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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.13 11:35:00 -
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EVE Online: Crucible 1.5 has been deployed. This thread will be unlocked once the game is open to the players.
Crucible 1.5 introduces the new launcher for EVE Online, new rookie ship models, several new DED complexes, as well as numerous watch list and UI improvements. Full patch notes are available here.
We are changing the patching process with the introduction of the new launcher. For more information please refer to this EVElopedia article and this forum thread.
This thread is for general feedback. If you encounter any issues please use the Crucible 1.5 issues thread here. CCP Spitfire | Russian Community Coordinator @ccp_spitfire |
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Smoking Blunts
ZC Industries Dark Stripes
215
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Posted - 2012.03.13 12:21:00 -
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My patch day FU CCP CCP-áare full of words and no action. We will watch what they are doing, for now
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CCP Navigator
C C P C C P Alliance
1012

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Posted - 2012.03.13 12:22:00 -
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Thread now open. Looking forward to your feedback  CCP Navigator -Community Manager |
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CCP Donut Golem
C C P C C P Alliance
0

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Posted - 2012.03.13 12:23:00 -
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Have you tried the "Import Patch" Feature? More can be read here: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/EVE_Launcher#FAQ |
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Garmon
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
142
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Posted - 2012.03.13 12:27:00 -
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The new launcher is working perfectly for me, and I quite like it Check out GARMONATION 9 right now! Check out our site for PVP videos, guides and audio commentaries: www.EVEisEASY.com |

malaire
249
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Posted - 2012.03.13 12:28:00 -
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Launcher was saying "Client is Ready" but when I pressed Play, I was still required to restart EVE to install Client Update.
If Launcher can't install client updates, this isn't that big change since I am still required to restart EVE for most installs. New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else |

Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
216
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Posted - 2012.03.13 12:30:00 -
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I really like the new launcher. It makes it a lot easier to navigate to other eve related links (youtube, eve news, etc.)
In the future when/if Dust is released on the PC maybe the dust client will be added to this launcher so we can easily switch from eve spaceships to eve fps.
Question: If i leave the launcher open on my home computer while i'm at work, will it automatically update my client so it's ready when i get home? |

malaire
249
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Posted - 2012.03.13 12:30:00 -
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You "forgot" to mention renaming of all implants in patch notes?
New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else |

Caldorai Anninen
Holy Lasers Inc.
25
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Posted - 2012.03.13 12:31:00 -
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Launcher doesn't closes after pressing PLAY. I don't think it's good 
Update #1 installed via EVE itself and not by launcher. In this situation i don't understand launchers role. Launcher must apply ALL available updates. And EVE must patch itself only in situation when you launch eve.exe directly. |

T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
523
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Posted - 2012.03.13 12:33:00 -
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:) T'amber for CSM7 - Ship and Client Customisation Take part in the 2min Ship Customisation Survey www.tinyurl.com/shipcustomisation
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CCP Donut Golem
C C P C C P Alliance
0

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Posted - 2012.03.13 12:35:00 -
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malaire wrote:Launcher was saying "Client is Ready" but when I pressed Play, I was still required to restart EVE to install Client Update.
If Launcher can't install client updates, this isn't that big change since I am still required to restart EVE for most installs.
The Launcher currently replaces the old patching process, but as you note, doesn't handle "Client Updates" (which used to be "Optional"). This is on our roadmap for the future, when we hope to bring you a restart-less patching experience  |
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malaire
249
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Posted - 2012.03.13 12:36:00 -
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Caldorai Anninen wrote:Launcher doesn't closes after pressing PLAY. I don't think it's good  You can change that from Launcher Settings (icon next to Minimize & Close, top right of window).
Personally I like that it does not close, so I can click Play 3 times to launch 3 clients, and still leave it open to read news etc.
New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else |

Kronossan
Bellum Esca
20
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Posted - 2012.03.13 12:36:00 -
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Caldorai Anninen wrote:Launcher doesn't closes after pressing PLAY. I don't think it's good  Update #1 installed via EVE itself and not by launcher. In this situation i don't understand launchers role. Launcher must apply ALL available updates. And EVE must patch itself only in situation when you launch eve.exe directly.
You can actually set it to close after launching the game by going to the launcher's settings window (top right corner somewhere), then go to the "Startup" tab and check the box 
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Alexey Bragin
StrangerCorp
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 12:38:00 -
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client update was unsuccessful
Exception during UpdaterModule.Update Traceback (most recent call last): File "lib\update.pyc", line 527, in Update File "lib\update.pyc", line 553, in _Update File "lib\update.pyc", line 277, in Run File "zsync\zsync.pyc", line 1208, in CreatePatch File "zsync\zsync.pyc", line 890, in GetInfo File "zsync\readFromUrl.pyc", line 47, in GetSocket File "download\urllib2Mods.pyc", line 92, in Opener File "download\urllib2Mods.pyc", line 59, in func File "urllib2.pyc", line 126, in urlopen File "urllib2.pyc", line 391, in open File "urllib2.pyc", line 409, in _open File "urllib2.pyc", line 369, in _call_chain File "urllib2.pyc", line 1173, in http_open File "urllib2.pyc", line 1148, in do_open URLError: urlopen error timed out |

SamuraiJack
Sacred Templars RED.OverLord
11
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Posted - 2012.03.13 12:40:00 -
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couple of things.
I run multiple clients. hopefully the launcher will now stop the multiple 4mb dl;s for each client? (btw. why do you not use the %user%\appdata\local\ccp\eve\download dir?)
Patches with the launcher. WHY OH WHY the root of the game install? Surely the appdata\local\ccp\eve\patches dir would be more sensible and allow easier multi client patching using the launcher?
Just some thoughts. |

Zeda Yoko Kion
Z-919
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 12:44:00 -
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My client run verry slow !!!! Impossible to play (low frame/sec) What is this? Uf, the old version was good... |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
78

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Posted - 2012.03.13 12:46:00 -
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Zeda Yoko Kion wrote:My client run verry slow !!!! Impossible to play (low frame/sec) What is this? Uf, the old version was good...
Please answer my question on this in the issues thread rather than crossposting an unexplained issue to multiple threads. CCP Goliath | Engineering Team Lead |
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Willl Adama
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
148
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Posted - 2012.03.13 12:47:00 -
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Working well for me Check out GARMONATION 9 right now! Check out our site for PVP videos, guides and audio commentaries: www.EVEisEASY.com |

Zeda Yoko Kion
Z-919
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 12:54:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Zeda Yoko Kion wrote:My client run verry slow !!!! Impossible to play (low frame/sec) What is this? Uf, the old version was good... Please answer my question on this in the issues thread rather than crossposting an unexplained issue to multiple threads.
System: CPU: Intel Quad Q6600 2,4G RAM: 4GB OS: Win7 Ultimate Graphic: Nvidia 8600GTS
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zShadow
Core Industry. Echoes of Nowhere
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 12:57:00 -
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Hello,
errors occured :
Traceback (most recent call last): File "patch_win.py", line 121, in module File "yaml\__init__.pyc", line 57, in load File "yaml\loader.pyc", line 34, in __init__ File "yaml\reader.pyc", line 114, in __init__ File "yaml\reader.pyc", line 170, in determine_encoding File "yaml\reader.pyc", line 200, in update ReaderError: 'utf8' codec can't decode byte #x8b: invalid start byte in "string", position 1
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AnAmReb One
Karetsu
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:02:00 -
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What was wrong with the patches as they were...? At least give ppl a choice.
The person with the most bandwidth left for the month would download the patch and distribute to the rest. Now no more.
Well, that's it then - I think I will prob quit playing EVE then.

