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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2008.06.10 19:46:00 -
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EVE Online: Empyrean Age has been successfully deployed on Tranquility and we’re now open for business! We invite you to explore the new region "Black Rise" or try the new feature Factional Warfare, to fight for glory and fame in the service of your faction. For a more comprehensive list of what has been added and fixed, please check the patch notes. We’d also appreciate to hear your feedback which can be posted in this thread. Please note that this is for general feedback, not issues or bugs.
If you discover any issues or bugs with Empyrean Age, please post them in the Empyrean Age issues thread.
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Caiman Graystock
Quantum of Solace
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Posted - 2008.06.10 19:50:00 -
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Thank you CCP! Way head of schedule! Wo0t! |
Ricky1989
Insurrection Inc
The Kano Organisation
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Posted - 2008.06.10 19:54:00 -
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Huzzah!
First page \o/ |
Pawiie
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.06.10 19:54:00 -
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so much earlier than expected!!
awesome! lets hope u dont have to many bugs :) |
Granmethedon III
The Wild Hunt
Pure.
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Posted - 2008.06.10 19:54:00 -
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Had some problems with the auto-patch corrupting my install; downloading the full version fresh.... sorry forgot to make a note of the error!  |
Idara
Contraband Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.10 19:56:00 -
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Since Revelations you guys have had some really smooth patch rollouts.
Here's hoping this is the same. |
Theo Samaritan
Eve-Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.10 19:56:00 -
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Remember people the server with be iffy, but very good job you guys at CCP! |
Moncada
The Unbeholden
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Posted - 2008.06.10 19:58:00 -
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Will we get the news stories that was during DT to the normal news section? I liked them alot :P
Montada
Cardinal Maledictus Sanguine
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.06.10 19:59:00 -
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Grats on a quick turnaround... and good luck with the aftermath.
Oh, and thank you for another FREE expansion.
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Aurora Tagan
Epic Army
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:00:00 -
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I was told to come praise here, so I is.
Great read throughout the day on the war updates.
The quote 'CONCORD HAS BEEN DISABLED' brought a smile on 
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:00:00 -
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 Originally by: Moncada
Will we get the news stories that was during DT to the normal news section? I liked them alot :P
Yes, they will soon be added to the normal news system. 
Wrangler
Community Manager
CCP Hf, EVE Online
Email
"It's not worth doing something unless you are doing something that someone, somewhere, would much rather you weren't doing." |
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Stork DK
Synthetic Frontiers
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:00:00 -
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Awesome :D
CCP ftw ^^
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- Stork DK |
Mobius Timewalker
Cadian Special Operations Command
Safe And Fun Environment
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:01:00 -
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This is disgusting...i pay for this game and you said there would be a 24 hour downtime..i demand CCP TAKE MY MONEY for this extra game time....
err...wait a min
All joking aside well done you lot, the storys on the news page were brilliant
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Particul
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:01:00 -
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As usual, patching error ept018
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MrTripps
Blueprint Haus
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:02:00 -
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Ya'll can patch first. I'm gonna wait and see if it blows anything up first. Fingers crossed.
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." Hunter S. Thompson. |
TylerJames
XERCORE
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:03:00 -
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I knew you guys wanted to give this to me for my birthday. You finished before I got off from work. Yeah my boss made me work on my birthday. Slave driver and no he is not Amarr. 
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Luigi Thirty
19th Star Logistics
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:03:00 -
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Countdown to cluster explosion, 3, 2, 1...
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DOMINIX IS INVINCIBLEBLUE:(((( |
Arous Drephius
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:03:00 -
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Awesome job.
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Aldrad
Point of No Return
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:03:00 -
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W00t. Top work, CCP. My hat goes off to you.
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Elppin Tsaerb
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:03:00 -
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Here goes the patch...hope my boot.ini stays put...
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Kailey Takar
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:05:00 -
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3 hrs till I get home.
Can't wait.
Thanks ccp
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Kerfira
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:05:00 -
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Ahead of schedule.... Hope you guys are starting a trend here 
My guess is that you saw me forgetting to change my skills to long ones and thought to help me out
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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Lazereth
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:05:00 -
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Congrats CCP - its 5 years to the day for me !
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vonRackham
Murky Inc.
Power Of 3
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:05:00 -
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Excellent job! D/Ling the patch...
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Kamorius
Brothers In Arms -- Utd Corp Federation
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:09:00 -
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Edited by: Kamorius on 10/06/2008 20:09:16
Great stories, really kept me, and a friend, entertained through the waiting. Thanks! Hope to see more.
Anyone been to Yulai yet? |
Gemberkoekje
Eve Defence Force
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:09:00 -
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Edited by: Gemberkoekje on 10/06/2008 20:09:52
If you want to check the news, check here:
http://www.eve-online.com/news/downtimenews.asp
Brilliant news btw.. Please make trailers out of it! I would love to see 1000s of ships converging onto the CONCORD station WITHOUT LAG XP |
Eyrines
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:10:00 -
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Edited by: Eyrines on 10/06/2008 20:10:52
In before the wailing starts.
Oh and yeah, this is definitely the best downtime ever. Not a dull moment.  |
Gartanus
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:10:00 -
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It would appear that you guys nailed it this time. I really like the new log in graphics. Hats off to CCP for a job well done and ahead of schedule. |
Krell Vashari
Omicron Resource Technologies Limited
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:11:00 -
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So if you updated the Navy Apoc to have the decent bonus and cap, why did you leave the Paladin with the old cap and bonus?  |
Arrs Grazznic
Poena Executive Solutions
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:12:00 -
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Ahead of schedule by several hours... Great job!
I also have to add that the news stories on the 'update' page were excellent. I don't RP in EVE, but these stories were an inspired way to provide entertainment (and could also have been used to provide progress updates, if needed). I hope we see something similar in future patches!
Well done... just need to play now :)
Cheers,
Arrs
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Trolsk
Red.
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:12:00 -
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Very very nice stuff on Minmatar/Amarr  .
Sadly, the Caldari/Gallente seems more of a cheap ass cop out last minute lack of inspiration 5 year old's 'what I did in the holidays' effort, utterly devoid of any imagination, will have to see if they manage to salvage that p.o.s. storyline, pathetic... imo of course  |
vonRackham
Murky Inc.
Power Of 3
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:12:00 -
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Any report of patch problems?
Any way to salvage () the overview old settings?
I'd really hate to enter all my settings again... |
La Hafiz
The Synove Initiative
White Core
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:12:00 -
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Holy crap, I can't believe it's already back up! I'm going nuts!!!! |
FullMetal Basilisk
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:12:00 -
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/me wants the API system back again!!!!!! lol
downloading patch now - lets rock n roll ppl :D |
Phil Ross
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:13:00 -
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amazing... waaaay ahead of schedule. and the news feed throughout the day was genius :D thanks folks |
Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp
INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:14:00 -
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Top marks for the fictional news stream, can't wait to get home and bust some heads  |
Jaabaa Prime
Quam Singulari
Warp to Desktop
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:15:00 -
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God damn it 
CONCORD and DED were off line in Jita during this extended downtime and I couldn't log on 
All those juicy targets that I couldn't get at, damn my log on screen
Apart from that, excellent work CCP, glad to see that you were able to bring the server up ahead of schedule |
Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp
INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:15:00 -
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top marks for the news feed on the patch page, honestly one of the best things any MMO company has done to alleviate the pain of an expansion patch day |
Hakuriu
Freedom Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:16:00 -
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Great job on the news stories, CCP! Talk about building anticipation. I can't wait to get home and sign up my corp for the militia.
Probably going to lose some sec status tonight. :) |
Ubik Null
The Ore House
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:16:00 -
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First, thanks for your efforts on a quick patch process, I hope all goes well.
Second, I really enjoyed the news item throughout the process. Very exciting stuff! Glad to hear they'll be put into the regular news channel. A trailer or two would be awesome as well.
Downloading the patch now. Can't wait.
Nice job. |
malet
Quam Singulari
Warp to Desktop
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:17:00 -
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very nicely done CCP. Server back nice and early too :)
QUAM - Hot dropping a system near you soon
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La Hafiz
The Synove Initiative
White Core
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:18:00 -
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Woa, so about these mercenaries. Are there really NPCs that have a 10 mill bounty on them? Will the captains be in the wreck?
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Tara'Quoya Rax
Black-Sun
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:21:00 -
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No Angel & Serpentis incursions...?
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Kuranta
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:22:00 -
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Awesome job, CCP. Thanks for 20hrs of work.
Love the Magnate btw.
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Grarr Dexx
Naval Protection Corp
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:22:00 -
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Militia insta-removes you from corporation, might want to look into that.
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fubbleskag
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:23:00 -
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nicely done, patchnews was a great touch to keep it interesting and pass the time. |
Salvis Tallan
The Shadow Order
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:24:00 -
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I am still dling the patch, but I want to say amazing job with all the news reports during the patch process. I love the large amount of news and stories that have been written and published for FW. I am a bit upset that I am in an alliance and will not be able to participate in FW, however I can still enjoy the process, the tension, and the excitement of FW through the news articles. Please continue to provide this same quantity (and quality) of news stories even after FW has been deployed.
Also, WTB Faction Warfare on DVD... Honestly just the opening fights that were on the downtime news page rendered and made into a movie would be amazing.
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ArmyOfMe
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:27:00 -
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good job ccp. i guess my murphy wasnt around today
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Bob Mc
Shade.
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:27:00 -
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Props for quick deployment, overview settings stayed as well & game is running fine
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tesvtr
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Krell Vashari
So if you updated the Navy Apoc to have the decent bonus and cap, why did you leave the Paladin with the old cap and bonus?
Coz it would be rediculously overpowered ? If you fit it correctly it is already a very good ship.
On the other hand, to have finally made the apoc worth flying as a combat ship again, but overlooking the navy variant definitely needed fixing.
Mind you, as a firm fan of the Paladin, if they did decide to buff it, I wouldn't complain
Oh and to CCP (back on topic) I would also like to say good job on the time-filling news stories. Patch days in the last 5 years have been crying out for something like this. Frankly (IMO) pictures of drunken internet spaceship fans on holiday in Iceland isn't nearly as good as this latest idea ... Keep it up.
Now, off to see if the patch breaks my good mood 
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Neth'Rae
Decorum Inc
Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:30:00 -
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Awesome downtime :D
I can't wait to go get in game and go see Caldari Prime and Yulai.
Request signatures at EVE-GFX |
ShadowMaster
CoRe Clan
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:31:00 -
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Epic win CCP, best patch deployment ever. Ahead of schedule, at least the posted schedule, great story in between as well. I really hope this will be a trend from now on.
Kudos CCP for again setting an industry standard. I hope that other MMO's take note of this and follow suit, and people say story is not important bah.
Oh, and thanks for the best birthday present ever.
Some Eyes Demand Respect, Some Eyes Demand Fear, Mine ..... Mine earn it
The Definition of an Upgrade: Take old bugs out, put new ones in.
Cannot find REALITY.SYS. Universe halted.
COFFEE.EXE Missing - Insert Cup and Press Any Key |
Nova Tiempo
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Mobius Timewalker
This is disgusting...i pay for this game and you said there would be a 24 hour downtime..i demand CCP TAKE MY MONEY for this extra game time....
err...wait a min
All joking aside well done you lot, the storys on the news page were brilliant
/agree - you get enough people complain when it overruns...
