Stop. Being. Such. Damn. Crybabies.
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Kayinan Malrean
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Posted - 2004.05.09 08:23:00 -
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Originally by: StiZum Hilidii
ccp dont give a rats ass about vets stav or about people that are hardcore players who play hard
ccp likemost games seems to forget about power gamers the ones that push the games to the max
This tends to be a good thing for a mmorpg company in general, as it's the new players that bring them the cash, not the select few who stick around for longer. Yay for CCP for giving a rats ass about whinny oldies.
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Psychopath
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Posted - 2004.05.09 09:43:00 -
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This is another CCP move to give a rare item to a large carebear corp or hardcore miner.
We want to see a tournament that anyone can enter and fight to the death for a rare ship.
What about a cruiser or bs tournament CCP?
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Deadflip2
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Posted - 2004.05.09 10:00:00 -
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Originally by: Stavros
Edited by: Stavros on 09/05/2004 00:21:00
Yeah so like I'm on IRC and Tornsoul is ranting about getting something that sounds like a cross between a spaghetti dish and a megathron anyway he yaps on for a bit and sounds like he is positively excited...
Anyway to cut a long story short, BIG corp are being given a souped up Megathron (Similiar in stature to imperial apoc or imperial arma) to give away in a lottery. I for one think this thing stinks like crap, there are advanced and veteran players all over eve clammering for this kind of bship and what do ccp do? They give it to some random lottery so that it can go to some noob who will probably either keep it in a hangar and never use it, or ebay it.
The other high class bships had to be earned using skill and intense teamwork on the parts of the pilots in the frigate tournament. This ship will end up with someone who doesn't deserve it and has recieved it purely on luck.
Hell there isn't even any RP reason to justify this crock.
The ship itself is not in the game database as of yet, but an email that I have seen states that ccp will be patching it into the game next week or later in time for the end of the lottery.
These kind of ships should be able to be earned by all players to give higher level veterans something to aim for besides more meanigless ganking.
Anyway yeah so the whole thing stinks and if you disagree with me ur wrong.
Thanks for reading and remember, please die!
Stavros
never thought idd agree with you, but this is absolutely pefetic, they give a bs away for free to a corp that none are sure draw their loterys a fair way? ccp either pick it compeltely random out of the 3000 people that are online most often or organise somethign like the amarr frig battle.
if this is really gonna happen itdd be absolutely pefetic.
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Judicator
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Posted - 2004.05.09 10:21:00 -
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I have agreed with Stavros before and this time wont be different.
What a load of horsemanur. Wtf?
At least in the Amarr Championship you needed some bloody skills and the balls to risk your stuff.
And why the hell would the Gallentean Federation give their newest and best ship away in a freakin' lottery? I maen, it might land in the hands of a filthy Caldari. Wtf, who will you roleplay that?
Another lame tard decision by CCP. I still remember the Niblung Particle Bore miner that could bull 149/150m3 and then got pulled out of the game and replaced with unlimited miner ii BP's.
That was the mother of screw ups.
Oh well, hopefully someone worthy of it will get it. Tbf, I don't give a rats arse about noobs. The vet's earned their place in the world, noobs have still to earn theirs!
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mahhy
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Posted - 2004.05.09 10:21:00 -
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Holy crap. Would everyone like some cheese with their own specific whine?
- I've played Eve longer than you, gimme special consideration 
- CCP are being unfair by helping BIG! (have you even considered the fact that CCP might have thought about that beforehand?)
- This should be awarded through battle! (why?)
- Theres no RP reason behind this! (because you don't know of one means there isn't one?)
You want a chance to own the damn thing, enter the lottery. And stop your whining, as someone else pointed out all you long time players can just buy a lot of tickets.
Funniest thread I've read in a long time... all the so called hardcore pirates crying in their soup 
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Faramir
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Posted - 2004.05.09 10:31:00 -
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I can just see a megathron like that being used to mine 
I hope CCP will at least give us some information about this megathron and why it will be given to BIG to "give away".
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Brunis
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Posted - 2004.05.09 10:32:00 -
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To be honest i think this stinks.
BIG's lottery might be legit, but i can't see why they should earn alot of isk just because they ran a lottery for a year, this is the second time a large corp earns alot of isk thanks to CCP.
