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Draygo Korvan
Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.07 04:53:00 -
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Originally by: Intigo
Originally by: Vim Bacon being brought into the light forced ccp into taking action against it. YSSj for 'exploiters' that built their own 'bacons' and kept it secret except to corp/alliances. I salute the BACON project as a success.
This is the most competent thing I've seen a RK member write.
BoB, Goons & whatnot had been using stuff like this for ages, BACON was the reason all of them are now nerfed. Can only be thankful of the creators for that.
Cant answer for bob, but Goons do not have a program that makes an audible sound when someone enters local, especially based on standing. --
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Mister Xerox
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Posted - 2008.06.07 08:36:00 -
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Originally by: Draygo Korvan
Originally by: Intigo
Originally by: Vim Bacon being brought into the light forced ccp into taking action against it. YSSj for 'exploiters' that built their own 'bacons' and kept it secret except to corp/alliances. I salute the BACON project as a success.
This is the most competent thing I've seen a RK member write.
BoB, Goons & whatnot had been using stuff like this for ages, BACON was the reason all of them are now nerfed. Can only be thankful of the creators for that.
Cant answer for bob, but Goons do not have a program that makes an audible sound when someone enters local, especially based on standing.
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Probably because they'd never be able to get a word in edgewise on their voice comms for all the beeps and tones and warbles wherever they happen to be.
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Maglorre
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Posted - 2008.06.07 09:13:00 -
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Originally by: Draygo Korvan
Cant answer for bob, but Goons do not have a program that makes an audible sound when someone enters local, especially based on standing.
True, but do you deny that Goons have one that reports movements into and out of a system to a central server?
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Iteken Hotori
Eve Defence Force Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.06.07 09:47:00 -
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Edited by: Iteken Hotori on 07/06/2008 09:48:38
Originally by: Havohej
Originally by: Apoctasy CCP DID SOMETHING RIGHT AGAIN
Fix't.
C C C C C Seriously, this is great news I'm fullye xpecting this to be one of the best / patches ever - Factional warfare will be teh win, lots of ui fixes ppl have *****ed about for months, now this. Epic
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Noelle Fay
RIMTECH NOVA GOTISCHES IMPERIUM
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Posted - 2008.06.07 09:48:00 -
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hehe ... in b4 "HOW DARE YOU CCP NOW WE CAN'T WATCH TV AND MAKE MONEY!" -- -- -- -- -- -- -- The secret to success, whether it's women or money, is knowing when to quit. I oughta know: I'm divorced and broke. |

Esmenet
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Posted - 2008.06.07 09:57:00 -
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Originally by: Noelle Fay hehe ... in b4 "HOW DARE YOU CCP NOW WE CAN'T WATCH TV AND MAKE MONEY!"
Just do highsec missions. :)
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.06.07 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: Maglorre
Originally by: Draygo Korvan
Cant answer for bob, but Goons do not have a program that makes an audible sound when someone enters local, especially based on standing.
True, but do you deny that Goons have one that reports movements into and out of a system to a central server?
They would have been stupid to not do this 
something ccp can't easily detect, and not against the eula.
not that I am saying its a good thing.
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Gone'Postal
Scoopex The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2008.06.07 10:14:00 -
[38]
About time CCP \0/
/me awaits the BACON fanboys emoragequittingthreads.
Questions, Comments, Problems, Please address them to the CSM.. Now CCP Never have to visit the forum. -V8I-
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ToxicFire
Phoenix Knights
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Posted - 2008.06.07 10:43:00 -
[39]
mmmmm bacon and egg ------------------------------------------ Sig removed as it lacks EVE-related content. Mail [email protected] if you have questions. -Hango
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Dionisius
The Circle STYX.
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Posted - 2008.06.07 11:34:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Draygo Korvan
Originally by: Intigo
Originally by: Vim Bacon being brought into the light forced ccp into taking action against it. YSSj for 'exploiters' that built their own 'bacons' and kept it secret except to corp/alliances. I salute the BACON project as a success.
This is the most competent thing I've seen a RK member write.
BoB, Goons & whatnot had been using stuff like this for ages, BACON was the reason all of them are now nerfed. Can only be thankful of the creators for that.
(...)Goons do not have a program that makes an audible sound when someone enters local, especially based on standing.
BULLLLLLLLLS********************** !!!!!! _____________________________________ I am the destroyer of worlds and the also the cokie thief. |

