Originally by: Attak

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Oh, and putting down a few towers after IVC backstabbed OXIDE and camped them out of existence doesn't constitute fighting for your space.

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Originally by: dastommy79

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I will admit i was hopeing to see a NC backing of the Smashkills coaliton when it came down to this eventual fight. With RK attempts to assist in fountain and our involvments in clearing out the north of MC leftovers and policing Razors renters space while they were in delve. I seriously thought the North would not let Roadkill get taken out even though numeruos times they came to assist. For us and smash, i am not supprised.

Personaly, my own feelings on the subject. I have fought inside the NC for a years time. I flew with some great FC's and individual pilots. I also know they have plenty of nap nappy ass hats in their ranks. The North ****** me and some of my mates a year ago, not suprised. When the eventual RSF decision to take your moons comes, I wont lift a hand. Why? cause i am bitter

Helping roadkill would ruin their comfy naptrain and we cant have that. Its always sad to see a great group of guys under the influence of the Dreaded Guristas.

Basicly what i am trying to say is go **** yourself.

(personal perspective, i am no longer the leader of the Coalition and therefore do not represnt it any longer.)

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Originally by: dastommy79

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Edited by: dastommy79 on 26/06/2008 01:25:27
attak is chill. He was very bitter and whiney after fergie ferge got das boot. After a couple weeks he relaxed a bit and took it on the chin. Honestly in the end he had a good sense of humor about it after the sting was gone.

I just like debates and i want to call out the North on this one. I've seen them do this before and see this happening all over again. The "northern" alliances only really care about themeselves. By this i am not saying the Coalition, the individual alliances they are in. They only do moves that are in their specific personal interests and let those that dont fit perfectly what they want out to dry. Again i personaly saw not much reason for them to break one set of blues to save Atlas and Smash. Honestly we never felt the love from them much. Letting Roadkill die is another story.

As for our removal of space, all i have to is ABOUT ******* TIME! Seriously we forum *****, we pick off weak blues, we farmed RSF pets and have all in all been a royal pain in the ass for the RSF. Anyone that didnt see this coming is a fool. We in Atlas kept most of our assets liquid and were prepared for the most part to withdraw after we kicked the bees nest too many times. The only problem with this is that now there is no buffer zone between the NC and RSF/Drone pets.

Solar gangs are roaming pure and iron space. Heard from several nothern pilots that many "alts" are checking out their moons in Deklien and Droneland. What the north has done is set itself up for another disaster. They do not have much experience fighting RA and "RA's can shoot NC alliance" solar something.

I have come to respect RA and their splinter cells. They are a very tough and hard fighting enemy. They are also very opertunistic. When they see someone as weak, they will go in for the kill. The NC policy of "blue everyone and hope they dont change their minds" will not work with their new neighbors. They will single out Pure and Hydra and eventualy IRON. How do i know this? cause fighting someone everyday for a year tends to give you a good backround on how they do buisness.

So hear is my question to the NC. You have Solar/Not RA but is RA and their droneland pets raiding your space and positioning themselves for a eventual strike on your assests in the Drone regions. Why dont you do anything about it? These alliances are not blue to you, they are activly hunting you. You members complain of a lack of targets, a lot of them i might add. You are not fighting bobo anymore cause they are too busy sending AF gangs at pos's. Why dont you for once do something proactive instead of relying on your failed history of appeasment and procrastination?

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Originally by: NerftheSmurf

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Originally by: dastommy79

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Edited by: dastommy79 on 26/06/2008 01:25:27
attak is chill. He was very bitter and whiney after fergie ferge got das boot. After a couple weeks he relaxed a bit and took it on the chin. Honestly in the end he had a good sense of humor about it after the sting was gone.

I just like debates and i want to call out the North on this one. I've seen them do this before and see this happening all over again. The "northern" alliances only really care about themeselves. By this i am not saying the Coalition, the individual alliances they are in. They only do moves that are in their specific personal interests and let those that dont fit perfectly what they want out to dry. Again i personaly saw not much reason for them to break one set of blues to save Atlas and Smash. Honestly we never felt the love from them much. Letting Roadkill die is another story.

As for our removal of space, all i have to is ABOUT ******* TIME! Seriously we forum *****, we pick off weak blues, we farmed RSF pets and have all in all been a royal pain in the ass for the RSF. Anyone that didnt see this coming is a fool. We in Atlas kept most of our assets liquid and were prepared for the most part to withdraw after we kicked the bees nest too many times. The only problem with this is that now there is no buffer zone between the NC and RSF/Drone pets.

Solar gangs are roaming pure and iron space. Heard from several nothern pilots that many "alts" are checking out their moons in Deklien and Droneland. What the north has done is set itself up for another disaster. They do not have much experience fighting RA and "RA's can shoot NC alliance" solar something.

I have come to respect RA and their splinter cells. They are a very tough and hard fighting enemy. They are also very opertunistic. When they see someone as weak, they will go in for the kill. The NC policy of "blue everyone and hope they dont change their minds" will not work with their new neighbors. They will single out Pure and Hydra and eventualy IRON. How do i know this? cause fighting someone everyday for a year tends to give you a good backround on how they do buisness.