Awesome deployment CCP, much kudos for the evening of pvp you've given us back :D |
Macht Zauras
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:32:00 -
[54]
Lets see how newbies like me will react...
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vonRackham
Murky Inc.
Power Of 3
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:32:00 -
[55]
Whoa, sweet login screen background art!
Any chance of a wallpaper?
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Rayne Jameson
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:34:00 -
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patch news was awesome. pics at every news item would be even cooler
and i hope all Scope News videos will be online for us to watch |
Terminus adacai
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:35:00 -
[57]
Excellent patch so far....
Story lines in news was awesome way to keep us "updated". Enjoyed the news articles very much. |
Mnement'h
Body Count Inc.
Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:38:00 -
[58]
loading eve, selecting no when prompted about installing the patch and then closing/reloading the game will corrupt the install ... |
sg3s
O.W.N. Corp
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:39:00 -
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This is not a suprise. Atleast this shows CCP is still 'Crowd Control Productions', in short thy know how to handle masses.
I sorta expected them to make us believe it was 24hrs of downtime while in reality they planned for 12 hours, now it took a bit longer than that but atleast we think they're still on time! |
Gner Dechast
Flashman Services
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:39:00 -
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After all these years, finally!
I congratulate you on reserving enough down time for the deployment. I am very positively surprised. Hopefully this will become the new norm.
Well done!
Oh, and loved the downtime website too ... |
Asphyxiant
Industry Of War
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:41:00 -
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brilliant! that graveyard pwns :) great work CCP, and those news really rock! will we get any pictures from the storyline? |
Dessa Bevari
Silent Assassin Killers
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:46:00 -
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the news during the DT were an awesome read, keep on that.
however, i maybe missed somthing why is the concord bureau station still listed for Yulai or is it rebuilded already? |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:48:00 -
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Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 10/06/2008 20:50:54
Awesome job on the DT news thing, really kept us entertained!
Two things tho?
- ancient mystical elders from fairyland? you gotta be kidding me, I hope that's just someone's propaganda IC...
- where's IC info on the FW corps? who are they, who's backing them (for Matari: elders? Republic? Defiants? wtf?) and whatnot? should those speeches not be up too before the play goes on?
I realize the DT ended less than 24 hours after it started, so maybe these are still coming...
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Saiutt
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Posted - 2008.06.10 21:00:00 -
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Edited by: Saiutt on 10/06/2008 21:02:16
First, thanks to everyone at CCP for finishing well within the 24 hour period!
Now what I hope is some constructive criticism; In my opinion, the layout of systems and jumps in Black Rise and the end of Placid just doesn't look natural. Some systems are too remote and some are too dense.
I think the systems of and around Vlillirier, Immuri, and Hikkoken should be a bit lower.. towards Rakapas.
And the systems in the constellation of Aokinen need to be spread out a little bit and a few jumps need re-thinking.. especially Rohamaa.
Anyone else agree? disagree? voice your thoughts!
Edit: Typo |
Caiman Graystock
Quantum of Solace
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Posted - 2008.06.10 21:09:00 -
[65]
Edited by: Caiman Graystock on 10/06/2008 21:09:11
Any in-universe explanation due on where the systems in Black Rise came from/are now accessible? |
Brutal Psycho
East Khanid Trading
Khanid Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.06.10 21:09:00 -
[66]
Sweet downtime. I absolutely loved the fast and furious news items. Cheers and good work! |
Mynxee
AlfaCorp
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Posted - 2008.06.10 21:10:00 -
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Great job CCP...loved the rollout of the news stories...they've been very effective at building the atmosphere around the faction warfare I hope to be involved with right quick. Looking forward to more more more! How I love this game.
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Miki Fin
Independant Union of Rangers
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Posted - 2008.06.10 21:13:00 -
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Does anyones limited api key work yet or is it just mine? |
Jakke Logan
F Off And Die
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Posted - 2008.06.10 21:13:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Jakke Logan on 10/06/2008 21:13:47
good: Downtime is over with so I can play again.
bad: This is by far the thinnest expansion for EVE ever. Also the Devs refused to engage us in any sort of compromise regarding excluding alliance members from... oh, 99.9% of the content. Actually make that 100% of the content, the .1 is the align to button.
ugly: Once the pirate gank-orgy happens over the next few days, Empyrean Age is over except for more nice stories in the news.
good: Hopefully the next expansion will be better. It almost has to be.
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Karonas
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.10 21:17:00 -
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Thank you CCP for deploying a patch that will engage 0 pilots that are alliance members. |
Cybelee
Gods Unwanted
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Posted - 2008.06.10 21:17:00 -
[71]
Just joined corp for militia, a new guy joined our corp and he was in the militia straight away where as guys already in the corp are not. Is this a bug ? |
tomy'lv
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Posted - 2008.06.10 21:18:00 -
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"NPCs no longer drop Ship Logs."
i got some angel ship log. |
Haloxx
Star Section 9
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Posted - 2008.06.10 21:18:00 -
[73]
I have to say that the Anathema with the Magnate hull looks absolutely gorgeous! It will almost be a shame to cloak it.
The new songs are awesome too! Well done. |
Wayson
Trans Nebula Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.10 21:22:00 -
[74]
Five hours head of schedule is fantastic. I just hope that no nightmarish stuff happens like the post-Trinity problem. Looks good so far though, and I like the new background for the login screen. Much better than the previous in my opinion. |
Vladimir Frye
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Posted - 2008.06.10 21:28:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Estel Arador
My overview settings were reset, I thought that no longer happened with patches?
Ditto here too. And while I could load a saved set, when you dock and then un-dock the settings are lost/reverted again.
Originally by: Miki Fin
Does anyones limited api key work yet or is it just mine?
EveMon broken here too... |
GLEV
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Posted - 2008.06.10 21:28:00 -
[76]
Im going nuts here!!!thanks ccp |
VXxed
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.10 21:31:00 -
[77]
My faction standing is -.78 with the Gallente, but my Diplomacy knocks it up to .52. I was hoping that getting diplomacy up would let me fight for the Gallente in the factional warfare, but apparently not? Mildly disappointed and displeased.. |
brakespear
Wayward Brewing
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Posted - 2008.06.10 21:32:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Jakke Logan
bad: This is by far the thinnest expansion for EVE ever. Also the Devs refused to engage us in any sort of compromise regarding excluding alliance members from... oh, 99.9% of the content. Actually make that 100% of the content, the .1 is the align to button.
I dunno, maybe the thinking was that if you're in a PVP alliance you have as much PVP as you want already, if you're in a non-PVP alliance and you want to PVP then you're in the wrong alliance, and if you want to FW more than regular PVP then maybe you have a tough choice It was always going to be a difficult call for CCP but I for one am glad alliances weren't allowed to register as a whole (as a player within a smaller entity ) - large alliances already have 0.0 without snatching up FW locations as well
Anyway, grats on all the news updates CCP, enjoyed them a lot, more of this please
PS: it all made sense in my head but typing it out may introduce rogue elements |
Helevorn Feanaro
Gene Works
AKA-AHN KINGDOM
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Posted - 2008.06.10 21:33:00 -
[79]
Well done, CCP.
No problems. New audio FTW |
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CCP Navigator
C C P
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Posted - 2008.06.10 21:34:00 -
[80]
Hello everyone,
Two minor changes have been made to the Patch Notes as follows:
Features
World Shaping
Lonetrek,
New Jump - Haajinen to Elanoda. Removed as this jump does not exist.
Changes
NPC's
NPC's no longer drop ship logs. This has also been removed as this change did not make it into the Empyrean Age expansion.
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Darnell Franks
Project Boost
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Posted - 2008.06.10 21:39:00 -
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Edited by: Darnell Franks on 10/06/2008 21:49:52
first on notes changes!
thanks ccp awsome stuff
I LOVED the news - you had me on my seat going 'OMG SAVE THOSE SLAVES NOW' on numerous occasions. Also a few 'omgwtf where did the caldari come from' moments :p It's ashame we can't get the old news - missed it all :s :( I didn't keep up because I thought i'd be buying the book on release - but had to get RL stuffs :( (civilian gatling guns to join the war ofcourse ;p)
But is there somewhere I can catch up on the rest?
Also, BEST DT EVER! lol. Uber-fast, and the server was amazingly responsive for a massive patch day.
My god your turning me into a right little fan boy :/
/emote visited black rise earlier :D
EA Grade: A1.
My respect and gratitude
Darnell Franks |
Dohl Khrensen
Huang Yinglong
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.06.10 21:40:00 -
[82]
Downtime news was awesome!
Thanks, CCP. Can't wait to get home and play. |
Gartanus
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.06.10 22:00:00 -
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I just ran 2 level 4 missions in Amarr space. Everything worked perfect! Thanks for fixing the windows being all over the place. I have been moving them so much that I automaticaly went to move the overview only to find it was where it was supposed to be. I have even noticed a boost in frame rate. You guys really did a great job on this deployment. Rock on CCP. |
Letouk Mernel
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Posted - 2008.06.10 22:05:00 -
[84]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Important notice: There have been several ammendments to the Patch Notes. Changes have been marked with a Strikethrough and can be seen here.
Another minor change seems to be that all civilian modules have been removed from the market, not just guns. Not in the patch notes. |
Xaviar Onassis
Iyen-Oursta Salvage
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Posted - 2008.06.10 22:06:00 -
[85]
okay, REALLY minor issue here, not going to post it to the issues forum, just feeding back....
When you refine a bunch of stuff (love the new refine window layout btw) the window hangs around. If you then select more stuff from your hangar and hit refine, the refine window just sits there empty...
Xav |
Vanessa Vale
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Posted - 2008.06.10 22:07:00 -
[86]
Yawn patch after yawn patch, CCP seems hellbent on milking the current design no matter how much it sucks. |
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CCP Explorer
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Posted - 2008.06.10 22:24:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Grarr Dexx
Militia insta-removes you from corporation, might want to look into that.
Joining a militia requires you to leave your current corp. |
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CCP Explorer
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Posted - 2008.06.10 22:26:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Dessa Bevari
however, i maybe missed somthing why is the concord bureau station still listed for Yulai or is it rebuilded already?
Go and take a look  |
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StarGlider7
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Posted - 2008.06.10 22:30:00 -
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Edited by: StarGlider7 on 10/06/2008 22:31:33
Huge Lag In Luminaire...once your in...you cant get out !!???
other than that...top job...stories were excellent ! |
Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.06.10 22:31:00 -
[90]
Um... why have the Minmatar not won? Please, CCP. This just isn't acceptable. |
Johnsus
InGen Corporation
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Posted - 2008.06.10 22:32:00 -
[91]
Originally by: CCP Explorer
Joining a militia requires you to leave your current corp.
My take on this is that now even the fat kids will get picked to play kick ball (no more "you're too noob to be in mah ubar corp")
I am not sure how this new war business is going to effect my otherwise peaceful jaunts around carebear space, so I guess I'll be seen in a shuttle til the smoke clears. :)
I'm a huge fan of CCP and EVE, all the way. I love how this company handles it's MMO, the storylines are brilliant, and the game atmosphere is both haunting and soothing. Best feature of CCP is their lack of need to continually *****their player base for $50 every 6 mos for the same old content - tuned 5 levels higher (ahemcoughsoecough).