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Takeshi Ryuu
Black Octopus Blind Octopus
5
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:05:00 -
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The launcher is a failure while there are still client patches which are available only after the full client starts and which still require to restart the full client. |

Smoking Blunts
ZC Industries Dark Stripes
215
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:09:00 -
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i still have to open the laucnher 6 times. why why????
before i hit a little check box, remove downloaded data, now i gotta go in and manually export and then import 6 times.
how is that making it easier? CCP-áare full of words and no action. We will watch what they are doing, for now
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CCP Donut Golem
C C P C C P Alliance
1

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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:10:00 -
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Takeshi Ryuu wrote:The launcher is a failure while there are still client patches which are available only after the full client starts and which still require to restart the full client.
This is on our roadmap for the near future . |
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malaire
249
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:12:00 -
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When do we get new Static Database Dump with all the new item names? New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else |

Verite Rendition
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
108
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:23:00 -
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SamuraiJack wrote:couple of things.
I run multiple clients. hopefully the launcher will now stop the multiple 4mb dl;s for each client? (btw. why do you not use the %user%\appdata\local\ccp\eve\download dir?)
Patches with the launcher. WHY OH WHY the root of the game install? Surely the appdata\local\ccp\eve\patches dir would be more sensible and allow easier multi client patching using the launcher?
Just some thoughts. I have to be honest, that's pretty bad design. You shouldn't be keeping old patches in the client directory; there are numerous Windows development best practice guidelines that suggest not doing that. This is what ProgramData is for. |

FuSiOn 92
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
1
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:38:00 -
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Error on patching and also on repair.
Exception in thread Thread-2: Traceback (most recent call last): File "threading.pyc", line 530, in __bootstrap_inner File "threading.pyc", line 483, in run File "zsync\readFromUrl.pyc", line 117, in DownloadPart File "zsync\readFromUrl.pyc", line 136, in _DownloadPart File "zsync\zsync.pyc", line 521, in callback TypeError: Incorrect stream properties
Exception in thread Thread-7: Traceback (most recent call last): File "threading.pyc", line 530, in __bootstrap_inner File "threading.pyc", line 483, in run File "zsync\readFromUrl.pyc", line 117, in DownloadPart File "zsync\readFromUrl.pyc", line 136, in _DownloadPart File "zsync\zsync.pyc", line 761, in callback FileSyncError: data corruption |

Yugo Reventlov
STA'IN The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:44:00 -
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Just a weird little thing.
Running Windows 7 here. When I click an application in the task bar multiple times after eachother, the window will come to the front - minimize - rinse and repeat.
This doesn't seem to happen with the launcher. It just stays in front.
Not a major issue, but it's annoying. |

AnAmReb One
Karetsu
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:50:00 -
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"Client is ready"... OK. Click "PLAY"...
Splash screen... Wait...
"The update has been downloaded. The client will now close and the update process begin.
Press 'OK' to continue."
Press OK...
Rinse and repeat.
AND THIS IS BETTER HOW??? |

Niena Nuamzzar
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:52:00 -
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Experimental Armor EM Hardener I, Limited 'Anointed' EM Ward Field... c'mon CCP, for how long !?!?!? My market orders and quickbar are no longer alphabetically synchronized, what I have now is complete mess   |

Vegare
Das zweite Konglomerat The Initiative.
23
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:54:00 -
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We still need to restart the client to apply client updates? lol |

SabotNoob
Sabot Industries
42
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Posted - 2012.03.13 15:15:00 -
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I really like the ability to double-click outstanding market orders and have it bring up the market details of that item. This helps when updating many, many orders. I remember requesting this a while back ago, so thank you CCP! It made life a little easier for traders.
In that request, there was something else I had asked for but I didn't see in this patch. When you modify an order, the window opens up. In that window, there is the current amount of the order. That amount is NOT highlighted by default. You have to either double click on it, or hit Control+A. Would it be possible to have that amount highlighted by default when the Modify Order window is opened?
By having it highlighted by default, it would eliminate one more step in the order update process. You can just go to Modify Order, and type in the new amount! Right now, it's Modify Order, double click on order amount, enter new amount. I know it's a minor issue, but multiplied by almost 200 orders, it gets tedious. Thoughts?
Another thing I noticed, when selling an item from the Assets window, double clicking that item doesn't bring up its market details. Could this be added to the Assets window as well, like it was done to the Orders window???
Thanks CCP!  |

Nalha Saldana
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
164
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Posted - 2012.03.13 15:21:00 -
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New ui lag appeared for me trying to do invention and production at a pos |
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CCP Cascade
71

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Posted - 2012.03.13 15:22:00 -
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Vegare wrote:We still need to restart the client to apply client updates?  lol
Our plan is to move this functionality into the Launcher in the near future. For the initial release, we didn't want to change too many things at the same time. Associate Technical Producer - Core Technology Group |
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Meninha
PPN United
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 15:35:00 -
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The Patcher itself worked fine... BUT
Serious FPS Problems....  
Down to 5-10 fps when at planet, 2-8 when entering incusion site. Max FPS is on warp with 25-30 fps
Tried all out, lowes settings, best performance, Interval imidiate, one, default, four.. etc.. no changes...
never had problems before..      
Running on Mac OS X 10.7.3
iMac 27"
3.6 IntelCore i5
8GB 1333 MHz DDR3
ATI Radeon HD 5750 1024 MB (2560x1440)
Edit: Downloading client again... i-¦ll keep ya posted... |

Yophant
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
36
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Posted - 2012.03.13 15:42:00 -
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Noticed two bugs:
1. http://ssmaker.ru/ff06cf2a.png those strange symbols in menu - i hope i don't get punished for seeing them :) 2. http://ssmaker.ru/f9c46856.png target painter's "duration" bar is overlapping "shield" bar, also a space between shield/armor/structure bars seems to be more wide than before.
I've cleaned game cache with Launcher tool, didn't helped. |

Rose Hips
Zero Dot Zero
85
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Posted - 2012.03.13 15:58:00 -
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MAC:
How do I launch my multiple clients? All my settings are lost in each client.
In the past I would install and it would create an "Eve Online". I would copy the entire install and rename the copy to "Eve Online 2" and another copy as "Eve Online 3".
Then I would edit each of the info.plist file in the respective folder and then add a number after the lines that had "Eve Online" . Thus I would have 2 clients, each with "Eve Online 2" and "Eve Online 3".
This worked extremely well with no problems.
Now: All the settings for both EO2 and EO3 both point to the default "Eve Online" settings which will not do.
HELP PLEASE Forum signature removed by GOD |

Antraman
Mirai Yume
1
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Posted - 2012.03.13 16:03:00 -
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Info and Account Management links etc launch IE and not Firefox, even when Firefox is set as default browser for everything else on my PC...
Really? You forcing us to use IE...? |

Klinkerhofen
R.E.M.M. Corporation Warsmiths.
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 16:03:00 -
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Download wont start, and it's not possible to do a manual download. I dont understand why its so hard toget one file. evepremiumpatch349998.exe This sucks |

Caldain Morrow
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.03.13 16:06:00 -
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What happened to 1.3 and 1.4?!?!?!?!?! You killed them and burned the bodies DIDN'T YOU!!! Murderers! |

Chokichi Ozuwara
Lucky Dragon Convenience
20
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Posted - 2012.03.13 16:25:00 -
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CCP Cascade wrote:Our plan is to move this functionality into the Launcher in the near future. For the initial release, we didn't want to change too many things at the same time. I guess it is enough struggle trying to make something that works. Start a corp and do it yourself. You'll fail, but you'll enjoy failing. Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |

Aphatasis
Evoke. Ev0ke
1
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Posted - 2012.03.13 16:47:00 -
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[quote=FuSiOn 92]Error on patching and also on repair
Exception in thread Thread-2 Traceback (most recent call last) File "threading.pyc", line 530, in __bootstrap_inne File "threading.pyc", line 483, in ru File "zsync\readFromUrl.pyc", line 117, in DownloadPar File "zsync\readFromUrl.pyc", line 136, in _DownloadPar File "zsync\zsync.pyc", line 521, in callbac TypeError: Incorrect stream propertie
Exception in thread Thread-7 Traceback (most recent call last) File "threading.pyc", line 530, in __bootstrap_inne File "threading.pyc", line 483, in ru File "zsync\readFromUrl.pyc", line 117, in DownloadPar File "zsync\readFromUrl.pyc", line 136, in _DownloadPar File "zsync\zsync.pyc", line 761, in callbac FileSyncError: data corruption[/quote
+ I have EXACTLY the same problem
I use Win7 Pro 64bit - just sayin' |

Adaahh Gee
Rock jockeyz Ushra'Khan
9
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:07:00 -
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Patch completed OK, Launcher working OK.
Not very happy about having to learn a bunch of new names again.
When will the patch be announced to change ship names to "Small Ship" and "Big Ship"??
I assume CCP's ultimate aim is to turn Eve some sort of facebook game like Farmville or Island Paradise?
PLEASE STOP DUMBING DOWN!!!
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Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
185
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:18:00 -
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Quote:Added percentage tooltips for Armor/Shield/Structure bars on targeted ships.
I reaaaaally wonder why those numbers have been moved to tooltip instead putting it into the bars directly? Please clarify, CCP, this is just not very usable. Eve community: An angry mob of bright people hunting witches, more torches, more hay forks, growing and growing. |

Desas
Shiva Initiative Mercenaries
1
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:20:00 -
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Patch and launcher are all good .. thank god launcher is optional aslong there is no update incoming.
On a other side note: Do you guys at CCP have to much time on your hands that you send somebody thru the database and let them rename Items every bloody patch now? seriously the old name convention was fin .. which was in game forever and now we have to get used to new item names for the sma old stuff every time?? Well either you get some new stuff ingame and name it whatever you want BUT why bothering touching the OLD stuff at all ?? |

Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
169
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:33:00 -
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why launcher?? You might have reasons to introduce one but its another programm we have to bother with. From user viewpoint its a useless piece of software, before patch I just started eve and it checked updates for itself, now I have to start launcher and then launch the actual game.
Give us a command line option to simply start the game and then end the launcher so we can start eve client with 1 single click and dont see the stupid launcher. Please!
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Keras Authion
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
69
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:35:00 -
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Not exactly a gamebreaker but the noobship info windows still show the old models' picture, or at least the ibis does. Model viewer works fine though. Also autolinking these does not find an item in the database. |
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CCP Donut Golem
C C P C C P Alliance
8

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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:36:00 -
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zShadow wrote:Hello,
errors occured :
Traceback (most recent call last): File "patch_win.py", line 121, in module File "yaml\__init__.pyc", line 57, in load File "yaml\loader.pyc", line 34, in __init__ File "yaml\reader.pyc", line 114, in __init__ File "yaml\reader.pyc", line 170, in determine_encoding File "yaml\reader.pyc", line 200, in update ReaderError: 'utf8' codec can't decode byte #x8b: invalid start byte in "string", position 1
In which locale is your Operating System? |
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Taritura
Achozen Dueces TecH
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:38:00 -
[49] - Quote
Quote:DED Complexes Get Even More Love
Ratters and mission runners receive a wave of new DED content for Blood Raider, Sansha and Serpentis pirate factions. Over 50 sites have been added, bringing new challenges and an array of new high-end modules that are sure to please those lucky enough to procure them.
Sooo .. is this actual ??? for today's patch ? |

Caldain Morrow
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:44:00 -
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First impressions of the new rookie ships: They're too pretty. I'm referencing the reaper as it's the only one I've seen. It's too damn polished to be a mini ship.
IT's got curves, it's got polish, it hasn't got a spec of rust on it. THIS IS WRONG!!!!
MORE BALING WIRE AND DUCT TAPE! Leave the polish and and curves to the slaver amarr and the bleeding heart gellente. The Minmatar fly ships that a reaver can be proud of. |

Murashu
Phoibe Enterprises
17
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:47:00 -
[51] - Quote
I'm glad to see the watch list getting more love, but I'm still surprised by the amount of effort put into replacing a functional launcher with one that is different, not better, just different and rookie ships.
Still hoping to see the date return to the UI and make it optional for those who do not want it. |

Caldain Morrow
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:51:00 -
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With the launcher: I can see why you would get patching functionality first then client update functionality second..... Patches don't annoy me, client updates do. I would rather have waited another couple months and got a launcher that eliminated th headache of client updates.
CCP. You're rushing again. Remember what happened last time. The launcher wasn't one of the really anticipated features, the rookie ships, DED stuff and renaming modules so they make sense were more pressing.
Aside from the on issue the launcher looks nice and I like the obvious and easy access to account management features. (especially while waiting for my DUST 514 beta key.. hint hint) It adds a nice bit of polish....... clientupdaterebootsareeviandneedtodieahorribledeathwithpapercutsandlemonjuice *GASP* |

Aphatasis
Evoke. Ev0ke
1
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:57:00 -
[53] - Quote
CCP Donut Golem wrote:zShadow wrote:Hello,
errors occured :
Traceback (most recent call last): File "patch_win.py", line 121, in module File "yaml\__init__.pyc", line 57, in load File "yaml\loader.pyc", line 34, in __init__ File "yaml\reader.pyc", line 114, in __init__ File "yaml\reader.pyc", line 170, in determine_encoding File "yaml\reader.pyc", line 200, in update ReaderError: 'utf8' codec can't decode byte #x8b: invalid start byte in "string", position 1
In which locale is your Operating System?
If u want to know wheater there is a hyphen in the path: I mine not!: F:\EVE\Clients\TQ1 |

Rtb
Appetite 4 Destruction
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:01:00 -
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The directional scanner range option is a mess now. With no kind of separator whatsoever it's hard to recongnize the range easily. Now I have to see 100000000km or 750000000km with no separation on it. 
Please make it as it was before. Some of us actually use it for pvp purposes.
Or better yet.... upgrade the option so that you can use AU instead of km. Also makes the trick and is about time. |

Chokichi Ozuwara
Lucky Dragon Convenience
20
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:06:00 -
[55] - Quote
I don't understand the purpose of this launcher, or why it is more important than fixing actual issues in the game, like how you guys ****ed up the overview in Crucible 1.2 and won't say anything publicly about the mess you've made.
I open the launcher, and then I have to make an extra click to open up the game.
So basically, all of this for a splash screen that ads one more click into what I do. That's a LOSS of UTILITY for those that are paying attention... Start a corp and do it yourself. You'll fail, but you'll enjoy failing. Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |

Grumplestiltskin
Sleepless Premonition Imperium Honorius
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:21:00 -
[56] - Quote
Aphatasis wrote:CCP Donut Golem wrote:zShadow wrote:Hello,
errors occured :
Traceback (most recent call last): File "patch_win.py", line 121, in module File "yaml\__init__.pyc", line 57, in load File "yaml\loader.pyc", line 34, in __init__ File "yaml\reader.pyc", line 114, in __init__ File "yaml\reader.pyc", line 170, in determine_encoding File "yaml\reader.pyc", line 200, in update ReaderError: 'utf8' codec can't decode byte #x8b: invalid start byte in "string", position 1
In which locale is your Operating System? If u want to know wheater there is a hyphen in the path: I mine not!: F:\EVE\Clients\TQ1
Why don't you just answer the (@&&!@ developers question and let them do their jobs?  |

Terrorfrodo
Deep Space Darwinian Law Enforcement Agency
20
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:28:00 -
[57] - Quote
I hope this EVE Launcher thing has some great big behind-the-scenes benefit for you developers, because it certainly has no benefit whatsoever for the player. So now I have to start a program to start the program... seriously? |

Olafbrund
AnShar Shipyard Association Peregrine Nation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:31:00 -
[58] - Quote
Hello Everyone,
here is my EVELauncher Errormessage:
Exception during UpdaterModule.Update Traceback (most recent call last): File "lib\update.pyc", line 527, in Update File "lib\update.pyc", line 576, in _Update File "lib\update.pyc", line 304, in Run File "zsync\zsync.pyc", line 1419, in ApplyPatch File "zsync\zsync.pyc", line 1411, in ApplyPatch WindowsError: [Error 32] Der Prozess kann nicht auf die Datei zugreifen, da sie von einem anderen Prozess verwendet wird: 'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\CCP\\EVE\\resInteriorShared.stuff
OS: Windows 7 |

Knowledgeminer
Oriens Vis
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:34:00 -
[59] - Quote
Whoever thought highlighting market orders placed in a station in my current route was a cool idea doesn't check buy orders while traveling around, ever, does he/she?
I can't believe how dumb and annoying this utterly useless "feature" is... I mean, BUY orders can have a range of several jumps, you know... You know, right?... So who cares if say a region wide buy order was placed in a station that (oh my!) happens to be in my current route or not?
Checking buy orders while traveling around has become a MAJOR annoyance now, great job, thank you very much. Now, could you please remove that "feature" or at the very least give us the option to turn it off? May I also suggest you always make "features" like this optional? That way you could save many players a lot of unnecessary grief and get a very good idea of how many people do actually find them useful... |

Voxinian
1
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:40:00 -
[60] - Quote
The patch was long/slow, but went smooth without problems for me. One small thing with the launcher is that the links opens IE while Safari is my default browser. IE results in a blank page. |

Zedolf
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:02:00 -
[61] - Quote
Rose Hips wrote:MAC:
How do I launch my multiple clients? All my settings are lost in each client.
In the past I would install and it would create an "Eve Online". I would copy the entire install and rename the copy to "Eve Online 2" and another copy as "Eve Online 3".
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Multiple_clients ^This. Now you won't have to have 3x(Eve folder size) occupied by Eve, and they will each have their own settings/cache/etc. Can't say if it works properly with the patch, though - sorry!
(Edit: By using symlinks, that is!) |

Grey Stormshadow
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
1044
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:24:00 -
[62] - Quote
I was expecting that launcher would come with multi client support but it didn't. Left disappointed as multi client patching was pretty much the thing I was expecting it to improve.
No I don't want to know more about import/export patch function - I can copy paste myself too but well written launcher would do all this and more for me.
1. Start laucher 2. Examine all installed clients - if updates needed - download and install. 3. Let user choose which clients to launch simultaneously. 4. Close launcher.
- Add client based settings import//export to launcher menu and make automatic backup before every patch.
Get |

Takashi Kaeda
Perkone Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:45:00 -
[63] - Quote
The client seems to launch slower for me.
Other than, good work CCP. |
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CCP Cascade
78