Can people remember the first miner 2 BP?
Lets not have a thing like that again please 
This is not an attack at BIG!
/Brunis
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.05.09 10:33:00 -
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Idea
Make it an Event and that way we can all take part.
Right? Right?
Hello?
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Brunis
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Posted - 2004.05.09 10:35:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Psychopath
We want to see a tournament that anyone can enter and fight to the death for a rare ship.
What about a cruiser or bs tournament CCP?
You want a tournament that everyone can be in and still have it to be BS's fighting it out?
Not everyone have enough isk for BS, not counting the new one they have to get if shot down.
/Brunis
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qrac
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Posted - 2004.05.09 10:47:00 -
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ppl whined about the amarr championships, ppl whine about this event and ppl will whine about the next event.
what ever ccp decide to they can't please everybody. BIG's lottery is the oldest running player event in eve, it's as old as eve ffs. they deserve some credit and i doubt they'll keep ANY of the money.
u all whine about wanting more events.. here u have one. stop whining and enjoy the game.
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KIAHicks
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Posted - 2004.05.09 11:04:00 -
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I've not heard anything about it, so I don't want to rant too much :P but tbh why don't they make something where it's the prize of an event? I mean a real event, where people can go do stuff like the frigate wars one. Not a in the news only event where you don't even have to login to take part or win.
It doesn't have to be a fighting event either, it could be a hunt down the "abandonded" battleship event. CCP Stick polaris member in a certain system. Everyone tracks this guys down, asks in local which constellation the next polaris guy is and his name. Then track him down and so on. Until you find the final polaris guy.
If each polaris guy has a secure can anchoured next to him with a certain keyword as the label, you would have to write down all the keywords and use those added together with a space in between to unlock the secure container in yet another system. This container contains a single bookmark to the new battleship which was abandoned at a midwrap.
So you have a nice large event spread across multiple systems/constellations even several regions. Anyone can take part. Your skills using the scanner rahter than random planet/moon/belt hopping will get you an advantage but not prevent others winning.
Nobody knows the route in advance, but it may require bypassing set pirate blockades etc
Now thats an event imo. So long as they don't say it starts in xyz system at this time, it should be it starts in xyz constellation. That way everyone is spread out over multiple systems. In fact, think this through more, and replace the polaris guys with secure cans that you can open but not take loot out of (if this sort of object can be made) then you can open it and read the keyword as well as the next destination constellation.
Ok, so the above will require a little more planning and maybe some extra objects developing, but I'd love to take part in it and I'm sure many others would too.
It could be anything. Just not a lottery.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2004.05.09 11:06:00 -
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more info required - still at first glance it's a pretty lame way to introduce a unique ship into the game 
*loony* \o/
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cashman
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Posted - 2004.05.09 11:15:00 -
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Cookie, Mr mo0guy?
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Lao Tzu
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Posted - 2004.05.09 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Brunis
Originally by: Psychopath
We want to see a tournament that anyone can enter and fight to the death for a rare ship.
What about a cruiser or bs tournament CCP?
You want a tournament that everyone can be in and still have it to be BS's fighting it out?
Not everyone have enough isk for BS, not counting the new one they have to get if shot down.
Well since there giving away a bs, maybe only having bs pilots able to compete would make sense, it would lessen the chance of the thing ending up on ebay a bit.
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Ulendar
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Posted - 2004.05.09 12:05:00 -
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heres what will happen to the pastathron..
Some nub will win it...who can't fly it...
He will then train to be able to fly it.
Then he will want money to insure it... So naturally he will use it to mine with ^^
Then he will go to a .4 system to mine rare ore...
Some pirate will warp into his belt and hold the pastathron for randsom...
Then three things can happen...seeying as the nub has no money...
Either:
- Pirate joe doesn't realize its a special thron and blows it up
- Pirate joe realizes its a special thron but is forced to blow it up because the nub has no money
- Pirate joe realizes its a special thron and makes nub eject
So there is a 1 out of 3 chance that the thron will find its way to more worthy hands..
Originally by: cashman
It's time for Eris to get a clue. CCP should make a statement about this.