Great job nonetheless. I can't wait to see the evolution continue.
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Kamorius
Brothers In Arms -- Utd Corp Federation
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Posted - 2008.06.10 22:33:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Vanessa Vale
Yawn patch after yawn patch, CCP seems hellbent on milking the current design no matter how much it sucks.
I'm pretty sure this is the thread for constructive feedback. Take your whining elsewhere. |
XICD7
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Posted - 2008.06.10 22:35:00 -
[93]
good job CCP !!!
I kept reading the news and they were awesome!!. now I would like to ask you if there any plans to roll out teaser videos from those news. like when heth raises the caldari flag in caldari prime. or when the missing ammarrian suddenly appears on the battlefield.. something like a sumary of the events. the empyrean teaser trailers left me hungry ... |
Ashirai Sindare
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Posted - 2008.06.10 22:36:00 -
[94]
The newsupdates on this "npc-apocalypse day" was just great, lovely reading. 5 of 5 stars!
you're up and online a good while before promised, lovely! 5 of 5 stars
you changed the hull of the helios. it used to be so shiny and techy-looking, now its just... well i can say i was never a fan of the imicus, and seing it with just a new colorscheme and no added techbits is a downside, please give me my helios back! -4 stars.
all in all: 6 of 5 stars!
why? cuz who cares how a covops boat looks, its cloaked all the time anyway! |
nashau3
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Posted - 2008.06.10 22:46:00 -
[95]
Woaw nice finaly some seriosly pew pew in empire, I might consider comming back to empire, but only might
another thing there could be cool, would be gang bonuses if a fleet consists with ONLY ships from same faction.
Eks:
A Fleet with only amarr ships would get a bonus for eksample cap or something there would make it worth making fleets like this. |
Oakrayven
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.10 22:47:00 -
[96]
Eh so far the only oddity was looting a Focused Medium Pulse Laser I from an NPC orespray and the NPC hauler with random junk in its wreck in a mission.
***** ****
Trust Aura. Aura is Your Friend.
If your too paranoid to play EVE. . .
Then your not paranoid ENOUGH to play EVE |
Dianne McReigner
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Posted - 2008.06.10 22:55:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Ashirai Sindare
...you changed the hull of the helios. it used to be so shiny and techy-looking, now its just... well i can say i was never a fan of the imicus, and seing it with just a new colorscheme and no added techbits is a downside, please give me my helios back!...
Agreed, please do something about Helios new hull. It doesn't seem appropriate to release a beautiful new Amarr Cov Ops and then tar and feather the Helios, comon?!
I am also curious to see how pirate corps (who are not affiliated with a faction) will influence the FW (don't have too much fun BEES ).
Btw, I take it all the mines that were deployed by NPCs during DT are gone?
Other then that,
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thundachronic
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Posted - 2008.06.10 22:58:00 -
[98]
Quote:
Joining a Fleet with a player who is currently involved in a war will no longer make you a valid target in that war. CONCORD will now respond if a player who is not involved in a war is aggressed within a gang in High Security space.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING !? DO YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND !?
You are killing high sec war ! Now ALL will fly with support of INVULNERABLE logistics and wipe out all who try fight fair with corp mates only.
Can you explain why you are doing so ? |
ShaD Ra
Melted Rocks Research Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.10 23:03:00 -
[99]
Nice job CCP! :D
Just downloading the new patch!!! Cant wait to see the new features! |
SK Rooster
No Trademark
The OSS
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Posted - 2008.06.10 23:05:00 -
[100]
For me if i am in a fleet and i undock the drone window will move under the fleet window even if i locked and pinned it somewhere else. |
Duvida
The Phalanx Expeditionary Conglomerate
The Gemini Project
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Posted - 2008.06.10 23:06:00 -
[101]
Seems to be running well, thank you for the great job, CCP-folks!
Learning... |
Dionisius
The Circle
STYX.
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Posted - 2008.06.10 23:09:00 -
[102]
Good one CCP, i personally didn't have the chance yet to get into the "new" eve but congratz for the news flashes during the day and for a successfull deployment.
Aditionaly thx for giving me 24h to build a new rig.
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Karaya Yi
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Posted - 2008.06.10 23:13:00 -
[103]
Originally by: thundachronic
Quote:
Joining a Fleet with a player who is currently involved in a war will no longer make you a valid target in that war. CONCORD will now respond if a player who is not involved in a war is aggressed within a gang in High Security space.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING !? DO YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND !?
You are killing high sec war ! Now ALL will fly with support of INVULNERABLE logistics and wipe out all who try fight fair with corp mates only.
Can you explain why you are doing so ?
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but if you're seriously thinking removing this coward's scam will 'kill high sec war' then you need to grow some balls.
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CCP Lingorm
C C P
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Posted - 2008.06.10 23:14:00 -
[104]
Originally by: thundachronic
Quote:
Joining a Fleet with a player who is currently involved in a war will no longer make you a valid target in that war. CONCORD will now respond if a player who is not involved in a war is aggressed within a gang in High Security space.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING !? DO YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND !?
You are killing high sec war ! Now ALL will fly with support of INVULNERABLE logistics and wipe out all who try fight fair with corp mates only.
Can you explain why you are doing so ?
OK here is how it works.
Player A and Player B are at war.
Player A and Player C are in a Gang.
Player B warps into the belt containing Players A and C.
Player A is a Valid target, but Player C is neutral to Player B.
Player B Shoots Player A. Player C remote supports Player A.
Player C, by supporting Player A is now a Valid target to Player B.
So Player C is only a Valid target if he does something to INVOLVE himself in the war.
CCP Lingorm
CCP Quality Assurance
QA Engineering Team Leader
Originally by: Lord Fitz
Eve is to WoW as Wow is to an 8 player game of Unreal Tournament.
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Pac Ratt
House Draconis
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Posted - 2008.06.10 23:25:00 -
[105]
Sweat I'm off work in 20min, I Jus can't wait to get going.
Cheers to CCP it sounds like you guys had all your ducks in a
row and so-forth.
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Zamolxiss
FinFleet
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.10 23:30:00 -
[106]
Just looked at the rig changes and with the exception of the Warp Core Optimizer I/II rigs, it's just pure fail... The diferences betwin Ionic Field Projector I and the t2 variant are just too small to make the t2 one a viable choice... and the Energy/Hybrid Disharge Elutration I/II are unchanged as far as i see it.. and completly useless at this moment... i was really hoping for a 30% t1 / 40% t2 reduction in cap use...
Anyway.. everything else looks aait so cheers ccp.. |
Chance Pierce
Big Weenie
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Posted - 2008.06.10 23:36:00 -
[107]
Beauty, I can't believe people are actually whining about this. WAKE UP. This is exactly what the game needed! Great job CCP.
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Vayi Mory
venator vestigium
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Posted - 2008.06.10 23:41:00 -
[108]
WOOTY mesa happy. shorter down time made it possible for me to play and to think O noes i wont be able to play so lets go down town and but some new books (got 3 nice ones enough reading stuff for a wile i just hope that the eve novel drops on my doormat soon)
now i whised that my main had some standing gues i have to do some missions with her :(
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thundachronic
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Posted - 2008.06.10 23:49:00 -
[109]
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
OK here is how it works.
Player A and Player B are at war.
Player A and Player C are in a Gang.
Player B warps into the belt containing Players A and C.
Player A is a Valid target, but Player C is neutral to Player B.
Player B Shoots Player A. Player C remote supports Player A.
Player C, by supporting Player A is now a Valid target to Player B.
So Player C is only a Valid target if he does something to INVOLVE himself in the war.
OK. So the difference of new system is the player C cant be the first target for player B ? OK. If so - it's not bad. Excuse my reflection.
And we all hope in new patch that remote repper C will start FLASHING red immidiately he starts rep A for ALL who shooting A. And if there are D and E in gang with player B - C must flash for D and E even if they didnt shoot A.
Is last sentence correct in this patch ?
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CCP Lingorm
C C P
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Posted - 2008.06.10 23:52:00 -
[110]
Originally by: thundachronic
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
OK here is how it works.
Player A and Player B are at war.
Player A and Player C are in a Gang.
Player B warps into the belt containing Players A and C.
Player A is a Valid target, but Player C is neutral to Player B.
Player B Shoots Player A. Player C remote supports Player A.
Player C, by supporting Player A is now a Valid target to Player B.
So Player C is only a Valid target if he does something to INVOLVE himself in the war.
OK. So the difference of new system is the player C cant be the first target for player B ? OK. If so - it's not bad. Excuse my reflection.
And we all hope in new patch that remote repper C will start FLASHING red immidiately he starts rep A for ALL who shooting A. And if there are D and E in gang with player B - C must flash for D and E even if they didnt shoot A.
Is last sentence correct in this patch ?
That is how it should work.
There may be a second or 2 for the overview to update, but yes Player C should, after supporting Player A become a valid war target to Players B, D and E.
CCP Lingorm
CCP Quality Assurance
QA Engineering Team Leader
Originally by: Lord Fitz
Eve is to WoW as Wow is to an 8 player game of Unreal Tournament.
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Coupe LeFromage
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Posted - 2008.06.11 00:00:00 -
[111]
Why in god's name would CCP RAISE a skill requirement for a ship mid stream!? After Empyrean AGE the navy vexor a corp mate of mine loaned me is now too advanced for me to operate. How did I get it here? Who knows? It will take no fewer than 6 days!? to train to fly it... What am I supposed to be between now and then? Now I am stuck in a station several jumps from any other usable craft. This is the kind of capricious, poorly concieved nonsense that makes people stop looging in, playing games, and spending monthyl fees. What's more, how much of my other stuff now no longer works!? How many other things that I have been training for, or have trained for will either no longer work or will take longer!? I cant know since you people didnt see fit to let anybody know what was going on. How about a message in eve-mail!? How about a msg to my actual RL email? How about SOME notice somewhere... somehow that the central piece of equipment I am using is now beyond my abilities. It isn't even in the change log. there are alot of players in the game who have focussed on non-combat skills, and are instead mining, researching and building and making this player centered economy you've created work. Many of those character were well served by the extra power and protection of navy issed craft, and were glad to pay extra for them to make up for not having the skill to pilot t2 alternatives. They are all screwed... and what's worse they just found out today... nice one.
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Vladimir Frye
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Posted - 2008.06.11 00:03:00 -
[112]
Originally by: SK Rooster
For me if i am in a fleet and i undock the drone window will move under the fleet window even if i locked and pinned it somewhere else.
A couple of the windows like to move where ever they damn well feel like now ( Repeatedly... ). Even after I move them someplace else ( Items Window while docked in a station for one ).
Also: noticed there's been a tad bit of inflation in the price of skillbooks now. A book that sold for 4.5mil yesterday is now close to 5mil...
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Hakuriu
Freedom Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.06.11 00:13:00 -
[113]
So when is the API going to work again?
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Ankhesentapemkah
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.06.11 00:20:00 -
[114]
I love the rank insignia.
Any more decorations in the pipeline? It would be very nice for the roleplaying community to allow corps to hand out medals, these can be in a seperate tab.
