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RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.18 08:38:00 -
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OfBalance wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Rokh wins just in pure ease of use and tank for me. Indeed, everything wins over missile ships (except the tengu) for ease of use and tank these days. Having done the EFT work myself now, it would appear, using t1 ammo and four damage mods as a base for comparison, the anti-matter rokh does have more than enough damage at effective range to match the CNR. I guess cruise missiles are comparatively worse than I remembered.
No they just buffed hybrids. You can fit a full rack of 425s without being left with no way to fit a proper tank now.
And gave it more damage and tracking and the 5 second reload time boosts its DPS as well.
I only talk about the Rokh now cause i actually tested it in game after checking the EFT numbers. I dont like making a claim I have not tested first hand.
The turret advantages just outweigh using missiles to me. EDIT: I also like not having to think about changing damage types mission to mission. As long as its not EM hole rats you can clear most missions easily in the space bus.
You want to see something crazy do a Blaster Rokh in eft. With a TE or two you get huge range with null ammo on blasters. Its amazing to clear Angel missions with a Blaster Rokh. Its a lot of fun. Im not done testing that though.
Mega, Domi, Kronos, Vindi, Rokh all became much better mission ships since patch. Next ship im going to test is a sentry rail domi. |
OfBalance
Caldari State
178
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Posted - 2012.03.18 08:41:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:No they just buffed hybrids.
"Comparatively worse," as in "compared to the new hyrbids, they are worse." So you see, we actually agree. I think you missed my concession in that post. vOv
I would love to test the rokh myself, but that would require me to run missions that aren't epic arcs (which I refuse to run in anything but a t3 thanks to all the jumping across the galaxy). I don't want to run missions. Please don't make me run missions. |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
164
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Posted - 2012.03.18 08:47:00 -
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OfBalance wrote:RougeOperator wrote:No they just buffed hybrids. "Comparatively worse," as in "compared to the new hyrbids, they are worse." So you see, we actually agree. I think you missed my concession in that post. vOv I would love to test the rokh myself, but that would require me to run missions that aren't epic arcs (which I refuse to run in anything but a t3 thanks to all the jumping across the galaxy). I don't want to run missions. Please don't make me run missions.
Cant blame you.
But if you know you are going against Rats weak to Hybrids Rohk is fantastic now. Especially in sites when the stupid rat spawns can be far off. |
Raven Ether
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
110
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Posted - 2012.03.18 09:50:00 -
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With the Tengu you have to be glued constantly switching targets and managing speed, shield boosters distance , reloading, not to mention that it eats up a lot of ammo.
Some commonly ignored facts by eftwarriors about the Tengu |
OfBalance
Caldari State
179
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Posted - 2012.03.18 09:58:00 -
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Raven Ether wrote:constantly switching targets
Indeed, 5 target max sucks.
Raven Ether wrote:
and managing speed
Uh... wat? Just orbit the acceleration gate. There's nothing to manage there.
Raven Ether wrote:
shield boosters distance
Ok, now i'm really lost.
Raven Ether wrote:
reloading, not to mention that it eats up a lot of ammo.
Reloading also sucks, but it eats up no more ammo than any AC ship and scourge/trauma heavies are p. damn cheap. |
Mike Whiite
Progressive State
32
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Posted - 2012.03.19 11:40:00 -
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CNR has a proper answer to Gurista jammers, Missile ships are have better answers to e-war in general, missiles always hit their targets, loss due to explosion radius can be coutered with tp and skill.
EFT is not sacred.
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OfBalance
Caldari State
184
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Posted - 2012.03.19 15:47:00 -
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Mike Whiite wrote:CNR has a proper answer to Gurista jammers, Missile ships are have better answers to e-war in general, missiles always hit their targets, loss due to explosion radius can be coutered with tp and skill.
Sansha carry the only (tracking disruptor) ewar biased toward missiles, unless you count FoF missiles being greater than having decent sensor strength which then only applies to guided missiles. Also, target painters and missile support skills do not make up for the fact low transversal targets of any size can be volley'd. There are very few pve situations where "always hit," is in any way preferable to being able to volley incoming frigs. |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2012.03.19 16:29:00 -
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Wuxi Wuxilla wrote:
Just for a quick comparison of fits
The Rokh does 698.1 gundps out to 70+49km with CN Antimatter
The CNR does 681.3 missile dps out to lock range with CN Missiles
The Rokh has the vastly superior tank, the CNR has dmg selection.
just out of laziness, can you drop me that rokh fit? |
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