It's the exact same things as what Zombie did, you may not attack in "safe-areas" (empire/within sentry range) without loosing your ship.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.05.09 12:27:00 -
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I have this terrible feeling it will be the new breed of super-carebear who will win it.
Someone like cashman, for example.
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cashman
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Posted - 2004.05.09 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert
I have this terrible feeling it will be the new breed of super-carebear who will win it.
Someone like cashman, for example.
\o/
I'd take good care of it. I'd prolly use it for mining in 0.5+
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.05.09 12:30:00 -
[87]
2 mwd's and 7 warp core stabs too?
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Oveur
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Posted - 2004.05.09 12:34:00 -
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After gathering all the information from TornSoul and the person responsible inhouse (he's in Africa), I am allowing this to procede, according to our new policies regarding increased player participation in prime fiction and full support for player events.
The intention behind this is to show support to an player event thas has been held regularly for almost a year now and to show the community that we will further support player events in the future.
However, due to the questions raised here regarding favoritism and so everyone have a fair chance, I'm taking the following measures:
A) No BIG member is allowed to participate in the lottery.
B) BIG does not profit from this in any way. I will audit them myself to ensure this
C) There is a maximum limit of 1000 tickets pr. character (each @1000 ISK = 1M ISK)
D) We'll be giving an Imperial Apocalypse, not the Bougnisarin Megathron. The Mega was slated for another deployment.
E) If I see that ship on eBay, I'll trash it faster than you can say PayPal.
Now, that being said, you should get a ticket, you might get lucky
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Alastra
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Posted - 2004.05.09 12:35:00 -
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The second price could be a new model of suicide kestrel to gank the first price.
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.05.09 19:59:00 -
[90]
this is a good thing! 
"We brake for nobody"
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.05.09 20:07:00 -
[91]
Oveur is turning into my favourite Dev.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
XpoHoc
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Posted - 2004.05.09 20:11:00 -
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If it's true, then it's just another stupid way to introduce something new.
CCP made/makes a great game, but they really lack on idea when it's about the introduction of new features or items into the game.
Such a special ship should be a reward for a RP mission or for an event, not a stupid lottery.
Actually I shouldn't care about that at all, I have never ever participated in an event because of the lack of info about them and because I have to stick to 0.0 space... of course again because CCP had the great idea to introduce their "new sec status system" by... simply putting it into the patch without any warning.
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Jim Hawkins
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Posted - 2004.05.09 20:20:00 -
[93]
Lottery winner gets state of the art battleship!
It sounds so plausible - what's your beef?
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MooKids
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Posted - 2004.05.09 20:41:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Oveur
E) If I see that ship on eBay, I'll trash it faster than you can say PayPal.
I can see that some griefer would make a fake posting on eBay just to **** off the real winner, so be careful you know that the auction is "legit" first.
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Znaei
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Posted - 2004.05.09 20:45:00 -
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BIG has done great things for the Eve community. Always honorable and fair.
BUT...
I would much rather like to see an event that only Gallente can attend to, much like the Amarrian championship. A special edition of a Megathron is too big of a prize to give to a random lotteryticket holder.
Later on I would like to see somekind of Caldari and Minmatar event, in order to give out a special edition Raven and Tempest.
On the other hand..
BIG truly deserves to get a special item for the 1 yr lottery anniversary, they have done a great job at it. But a Megathron is a bit over the limit IMHO.
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WarHound
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Posted - 2004.05.09 20:52:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Oveur
After gathering all the information from TornSoul and the person responsible inhouse (he's in Africa), I am allowing this to procede, according to our new policies regarding increased player participation in prime fiction and full support for player events.
The intention behind this is to show support to an player event thas has been held regularly for almost a year now and to show the community that we will further support player events in the future.
However, due to the questions raised here regarding favoritism and so everyone have a fair chance, I'm taking the following measures:
A) No BIG member is allowed to participate in the lottery.
B) BIG does not profit from this in any way. I will audit them myself to ensure this
C) There is a maximum limit of 1000 tickets pr. character (each @1000 ISK = 1M ISK)
D) We'll be giving an Imperial Apocalypse, not the Bougnisarin Megathron. The Mega was slated for another deployment.
E) If I see that ship on eBay, I'll trash it faster than you can say PayPal.