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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:47:00 -
[64] - Quote
Takashi Kaeda wrote:The client seems to launch slower for me. Other than, good work CCP.
The first patch with the Launcher will take a little extra time, because the Launcher is doing a lot of calculations for your current install which is roughly 10GB. Those calculations are then cached, so next time you run an update it will be a lot quicker.
Associate Technical Producer - Core Technology Group |
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Raz Lictor
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:03:00 -
[65] - Quote
I don't mind the name changes (which we knew were coming), so much as not putting a comprehensive list of what was changed in the patch notes. Or in the least indicating somewhere in the patch notes that the name changes were going through for 1.5. What's the point of having patch notes if you don't list half the things you're changing? |

Chokichi Ozuwara
Lucky Dragon Convenience
20
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:14:00 -
[66] - Quote
Raz Lictor wrote:What's the point of having patch notes if you don't list half the things you're changing? The same point as making dev blogs and forum posts and then ignoring any negative feedback. It's a lack of accountability and responsibility, which probably explains how a patch this bad gets pushed out. Start a corp and do it yourself. You'll fail, but you'll enjoy failing. Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |

Anita1
Mortis Angelus Northern Coalition.
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.13 20:23:00 -
[67] - Quote
two threads about the **** launcher but nothing about the evemail bullshit
AGAIN EVEMAIL IS CRASHING 2 OF MY 3 CLIENTS AND ALL CCP IS ANSWERING IS
Hi, GM Haggis here,
Thank you for contacting EVE Online customer support.
There is a known issue with Evemail at present, please do not attempt to access this feature at the moment and your game will work fine.
Best regards, GM Haggis EVE Online Customer Support
Hi, GM Haggis here,
Please try clearing your cache to see if that resolves the problem. You can do this by going to Settings (ESC), select Reset Settings tab and from there you can select to "Clear all cache files". After doing this please restart the client and, if the problem persists, try "Clear all settings" as well. For further instructions please see the following EVElopedia page.
Link : http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Clearing_the_cache_and_settings
Best regards, GM Haggis EVE Online Customer Support
DID THAT ALL NOT WORKING, BESIDES I HAVE NO SETTINGS AND NO OVERVIEWS NOW, THX CCP FOR MAKING A PATCH WITHOUT TESTING THAT **** |

Rivqua
Omega Wing
1
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:25:00 -
[68] - Quote
The launcher has introduced a issue with my setup. I run EVE on two machines, from a single eve folder. I'll show the the setup.
Main Comp > Eve set up as normal in C:\Games and run from there. 2nd Comp > c:\Games\eve mklinked to Main Comp\Games\eve.
This way, the 2nd comp only saves data locally (stuff like character pictures, cache) in the user folder, but as long as I patch eve once on the main computer, I can then run the 2nd comp without wasting 10G of space (which helps on a 60G SSD).
But now Launcher is complaining about permissions etc, and won't start.
If I copy eve over, and remove the symlink, it works fine. But it's unneccary and a decrease of functionality. Can we have a fix? For example, Launcher can save stuff in the user folder too, and not write to the eve game folder ?
Thanks!
- Riv |

Anita1
Mortis Angelus Northern Coalition.
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.13 20:33:00 -
[69] - Quote
Anita1 wrote:two threads about the **** launcher but nothing about the evemail bullshit AGAIN EVEMAIL IS CRASHING 2 OF MY 3 CLIENTS AND ALL CCP IS ANSWERING IS Hi, GM Haggis here, Thank you for contacting EVE Online customer support. There is a known issue with Evemail at present, please do not attempt to access this feature at the moment and your game will work fine. Best regards, GM Haggis EVE Online Customer Support Hi, GM Haggis here, Please try clearing your cache to see if that resolves the problem. You can do this by going to Settings (ESC), select Reset Settings tab and from there you can select to "Clear all cache files". After doing this please restart the client and, if the problem persists, try "Clear all settings" as well. For further instructions please see the following EVElopedia page. Link : http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Clearing_the_cache_and_settingsBest regards, GM Haggis EVE Online Customer Support DID THAT ALL NOT WORKING, BESIDES I HAVE NO SETTINGS AND NO OVERVIEWS NOW, THX CCP FOR MAKING A PATCH WITHOUT TESTING THAT ****
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James Henry Smith
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:35:00 -
[70] - Quote
I'm at work right now (North America Eastern Time Zone) and with all these issues and negative comments I'm afraid to even ATTEMPT to install the Launcher let alone the patches after when I get home. What seems to be most disappointing is that all the progress that was made since Crucible 1.0 may be lost because the management of CCP still has not fixed the lack of QA / testing processes and we once again have many users with game-breaking issues. Fixing a lot of gameplay annoyances is good but not when the fixes themselves break the game, and this new Launcher has not improved the functionality of the game since client restarts are still required after every single patch.
My suggestion: perform a backout tomorrow at downtime, fix the gameplay issues (graphics, sound, lag, crashes), pull the Launcher component completely out, then re-release Crucible 1.5, and revamp your QA / testing processes. |

Black Remorse
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.13 20:38:00 -
[71] - Quote
Any command line switch or so to skip the launcher and go straight to the login screen? |

Anita1
Mortis Angelus Northern Coalition.
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.13 20:44:00 -
[72] - Quote
can you guys pls not **** up this thread with the launcher bullshit too, there is already another thread about it, you might read it first
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Zedolf
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.13 20:52:00 -
[73] - Quote
Anita1 wrote:can you guys pls not **** up this thread with the launcher bullshit too, there is already another thread about it, you might read it first
There's also a thread related to issues (it's even has "Issues" in it's name!). Maybe you should take your evemail spam over there. Oh wait, you already did. 
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Anita1
Mortis Angelus Northern Coalition.
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.13 20:53:00 -
[74] - Quote
Zedolf wrote:Anita1 wrote:can you guys pls not **** up this thread with the launcher bullshit too, there is already another thread about it, you might read it first
There's also a thread related to issues (it's even has "Issues" in it's name!). Maybe you should take your evemail spam over there. Oh wait, you already did. 
well maybe you should f... off and play the game, oh wait you are wasting your time useless instead |

Pierced Brosmen
Priory Of The Lemon
61
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:56:00 -
[75] - Quote
Cool stuff... launcher worked quite well, though as I have my eve clients pinned to the start bar I noticed that the launcher is omitted when starting the clients from there (since they link to the \bin\ExeFile.exe and not the eve.exe file)
BUT... After reading the patch notes I noticed the part about the ships getting their "correct" racial exhaust and engine trails set and I was sad to see that the signature green exhaust of the Deimos has been lost (I call it signature, since I haven't seen any other ships with pure green exhaust. And also, in the Crucible trailer it was a group of Deimos with green trails that were in focus when the "Engine trails are back" was written on the screen... Why remove something that is unique enough to put it in the trailer? ) Also I am not sure I support the change of exhaust colour on the Orca... Unlike the other Ore ships, the Orca is part Caldari design and that would justify it having a Caldari'ish exhaust, wich happen to look better on that ship then the yellow we've got now |

Luckytania
Bullets of Justice Damned Nation
36
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:07:00 -
[76] - Quote
Mac Lion (OS X 10.7.3) running multiple concurrent clients / accounts
New launcher went without a hitch. (In fact, better than on WinXP, where it failed twice before succeeding.)
I do suggest you post in both this and the issues thread pointing at where to find the info about setting up multiple Eve clients on Mac so people don't get so frustrated hunting it down. (BTW, I found the info at: Multiple Clients. But would be nice to have a DEV acknowledge the legitimacy of that in this and the Issues threads.)
Only sad note is that my frame rates have dropped substantially. Perhaps as much as by half. I noticed on the patch notes that another attempt to improve stability was included in this patch (very sorely needed) so this could be a byproduct.
Not crashing is essential, but please do take another look at performance for your Mac based customers. |

Luckytania
Bullets of Justice Damned Nation
36
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:13:00 -
[77] - Quote
And a note about how the launcher is a major win, for me.
I have two ISP connections set up with load-balancing. Since the new launcher starts up multiple concurrent downloads, it now takes less than half the time for a patch to get all downloaded.
Now that is a minority use case. However it is so nice to get such a substantial improvement from a :CCP: action that I wanted to point it out. :) |

Tubrug1
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
24
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:30:00 -
[78] - Quote
You moved the station in Akiainavas, I am most displeased. Don't listen to what i say |