So hear is my question to the NC. You have Solar/Not RA but is RA and their droneland pets raiding your space and positioning themselves for a eventual strike on your assests in the Drone regions. Why dont you do anything about it? These alliances are not blue to you, they are activly hunting you. You members complain of a lack of targets, a lot of them i might add. You are not fighting bobo anymore cause they are too busy sending AF gangs at pos's. Why dont you for once do something proactive instead of relying on your failed history of appeasment and procrastination?

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if the north is chamberlain, who is germany?

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Originally by: dastommy79

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I just like debates and i want to call out the North on this one. I've seen them do this before and see this happening all over again. The "northern" alliances only really care about themeselves. By this i am not saying the Coalition, the individual alliances they are in. They only do moves that are in their specific personal interests and let those that dont fit perfectly what they want out to dry. Again i personaly saw not much reason for them to break one set of blues to save Atlas and Smash. Honestly we never felt the love from them much. Letting Roadkill die is another story.

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The only problem with this is that now there is no buffer zone between the NC and RSF/Drone pets.

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Solar gangs are roaming pure and iron space. Heard from several nothern pilots that many "alts" are checking out their moons in Deklien and Droneland. What the north has done is set itself up for another disaster. They do not have much experience fighting RA and "RA's can shoot NC alliance" solar something.

I have come to respect RA and their splinter cells. They are a very tough and hard fighting enemy. They are also very opertunistic. When they see someone as weak, they will go in for the kill. The NC policy of "blue everyone and hope they dont change their minds" will not work with their new neighbors. They will single out Pure and Hydra and eventualy IRON. How do i know this? cause fighting someone everyday for a year tends to give you a good backround on how they do buisness.

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So hear is my question to the NC. You have Solar/Not RA but is RA and their droneland pets raiding your space and positioning themselves for a eventual strike on your assests in the Drone regions. Why dont you do anything about it? These alliances are not blue to you, they are activly hunting you. You members complain of a lack of targets, a lot of them i might add. You are not fighting bobo anymore cause they are too busy sending AF gangs at pos's. Why dont you for once do something proactive instead of relying on your failed history of appeasment and procrastination?

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Originally by: Tetra gramaton

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Edited by: Tetra gramaton on 26/06/2008 16:15:26
There one word that can sum this all up and thats "KARMA". You reap what you sow.

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Originally by: Dominixa

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I predict that Mostly Harmless' Drone region holdings will be the next target.

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Originally by: KOTH Fluf

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Originally by: Dominixa

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I predict that Mostly Harmless' Drone region holdings will be the next target.

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If Mostly Harmless or Iron holdings in the Drone Regions are attacked, the NC will respond in full force.

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Originally by: KOTH Fluf

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Hydra is a member of the NC, so of course we would step in if they asked, just like anyone of our members of the coalition.

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Originally by: Banlish

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Originally by: Attak

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Oh, and putting down a few towers after IVC backstabbed OXIDE and camped them out of existence doesn't constitute fighting for your space.

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I guess saying you were part of the 2% that fought but just moved assets to empire does? Okay

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Originally by: Gamesguy

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Edited by: Gamesguy on 27/06/2008 03:16:32
ITT Atlas is leet because they pwned a D2 renter alliance.

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Originally by: Gamesguy

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ITT Atlas is leet because they pwned a D2 renter alliance.

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Originally by: Ubidak

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Such a wall of text based on goon cheap CAOD propaganda and merely lies.

Dude, let me enlighten you here just a bit. GS, TCF, UNL, KIA, Exceed, Daisho were brought to Geminate 'cause RA represented by Solars, xDeathx, IRC, ED, Ka-Tet were unable to remove Smashkill from drone regions. Period.

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Originally by: Veldya

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Well, the word I have heard is that RA asked the NC for permission to claim the territory they now have in Deklein, etc and would not have made a move for it if the NC had a desire to move into that territory.

Assuming that is true, it strikes me as odd that they would go out of their way for what is a pretty generous gesture of goodwill given the NC had no real claim on that territory yet plot to overthrow Geminate.

Geminate is a nice place, it isn't "that" nice.

Goons remind of a shark, a predator that strikes out at a target but is a very messy and inefficient killer. Sharks are often followed by lesser species who feed off the remains. RA and Goons have been tight for a long time, many of those others are probably looking to gain from the fallout of a Goon victory.

I don't believe anyone will hold any territory in Germinate that the NC oppose to being there. It doesn't mean it has to be a friend either, as I said before, EVE would be boring without conflict. I wouldn't be surprised if the NC allow an enemy to get a foothold near them in order to have some fun without having to travel 10 regions to do so.

It probably wouldn't make Smash feel any better than their home was being turned into an amusement park, however, I still have doubts the conflict has anything to do other than being the unresolved issues from the Goons/BoB war. It is not like Goons have not constantly said that they will eventually come after Smash.

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