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Zedolf Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 19:02:00 - [61] - Quote Rose Hips wrote: MAC: How do I launch my multiple clients? All my settings are lost in each client. In the past I would install and it would create an "Eve Online". I would copy the entire install and rename the copy to "Eve Online 2" and another copy as "Eve Online 3". http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Multiple_clients ^This. Now you won't have to have 3x(Eve folder size) occupied by Eve, and they will each have their own settings/cache/etc. Can't say if it works properly with the patch, though - sorry! (Edit: By using symlinks, that is!)
Grey Stormshadow draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 1044	Posted - 2012.03.13 19:24:00 - [62] - Quote I was expecting that launcher would come with multi client support but it didn't. Left disappointed as multi client patching was pretty much the thing I was expecting it to improve. No I don't want to know more about import/export patch function - I can copy paste myself too but well written launcher would do all this and more for me. 1. Start laucher 2. Examine all installed clients - if updates needed - download and install. 3. Let user choose which clients to launch simultaneously. 4. Close launcher. - Add client based settings import//export to launcher menu and make automatic backup before every patch. Get
Takashi Kaeda Perkone Caldari State 23	Posted - 2012.03.13 19:45:00 - [63] - Quote The client seems to launch slower for me. Other than, good work CCP.

CCP Cascade 78	Posted - 2012.03.13 19:47:00 - [64] - Quote Takashi Kaeda wrote: The client seems to launch slower for me. Other than, good work CCP. The first patch with the Launcher will take a little extra time, because the Launcher is doing a lot of calculations for your current install which is roughly 10GB. Those calculations are then cached, so next time you run an update it will be a lot quicker. Associate Technical Producer - Core Technology Group

Raz Lictor Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 2	Posted - 2012.03.13 20:03:00 - [65] - Quote I don't mind the name changes (which we knew were coming), so much as not putting a comprehensive list of what was changed in the patch notes. Or in the least indicating somewhere in the patch notes that the name changes were going through for 1.5. What's the point of having patch notes if you don't list half the things you're changing?
Chokichi Ozuwara Lucky Dragon Convenience 20	Posted - 2012.03.13 20:14:00 - [66] - Quote Raz Lictor wrote: What's the point of having patch notes if you don't list half the things you're changing? The same point as making dev blogs and forum posts and then ignoring any negative feedback. It's a lack of accountability and responsibility, which probably explains how a patch this bad gets pushed out. Start a corp and do it yourself. You'll fail, but you'll enjoy failing. Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round.
Anita1 Mortis Angelus Northern Coalition. 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 20:23:00 - [67] - Quote two threads about the ** launcher but nothing about the evemail bullshit AGAIN EVEMAIL IS CRASHING 2 OF MY 3 CLIENTS AND ALL CCP IS ANSWERING IS Hi, GM Haggis here, Thank you for contacting EVE Online customer support. There is a known issue with Evemail at present, please do not attempt to access this feature at the moment and your game will work fine. Best regards, GM Haggis EVE Online Customer Support Hi, GM Haggis here, Please try clearing your cache to see if that resolves the problem. You can do this by going to Settings (ESC), select Reset Settings tab and from there you can select to "Clear all cache files". After doing this please restart the client and, if the problem persists, try "Clear all settings" as well. For further instructions please see the following EVElopedia page. Link : http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Clearing_the_cache_and_settings Best regards, GM Haggis EVE Online Customer Support DID THAT ALL NOT WORKING, BESIDES I HAVE NO SETTINGS AND NO OVERVIEWS NOW, THX CCP FOR MAKING A PATCH WITHOUT TESTING THAT **
Rivqua Omega Wing 1	Posted - 2012.03.13 20:25:00 - [68] - Quote The launcher has introduced a issue with my setup. I run EVE on two machines, from a single eve folder. I'll show the the setup. Main Comp > Eve set up as normal in C:\Games and run from there. 2nd Comp > c:\Games\eve mklinked to Main Comp\Games\eve. This way, the 2nd comp only saves data locally (stuff like character pictures, cache) in the user folder, but as long as I patch eve once on the main computer, I can then run the 2nd comp without wasting 10G of space (which helps on a 60G SSD). But now Launcher is complaining about permissions etc, and won't start. If I copy eve over, and remove the symlink, it works fine. But it's unneccary and a decrease of functionality. Can we have a fix? For example, Launcher can save stuff in the user folder too, and not write to the eve game folder ? Thanks! - Riv