Now, that being said, you should get a ticket, you might get lucky
You can't go and give away an imperial Apoc!. Common is there no roleplay aspect left in EVE.
The imperial issued amarrian ships were a prize in an amarring succession. This amazing craft could go to some unskilled carebear minmie miner.
I had to train for months and campaign throughtout the entire community to earn an Imperial Armageddon which is one step down from the apoc.
Now I am not happy about the fact that its being gambled off but you could at least make it a differnt ship and I know your not going to listen to me so if this elegant amarring craft gets in the hand of a minmie im starting an amarring revolution.
Also just to follow your own story line and the way you have developed your fictional characters the Amarrian emperor would never allow this ship to get in the hands of BIG corp.
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.05.09 20:54:00 -
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Edited by: dalman on 09/05/2004 21:10:09
This is still extremely stupid.
So, it's changed to an imperial apoc instead. \o/
"Designed by master starship engineers and constructed in the royal shipyards of the Emperor himself, the imperial issue of the dreaded Apocalypse battleship is held in awe throughout the Empire. Given only as an award to those who have demonstrated their fealty to the Emperor in a most exemplary way, it is considered a huge honor to command, let alone own, one of these majestic and powerful battleships. These metallic monstrosities see to it that the word of the Emperor is carried out among the denizens of the Empire and beyond."
So, young Caldari son, what did you do for the emperor to earn that?
Ehhh? Emperor? There is an emperor?
:stunned: mmm, k, next question: what are you gonna use it for?
Use it? I don't know. I can't fly anything bigger than an indy yet, so it's prolly gonna take 6 months before I have the skillpoints required. But when I can, I think I'm gonna use it to mine some scordite in a 0.9 system. Maybe head to one of the starting systems and show it to the newbies there.
:chocked: Ehm, so, how did you get this ship
I killed a 1k NPC in a 0.8 system and sent the money to some guy and a weak later he just gave it to me
:ends himself:
So, the idea is to give out more unique items.
That's a GOOD idea.
But why the **** give out a battleship.
Hand out some copy of the Gallante Luxuary Yatch or something. A unique item, yet it would in no way interupt any RP or logic.
:edit:
Oh, and of course I'll enter the competition myself.
And if I would win, I'll start spamming the forums and trade channel immediately to find some rich ****** who wants to buy it.
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Asharee Intrefer
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Posted - 2004.05.09 20:59:00 -
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Edited by: Asharee Intrefer on 09/05/2004 21:00:52
dalman said just what I was about to post. Handing out a unique item in a lottery that is arranged by a player corp is a nice idea, but the prize being a battleship is a bit off (the Imperial Apoc more than a special Megathron). Something more civilian and more or less ornamental is better, like an Opux, or even a special "Opyx Platinum" or something to make it a bit newer than the old Opux.
But still, I think it's good to see that CCP give support to an established player event like the BIG lottery.
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Atandros
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Posted - 2004.05.09 21:00:00 -
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For what it's worth, I largely agree with Znaei. It's commendable to recognize a longstanding player tradition such as the BIG lottery, but not like this, as it makes no sense at all. Why would the discriminating, bigoted, elitistic Amarr Empire give out one of their most prized ships, that only the worthiest and very best of champions have received as reward for their service to the Empire, in a galaxywide lottery (sponsored by a neutral corporation, no less!)?
I have no idea what the Bougnisarin Megathron is (although I assume it's something along the lines of the Imperial Apoc), so I can't comment there.
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.05.09 21:04:00 -
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Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 09/05/2004 21:08:11
well, the guys that already have the Imperical Apocs doesnt use them either so why should a newb use it if he gets it?
its like, oh no, a newb got it.. he will never us it ever, and when he does he will just use it to mine in 1.0.. oooh the pain...
while the "1337" dudes will sure use it!! right...
"We brake for nobody"
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.05.09 21:05:00 -
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Edited by: ProphetGuru on 09/05/2004 21:08:00
how bout instead of an imperial apoc, you give out a ship of choice.. ie-
I win. I req a tempest with 6 1400scouts 2 heavy siege all named/t2 loot in med/low slots.
Jim Raynor wins, he gets a raven loaded our with siege arby's 425protos and t2 med/low stuff.