Ulf Raben
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:39:00 -
[79] - Quote
Something for everyone to LAUGH at :
CCP Spitfire Quote at the beginning of this thread : " EVE Online: Crucible 1.5 has been successfully deployed."
If ever in my entire 5 years of playing EVE something CCP has produced has been MORE UNSUCCESSFUL than this CRAP UPDATE ... i do not know .
Making 60 Million USD in Revenue from faithfull players / Year give some RESPOSIBILITY !
For ME .. most of my WORK inside EVE is now destroyed .. endless Hours of Time in-game LOST in my effort to get this CRAP UPDATE downloaded following all kind of fancy advice ..or lack thereof
For this i want some COMPENSATION ..if this is not the FINAL BREAK DOWN of EVE ON-LINE ..
The compensation better has to be REALLY SHINY to partly compensate me for lost TIME if and when it finally will be possible to download a FUNCTIONING EVE CLIENT from scratch again
Or may I suggest to CCP to make the upcoming Gathering of EVE Players in ICELAND into a FUNERAL EVENT !
For my part i can say : I am really ANGRY and DISSAPOINTED |

Razzishi
Trash Reclamation Experts
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:14:00 -
[80] - Quote
Not happy with my market quickbar not being organized AT ALL. I didn't particularly like being forced to have it alphabetically, but at least in that case I could control the order by using dummy characters in front of the names. Now....it's just completely unsorted, without apparent rhyme or reason.
At least with the new meta item names we'll be getting some way to tell which items are better than others other than memorization, but why are they being rolled out so slowly? If you know what the names are going to be eventually, why can't they just all be fixed in one swoop? The fact that it takes apparently real work to change the name of items in a systematized manner does not say good things about the code base.
edit: Oh, and I open my mineral group and see it is sorted by quality of item, suggesting that somehow the entire list is sorted under a similar paradigm. Thank you for making me swap absolutely every row and column of my spreadsheet so that I can again efficiently move through the list of items I deal with. |

Spank The Lady
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:20:00 -
[81] - Quote
I wasted time reading your 3 posts in this tread, seeing that they were more about ranting then anything else like asking for advice on getting the thing to work in a constructive manner....
I wasted time I could have spent on something more useful
I want COMPENSATION for my lost time |

Razzishi
Trash Reclamation Experts
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.13 22:22:00 -
[82] - Quote
Oh, and Minerals are automagically sorted by item quality low to high (Trit on top, Morph on bottom) but Drone poop is sorted in the exact opposite order. What other new and wondrous things will I discover in the market tonight? |

Zedolf
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
1
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:43:00 -
[83] - Quote
Razzishi wrote:Oh, and Minerals are automagically sorted by item quality low to high (Trit on top, Morph on bottom) but Drone poop is sorted in the exact opposite order. What other new and wondrous things will I discover in the market tonight?
edit: I spoke too soon! Despite perfect ordering of minerals by value, and Drone poop starting at the top with the two most expensive ones, it actually then goes all over the place meaning that it's probably some internal number that players can't typically see that is causing this organization.
So.. TypeID then, mayhaps? Seems like they've managed to mess up EVE's internal alphabet, since it (apparently) can't list anything in alphabetical order anymore. :P |

Mirajane Cromwell
52
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:46:00 -
[84] - Quote
Raz Lictor wrote:I don't mind the name changes (which we knew were coming), so much as not putting a comprehensive list of what was changed in the patch notes. Or in the least indicating somewhere in the patch notes that the name changes were going through for 1.5. What's the point of having patch notes if you don't list half the things you're changing? Just noticed there's lots of limited, prototype, experimental and upgraded modules now but nothing about it in patch notes... are limited modules meta 1 or what? Weren't these changes waiting for revision?  |

Katy Ling
Crimnson Concept Flame Flaming Nebula
5
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:48:00 -
[85] - Quote
ok ... lets pretend that where just a bunch of players, trying to patch they're multiple clients and don't know anything about the new client launcher, and because they don't see a visible button in the client launcher where it says "export patch data" / "delete patch cache" they simply have no clue how those things are done and just want to click in launcher -> patch all clients -> play game
it is amazing it took so long for ccp to come with a launcher, as used in so many other online games, and the launcher doesn't even close himself .... probably you might tell me that there's some hidden option to "close launcher, after launching game" ... i just want to play eve, not play "find Easter eggs"
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Floating Hands
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:06:00 -
[86] - Quote
The Velator uses its old icon in the ship hanger but the new icon within the show info window. Or at least it looks that way to me. The icon in the ship hanger doesn't really look like the new Velator. |

Jak Savage
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:06:00 -
[87] - Quote
Yah the system it uses to sort info is realy messed up, for example my "people and places" folder, i had a system set up that at least alowed me to group them in some kind of order, now its compleatly random. have even remade a folder with the same exact name as one already in there, the new one is again placed in a random position and it's not even next to its idinticle twin. shure hope this gets fixed soon, but with every one having problems with the launcher it self, seems like where going to be stuck with this for a bit.
ccp, why where these problems not ironed out before going live? you had to have tested and seen the isues, did you push forward with it any ways, figuring you would iron them out after going live with it?
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Versuvius Marii
Browncoats of Persephone Ironworks Coalition
54
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:39:00 -
[88] - Quote
Not liking the launcher. Really not. It worked fine before. So what if every other MMO out there has a sodding patcher/launcher... now we have to load the stupid launcher every time there's a patch. More clicking just to bring the game into the 21st century in the eyes of the internet elite? And even more clicking if you want to disable the bloody thing, which I have done. Oh and it's more CPU intensive for some unknown reason - it worked just fine before.
Seriously do not understand what the need for this was other than to satisfy MMOfags.
Also fix Eve Gate, specifically the fact I can't use a ' in a mail without it somehow giving out coding errors, and the stupidly increasing font sizes, and making me log in to send a mail and thus defeating the point of Gate. Which is an annoying process to do now as you've got to load the launcher, which in turn loads the client(launcher has been disabled, but still had to disable it CCP)... See where I'm going? |

Tjalve Myr'Aelyn
Nisroc Angels The Obsidian Front
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:49:00 -
[89] - Quote
What happens with the locations in th right-click menu? They are completely out of any order now, not sorted by name, nor creation day.

I was used to sort the locations by name in the menu, adding prefixes like "_" helped a lot to get certain bookmarks on top of the list. That doesn't work anymore. What I am doing wrong? Is there any chance I can sort my locations again - finding important bookmarks on top of the location list is sometimes essential for surviving in PvP ... |
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CCP Cascade
79

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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:02:00 -
[90] - Quote
As of 23:57 GMT we released a new Launcher and a new repair tool to resolve some issues that players have been experiencing during the initial deployment of Crucible 1.5.
Those of you experiencing issues with the Launcher or updating the game, please follow these steps:
1.Reboot the computer. 2.Navigate to the EVE client install folder. 3.Run the Repair tool until it finshes. 4.Run eve.exe from the same folder
We ask people to reboot their computer to make sure that there are no locked files or other processes running while running the repair tool. This would otherwise interfere with the repair tool and prevent the client from updating.
Please let us know if this resolves the issues you are experiencing. Associate Technical Producer - Core Technology Group |
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Xurr
Angelic Insurrection Corp
15
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:53:00 -
[91] - Quote
So, if I understand this horrible new patcher correctly, after i patch my first client i then have to export that, then import it for the next.
So how about, ya know, if you allow us to put the patch by default into a default folder and let us set the launcher to check there first for patches.
Previously it was:
Client 1 downloads patch, un-check clean up. Client 2 and so on don't have to be told where the patch is.
Now:
Client 1 downloads patch. Export patch. Client 2 starts up, tries to download patch. Client 2 then needs to be told to import the patch.
By the way, thanks for deleting all my settings. I really love the random reload into the CQ trash. |

Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
79
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Posted - 2012.03.14 01:40:00 -
[92] - Quote
malaire wrote:Launcher was saying "Client is Ready" but when I pressed Play, I was still required to restart EVE to install Client Update.
If Launcher can't install client updates, this isn't that big change since I am still required to restart EVE for most installs. This! What good is a super fancy Launcher if it can't handle *all* client updates. All this Launcher does is create more steps for me to get into the game. Where is the value-add?
The Launcher took a little fiddling to figure out with a junction-based EVE-O client installation, too.
Steps to launch multiple clients (Win7 64 bit OS):
1) Open client #1 by double-clicking on the previously made EVE-O client shortcut.
2) Press "Play" in the new Launcher.
3) Close the Launcher.
4) Open client #2 by double-clicking on the previously made shortcut to the first junction.
5) Press "Play" in the new Launcher.
6) Close the Launcher.
Rinse and repeat for subsequent junction-based client launches.
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CCP Cascade
86