Anita1 Mortis Angelus Northern Coalition. 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 20:33:00 - [69] - Quote Anita1 wrote: two threads about the ** launcher but nothing about the evemail bullshit AGAIN EVEMAIL IS CRASHING 2 OF MY 3 CLIENTS AND ALL CCP IS ANSWERING IS Hi, GM Haggis here, Thank you for contacting EVE Online customer support. There is a known issue with Evemail at present, please do not attempt to access this feature at the moment and your game will work fine. Best regards, GM Haggis EVE Online Customer Support Hi, GM Haggis here, Please try clearing your cache to see if that resolves the problem. You can do this by going to Settings (ESC), select Reset Settings tab and from there you can select to "Clear all cache files". After doing this please restart the client and, if the problem persists, try "Clear all settings" as well. For further instructions please see the following EVElopedia page. Link : http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Clearing_the_cache_and_settings Best regards, GM Haggis EVE Online Customer Support DID THAT ALL NOT WORKING, BESIDES I HAVE NO SETTINGS AND NO OVERVIEWS NOW, THX CCP FOR MAKING A PATCH WITHOUT TESTING THAT **
James Henry Smith Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 20:35:00 - [70] - Quote I'm at work right now (North America Eastern Time Zone) and with all these issues and negative comments I'm afraid to even ATTEMPT to install the Launcher let alone the patches after when I get home. What seems to be most disappointing is that all the progress that was made since Crucible 1.0 may be lost because the management of CCP still has not fixed the lack of QA / testing processes and we once again have many users with game-breaking issues. Fixing a lot of gameplay annoyances is good but not when the fixes themselves break the game, and this new Launcher has not improved the functionality of the game since client restarts are still required after every single patch. My suggestion: perform a backout tomorrow at downtime, fix the gameplay issues (graphics, sound, lag, crashes), pull the Launcher component completely out, then re-release Crucible 1.5, and revamp your QA / testing processes.

Black Remorse Aliastra Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 20:38:00 - [71] - Quote Any command line switch or so to skip the launcher and go straight to the login screen?
Anita1 Mortis Angelus Northern Coalition. 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 20:44:00 - [72] - Quote can you guys pls not **** up this thread with the launcher bullshit too, there is already another thread about it, you might read it first
Zedolf Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 20:52:00 - [73] - Quote Anita1 wrote: can you guys pls not **** up this thread with the launcher bullshit too, there is already another thread about it, you might read it first There's also a thread related to issues (it's even has "Issues" in it's name!). Maybe you should take your evemail spam over there. Oh wait, you already did.
Anita1 Mortis Angelus Northern Coalition. 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 20:53:00 - [74] - Quote Zedolf wrote: Anita1 wrote: can you guys pls not **** up this thread with the launcher bullshit too, there is already another thread about it, you might read it first There's also a thread related to issues (it's even has "Issues" in it's name!). Maybe you should take your evemail spam over there. Oh wait, you already did. well maybe you should f... off and play the game, oh wait you are wasting your time useless instead
Pierced Brosmen Priory Of The Lemon 61	Posted - 2012.03.13 20:56:00 - [75] - Quote Cool stuff... launcher worked quite well, though as I have my eve clients pinned to the start bar I noticed that the launcher is omitted when starting the clients from there (since they link to the \bin\ExeFile.exe and not the eve.exe file) BUT... After reading the patch notes I noticed the part about the ships getting their "correct" racial exhaust and engine trails set and I was sad to see that the signature green exhaust of the Deimos has been lost (I call it signature, since I haven't seen any other ships with pure green exhaust. And also, in the Crucible trailer it was a group of Deimos with green trails that were in focus when the "Engine trails are back" was written on the screen... Why remove something that is unique enough to put it in the trailer? ) Also I am not sure I support the change of exhaust colour on the Orca... Unlike the other Ore ships, the Orca is part Caldari design and that would justify it having a Caldari'ish exhaust, wich happen to look better on that ship then the yellow we've got now
Luckytania Bullets of Justice Damned Nation 36	Posted - 2012.03.13 21:07:00 - [76] - Quote Mac Lion (OS X 10.7.3) running multiple concurrent clients / accounts New launcher went without a hitch. (In fact, better than on WinXP, where it failed twice before succeeding.) I do suggest you post in both this and the issues thread pointing at where to find the info about setting up multiple Eve clients on Mac so people don't get so frustrated hunting it down. (BTW, I found the info at: Multiple Clients. But would be nice to have a DEV acknowledge the legitimacy of that in this and the Issues threads.) Only sad note is that my frame rates have dropped substantially. Perhaps as much as by half. I noticed on the patch notes that another attempt to improve stability was included in this patch (very sorely needed) so this could be a byproduct. Not crashing is essential, but please do take another look at performance for your Mac based customers.