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Priums Cassar
The Caldari Confederation
Power Of 3
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Posted - 2008.06.11 00:36:00 -
[115]
I know this has been said, but just want to add my voice. You should be able to join a militia even as a member of a corp. I know there have been fears about the big alliances joining up and skewing it one way or the other, but this has entirely strangled people out.
At least a trial period would be fantastic. I was really looking forward to FW, only to be frozen out. Disappointing since this is basically the crux of the expansion.
"Life's Lessons Are Best Learned At Full Draw" |
Jessica Omeragus
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Posted - 2008.06.11 00:40:00 -
[116]
I'm REALLY confused with all the news. I'm trying to keep up, but there were so many things that happened just today I can't get a sense of what's really going on (other than the basic stuff) with the storyline. Is there a better place to view the news other than the news center?
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aicarian
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Posted - 2008.06.11 00:46:00 -
[117]
why do i have to leave my current corp to enlist in the militia? think it would be much more fun if i could do militia missions just like i do regular agent missions now
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Lana Kent
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Posted - 2008.06.11 00:49:00 -
[118]
Sigh... CCP still did not run a patch to fix my lousy typing skills.
Gonna have to wait till next time I geuss. |
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ISD Tsuki Kiyuu
ISD Interstellar Correspondents
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Posted - 2008.06.11 00:58:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Jessica Omeragus
Is there a better place to view the news other than the news center?
We've put an archive together to track all the articles released earlier today. |
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Hannibal218
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Posted - 2008.06.11 00:59:00 -
[120]
Why isnt there an option to buy a BP of the osprey navy issue in the LP store, just like with the hookbil, the caracal and the raven.
for the osprey it is only possible to get a ship for 90k LP where are the two options to get a BP one for LP and money and one for LP and tags? |
Windryder
New Fnord Industries
Black Scope Project
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Posted - 2008.06.11 01:02:00 -
[121]
Patch Installer Problems;
When you are set to use Eve Classic on a Premium installation NEITHER Patch Installer will work. The Premium patch downloads first and halts with an invalid stuff.res error then suggests you download the patch again. This time it downloads the Classic patch which then fails with an error message that makes it clear it won't install a classic patch on a Premium installation.
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Crux Australis
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.06.11 01:09:00 -
[122]
Smooth as silk *FOR ME* credit where credit is due, gj.
:)
However, dualboxing with both clients on premium still crashes my pc (and it's been months now).
:(
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torn sage
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Posted - 2008.06.11 01:11:00 -
[123]
I just joined Eve 3 weeks ago but love it already. Looking forward to even more content than expected which will keep me here for years. Here's to the future of EVE.
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Idono
Tyrell Corp
INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.06.11 01:26:00 -
[124]
Is there by any chanse that we'r going to se more of those news events in like the 1st and 2nd teaser?
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Tyrian Prime
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Posted - 2008.06.11 01:37:00 -
[125]
Auto update fails on Win xp 64bit with Sp2. :( |
Mewkro
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Posted - 2008.06.11 01:38:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Coupe LeFromage
Why in god's name would CCP RAISE a skill requirement for a ship mid stream!? After Empyrean AGE the navy vexor a corp mate of mine loaned me is now too advanced for me to operate. How did I get it here? Who knows? It will take no fewer than 6 days!? to train to fly it... What am I supposed to be between now and then? Now I am stuck in a station several jumps from any other usable craft. This is the kind of capricious, poorly concieved nonsense that makes people stop looging in, playing games, and spending monthyl fees. What's more, how much of my other stuff now no longer works!? How many other things that I have been training for, or have trained for will either no longer work or will take longer!? I cant know since you people didnt see fit to let anybody know what was going on. How about a message in eve-mail!? How about a msg to my actual RL email? How about SOME notice somewhere... somehow that the central piece of equipment I am using is now beyond my abilities. It isn't even in the change log. there are alot of players in the game who have focussed on non-combat skills, and are instead mining, researching and building and making this player centered economy you've created work. Many of those character were well served by the extra power and protection of navy issed craft, and were glad to pay extra for them to make up for not having the skill to pilot t2 alternatives. They are all screwed... and what's worse they just found out today... nice one.
clam down guy, its just a game. rage more somewhere else people might care (about the one noob who cant fly a navy vexor lulz). |
Ranger 1
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.06.11 01:42:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Coupe LeFromage
Why in god's name would CCP RAISE a skill requirement for a ship mid stream!? After Empyrean AGE the navy vexor a corp mate of mine loaned me is now too advanced for me to operate. How did I get it here? Who knows? It will take no fewer than 6 days!? to train to fly it... What am I supposed to be between now and then? Now I am stuck in a station several jumps from any other usable craft. This is the kind of capricious, poorly concieved nonsense that makes people stop looging in, playing games, and spending monthyl fees. What's more, how much of my other stuff now no longer works!? How many other things that I have been training for, or have trained for will either no longer work or will take longer!? I cant know since you people didnt see fit to let anybody know what was going on. How about a message in eve-mail!? How about a msg to my actual RL email? How about SOME notice somewhere... somehow that the central piece of equipment I am using is now beyond my abilities. It isn't even in the change log. there are alot of players in the game who have focussed on non-combat skills, and are instead mining, researching and building and making this player centered economy you've created work. Many of those character were well served by the extra power and protection of navy issed craft, and were glad to pay extra for them to make up for not having the skill to pilot t2 alternatives. They are all screwed... and what's worse they just found out today... nice one.
Take a breath for gods sake.
Obviously there was a balance issue with the new faction ships being released, and adjustments had to be made. Frankly, 6 days training is nothing in EVE so don't get your panties in such a bunch over it. Hop in a shuttle (or use a noob ship) and fly the "several jumps" to get in a different ship for a few days. Its really, really not that hard.
Look in the bright side, now there are more faction ship options to choose from and honestly, in six days it isn't really going to matter.
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Captain Ichigo
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Posted - 2008.06.11 02:56:00 -
[128]
best patch yet. factional warfare rocks |
MAXIMUS VENO
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Posted - 2008.06.11 03:06:00 -
[129]
hey, i just downloaded the patch, at the end of installing, it said 'some files locked' and the windows needs to restart. i pressed ok and it did, after reboot, it is stuck on the start windows in safe mode? or normally... it keeps rebooting over and over again ?? Need help quick! |
Kessiaan
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Posted - 2008.06.11 03:48:00 -
[130]
Edited by: Kessiaan on 11/06/2008 03:49:14
Pretty minor compared to what others are going through, but I just picked up a Blood Raider log whilst doing a mission.
Also some missions still have no music, and cause the soundtrack to pause until manually restarted or you go through an acceleration gate that has BGM associated with it.
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Tiberius Corvinus
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Posted - 2008.06.11 04:05:00 -
[131]
This talk of being forced to leave your current corp in order to participate in FW is unrealistic.
I know it's an unpopular example, but I don't think Blackwater, DynCorp or Triple Canopy -- just as the US DoD -- wouldn't let you keep your day job and work for them at the same time. The various state National Guard units would, but not when you are deployed as an active duty member.
If you want to support your faction, quit crying and join up. Otherwise, park it on the sidelines and get a hanky.
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Ehronn
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.06.11 04:38:00 -
[132]
since this expansion when trying to dual log my 2nd account all of space is solid white. Relogging doesnt fix the problem. Only way I can fix it is to log both clients off and relog and keep doing so till alt no longer has solid white screen for space.
This never occured before the patch but happens a lot at the moment for me.
Nvidia 7600 pci express 256 mb
Dunno what could be causing it havent changed any settings at all and I run 2 seperate clients from 2 different folders.
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alberttgjiu
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Posted - 2008.06.11 05:09:00 -
[133]
Hmm... after this patch all faction shield resistance amlifier have the same cpu need with t2 rezistance amplifier, my fit dont't work now |
zippodee
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Posted - 2008.06.11 05:14:00 -
[134]
Great that the game is back up and running but am dissapointed that i have to leave my corp so i can do faction fighting without haveing to have the corp in aswell as some might not want to fight. |
Arcblow
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Posted - 2008.06.11 05:43:00 -
[135]
I have to go work before i try.
Just wanted to add my protest about not being able to take part in faction war unless I drop my corp, it is not on, very disapointing.
I want to see opt in on a personal basis as a member of a factional alliance, not a faction corp. |
Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2008.06.11 06:23:00 -
[136]
Edited by: Pottsey on 11/06/2008 06:23:30
ôTwo things tho?
- ancient mystical elders from fairyland? you gotta be kidding me, I hope that's just someone's propaganda IC...ö
They have always been in the background story, apart from the fact they died over 150years ago after being killed in a prison with no way to clone. It makes know sence haveing them back alive.
I personally think this is very weak content patch after all this time, in fact I refuse to call it an expansion itÆs so small. 6 months and this is all we get!! Other MMORPG I play get more than twice as much content per patch and the large patchÆs happen in half the time of EveÆs. The roleplay storyÆs are good, thats about it.
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Nackturion
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2008.06.11 06:24:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Tiberius Corvinus
This talk of being forced to leave your current corp in order to participate in FW is unrealistic.
I know it's an unpopular example, but I don't think Blackwater, DynCorp or Triple Canopy -- just as the US DoD -- wouldn't let you keep your day job and work for them at the same time. The various state National Guard units would, but not when you are deployed as an active duty member.
If you want to support your faction, quit crying and join up. Otherwise, park it on the sidelines and get a hanky.
Yeah and this isn't RL. So you think it's cool, that CCP puts in a 'cool new feature', but to use that feature, you have to leave your corp, which for alot of people, you may have been in awhile. It's where all your friends are? Or people are forced to leave those friends because their corp joins, but they may not be into PvP? Please. Not to mention CCP didn't even /MENTION/ how it would work, which makes many feel decieved to begin with.
You shouldn't spend all that time building up a new feature and get everyone excited, and leave out the restrictions put there that would possibly limit some from joining. Simply lame all around. I'm quite disappointed and I hadn't even planned on doing it to begin with. |
Quinn DelTirith
Firman AB
101010 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.11 06:33:00 -
[138]
Just tossing in my 2 isk that not allowing people who are in an otherwise non-factional corp to join is just terrible. Frankly, it absolutely flies in the face of getting non-PvPers into PvP.
Many non-PvPers are in mining/industrial corps and don't want to leave cause their friends are there. The corps generally have people from all sorts of backgrounds. The corp therefore is unlikely to want to join up with single faction as a whole, and certainly not everybody will want to get shot at. It would be 100x more interesting if my character could join in the faction warfare while still being able to also work in the corp with friends.
I am rather hoping that this is a temporary limitation made in order to keep out bigger PvP alliances, and will be changed down the road.
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Khanto Thor
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.11 06:57:00 -
[139]
Great Job CCP, the new patch is great and seems bug free! astonished how easy it was! (obviously a lot of background work by all the developers) its a credit to all your developers.
The only one thing that is a bit disappointing is the hi-sec FW agents in verge vendor. If I accept a mission, the dead space location is 26 jumps away! I thought hi-sec mission locations would stay local.