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Posted - 2012.03.14 01:47:00 -
[93] - Quote
As of 01:40 GMT (14th March) we released a new Launcher (Version 1.09) and a new repair tool to resolve some issues that players have been experiencing during the initial deployment of Crucible 1.5.
Those of you experiencing issues with the Launcher or updating the game, please follow these steps:
1.Reboot the computer. 2.Navigate to the EVE client install folder. 3.Run the Repair tool until it finshes. 4.Run eve.exe from the same folder
We ask people to reboot their computer to make sure that there are no locked files or other processes running while running the repair tool. This would otherwise interfere with the repair tool and prevent the client from updating.
Please let us know if this resolves the issues you are experiencing. Associate Technical Producer - Core Technology Group |
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Antraman
Mirai Yume
1
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Posted - 2012.03.14 01:52:00 -
[94] - Quote
Katy Ling wrote: and the launcher doesn't even close himself .... probably you might tell me that there's some hidden option to "close launcher, after launching game" ... i just want to play eve, not play "find Easter eggs"
There's some option though not hidden, in the Launcher's Options settings window - Startup tab that will Close the Eve Launcher after starting Eve Online when you check the box... |

Wyehr
Magister Corp Talocan United
0
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Posted - 2012.03.14 02:16:00 -
[95] - Quote
The bookmark ordering problem seems to be general, rather than specific to bookmarks. My skills are now in random order within the groups too.
Also, can you please ditch that stupid splash screen? Or at least make it not be on top of everything else. |

Maria delArtos
Teros Commercial Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2012.03.14 02:41:00 -
[96] - Quote
A few people mentioned it before, but I want to add emphasis...
Fix the quickbar ordering! It's quite useful to me alphabetical, but if they keep an order I set, that'd work too.
It's seriously messing with my market-fu :( |

Zmey Crafter
Tiny Crazy Corp
0
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Posted - 2012.03.14 04:15:00 -
[97] - Quote
Bookmarks in "Personal locations" section in right-click menu are not sorted after update. At least for me.
Hope it is a bug, not a feature and will be fixed soon. |

Alx Warlord
SUPERNOVA SOCIETY Tribal Conclave
74
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Posted - 2012.03.14 05:43:00 -
[98] - Quote
my dominix seams a little od....
joking! nice work on it, it looks a little less like a potato now... and remember a little less an upside dawn tennis.... but I still think that it would make a good use of a drone bay opening (with that green light, just like magatron have in its middle.)
but i just wonder, when that cloak-hunter destroyer will come in play??? |

Colinesk
ACCORD Industries
0
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Posted - 2012.03.14 05:59:00 -
[99] - Quote
I liked the manual download of the patches because my bandwidth in this country in the middle of africa is pretty limited.
143 MB take me half a day to download, if no power interruptions take place. With a real download manager it was no issue, just patience. Now it needs to work in one go, I wonder when that will happen here...
My game time is ending shortly, so I will see what choice I have to make. |

Caxie
Image Reality
0
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Posted - 2012.03.14 06:06:00 -
[100] - Quote
Changing the CFBundleName to the second or 3rd instance doesn't work anymore on Mac. Is there something I'm missing on the Mac side to get multiple clients to work again? |

hermerdoo
Isotope Laboratories The Laughing Men
0
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Posted - 2012.03.14 06:36:00 -
[101] - Quote
Works fine for me, 3 systems, multi client up at once. +1 CCP |

Empathic Psychopath
Cult of the Crayon
0
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Posted - 2012.03.14 08:09:00 -
[102] - Quote
CCP...do you ever, I mean EVER, actually test this stuff before dumping it on everyone? Seriously, my 11 installation folders that I use (1 per account) are all pretty much trashed now.
Previously what I would do is update a master installation folder that doesn't get used to play the game, nice clean install, has all the patches up to date, etc. Then I would use robocopy to sync this folder with all the other installation folders. Then run any client updates as they came along for each client that I started. I learned a long time ago that running multiple clients from a single install folder was a BAD thing to do since CCP seem to be good on theory but absolutely useless in the practical application of software.
Right now the only way I can get any clients to work is run the repair tool...11 times! And even then each time the repair tool runs it deletes C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE....why do that? You've just deleted ALL the updates on all my other clients. So now it's an endless loop of repair -> download update -> next client fails to repair -> download update -> RINSE AND ******* REPEAT!!!! ARRRRRRGGGGGHHHH!!!!!
WHY CHANGE THINGS NOW AND WHY ONLY DO IT HALF BAKED???? WHY??????!!!!!
Seriously, what is wrong with you people?????
EDIT: one more thing. Stop saying "it's on our list of things to do". Nobody believes you since this is your standard answer to questions like "why didn't you do this properly the first time?" |

taque
Special Situations TOHA Conglomerate
0
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Posted - 2012.03.14 08:18:00 -
[103] - Quote
SamuraiJack wrote:couple of things.
I run multiple clients. hopefully the launcher will now stop the multiple 4mb dl;s for each client? (btw. why do you not use the %user%\appdata\local\ccp\eve\download dir?)
Patches with the launcher. WHY OH WHY the root of the game install? Surely the appdata\local\ccp\eve\patches dir would be more sensible and allow easier multi client patching using the launcher?
Just some thoughts.
^this
i run 2 clients, i have to wait till both the clients are installed. and more annoying, one of my 2 clients had serious issues due to the patch, no overview, no neocom, ship not visible, pos not visible... so i cleared cache, setting, repairtool..nothing worked really. i was forced to download and install the whole client again.
as it is pretty slow it is installing for hours. all hours i am unable to play,
we can argue about how much baww that is, but if you have not that much spare time and need to spend the whole evening downloading 1 client and being unable to play on the other account due to this then that is a little bit dissapointing.
launcher looks great but i would love to see those buttons 'settings' etc to be highlighted. it will improve the readability. i knew those buttons were somehwere but i had to look for them pretty hard :p
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Kaivaja
State War Academy Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2012.03.14 08:23:00 -
[104] - Quote
Would it be too much to ask to get all changes added to the patch notes? I would love to see full list of renamed modules, implats, etc. |

Hannott Thanos
Notorious Legion
15
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Posted - 2012.03.14 08:33:00 -
[105] - Quote
Empathic Psychopath wrote:emorage
Try to do some programming. It is a hell of a lot smarter to release something that works (if it works on their computers, they have to release to see what breaks on our computers) without all the functionality, because debugging a simple program and fixing that takes an insane amount of time off the time it would take to find and fix bugs if they released the launcher with full functionality.
TL;DR, you don't know how programming stuff works |

Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
170
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Posted - 2012.03.14 09:41:00 -
[106] - Quote
sound is fukked since the patch right now. FIX IT SOON? |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
390
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Posted - 2012.03.14 10:08:00 -
[107] - Quote
I don't get the point of adding a new application (launcher) to download patches without starting EvE, when....
... you start EvE and it still finds updates to apply and still have to restart the client like before the launcher was introduced.
I mean, you add a piece of software (that I know costed a lot of hours to code) that runs all the time and is effectively only useful once a month (a bigger update).
At the same time, said piece of software won't avoid a client restart in the most common situation of a client update.
Am I alone at thinking this has little sense?
Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |

Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
171
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Posted - 2012.03.14 10:22:00 -
[108] - Quote
they stated somewhere client updates will go in the short term, they didnt want to change too much in this single patch just to prevent too much mess and bugs.
btw. in the launcher settings you can set it up to disappear again after client start and only show up on updates. |

Lemming Alpha1dash1
Lemmings Online
4
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Posted - 2012.03.14 11:15:00 -
[109] - Quote
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Roime
Shiva Furnace
281
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Posted - 2012.03.14 11:30:00 -
[110] - Quote
Bugs:
- sound volume is no longer dependent on the distance to sound source (ie you hear modules even fully zoomed out)
- comma no longer works as decimal separator, Win7 locale Finnish
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
390
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Posted - 2012.03.14 11:41:00 -
[111] - Quote
I tried a mission. I accepted it, went to the intended system, right clicked to warp to it and...
... no "warp to" menu entry.
Had to add the mission warp point as bookmark in the people and places window, then I could warp to that bookmark. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |

Kingston Black
Indiscipline Incorporated
6
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Posted - 2012.03.14 11:48:00 -
[112] - Quote
hi, could the launcher app have a different icon to the eve client icons please its annoying as hell having 4 of em on the taskbar and not knowing which one at a glance is the damn launcher to log another client in,
and yes i know it will be in a separate stack to the eve client icons but it still bugs the hell out of me
bar that it all appears to work
Also, could i have commas back in my range box in the directional scanner pretty please way too many numbers without the commas :S |

kartofius al andalus
Bliss Corp
0
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Posted - 2012.03.14 12:15:00 -
[113] - Quote
i like it, especially the tiny time saver links - thanks :) |