Luckytania Bullets of Justice Damned Nation 36	Posted - 2012.03.13 21:13:00 - [77] - Quote And a note about how the launcher is a major win, for me. I have two ISP connections set up with load-balancing. Since the new launcher starts up multiple concurrent downloads, it now takes less than half the time for a patch to get all downloaded. Now that is a minority use case. However it is so nice to get such a substantial improvement from a :CCP: action that I wanted to point it out. :)
Tubrug1 Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 24	Posted - 2012.03.13 21:30:00 - [78] - Quote You moved the station in Akiainavas, I am most displeased. Don't listen to what i say
Ulf Raben Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 21:39:00 - [79] - Quote Something for everyone to LAUGH at : CCP Spitfire Quote at the beginning of this thread : " EVE Online: Crucible 1.5 has been successfully deployed." If ever in my entire 5 years of playing EVE something CCP has produced has been MORE UNSUCCESSFUL than this CRAP UPDATE ... i do not know . Making 60 Million USD in Revenue from faithfull players / Year give some RESPOSIBILITY ! For ME .. most of my WORK inside EVE is now destroyed .. endless Hours of Time in-game LOST in my effort to get this CRAP UPDATE downloaded following all kind of fancy advice ..or lack thereof For this i want some COMPENSATION ..if this is not the FINAL BREAK DOWN of EVE ON-LINE .. The compensation better has to be REALLY SHINY to partly compensate me for lost TIME if and when it finally will be possible to download a FUNCTIONING EVE CLIENT from scratch again Or may I suggest to CCP to make the upcoming Gathering of EVE Players in ICELAND into a FUNERAL EVENT ! For my part i can say : I am really ANGRY and DISSAPOINTED
Razzishi Trash Reclamation Experts 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 22:14:00 - [80] - Quote Not happy with my market quickbar not being organized AT ALL. I didn't particularly like being forced to have it alphabetically, but at least in that case I could control the order by using dummy characters in front of the names. Now....it's just completely unsorted, without apparent rhyme or reason. At least with the new meta item names we'll be getting some way to tell which items are better than others other than memorization, but why are they being rolled out so slowly? If you know what the names are going to be eventually, why can't they just all be fixed in one swoop? The fact that it takes apparently real work to change the name of items in a systematized manner does not say good things about the code base. edit: Oh, and I open my mineral group and see it is sorted by quality of item, suggesting that somehow the entire list is sorted under a similar paradigm. Thank you for making me swap absolutely every row and column of my spreadsheet so that I can again efficiently move through the list of items I deal with.

Spank The Lady Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 22:20:00 - [81] - Quote Ulf Raben wrote: Rabble I wasted time reading your 3 posts in this tread, seeing that they were more about ranting then anything else like asking for advice on getting the thing to work in a constructive manner.... I wasted time I could have spent on something more useful I want COMPENSATION for my lost time
Razzishi Trash Reclamation Experts 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 22:22:00 - [82] - Quote Oh, and Minerals are automagically sorted by item quality low to high (Trit on top, Morph on bottom) but Drone poop is sorted in the exact opposite order. What other new and wondrous things will I discover in the market tonight?
Zedolf Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium 1	Posted - 2012.03.13 22:43:00 - [83] - Quote Razzishi wrote: Oh, and Minerals are automagically sorted by item quality low to high (Trit on top, Morph on bottom) but Drone poop is sorted in the exact opposite order. What other new and wondrous things will I discover in the market tonight? edit: I spoke too soon! Despite perfect ordering of minerals by value, and Drone poop starting at the top with the two most expensive ones, it actually then goes all over the place meaning that it's probably some internal number that players can't typically see that is causing this organization. So.. TypeID then, mayhaps? Seems like they've managed to mess up EVE's internal alphabet, since it (apparently) can't list anything in alphabetical order anymore. :P
Mirajane Cromwell 52	Posted - 2012.03.13 22:46:00 - [84] - Quote Raz Lictor wrote: I don't mind the name changes (which we knew were coming), so much as not putting a comprehensive list of what was changed in the patch notes. Or in the least indicating somewhere in the patch notes that the name changes were going through for 1.5. What's the point of having patch notes if you don't list half the things you're changing? Just noticed there's lots of limited, prototype, experimental and upgraded modules now but nothing about it in patch notes... are limited modules meta 1 or what? Weren't these changes waiting for revision?