Really enjoyed some FW pvp last night and will be fitting more ships to join in again tonight! |
Aero Zolic
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.11 06:58:00 -
[140]
Edited by: Aero Zolic on 11/06/2008 07:02:20
Props to CCP for being ahead of schedule and thanks for the expansion
Only thing is that I can't align to my bookmarks like POS-s and JB-s which I use a lot. At least I can align to the planet/moon where my POS/JB is. |
RaTTuS
BIG
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Posted - 2008.06.11 07:47:00 -
[141]
nice work CCP ...
all seems fine here |
Gizy V
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Posted - 2008.06.11 07:54:00 -
[142]
not happy with i carnt use my ship "caracal navy issue" after patch unless i train to cruiser 4.
dunno but if you wanted raise the skill you could have given all with the ship the skill for free at least.
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Tawrich Tistrya
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Posted - 2008.06.11 08:14:00 -
[143]
good : love the align button
bad : i really hate the helios look now , thank god i can cloak it.
Overall : good deployment , good fixes , very bad change to the helios , my fav t2 frig isn't pretty anymore
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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[144]
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
Originally by: thundachronic
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
OK here is how it works.
Player A and Player B are at war.
Player A and Player C are in a Gang.
Player B warps into the belt containing Players A and C.
Player A is a Valid target, but Player C is neutral to Player B.
Player B Shoots Player A. Player C remote supports Player A.
Player C, by supporting Player A is now a Valid target to Player B.
So Player C is only a Valid target if he does something to INVOLVE himself in the war.
OK. So the difference of new system is the player C cant be the first target for player B ? OK. If so - it's not bad. Excuse my reflection.
And we all hope in new patch that remote repper C will start FLASHING red immidiately he starts rep A for ALL who shooting A. And if there are D and E in gang with player B - C must flash for D and E even if they didnt shoot A.
Is last sentence correct in this patch ?
That is how it should work.
There may be a second or 2 for the overview to update, but yes Player C should, after supporting Player A become a valid war target to Players B, D and E.
How would this work if say player C activates a gang link mod, giving quite a boost to player A?
also I believe I remember reading that attacking someone involved in factional warfare would result in standing drops to that militia's faction
1) is that correct?
2) what if that player shoots me first?
3) what if I agress due to a normal war, or they are less than -5 sec, or they stole from me?
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DGASINISTER
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Posted - 2008.06.11 08:46:00 -
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great job ccp keep it up
one bad thing tho, needing a 0.5 to join faction sux. i'm not big on the whole mission thing. I'm a miner that is making his way to t2 ships and wants to join the war and then this curve ball pops out of blue, now i have like 68 missions to do including 4 storylines.
can anything be done to lower the required state standing of 0.5 to say like 0.3
or am i just screwed on this?? |
Ottman
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Posted - 2008.06.11 08:55:00 -
[146]
well from my side, it could be still trinity, me dont need any stuff like faction warfare when player has no control about his faction standing gain, i miss the player based control mechanism and the possibility just to run missions to earn isk and with deactivated faction standing gain, we as players and paying customers should have the opportunity to choice if we want to raise faction standings or not, oh i forget, its not graphics so we maybe never will see that ? then i will just ignore the faction warfare thing because it based on the same game mechanics as before what means trouble for those who dont want roleplay and keep all the possibilities for themselves open.
eve is to complex that you nail your own ass ingame so early, we want to explore not only the space also eve itself ! and you ccp should not shut the door about it !!
MfG ottman |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.06.11 08:57:00 -
[147]
Originally by: DGASINISTER
great job ccp keep it up
one bad thing tho, needing a 0.5 to join faction sux. i'm not big on the whole mission thing. I'm a miner that is making his way to t2 ships and wants to join the war and then this curve ball pops out of blue, now i have like 68 missions to do including 4 storylines.
can anything be done to lower the required state standing of 0.5 to say like 0.3
or am i just screwed on this??
imo you should have been doing missions to reduce your refine tax anyways
and if you are anywhere near close to t2 ships well you should be able to fly through missions real quick |
Farrellus Cameron
Sturmgrenadier Inc
Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2008.06.11 09:23:00 -
[148]
How about a forum dedicated to Faction Warfare? |
IlluminatedOne
Tycho Brahe Fan Club
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Posted - 2008.06.11 09:24:00 -
[149]
I'm having quite an issue with the Refine window: once it is opened (I've chosen "Reprocess" from the menu), I can no longer refine anything until this window is closed - seems like client refuses to acknowledge the opened refinery? I have to close the refinery window and click on "reprocess" again. |
domelicious2
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Posted - 2008.06.11 09:36:00 -
[150]
I've been a member for about 16 days, I love space thingies therefore I love EVE.....excellent game guys, thanks!
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CCP Explorer
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Posted - 2008.06.11 09:40:00 -
[151]
Originally by: Aero Zolic
Only thing is that I can't align to my bookmarks like POS-s and JB-s which I use a lot. At least I can align to the planet/moon where my POS/JB is.
This is by design, you can't align to bookmarks, only celestial objects.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson
Software Director
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CCP Explorer
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Posted - 2008.06.11 09:41:00 -
[152]
Edited by: CCP Explorer on 11/06/2008 09:41:33
Originally by: IlluminatedOne
I'm having quite an issue with the Refine window: once it is opened (I've chosen "Reprocess" from the menu), I can no longer refine anything until this window is closed - seems like client refuses to acknowledge the opened refinery? I have to close the refinery window and click on "reprocess" again.
Thanks, we know about this and are looking into it. There is the work-around you mention.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson
Software Director
EVE Online, CCP Games |
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tripodbilly
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Posted - 2008.06.11 10:29:00 -
[153]
cant wait to join the war against caldri and anyone else not gallente!! Hopefully this will mesh the PvP pilots and provide people like me with some good PvP with experanced players. Cheers CCP cant wait 10 hours till i leave my corp
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Hugh Ruka
Exploratio et Industria Morispatia
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Posted - 2008.06.11 10:43:00 -
[154]
why is the Gallente/Caldari story so flat and unrealistic ?
I mean even taking into account the backstory conflict about the Elders, Minmatar/Amarr story was very good.
PLEASE rework the Caldari/Gallente story or delete it as it is ... |
Ethidium Bromide
ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.11 10:48:00 -
[155]
newsfeed was great! |
alberttgjiu
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Posted - 2008.06.11 11:06:00 -
[156]
Before this patch "Pithum C-Type" shield resistance amplifier consume just 21 cpu and now is 30 cpu , why?
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Osric Wuscfrea
Icarus' Wings
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Posted - 2008.06.11 11:08:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Hakuriu
So when is the API going to work again?
Usually 24 hours AFTER the patch was deployed. So the small hours of tonight I suspect... |
KTR92
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Posted - 2008.06.11 11:15:00 -
[158]
Thank u ccp, i thought empyrean would be coming out in august or something, i guess not! Lovin the new login screen btw!
U Rock CCP! \m/
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Thetis Midvar
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Posted - 2008.06.11 11:30:00 -
[159]
absolutely no problems here, excellent work CCP, best deployment ever!
Loved the news updates during DT, even found myself cheering outload as I read them
I'm off to tour the battlefields while I wait for my corp's move into the militia, then it's time to go hunt down Jamyl Sarum |
Chupracabra
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Posted - 2008.06.11 11:34:00 -
[160]
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
Originally by: thundachronic
Quote:
Joining a Fleet with a player who is currently involved in a war will no longer make you a valid target in that war. CONCORD will now respond if a player who is not involved in a war is aggressed within a gang in High Security space.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING !? DO YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND !?
You are killing high sec war ! Now ALL will fly with support of INVULNERABLE logistics and wipe out all who try fight fair with corp mates only.
Can you explain why you are doing so ?
OK here is how it works.
Player A and Player B are at war.
Player A and Player C are in a Gang.
Player B warps into the belt containing Players A and C.
Player A is a Valid target, but Player C is neutral to Player B.
Player B Shoots Player A. Player C remote supports Player A.
Player C, by supporting Player A is now a Valid target to Player B.
So Player C is only a Valid target if he does something to INVOLVE himself in the war.
<3 genius |
Fifth Horseman
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Posted - 2008.06.11 11:49:00 -
[161]
Anybody else not getting Killmails for destroyed POS modules? |
Dosgar
Rude Boys
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Posted - 2008.06.11 11:49:00 -
[162]
I was pleased with the fact that the patch went through quickly and efficiently (especially as I wasn't quick enough to set a new skill training before downtime)
But I think whoever decided to change the Helios hull to that of an Imicus should be fired.
I understand that it fits in with the Imicus being a T1 astrometrics frigate and the Helios is an improved version, but it's just so ugly, I doubt I could even sell mine now, even with the rigs.
Otherwise I'm not having problems so far. |
Scrutt5
Snuff inc
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Posted - 2008.06.11 11:58:00 -
[163]
I upgraded my machine to run premium graphics with this patch, having not seen them before coupled with the low serc action last night... I'm blown away.
Great work CCP.
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2008.06.11 12:12:00 -
[164]
ôI mean even taking into account the backstory conflict about the Elders, Minmatar/Amarr story was very good.ö
Good? it was massively flawed making no sense. LetÆs bring back dead people from both the Minmatar and Amarr without any reason. People who couldnÆt have been cloned and had been dead for over 150 years.
Perhaps the Novel explains how in which case I take back my comments. But right now it seems like whoever is writing the story is ignoring the background story and just bringing dead people back without explaining why they are not dead.
The way the Caldari just walked into the Gallente capital system was unbelievable. Then there was the Amarrians in total disarray, then suddenly another dead person comes back and all is ok. Without reason he can suddenly control and manage the Ammar fleet thatÆs was in disarray. Then with 12 battleships he took on and blows up an entire Minmatar fleet of 100+ cap ships?
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Telltale sign of their presence is non-linear teleportation
(www.eve-online.com/races/theodicy/Theodicy_All.pdf)
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AC Resonance
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.06.11 12:15:00 -
[165]
Edited by: AC Resonance on 11/06/2008 12:18:19
Great work so far.
However, I ran into a snag
Apparently social skill bonuses (i.e: connections) don't count towards faction standing when you go to join Faction warfare.
It's not a bug. I bug reported it and was told it's not a bug.
So whats the point of social skills again? If the devs can pick and choose what aspects of game play it effects and which it doesn't why bother having them at all? The idea of connections allowing you to join FW sooner even makes RP sense so why not allow the figured stats count?
It does n't make a whole lot of sense to me.
*editted for terrible spelling*
Other than that good work from what Ive seen so far.
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Tabea Knute
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Posted - 2008.06.11 12:30:00 -
[166]
One question: How will be a Corp (joined militia) affected by the war dec system?
Scenario: Pirate Corp A will war dec Corp B, that has joined Militia. In my understanding Corp B is now member of the faction itself. Does a war dec now means, that Pirate Corp A has war deced the whole faction? And if not, why not?
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ZMasterz
Pothouse Cartel
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Posted - 2008.06.11 12:36:00 -
[167]
From Patchnotes
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EVE Voice, Mail & Chat
* A new channel is created for each Faction Militia which acts like an ôAllianceö channel. It appears by default for anyone in a Factional Warfare flagged Corporation. It can, unlike normal Alliance channels, be closed and re-opened through the channels window. Non-flagged players cannot gain access to this channel
I can¦t close that channel, and even though i turned Blink Off alraedy, it¦s driving me crazy.