Fukkie Me
Red Light Research
0
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Posted - 2012.03.14 12:22:00 -
[114] - Quote
So yesterday I jump on the PC to have a quick bit of eve-time only to find that there is a new patch. Being the owner of 4 accounts makes this the usual headache...
I patch all four clients and and enjoy a good game of eve.
TODAY I return to the PC after a very enjoyable 14hr Night shift, only to to find the usual Patch for the previous Patch... I get ready for the usual 2-10mb patch to fix the previous patch, but find that the new launcher (Not that there was anything wrong with the old one..) Stop 1/3 of the way through the installation and give an error message.
I try it on the other 3 accounts and get the same issue... Try running the "repair.exe" in the installation folder and get another ERROR message. Now I'm back to RE-INSTALLING 4 accounts.
Two quick Questions:
1 - Did Any1 else experience the same prob today?
2 - After years of the game being live when are we going to have a patch that doesn't require an aditional patch ? Surely some1 needs to test these things before going live on tranquility ?
Fly Safe F |

Ericdon
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2012.03.14 12:42:00 -
[115] - Quote
Fukkie Me wrote:So yesterday I jump on the PC to have a quick bit of eve-time only to find that there is a new patch. Being the owner of 4 accounts makes this the usual headache...
I patch all four clients and and enjoy a good game of eve.
TODAY I return to the PC after a very enjoyable 14hr Night shift, only to to find the usual Patch for the previous Patch... I get ready for the usual 2-10mb patch to fix the previous patch, but find that the new launcher (Not that there was anything wrong with the old one..) Stop 1/3 of the way through the installation and give an error message.
I try it on the other 3 accounts and get the same issue... Try running the "repair.exe" in the installation folder and get another ERROR message. Now I'm back to RE-INSTALLING 4 accounts.
Two quick Questions:
1 - Did Any1 else experience the same prob today?
2 - After years of the game being live when are we going to have a patch that doesn't require an aditional patch ? Surely some1 needs to test these things before going live on tranquility ?
Fly Safe F about 70% of players cant log in anymore, yesterday it was like 15%, now they fixed it to those 15% i guess |

Imuran
Zentor Industries
10
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Posted - 2012.03.14 12:56:00 -
[116] - Quote
Thank you for that one small change in the S&I Dialog that remebers if it is set to station, solar system, region etc
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Ynot Eyob
Nisroc Angels The Obsidian Front
75
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Posted - 2012.03.14 12:57:00 -
[117] - Quote
I found a new issue on both my PC and Laptop (Both win 7) after 1.5 patch.
Normal when you are in battle and the sound are loud, you can zoom out to get on distance and sound will play as on distance (Not that loud) This doesnt help anymore, so you have to go into your setting to reduce the over all volume. Problem if you do this, is the sound of an uncloak can be really hard to hear. Nisroc Angels Nisroc - Angel of Freedom Nisroc is known as "The Great Eagle".
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Lukas Rox
Torchwood Archive
3
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Posted - 2012.03.14 13:00:00 -
[118] - Quote
I'm usually very calm towards CCP, even if something doesn't go the way it should. I was patient during the monoclegate. But I don't like what's being done to EVE right now.
* The Installer is great - at least for people playing on one account. Please include the "optional" client updates ASAP - launcher should decrease the patching time, not increase it. * Module name changes are good neither for new players (tutorials are out of date now) nor for veterans (learn names again). It seems 29 pages of feedback is not enough for our dear Devs to understand this. Not to mention a quiet omission from the patch notes. How many times did miscommunication happen so far, dear Devs? * Crucible 1.0 and 1.1 were great. 1.5 is by far the worst part of it.
Now the positives:
* small things are great! Keep them coming! * Implant name change is welcome - there were simply too many to memorize anyway.
I believe the feedback we give You will result in some constructive fix. |
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
110

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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:02:00 -
[119] - Quote
Lukas Rox wrote: * The Installer is great - at least for people playing on one account. A fix for people playing multiple accounts is mandatory. Also, please include the "optional" client updates ASAP - launcher should decrease the patching time, not increase it.
Thanks for the feedback, it's appreciated We're planning on doing exactly that, but we have to do it carefully, since it requires changes to the EVE client logon mechanics (the patch is offered to the client in a strange, legacy manner) and we don't want to change the way it's done, and leave people connecting from University networks or via various ISP's to become traffic shaped.
Fear not! we will move it into the Launcher 
Software Engineer, Core Infrastructure, Team Special Circumstances |
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The Olive
Count With Teddy Mercenaries Stay Calm Don't Panic
0
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:09:00 -
[120] - Quote
I connect through my universities proxy, or at least used to. Auto updates never worked but that wasn't an issue. Looks like i won't be able to play eve for 4 years, I can't download 5gb every 2 days.
The exe in the bin folder worked fine, but obviously my client's now out of date. I really don't understand what purpose removing manual updates serves
My university uses NAT.
Exe Doesn't launch. Doesn't even start a process or prompt any response from the log server.
---
Exe in bin folder. Starts. Incompatible protocol now due to it being an outdated build. The most interesting thing from the log server is it saying 'Unexpected response from server:' '*then delivering line by line the message you get when you try to connect to the uni network without using proxy settings/validating your computer*' Is the launcher not using my systems connection settings or spoofing another machine or something?
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Launcher No connection could be made to the content server. Please make sure that your Internet connection is up and restart the Launcher
*trying to post log bear with me*
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Repairer Useless.
*trying to post log bear with me* |

Rroff
The Xenodus Initiative.
1
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:15:00 -
[121] - Quote
Robert Caldera wrote:sound is fukked since the patch right now. FIX IT SOON?
to add some positives: =) Dots and commas as decimal separator AWESOME doubleclick in the order window to show market details AWESOME noobships not really neccessary but AWESOME
The lack of attenuation on the sound sources has been a problem on SISI for weeks and weeks and reported multiple times (the bug hunters were fully aware of it) - theres also another issue especially with projectile weapons and projectile sentry guns/pos guns where they all play their firing sound once on the first time you see them (when not firing)... that these issues have made it to TQ is quite frankly disgraceful and they should be taking a hard look at their quality control procedures. |

Roime
Shiva Furnace
287
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:46:00 -
[122] - Quote
The sound bug is actually the first one I've experienced in EVE that really hurts the gameplay.
But what is this crap about having several clients for multiaccounting?
I have a single instance, triplebox all the time. |
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
110

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Posted - 2012.03.14 15:26:00 -
[123] - Quote
The Olive wrote:Repairer Useless.
Type Error __init__() takes 6 arguments (2 given) Can I get my hands on the rest of that log? Dump it on pastebin for full HTML loveliness. Software Engineer, Core Infrastructure, Team Special Circumstances |
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zoltar pdp
WALLTREIPERS WALLTREIPERS ALLIANCE
0
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Posted - 2012.03.14 15:36:00 -
[124] - Quote
Classic QA team failure.
Sometimes one wonders if you send all your incompetent workers to the QA team instead of promptly firing them, because it's been the same **** for 8 years now. As someone said above, sound issues have been repeatedly reported on SiSi and the invisible gate activation effect bug would have been as easy to avoid as jumping a *uckin'* gate when testing the game.
Just speechless as usual. |

Grey Stormshadow
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
1051
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Posted - 2012.03.14 15:40:00 -
[125] - Quote
90% Positive: - awesome patch/mini expansion with plenty of fine tweaks and additions. Thank you and plenty of respect to all involved.
1% Neutral: - 1 parrot for some issues with launcher and inability to use it to patch multiple clients at once.
9% Supernegative: - Boot to the head for still not willing/being able to fix the neocom nerf and all the annoyances with it. No cake for you.
Get |

The Olive
Count With Teddy Mercenaries Stay Calm Don't Panic
0
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Posted - 2012.03.14 16:08:00 -
[126] - Quote
CCP Atropos wrote:The Olive wrote:Repairer Useless.
Type Error __init__() takes 6 arguments (2 given) Can I get my hands on the rest of that log? Dump it on pastebin for full HTML loveliness.
Thanks for the response. http://pastebin.com/wTD0jAAu
Window is just 'Errors occured, see [log file's path] for details'
Although it's a fresh install (yesterdays build), so my problem is probably more to do with how the launcher connects than with any corrupted files. I was just running the repair because it was suggested for slightly -similar problems in here. |

Mongo Edwards
Grey Templars Ushra'Khan
7
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Posted - 2012.03.14 16:48:00 -
[127] - Quote
When I have to install an update with the launcher it says it is unable to while I have iTunes and Open Office running. Is there a reason why these programs can't be open while patching but other programs are fine? |
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
110