Some pie dude wins he gets an apoc loaded with modulated tach's etc etc etc
"The BIG Dream Battleship Lottery"
This way, you don't have to worry over the rp aspect if you are ccp, it's STILL a VERY valuable prize package, and.... it would get used :). (well, least if I won it would get used:) )
Just my 2c.
p.s. If you use my idea I want 1 free tkt. :)
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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sableye
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Posted - 2004.05.09 21:05:00 -
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I'm pretty happy that it's going this way, it gives evryone a chance of winning, now only if you had'nt complained we would still be getting a megathron, anyway if I win I'll sell it to buy a megathron.
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Jorlin
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Posted - 2004.05.09 21:07:00 -
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hmm...looks like Stav made a good job of promotion to the lottery. i for myself might have missed it ;)
but i can understand what makes him and others upset. but, if the Devs decide to do it that way...
it's not like the skies will fall and Stav will be made the Emperor at last.
it's just an imperial apoc which will make a shiny new headline "Imperial Apoc DOWN" for m0o ;)
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.05.09 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Jorlin
it's not like the skies will fall and Stav will be made the Emperor at last.
it's just an imperial apoc which will make a shiny new headline "Imperial Apoc DOWN" for m0o ;)
Seriously, making Stavros emperor is more logical than handing out an imperial apoc in a lottery.
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voogru
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Posted - 2004.05.09 21:15:00 -
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Edited by: voogru on 09/05/2004 21:22:18
Originally by: dalman
Hand out some copy of the Gallante Luxuary Yatch or something. A unique item, yet it would in no way interupt any RP or logic.
Anything but that, I auctually own one of them (only one in the game ATM), wouldnt be any fun if it was no longer the only one in the game
One note, Its "Gallente Luxury Yacht".
Either way, I'm not going to say much else cause people may think I'm biased (well, I am in BIG).
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Shogo
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Posted - 2004.05.09 21:26:00 -
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Starvos,
You're a typical high level, "power playing" pompous idiot, that thinks the entire game should center around you and your ilk. Do all of us a favour and stfu for once. It makes me laugh every time I see posts like this by you so-called "power gamers", where you spout off your opinions about how you think every thing in this game SHOULD be...and when things don't go how YOU think they should...these boards become your personal, virtual temper tantrum! Get a grip!
If this is truly a "random" lottery, then YOU have just as much of a chance at that ship, than EVERYONE else...OH wait a sec...that's what you're so peeved about! You think that YOU...and players like you, should have MORE of a right than others...then it's fair, right starvos?...LOL!!!
Fool.
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MooKids
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Posted - 2004.05.09 21:30:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Shogo
Starvos,
You're a typical high level, "power playing" pompous idiot, that thinks the entire game should center around you and your ilk. Do all of us a favour and stfu for once. It makes me laugh every time I see posts like this by you so-called "power gamers", where you spout off your opinions about how you think every thing in this game SHOULD be...and when things don't go how YOU think they should...these boards become your personal, virtual temper tantrum! Get a grip!
If this is truly a "random" lottery, then YOU have just as much of a chance at that ship, than EVERYONE else...OH wait a sec...that's what you're so peeved about! You think that YOU...and players like you, should have MORE of a right than others...then it's fair, right starvos?...LOL!!!
Fool.
You tell him alt!
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sim2killa
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Posted - 2004.05.09 21:32:00 -
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Quote:
You think that YOU...and players like you, should have MORE of a right than others...then it's fair, right starvos?...LOL!!!
Yep that would be fair
now plz drink bleach
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.05.09 21:35:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Shogo
Starvos,
You're a typical high level, "power playing" pompous idiot, that thinks the entire game should center around you and your ilk. Do all of us a favour and stfu for once. It makes me laugh every time I see posts like this by you so-called "power gamers", where you spout off your opinions about how you think every thing in this game SHOULD be...and when things don't go how YOU think they should...these boards become your personal, virtual temper tantrum! Get a grip!
If this is truly a "random" lottery, then YOU have just as much of a chance at that ship, than EVERYONE else...OH wait a sec...that's what you're so peeved about! You think that YOU...and players like you, should have MORE of a right than others...then it's fair, right starvos?...LOL!!!
Fool.
You sir, have missed the point.
The problem is that it's random.