Is that a feature or a bug ? :)
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zoolkhan
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
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Posted - 2008.06.11 12:46:00 -
[168]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Moncada
Will we get the news stories that was during DT to the normal news section? I liked them alot :P
Yes, they will soon be added to the normal news system.
the news stories mentioned video feeds - SHOW THEM TO US , the teasers were so great... i want all ingame-news presented that way
please. I am ready to pay 50 euro cent more per month for an extra rendering team. (0.5c *>200.000 subsciprions = >100k - should pay the salary:-)
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Zulu Six
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.11 12:48:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Estel Arador
My overview settings were reset, I thought that no longer happened with patches?
My overview presets weren't deleted (if that's what you're referring to? I'm not certain tbh). However, with Trinity, a problem started happening where I would set one overview preset active while in space, say my 0.0 Ratting preset. Then hostiles would come in, I'd x-up (I rat in a pvp setup) for defense, switch the overview to my Fleet Ops - 0.0 Combat preset, pewpew, win/lose/draw, whatever... so I go back to my 0.0 Ratting preset and continue with what I was doing. Now, later, say I run out of ammo so I dock. When I undock, the overview now says Default (Not Saved) and is basically the Fleet Ops - 0.0 Combat preset (despite having been set to something else before I docked). It's not a big problem, but it's bloody annoying.
Also, the positioning of my drone bay window, which is pinned just like the Selected Object and Overview windows, is not saved. I have it set on the bottom right, beneath by overview. I dock and undock, now it's shifted far to the left of where I left it, covering some of my modules on the UI but it's STILL pinned, so in order to correct this I have to unpin it, drag it back to where it's supposed to be, and re-pin it. Again, it's not a big problem but it's bloody annoying.
Before Empyrean Age went live, if I would join a fleet, the Broadcast window would pop up where my overview was, snapping my overview and selected object and drone bay windows all over the place, some even going partially or totally off-screen! - if I dared join a fleet while in a place that wasn't safe, I would probably die simply due to having to unpin and move every window on my screen back where it was before I could even begin to think about fighting back. This was a big problem imo. Now, though, it's not quite as bad - my overview and selected object windows don't get flung off screen anymore. I don't understand what went wrong that caused joining fleets to affect the placement of pre-existing windows at all - it wasn't like this in Revelations.
It's not omgendoftheworld bad. And in general I either like or don't mind the problems with the UI... but having most of your UI (the windows) get screwed up every time you dock/undock or join a fleet is a serious drag. |
Calvin Okone
Astropolitan Front
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Posted - 2008.06.11 12:49:00 -
[170]
Well I played a bit last night, and started exploring Black Rise. Nice job CCP can't wait to join a militia. also Kudos on the news feed during downtime. that was great. I am pretty sure I overloaded my sites proxy server pressing the refresh button looking for updates. And while I agree with some of the folks here the Gallente/Caldari arc was a little less than impressive seeing a Titan in Luminaire was very cool. |
Iohan Sjet
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.06.11 13:02:00 -
[171]
Edited by: Iohan Sjet on 11/06/2008 13:02:46
Really nice expansion so far. Only 2 complaints:
1)Luminaire had soo much lag I was playing a Turn based strategy game last night.
2) When Are you updating the Site Item DB to included Trinity, Empyrean Age and the Current faction ships?
Point 2 has been a major bug bear for me for ages. I've signed numerous petitions on the forums and started a few myself. It seems that this issue always gets ignored.
As much as I like going to third party sites, I would like the info to be here.
Whinge complete.. |
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CCP Navigator
C C P
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Posted - 2008.06.11 13:20:00 -
[172]
Hello everyone,
Delighted to hear that you are all enjoying the expansion so much
Please find below a further addition to the Patch Notes. As always, all additional Patch Notes are highlighted in green on the main Patch page.
Changes
Skills
Caldari Cruiser skill now needs to be trained to Level IV in order to fly the Caracal Navy Issue cruiser.
Navigator
Community Representative
CCP Hf, EVE Online
Email / Netfang
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ZMasterz
Pothouse Cartel
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Posted - 2008.06.11 14:07:00 -
[173]
Edited by: ZMasterz on 11/06/2008 14:08:34
Could you take a look into the issue i posted 6 posts above please :)
I¦m just assuming that i¦m not the only one who would like to close the Militia Channel ... and even if, it¦s still in the Patchnotes :P
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CCP Lingorm
C C P
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Posted - 2008.06.11 14:17:00 -
[174]
Originally by: ZMasterz
Edited by: ZMasterz on 11/06/2008 12:38:54
From Patchnotes
Quote:
EVE Voice, Mail & Chat
* A new channel is created for each Faction Militia which acts like an ôAllianceö channel. It appears by default for anyone in a Factional Warfare flagged Corporation. It can, unlike normal Alliance channels, be closed and re-opened through the channels window. Non-flagged players cannot gain access to this channel
I can¦t close that "Militia" channel, and even though i turned it "Blink Off" already, it¦s driving me crazy.
Now, can we leave it and i¦m just not seeing how (tried in Channels & Mailing Lists, no "Leave" Button, no rightclick options, nothing), or is it bugged, or are the Patchnotes wrong, or have i eaten too much applepie
Great work with that patch btw CCP :)
The Militia Chanel works like a Corp or Alliance (if your Player corp is signed up for Factional Warfare) so you can not close it.
CCP Lingorm
CCP Quality Assurance
QA Engineering Team Leader
Originally by: Lord Fitz
Eve is to WoW as Wow is to an 8 player game of Unreal Tournament.
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ZMasterz
Pothouse Cartel
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Posted - 2008.06.11 14:20:00 -
[175]
*damnit*
Thanks for clarifying this, might want to change the Patchnotes though :) |
Pseudo Sasaya
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Posted - 2008.06.11 14:41:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Kamorius
I'm pretty sure this is the thread for constructive feedback. Take your whining elsewhere.
The thread is for feedback, good and bad. While there are people who are really happy with the expansion, there are plenty of people who are going 'great, ignored for another patch cycle, fantastic', and they have as much right to voice their feedback as all of the 'great job!' peeps. |
Siresa Talesi
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.06.11 15:01:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Ranger 1
Originally by: Coupe LeFromage
Why in god's name would CCP RAISE a skill requirement for a ship mid stream!? After Empyrean AGE the navy vexor a corp mate of mine loaned me is now too advanced for me to operate. How did I get it here? Who knows? It will take no fewer than 6 days!? to train to fly it... What am I supposed to be between now and then? Now I am stuck in a station several jumps from any other usable craft. This is the kind of capricious, poorly concieved nonsense that makes people stop looging in, playing games, and spending monthyl fees. What's more, how much of my other stuff now no longer works!? How many other things that I have been training for, or have trained for will either no longer work or will take longer!? I cant know since you people didnt see fit to let anybody know what was going on. How about a message in eve-mail!? How about a msg to my actual RL email? How about SOME notice somewhere... somehow that the central piece of equipment I am using is now beyond my abilities. It isn't even in the change log. there are alot of players in the game who have focussed on non-combat skills, and are instead mining, researching and building and making this player centered economy you've created work. Many of those character were well served by the extra power and protection of navy issed craft, and were glad to pay extra for them to make up for not having the skill to pilot t2 alternatives. They are all screwed... and what's worse they just found out today... nice one.
Take a breath for gods sake.
Obviously there was a balance issue with the new faction ships being released, and adjustments had to be made. Frankly, 6 days training is nothing in EVE so don't get your panties in such a bunch over it. Hop in a shuttle (or use a noob ship) and fly the "several jumps" to get in a different ship for a few days. Its really, really not that hard.
Look in the bright side, now there are more faction ship options to choose from and honestly, in six days it isn't really going to matter.
Yeah, that's it, take a shuttle; they're cheap and easily available -
Oh, wait... |
Ilor Prophet
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Posted - 2008.06.11 15:06:00 -
[178]
Originally by: Nackturion
So you think it's cool, that CCP puts in a 'cool new feature', but to use that feature, you have to leave your corp, which for alot of people, you may have been in awhile. It's where all your friends are? Or people are forced to leave those friends because their corp joins, but they may not be into PvP? Please. Not to mention CCP didn't even /MENTION/ how it would work, which makes many feel decieved to begin with.
did you even read the dev blogs coming out weeks before the expansion? CCP explained exactly how it would work.
I'm in a 0.0 alliance, so factional warfare is out for me. But I'm totally OK with that because, hey, I have alts! I might even get off my arse and start a second account. FW here I come! |
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CCP Navigator
C C P
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Posted - 2008.06.11 15:09:00 -
[179]
The following change did not make it into this expansion and has received a strikethrough in the Patch Notes:
Changes
Agents & Missions
The mission "Bountiful Bandine" has been restricted to level one agents only. |
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Tracy Jacks
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Posted - 2008.06.11 15:52:00 -
[180]
Edited by: Tracy Jacks on 11/06/2008 15:52:35
Great RP story line except for one thing. while some people are moaning about the Caldari waltzing into Gallente space so easily, my gripe is with the timing of the militia thing. why, after CONCORD have 'restored' reactionary responses to aggression, would they approve the Militia Bill?
If this had been a response to the loss of their HQ as an assumption that they would not be able to regain control it would have made sense, but it was added so late on that it doesn't work as a plot twist surely? Everyone had retreated (except for the force over Caldari Prime) and everything had pretty much finished when CONCORD say, 'yeah, sorry we lost control, Jita got smashed, Gallente got invaded and the Amarr/Minmitar thing kicked off but we aren't going to do anything about it, oh and start some militias so you can do it again on the sly...'
Did I miss something?
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Nackturion
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2008.06.11 16:25:00 -
[181]
Edited by: Nackturion on 11/06/2008 16:28:33
Edited by: Nackturion on 11/06/2008 16:28:05
Originally by: Ilor Prophet
did you even read the dev blogs coming out weeks before the expansion? CCP explained exactly how it would work.
I'm in a 0.0 alliance, so factional warfare is out for me. But I'm totally OK with that because, hey, I have alts! I might even get off my arse and start a second account. FW here I come!
I do admit my error in them not mentioning Corps having to read alliance, but I did go back and read the Dev blog, and they dont simply just come out and say 'You have to leave your player corp to particpate in FW'. You could read it 'between the lines', but I shouldn't have had to read between the lines.
As to the alt thing, not everyone has alts (me being one and others I know). Either because they can't be afforded or their just not an alt person. I hear the 'use the alt' line alot with this. Sorry, i'll have an alt when CCP allows me to train skills for 2 characters on the same account (which there is absolutely no justification for not allowing), instead of just trying to milk more money out of me. So that line doesn't float for me.
It still stands that they put in a huge feature with even greater restrictions. For me and others I know, this 'reward' just isn't worth the 'risk' of breaking longtime friendships or even short ones.
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2ippy
Omega Xen
Novus Aevum
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Posted - 2008.06.11 16:34:00 -
[182]
I just whant to say thanks to all the ccp dev team they did a super job ....this game keeps getting betterKeep up the good work ccp
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Baroness D
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Posted - 2008.06.11 16:56:00 -
[183]
Okay you left out a very important change in your notes. Or hid it so well I can't find it.