Rawr Cristina
Naqam
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Posted - 2008.06.07 11:50:00 -
[41]
nice one CCP  ...
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Muscaat
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.06.07 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Draygo Korvan Cant answer for bob, but Goons do not have a program that makes an audible sound when someone enters local, especially based on standing.
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9655/beetrackerth9.jpg 
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Matrixcvd
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2008.06.07 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Muscaat
Originally by: Draygo Korvan Cant answer for bob, but Goons do not have a program that makes an audible sound when someone enters local, especially based on standing.
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9655/beetrackerth9.jpg 
pwn'd
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Vincent S
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.06.07 12:40:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Muscaat
Originally by: Draygo Korvan Cant answer for bob, but Goons do not have a program that makes an audible sound when someone enters local, especially based on standing.
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9655/beetrackerth9.jpg 
That's not a troll or anything, good going not falling for it
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Fifth Horseman
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Posted - 2008.06.07 12:43:00 -
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So, clear as mud as always.
Certain 3rd party tools are ok. Some are not.
--- Did I upset the wrong alliance with this post? Please don't ban me when it's your shift to control the Mitnal account.
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Havohej
The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2008.06.07 13:20:00 -
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Originally by: Fifth Horseman So, clear as mud as always.
Certain 3rd party tools are ok. Some are not.
3rd party tools based on the API Key system are fine. Everything else (like, you know, apps that read output from logserver.exe for a real-time intel reporting tool) isn't.
Pretty clear to me - API good, everything else bad.
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Tsanse Kinske
WeMeanYouKnowHarm
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Posted - 2008.06.07 15:36:00 -
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Cheers to CCP for fixing this.
Cheers to the Bacon team--whatever their intentions--for their part in publicizing what had been a quiet issue and getting this fixed.
Cheers to everybody who got angry about it and made their feelings public, making it something that had to get fixed. * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
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Durzel
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Posted - 2008.06.07 16:01:00 -
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Edited by: Durzel on 07/06/2008 16:02:18
Originally by: Draygo Korvan
Originally by: Intigo
Originally by: Vim Bacon being brought into the light forced ccp into taking action against it. YSSj for 'exploiters' that built their own 'bacons' and kept it secret except to corp/alliances. I salute the BACON project as a success.
This is the most competent thing I've seen a RK member write.
BoB, Goons & whatnot had been using stuff like this for ages, BACON was the reason all of them are now nerfed. Can only be thankful of the creators for that.
Cant answer for bob, but Goons do not have a program that makes an audible sound when someone enters local, especially based on standing.
So Beetracker is a myth then?
(ImageShack link above was dead for me)
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trite boon
Personal Vendetta Vendetta Alliance.
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Posted - 2008.06.07 16:02:00 -
[49]
thanks ccp
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Ellmar
Old Dominion Engineering Nihil-Obstat
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Posted - 2008.06.07 16:13:00 -
[50]
with bacon
without bacon
thanks for ya time
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Dravius Luxor
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.06.07 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit They should have thrown in a week of ban hammer to users of BACON imo. Make is so the next time a program is made, people will be not so eager to use it without consequences.
Indeed.
I agree.
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Dibsi Dei
Salamyhkaisten kilta
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Posted - 2008.06.07 16:18:00 -
[52]
What is going to happen to hydra now 
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Tortun Nahme
Umbra Synergy Final Retribution Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.07 17:41:00 -
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that says client logs
it mentions nothing of the logs that Bacon uses, which happen not to be the oens from the client 
so I laugh at you, bacon whiners! your premature celebration is delicious
Originally by: Cecil Montague They should change that warning on entering low sec to:
"Go read Crime and Punishment for a few days then come back."
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Speaker Dead
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Posted - 2008.06.07 17:42:00 -
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Do you guys honestly believe that this will be the end of it? Less than 2 Weeks after the patch, I will bet Bacon will be redeployed using a different form of interface to capture the data. This is of course assuming that they haven't already updated it to get around the fix....
"Your living in a dreamworld Neo"
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RedLion
Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.07 18:03:00 -
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I am in doubt if this affects bacon at all.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The Gallenteans must be destroyed - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - |

Reuser
Gunfleet Logistics Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.07 22:34:00 -
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Gunfleet considers this a win. One of our key goals was always to bring this issue to light.
That being said, as I have said in the past, Gunfleet has de-emphasized BACON dev to strictly bug fixes, and those will shortly cease to become relevant. We're working on some TS/BB/KB/API integration, and some other partnerships.
Fly safe! 
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Alex Under
0utbreak
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Posted - 2008.06.08 08:05:00 -
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Originally by: TZeer Saw this in the patchnotes:
Quote: Several improvements have been made to logging, both server and client side in order to provide a safer playing experience and a better development environment. 3rd party tools that utilize the client logs will no longer provide useful out-of-game intel. This change will not affect 3rd party programs who use the EVE API (EVEMon, EFT etc)
Will this affect bacon?
If so.. Yeay!! \o/
I certainly hope so... ___________________________________________________
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InSession
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.06.08 08:47:00 -
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Thank you very much CCP 
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Drachma Golea
hunter killers
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Posted - 2008.06.08 10:43:00 -
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LOL, someone will utilize the memory on your pc, which just reads the same action and turn it into the same functionality as bacon does.
Unless CCP forbid your cpu to read the data that is stored on your drive, forbid your memory to be filled with data provided by the controller of your drive and the instructions send to the GPU and memory on that card is not allowed to store that data, let alone be send to your screen, since the OS is a third party application. called an OS started up by your bios.
But then again, we get the picture... Yarrr No more automated intel, bacon is baconized and become vaporware...
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Riho
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.06.08 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: TZeer Saw this in the patchnotes:
Quote: Several improvements have been made to logging, both server and client side in order to provide a safer playing experience and a better development environment. 3rd party tools that utilize the client logs will no longer provide useful out-of-game intel. This change will not affect 3rd party programs who use the EVE API (EVEMon, EFT etc)
Will this affect bacon?
If so.. Yeay!! \o/
i hope so...
those who are against this.... **** YOU (yes dont care if i get a warning) ---------------------------------- Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
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