Katy Ling Crimnson Concept Flame Flaming Nebula 5	Posted - 2012.03.13 22:48:00 - [85] - Quote CCP Donut Golem wrote: Smoking Blunts wrote: My patch day FU CCP Have you tried the "Import Patch" Feature? More can be read here: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/EVE_Launcher#FAQ ok ... lets pretend that where just a bunch of players, trying to patch they're multiple clients and don't know anything about the new client launcher, and because they don't see a visible button in the client launcher where it says "export patch data" / "delete patch cache" they simply have no clue how those things are done and just want to click in launcher -> patch all clients -> play game it is amazing it took so long for ccp to come with a launcher, as used in so many other online games, and the launcher doesn't even close himself .... probably you might tell me that there's some hidden option to "close launcher, after launching game" ... i just want to play eve, not play "find Easter eggs"
Floating Hands Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 23:06:00 - [86] - Quote The Velator uses its old icon in the ship hanger but the new icon within the show info window. Or at least it looks that way to me. The icon in the ship hanger doesn't really look like the new Velator.
Jak Savage Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 5	Posted - 2012.03.13 23:06:00 - [87] - Quote Yah the system it uses to sort info is realy messed up, for example my "people and places" folder, i had a system set up that at least alowed me to group them in some kind of order, now its compleatly random. have even remade a folder with the same exact name as one already in there, the new one is again placed in a random position and it's not even next to its idinticle twin. shure hope this gets fixed soon, but with every one having problems with the launcher it self, seems like where going to be stuck with this for a bit. ccp, why where these problems not ironed out before going live? you had to have tested and seen the isues, did you push forward with it any ways, figuring you would iron them out after going live with it?
Versuvius Marii Browncoats of Persephone Ironworks Coalition 54	Posted - 2012.03.13 23:39:00 - [88] - Quote Not liking the launcher. Really not. It worked fine before. So what if every other MMO out there has a sodding patcher/launcher... now we have to load the stupid launcher every time there's a patch. More clicking just to bring the game into the 21st century in the eyes of the internet elite? And even more clicking if you want to disable the bloody thing, which I have done. Oh and it's more CPU intensive for some unknown reason - it worked just fine before. Seriously do not understand what the need for this was other than to satisfy MMOfags. Also fix Eve Gate, specifically the fact I can't use a ' in a mail without it somehow giving out coding errors, and the stupidly increasing font sizes, and making me log in to send a mail and thus defeating the point of Gate. Which is an annoying process to do now as you've got to load the launcher, which in turn loads the client(launcher has been disabled, but still had to disable it CCP)... See where I'm going?
Tjalve Myr'Aelyn Nisroc Angels The Obsidian Front 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 23:49:00 - [89] - Quote What happens with the locations in th right-click menu? They are completely out of any order now, not sorted by name, nor creation day. I was used to sort the locations by name in the menu, adding prefixes like "_" helped a lot to get certain bookmarks on top of the list. That doesn't work anymore. What I am doing wrong? Is there any chance I can sort my locations again - finding important bookmarks on top of the location list is sometimes essential for surviving in PvP ...

CCP Cascade 79	Posted - 2012.03.14 00:02:00 - [90] - Quote As of 23:57 GMT we released a new Launcher and a new repair tool to resolve some issues that players have been experiencing during the initial deployment of Crucible 1.5. Those of you experiencing issues with the Launcher or updating the game, please follow these steps: 1.Reboot the computer. 2.Navigate to the EVE client install folder. 3.Run the Repair tool until it finshes. 4.Run eve.exe from the same folder We ask people to reboot their computer to make sure that there are no locked files or other processes running while running the repair tool. This would otherwise interfere with the repair tool and prevent the client from updating. Please let us know if this resolves the issues you are experiencing. Associate Technical Producer - Core Technology Group




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