I'm referring to the change in the way skill Books are priced.
Seriously do you guys hate new customers so much your looking for a new way to get them out of the game? Because I can see them being the most effected by this. If I had just started and saw that the price on books kept going up as I tried to scrimp and save for them I'm pretty certain I would have quite before I paid any money to CCP.
This change deserves an F for effect and also failure to include this clearly in the patch notes. It should be immediately reviewed and changed back before it does more damage to EVE's reputation. We have enough of that already. |
aicarian
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Posted - 2008.06.11 19:34:00 -
[184]
CCP input on complaints about leaving corp for FW please. are you planning on changing this eventually, or are people unwilling to leave corp just SOL? would love to be involved but abandoning my corp is out of the question |
Van Hubern
Purifying Flame - Phoenix Reborn
Elite Trade Group
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Posted - 2008.06.11 20:03:00 -
[185]
I'm very happy with the "Align To" button.
Before the patch: everyone in fleet spent 20 seconds franticly swooping their camera views about trying to see the next gate en route, starting to warp, stopping after alignment, then starting up the engines again to fly toward the next gate in formation, hoping to get up enough speed before the fleet commander tries to warp the fleet in unison, then everybody waiting (hopefully) for the stragglers who didn't quite align fast enough.
After the patch: everybody jumps through a gate, taps the Align To button, and they're all flying in the same direction toward the next gate. (Well, most of them are flying in the right direction. There's always somebody.)
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CCP Explorer
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Posted - 2008.06.11 20:38:00 -
[186]
Edited by: CCP Explorer on 11/06/2008 20:39:14
Originally by: Zulu Six
When I undock, the overview now says Default (Not Saved) and is basically the Fleet Ops - 0.0 Combat preset (despite having been set to something else before I docked).
This is just a visual bug, the filters applied are the ones you last used, but the name set is the default name. Has been fixed in an internal build.
Quote:
Also, the positioning of my drone bay window, which is pinned just like the Selected Object and Overview windows, is not saved. I have it set on the bottom right, beneath by overview. I dock and undock, now it's shifted far to the left of where I left it, covering some of my modules on the UI
We made a lot of fixes to the overview and to window behaviour in general in this expansion. There was one case that we could not fix this time, and that is the edge case you describe. The way that vertical window stacks work is that we store the individual window sizes and the order of the windows and the location of the top left corner of the stack. The stack is then recreated by aligning the windows on their left corner. You probably have the drone window slightly narrower than the overview, aligned at the right corner and the drone window then moves from the right corner to the left corner. The work-around is to align the drone window (at the 16mm snap-to) to the bottom right corner of the window but make sure that there is some space between the drone window and the overview. If they don't touch then the drone window is not a part of the selected item / overview window stack and will stay put.
Quote:
having most of your UI (the windows) get screwed up every time you dock/undock or join a fleet is a serious drag.
But that's not a problem anymore, right? We fixed it all, right?
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson
Software Director
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Haloxx
Star Section 9
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Posted - 2008.06.11 20:53:00 -
[187]
Originally by: CCP Explorer
Quote:
having most of your UI (the windows) get screwed up every time you dock/undock or join a fleet is a serious drag.
But that's not a problem anymore, right? We fixed it all, right?
I can confirm that you (on my system) fixed it.
I had the problem that my overview and selected item-window was reset on every undock. Then I cleaned my cache, relogged today and the problem was solved!
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Vahligmarr
1st Special Pilots Hippeis Group
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Posted - 2008.06.11 21:31:00 -
[188]
first of all, FW somehow sounds like a cool expansion to an already great game....but for me as a player older than a year, i ask why should i join in FW if i have to leave my current corp and have to fear that i could be attacked everywhere as soon as i am in my militia. i wont risk crystal implants or something like that in FW. looks like FW is perfectly suited for alts and new players.
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Poreuomai
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
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Posted - 2008.06.11 21:40:00 -
[189]
Edited by: Poreuomai on 11/06/2008 21:45:22
I love the new cheetah look!
Also a big thumbs up for the "Align To" feature.
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Death Cry
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Posted - 2008.06.11 22:37:00 -
[190]
O/
CCP ty for the best time i have had in eve...Was endless fighting in auga area...was killed several times but it was so much fun for a carebear ...very chaotic and intense....
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Zarch AlDain
Hematite Rose
Bionic Dawn
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Posted - 2008.06.11 22:54:00 -
[191]
Originally by: aicarian
CCP input on complaints about leaving corp for FW please. are you planning on changing this eventually, or are people unwilling to leave corp just SOL? would love to be involved but abandoning my corp is out of the question
Your corp can join FW.
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shubb123
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Posted - 2008.06.11 23:35:00 -
[192]
i agree i shouldnt have to leave my corp for FW as my whole corp doesnt want to be war targets
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Dosgar
Rude Boys
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Posted - 2008.06.12 00:33:00 -
[193]
When will the Helios hull be changed back?
Seriously, you can't leave it like that. People with Amarr Frigate V mock me when I uncloak :( |
Yobyort
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Posted - 2008.06.12 00:42:00 -
[194]
Just curious...why was the planned added jump from Haajinen to Elanoda nixed? 
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Real Poison
Mutually Assured Destruction
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.06.12 06:33:00 -
[195]
Originally by: Poreuomai
Edited by: Poreuomai on 11/06/2008 22:17:59
I love the new cheetah look!
Also a big thumbs up for the "Align To" feature.
Oh and thank you for putting the 'sun' animation back in.
cheetah look, well it's ok. but what was the reason for this change?
Align To: awesome, i always wondered why there was no such feature
Sun animation: yeah it looks nice again, but when you have your overview set up to not show anything but hostile ships you'll have a hard time warping away from a sun.
The corona covers 100% of the screen even when zoom as far out as possible.
PLEASE CCP, REMOVE THE RIGHT CLICK FROM THE CORONA, WHEN WARPED TO SUN THERE IS NO WAY TO WARP TO ANY SAFESPOT?!? WTF?!?
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sugark
Invicta.
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Posted - 2008.06.12 07:52:00 -
[196]
Very smooth patch, the DT news were a great read and last night I headed out with the guys in my Ishtar - haven¦t had that much fun in ages! Awesome job! My only gripe is that there is yet *another* channel
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Poreuomai
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
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Posted - 2008.06.12 08:22:00 -
[197]
Edited by: Poreuomai on 12/06/2008 08:26:34
Originally by: Real Poison
Sun animation: yeah it looks nice again, but when you have your overview set up to not show anything but hostile ships you'll have a hard time warping away from a sun.
Click on the triangle in the top left corner of the screen.
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aicarian
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Posted - 2008.06.12 10:03:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Zarch AlDain
Originally by: aicarian
CCP input on complaints about leaving corp for FW please. are you planning on changing this eventually, or are people unwilling to leave corp just SOL? would love to be involved but abandoning my corp is out of the question
Your corp can join FW.
yes i know, my corp is not small and isn't about to leave our alliance so that we can all join on one side and have half the people quit so they can be on another. not to mention moving out of 0.0, you must be crazy.
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Aschella
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Posted - 2008.06.12 10:30:00 -
[199]
Seems to be okay so far. I only pray that one day there will be a fix to the displayed missile damage values bug when using BCS.
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Death Cry
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Posted - 2008.06.12 12:08:00 -
[200]
o/
PLz understand it was ccp's goal to get ppl out of high sec..(0.5 and above ) into p vp
...the fw has done that . CCP has stated to many times in to many empyr dev blogs that this is the roollout of fw ...and they will be tweaking it. I would have never gone into low sec or o.o for any reason b4 fw..and now i am meatsheild maniac...plz read the dev bloga and hear the ccp interviews ..then complain.. U naysayers about fw have not done your homework... FW was not designed to exclude o.o alliances.. it was designed to get carebears out and into the most exciting and thrilling aspect of eve...P v P..
MY hat is off to ccp for fw and always TRYING to make eve better
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Neoisis
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Posted - 2008.06.12 13:18:00 -
[201]
For me nearly nothing changes with Empyrian Age. I wish the interface would have been improved instead of introducing some factional warfare. I suppose having alliances to fight each other wasn't enough. I would have been happier if some UI improvements would have happened. The interface really needs a major overhaul with every UI element being movable, more keyboard shortcuts, a windowmanager...
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Calvin Okone
Astropolitan Front
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Posted - 2008.06.12 13:57:00 -
[202]
I agree with Tracy Jacks.
Storyline was kinda weird, about how they passed the Militia bill. i think they should have lowered CONCORD's counterthreat capacity. Also would it be possible to have a CONCORD militia? I'd like to fight for CONCORD in something other than RP. |
Balen Organa
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Posted - 2008.06.12 16:29:00 -
[203]
Should be in tonight to try this out. I am still unsure of faction war but I will learn. |
Nackturion
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2008.06.12 19:55:00 -
[204]
Originally by: aicarian
Edited by: aicarian on 12/06/2008 10:10:42
Originally by: Zarch AlDain
Originally by: aicarian
CCP input on complaints about leaving corp for FW please. are you planning on changing this eventually, or are people unwilling to leave corp just SOL? would love to be involved but abandoning my corp is out of the question
Your corp can join FW.
yes i know, my corp is not small and isn't about to leave our alliance so that we can all join on one side and have half the people quit so they can be on another. not to mention moving out of 0.0, you must be crazy.
just want clarification from ccp what, if anything, are they going to do about this? right now it seems they only made this for new players and carebears with little thought for people already living in 0.0 with loyalty to a corp and alliance.
Just as a side note,'carebears' also have corps and alliances they've become friends/loyal to :/ |
Raeenson
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Posted - 2008.06.12 19:57:00 -
[205]
First Impressions from a noob
Being relatively new to eve, I was pleased to see this expansion coming as trying to pvp against veteran players tends to leave me broke. As ceo of our small corp, I signed up my friends and I as soon as I was able. So I take my Brutix out to Villore and on the way see a fleet forming up a couple jumps away and decide to give it a shot.
At first it was pretty tame meeting only 1 or 2 caldari at a time and we take a instalation. Then we move deeper in caldari space and get stomped. It wouldnt have been so bad if it werent for the lag. I expected to get blown up but to be able to at least see some of it would of been cool.
Ok, I ask around a bit only to find out after the fact that i should of taken off the effects to not lag out so much. Fine, done. Try again.
Ok, well since I can't afford to lose another Brutix, I go in an incursus and stop at villore for a militia mission. Grab a lvl 1 mission and this nut case sends me 14 jumps away (11 in low sec) to go kill a commander. So I zip through low sec to get to the mission area and find 4 cruisers with 5-6 frigs. Hmm. Well the devs said the missions would be on par with the ones out there already, even easier, so I head in. Well by the time I got close enough to target them I had to warp out and made it with only 3/4 of my hull left. A lvl 1 mission!!!
Fudge that, I head back to Villore to tell that agent where he can shove his mission when I come across another fleet forming up. So we romped around Black Rise all evening and even if my contribution was minimal, I had a hoot of a good time and will strongly encourage my friends to come along next time.