Such a HUGE RP history in the game and then CCP just waste it all
Originally by: voogru
Anything but that, I auctually own one of them (only one in the game ATM), wouldnt be any fun if it was no longer the only one in the game
One note, Its "Gallente Luxury Yacht".
ROFLMAO.
And that would be an argument for giving out the flagship of the amarrian navy to a random guy?
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Aaron Rex
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Posted - 2004.05.09 21:38:00 -
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People, Devs, all, if you think a super BS is too big a prize (no pun intended  ) just do what I mentioned in the Events forum: Have the special CCP prize an interceptor of your choice. The winner can either sell it if he doesn't want it, (more money), or use the rest of his winnings in kitting it up right.
This way you will give a relatively special prize but one that a) won't be Uber special, b) won't upset anyones sence of RP, c) won't upset the game economics (eg. WTS: UBER BS @ 100bill. convo me).
If you want a realy special prize, but one that is not over the top, how about one of the other new elite frigs (bombers, black ops, whatever). They are planned to be released to the public in the next few weeks/months, so it'll give the winner a *slight* edge but without giveing him something that should be reserved for very special occasions.
Aaron Rex - Remember the Scordite...
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voogru
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Posted - 2004.05.09 21:40:00 -
[111]
Edited by: voogru on 09/05/2004 21:41:38
Originally by: dalman
Originally by: voogru
Anything but that, I auctually own one of them (only one in the game ATM), wouldnt be any fun if it was no longer the only one in the game
One note, Its "Gallente Luxury Yacht".
ROFLMAO.
And that would be an argument for giving out the flagship of the amarrian navy to a random guy?
I have mixed feelings about it too, but I dont have a better suggestion. The Luxury Yacht is a totally useless ship, other than it looks purty. And its so weak, your crazy to try and fly it. A ship that can be used in combat and is rare is a much better prize IMO.
Another note, ProphetGuru's idea seems pretty good.
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vecdran
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Posted - 2004.05.09 21:46:00 -
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Jeez, there's enough crying in this thread to suck every K-Mart in California dry of pacifiers.
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WarHound
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Posted - 2004.05.09 21:52:00 -
[113]
No one is really crying. It is a dumb idea and the devs are about to make a huge mistake. I think giving them a unique prize is a cool idea but it should be a good prize not something that is going to **** up everything they have spent so much time developing.
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Jadrut
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Posted - 2004.05.09 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Idea
Make it an Event and that way we can all take part.
Right? Right?
Hello?
no one listens to you, wait......
they dont listen to me either *sob*
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Galk
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Posted - 2004.05.09 21:56:00 -
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Im buying.
Ohh and stavros for the emporor too while im at it.
"Thanks for reading and remember, please die!"
And you &^%$ know why.
Rock on stav
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.05.09 21:56:00 -
[116]
Originally by: ProphetGuru
Edited by: ProphetGuru on 09/05/2004 21:08:00
Jim Raynor wins, he gets a raven loaded our with siege arby's 425protos and t2 med/low stuff.
i already have that though.
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Svodairs
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Posted - 2004.05.09 22:03:00 -
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I've been playing since release, but gave away my character a month ago to take a break.
I came back, and had to start over cause the guy (who said my account would be available to me when i came back) will not answer my mails (no shock).
But, my point is this:
I'm glad they are doing it this way, I've never thought that because i've played longer than someone else, that i should should be given any sort of advantage.
It would be crap if i had no chance at this just because i can't yet fly it.
I want, I want, I want, yeesh.
I want a fair lottery, good luck to all, and keep up the hard work BIG !
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Oveur
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Posted - 2004.05.09 22:05:00 -
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This is going through like this. Players participation in prime fiction and ccp's participation in player events is here to stay. Never, ever, will everybody be happy about it. Come to think of it, I can't remember a single thing that everyone has been happy about, and I assume there never will be.
Everybody can participate in this. Go buy a ticket.
Oh, and why he has an Imperial Apoc? How on earth someone else than an Amarr would be allowed to get it? You'll read about it in the news. Until then, I'd chill on the assumptions and speculation, because thats all they are, assumptions and speculation.
And I'm locking this thread (again) since the discussion here is nothing but assumptions and speculation.
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