Things I liked:
-Being able to go pew pew things in low sec
-The capturing of instalations, pretty cool IMO
-The potential to learn a lot of new tactics without dying for every single lesson learnt
-Quick implementation, great job there, cheers
Things I didnt like so much:
-Missions, even though I only took one, it was much more than I expected. I can do pretty much any lvl 1 mission in an incursus and that one was near impossible alone IMO. 30 jumps just to go and come back for a diferent ship is a big time sink and the reward was like...meh.
So in conclusion I rate FW a 8/10, great stuff overall, mission might need a bit of balancing.
Rae
Opinions are like asses, everyone has one and only yours doesn't seem to stink as much
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Fuma Flautai
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Posted - 2008.06.12 20:16:00 -
[206]
Originally by: Poreuomai
Edited by: Poreuomai on 12/06/2008 08:26:34
Click on the triangle in the top left corner of the screen.
Oh. So this is the new Helios look that people have been complaining about :D
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Old Bone
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Posted - 2008.06.12 23:53:00 -
[207]
hmm. feedback...
i fly two 6m sp combat orientated pilots in min space. mostly mish running. it's easy isk, and i dont have a lot of time to play.
day 1
i log in after patch and find our ceo has signed us up for FW. all good, he gave us warning.
my base of ops is 16 jumps from the front, but the boss is screaming so i jump into a couple of AFs and bolt for the front line just in time so see a min blob get shredded.
the USA starts going to bed and there's a half hour of stuffing about while new FCs are found and a new fleet starts to gather. find one with a pommie accent who seems like he knows what he's up to. we then go for a bit of a romp, and revenge is sweet. a couple new additions to my kill board.
day 2
i spend 2 hours shifting my base of ops closer to the front line. this time i take my normal combat duo, a passive drake and a mael with a couple of permaboost shield transporters that doubles the drakes passive. we romp. another couple of additions to my kill board.
ok, observations/feedback.
price of ammo is going up in rens. significantly.
i havent made one single isk in 2 days and i dont really care. i might have to sell some of the hardware i've been stashing...
the ship restrictions on the plex gates means most ships in a fleet are cruiser and smaller. this is fine by me, it'll give me something to do with the caracal and stabber bpo. it also means the drakemael was overkill. fine by me... less isk to risk. better for the noobs too.
organisation is low. it's an npc corp so there is no real authority in the militia. we spend more time trying to find a good FC than we did romping.
people are still learning FW mechanics. it's kind of fun to try and figure stuff out instead of just googling it.
for the first time in god knows how long the local gate from highsec into lowsec isnt gate camped. the campers have joined the militia or the traffic is just too high. and the one time a pirate did lock me down, a quick yelp on militia and he was gone, gone gone...
and... i'm loving it. thanks guys
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Dosgar
Rude Boys
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Posted - 2008.06.13 00:19:00 -
[208]
Hi, yeah, I logged in today and my Helios still has the Imicus hull. What's the ETA on this bug being fixed? |
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CCP Navigator
C C P
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Posted - 2008.06.13 07:23:00 -
[209]
One new addition and several amendments have been made to the Patch notes as follows:
FEATURES
User Interface
In addition to being able to configure the buttons of the Neocom, a function to configure the World Information in the in-flight view has been added. To do this, right-click on the Neocom panel, select Configure >> World Information. You will be able to hide or show the following information, where it is available:
Nearest
Occupancy
Sovereignty
Sovereignty Level
Constellation
Region
Security Level
EVE Voice, Mail & Chat
A new channel is created for each Faction Militia which acts like an Alliance channel and includes everyone in the Militia whether youÆre a direct member of the Militia or member of a player corporation in the Militia. In addition to this there is another channel created for those who are direct members of the Militia which function as a ôCorporationö channel, this channel is not available for those in a player corporation that has joined the Militia. Non-flagged players cannot gain access to these channels.
POST PATCH CHANGES
Empyrean Age 1.0.0-1 Server-side changes, released 12 June 2008
The threshold at which a solar system in factional warfare becomes vulnerable has been lowered.
Two Game Master tools that were broken have been fixed allowing the Game Masters to assist you better. |
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Anticon Chor
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Posted - 2008.06.14 11:09:00 -
[210]
Oooh yes, that little "Align To" button deserves the grand prize for utility. It's the small things that matter so much. Thanks CCP . Now if only we could drop the message "Those items are not stackable", life in EA would be truly grand.
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Llee'la
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.15 02:41:00 -
[211]
You know what else would be even better? If repackaging abunch of items skipped the damage ones so you'd know which to repair.
w |
Rayne Jameson
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Posted - 2008.06.15 16:04:00 -
[212]
i second previous two posts :)
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.06.16 02:54:00 -
[213]
the reprocessing window is sideways
its freaking me out seriously I don't like it 
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Thaylon Sen
Selectus Pravus Lupus
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Posted - 2008.06.16 06:57:00 -
[214]
FW = Major win... thx ccp
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Luigi Thirty
19th Star Logistics
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Posted - 2008.06.16 22:49:00 -
[215]
Daniel Jackson?
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DOMINIX IS INVINCIBLEBLUE:(((( |
Luthar Carrock
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Posted - 2008.06.17 19:10:00 -
[216]
Indeed.
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Nicola Sardonicus
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Posted - 2008.06.19 07:00:00 -
[217]
Originally by: Llee'la
You know what else would be even better? If repackaging abunch of items skipped the damage ones so you'd know which to repair.
What would be even simpler (far too simple for CCP to figure it out) would be to have a mark on any module, drone, ship, etc. that's damaged, like a red triangle in the upper right-hand corner which is currently unused. Actually, your suggestion would still be good even if the damage marking was implemented, so that large blocks of modules, etc. would be highlighted and repackaged all at once even if there were a couple of damaged ones in the middle.
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War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength. |
Kora Bequin
Strix Armaments and Defence
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Posted - 2008.06.20 23:40:00 -
[218]
Our corporation currently is having FW issues and I'm wondering if it's by design.
Essentially, what's happened is that 2 non-Gallente RP alliances have declared war on us since we're a more noticeable corp within the Gallente militia.
The problem is that this gives those alliances free reign to kill our newer pilots in lowsec and we simply cannot fight back due to their numbers. They are only hostile to us and not the whole militia so even our FW allies cannot help us without hurting their security standings. This is almost an exploit.
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Aldrad
Point of No Return
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Posted - 2008.06.21 14:54:00 -
[219]
Originally by: Kora Bequin
The problem is that this gives those alliances free reign to kill our newer pilots in lowsec and we simply cannot fight back due to their numbers. They are only hostile to us and not the whole militia so even our FW allies cannot help us without hurting their security standings. This is almost an exploit.
I share this concern. It feels like the mechanics of factional warfare hasn't been entirely thought through.
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ZMasterz
Pothouse Cartel
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Posted - 2008.06.21 20:29:00 -
[220]
Edited by: ZMasterz on 21/06/2008 20:29:58
I think Overview needs a small (well, i hope ... i¦m not coding it :)) but urgent Fix:
Originally by: ZMasterz
i just got popped by Sentries because there was one neutral Reaper among 30 Wartargets on a Gate.
When they all started to warp out we were told to "get points on everything you can" ... so i locked what i could get and was dead a few seconds later (my fault ? Definitely was, but read on ...)
I do know how to set up my Overview, i¦ve been to 0.0 for a long time, i¦ve had LowSec wars and i¦ve pirated for a few months and been to -10 and back.
I have several Tabs with different Settings, and i can not get it to work that the Overview filters out Neutrals while still showing WarTargets .. as in: Militia Targets.
This really needs a fix imo, add a new Filtering option or do some other wizardry please, but as it is i see more and more people saying that Militia FleetFights (and be it even only smaller Fights) are near impossible in Lowsec. You need 1 Neutral Alt that follows a Fleet til it gets a Fight, and then you sit there and wait til someone locks you and loses his/her nice ship to Sentries.
Granted, it was of course my fault as i didn¦t have a closer look before i attacked that neutral Reaper, but: I have set my Overview to show Wartargets as Blinking White with a Blinking White Star .. that is pretty unique and can be distinguished from neutrals very easily.
But apparently not if there is 1 Neutral among 30 Blinking Targets .. it¦s easy to miss that Neutral. Test it ... add some Fleet-flatter and some random shouting and a few people that lock you, and you, too, will miss that 1 Neutral.
I plea for a Fix for this, i really enjoy FW in Lowsec and all around it, but without the Overview getting a new Filter/different Settings i think there will be an increasing number of people who just let FW be FW and go back to their "normal" EVE life without the fun with FW in LowSec.
This is my post from this http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=801015 Thread ... one of the most important and hopefully easiest-to-implement Fixes that are needed for Factional Warfare (imo ... of course).
If you consider this an "illegal crosspost" then i apologize in advance, i just had to get it in a more popular Thread, too.
edit: Fixed spelling and URL
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Mack Dorgeans
Camelot Innovations
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Posted - 2008.06.22 06:13:00 -
[221]
Why were the mineral requirements for covert ops ships changed? It appears those that now use a cheaper T1 frigate as the base had their T2 mineral requirements increased to compensate, but now certain minerals required are quite high compared to other frigate-sized T2 ship materials.
This should have been in the patch notes at the very least, so people could have discussed it during testing. It also brings up the larger question of why some T2 ships require extra amounts of common minerals besides the morphite requirement, and others do not.
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Duiwelskind
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Posted - 2008.06.22 22:51:00 -
[222]
EA was a lot of fun in the first week, as part of the Minmatar faction I really enjoyed killing off Amarr, the RP part came nicely into play. We even had a few run-ins with local pirates, as time went by the Amarr stopped fighting, the pirates joined the militia (and continues their pirating of neutral players). So now we're back to the lonely 0.0 method of roaming for hours trying to find war targets, camping gates for hours trying to catch nano frigates. Utterly pointless and boring, and this after 1 week!
The only thing left for Minmatar to do is go fight the Caldari (nano ships anyone?), and hope we don't get decimated by the Gallente first. Unless the Amarr gets a massive injection of players (which doesn't seem to be happening) joining the Minmatar faction is a waste of time, there's virtually no PVP to be had as part of that Faction. Join the Gallente if you want PVP fun, Caldari blobs and will eventually rule everything if the Gallente doesn't get stronger. That will then be the end of Factional Warfare.
I really don't know what CCP can do to fix this but any ideas will be welcome, we really need something on the Amarr\Minmatar side of FW to make this more fun.
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Tzuki Tsu
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Posted - 2008.06.27 11:42:00 -
[223]
I loved faction warfare, the premise is great, the missions are perhaps too easy but fun nonetheless. Pvp is pretty much instant unless your in a blob fleet, in which case forget it, lag and scaring off the enemy tends to reduce it to gate camping most of the time. All and all joyous.
The intuitive people out there just know there is a but coming.
BUT ... Unlike in a player alliance there is no command structure, without which there is no cohesion. Instead you get 500+ people *****ing in militia chat and an npc corp which cannot discriminate between alt. spies and genuine militia men.
Furthermore you need not just a place for militia chat, but channels for Intel (where is the enemy), Strategic (where are the complexes) and Tactical (I have just spawned a mission - who wants to come).
These comments aside I loved FW, mainly because i came from a player alliance and have some experience in open warfare, and also am a hardened mission runner who has lots of social skills.
Once these issues are addressed i will definately return to FW, but unfortunately my ceo retired us.
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