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Posted - 2012.03.14 16:58:00 -
[128] - Quote
Mongo Edwards wrote:When I have to install an update with the launcher it says it is unable to while I have iTunes and Open Office running. Is there a reason why these programs can't be open while patching but other programs are fine?
Does the update specifically mention those applications, or did you do trial and error to find out what to close before it continued? I'm interested to know if either iTunes or Open Office would be indexing the client for some reason. Software Engineer, Core Infrastructure, Team Special Circumstances |
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Kaivaja
State War Academy Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2012.03.14 17:11:00 -
[129] - Quote
CCP Atropos wrote:Does the update specifically mention those applications, or did you do trial and error to find out what to close before it continued? My situation is different because update worked fine for me (Win 7 64 bit). But your question reminded me of one detail: update refuses to continue if EveMon is running. Is that intentional? Surely EveMon can't lock any files from Eve client? |
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
110

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Posted - 2012.03.14 17:14:00 -
[130] - Quote
Did you determine it was EveMon by trial and error or did the updater mention EveMon specifically? Software Engineer, Core Infrastructure, Team Special Circumstances |
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Kaivaja
State War Academy Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2012.03.14 17:26:00 -
[131] - Quote
CCP Atropos wrote:Did you determine it was EveMon by trial and error or did the updater mention EveMon specifically? Installer mentioned EVEMon.exe quite specifically. |

Desmont McCallock
135
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:00:00 -
[132] - Quote
Indeed EVEMon has no interaction with the EVE installation. I updated my EVE clients while EVEMon was running. Ofcourse I have my EVEMon installed outside the EVE client installation folder.
On behalf of The EVEMon Dev Team |
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CCP Donut Golem
C C P C C P Alliance
42

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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:21:00 -
[133] - Quote
Desmont McCallock wrote:Indeed EVEMon has no interaction with the EVE installation. I updated my EVE clients while EVEMon was running. Ofcourse I have my EVEMon installed outside the EVE client installation folder.
On behalf of The EVEMon Dev Team
We merely check whether or not a process is running from the EVE client folder . |
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Kaivaja
State War Academy Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:53:00 -
[134] - Quote
CCP Donut Golem wrote:We merely check whether or not a process is running from the EVE client folder  . You must check something else as well, since in my case Eve client is in C:\Games\Eve and EveMon is in C:\Games\EveMon. |

Mioelnir
Cataclysm Enterprises Ev0ke
56
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Posted - 2012.03.14 19:02:00 -
[135] - Quote
I didn't delve into it, but when I start the launcher and there is an update available, it ask for permission for privilege escalation, since it needs to patch stuff in locations it otherwise can't. So far, so good.
Once the patching is finished, they launcher presents the play button however instead of closing. There seems to be no privilege revocation? This is of course on a windows 7 console, so I do not have my accustomed toolset to find this out, so I might very likely be wrong. But it looks like a step back to the 1990s security model. |

Versuvius Marii
Browncoats of Persephone Ironworks Coalition
56
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Posted - 2012.03.14 19:59:00 -
[136] - Quote
Question, why the hell do people have multiple clients to patch? Why not just the one client and open it multiple times? This method works just fine for me, and as a result have - would you believe it - just one client to patch, not including Sisi. It's not rocket science is it? |

Mongo Edwards
Grey Templars Ushra'Khan
7
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Posted - 2012.03.14 20:16:00 -
[137] - Quote
It asks me specifically to close those applications. Maybe I'll uninstall Open Office and iTunes as they are much faster to reinstall than EVE. Although I didn't think it would matter since they are in separate folders. |

Nikolai Vodkov
Pro Synergy
24
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Posted - 2012.03.14 20:33:00 -
[138] - Quote
Wow...love the changes. You guys did leave out one AWESOME change from the patch notes. Upon creating manufacturing jobs, when selecting the installation it now remembers the "Range" filter. Before you had to change it every time to "solar system" if you wanted to use the POS... THANK YOU, this small change has made a huge difference in making the process less annoying! +1
EDIT: Also the entire UI seems a lot faster, snappier and smoother! :) Run level 4 missions? Double your profits!Let us loot your missions and give you 45% of it's value.Join channel: "Pro Synergy" to find out more. |

Achaiah7
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
2
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Posted - 2012.03.14 20:53:00 -
[139] - Quote
Thank you :CCP: for wiping all of my settings again. I appreciate the opportunity to have to re-do all 29273 shortcuts, windows and dialog boxes that I had set up just like I wanted before the "patch". Seriously guys, will you EVER test you crap before you release it? This is not the first time all the options got wiped. |

Zedolf
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
2
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Posted - 2012.03.14 21:01:00 -
[140] - Quote
Achaiah7 wrote:Thank you :CCP: for wiping all of my settings again. I appreciate the opportunity to have to re-do all 29273 shortcuts, windows and dialog boxes that I had set up just like I wanted before the "patch". Seriously guys, will you EVER test you crap before you release it? This is not the first time all the options got wiped.
If you're on win7, 64 bit, Check if CCP has made a new folder in your %appdata%\Local\CCP\Eve
If so, do this:
Browse to %appdata%\Local \CCP\EVE\c_program_files_(x86)_ccp_eve_tranquility
Copy the folder named "settings" from here into this folder and overwrite:
%appdata%\Local \CCP\EVE\c_progra~2_ccp_eve_tranquility
Credits go to Miss President Although according to a CCP post it should have already been fixed, but it never hurts to check.
Edit: I would link Miss Presidents' evegate profile and the CCP post, but it seems the boards don't like to parse the url tag. |

Drahcir Nasom
Independent Manufacturers Independent Manufacturers Alliance
7
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Posted - 2012.03.14 21:45:00 -
[141] - Quote
I'm sorry, but I've read the patch notes carefully 3 times and I still can't find the bit in the patch notes where it says warping a cloaked ship inside a POS force field will now decloak the ship. It didn't used to, but with this patch it now does.
Please can we have our cloaked ships inside POS forcefields back.
Drahcir |

C'alvez
Toxic-Waste-Corporation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.14 22:22:00 -
[142] - Quote
I'd like to say something nice about the new launcher, unfortunately I can't, at least not for the Mac version I normally use. Simply because there the new build won't start properly. (13" MacBook Pro, i5, 4GB, Intel graphics, Lion 10.7.3)
Actually I don't even see the starting screen of the launcher, instead I get a "exception" pop-up delivering a dumb (euphemism!) message about checking internet connection and restarting launcher. Internet runs and restart gives same error. What can I do?
I'm posting this here because no CCP official (apart from Spitfire's starting post) has bothered to show up in the Mac issues thread. Seems like a lack of interest to me.
Hey! We are the ones paying you, not the other way round! The least you could do was showing respect for your customers.
For the records: I'm using a windows machine as backup, launcher runs OK there, settings (after having found them) prevent pre-start screen. No problems so far. |

Roh Voleto
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
107
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Posted - 2012.03.14 23:29:00 -
[143] - Quote
I understand that this is not very helpful. But, notice how the "EVE Online: Crucible 1.5 Issues " thread has thirty pages of replies, while the "EVE Online: Crucible 1.5 Feedback" thread has a whole seven pages? I wonder why that is? |

Alunis
Focused Annihilation Detrimental Imperative
9
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Posted - 2012.03.14 23:31:00 -
[144] - Quote
Devs,
When are you going to make a broadcast post about the Firewall and Stateful Packet Inspection switching causing a great many issues with those that have not been able to get online with launcher issues?
When are you going to deploy a fix that will not require SPI to be turned off and firewall exceptions for protocol inspection having to be made or firewalls being turned completely off?
People are waiting for a solution and I along with several others who have collaborated over the forums have come up with a workaround that should allow a number of people to get back online till you fix this issue.
The problem I have with any positive feedback is that the problems that people are having were mention back in January and maybe earlier when people started having issues getting on Sisi.
CCP needs to use a different protocol in order to stream updates because a large number of people such as military personnel will not have the option to turn off SPI filtering in their network due to security setups on their networks. The way that the launcher puts out updates has to be changed or you risk losing those players and those on LANs on college campuses that have no access to firewall rules for their networks.
While the majority of the players are able to get online, there are still many that are not. In some cases there will be no fix for this unless the network protocol being used is changed. |

Alunis
Focused Annihilation Detrimental Imperative
9
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Posted - 2012.03.14 23:35:00 -
[145] - Quote
Drahcir Nasom wrote:I'm sorry, but I've read the patch notes carefully 3 times and I still can't find the bit in the patch notes where it says warping a cloaked ship inside a POS force field will now decloak the ship. It didn't used to, but with this patch it now does.
Please can we have our cloaked ships inside POS forcefields back.
Drahcir
It was never intended for ships to be cloaked inside a POS in the first place. You cannot activate the module unless you're outside the POS so why should you be able to be cloaked in it now because the mechanic wasn't working properly previously? |

Augustus Ogana
EntroPraetorian Academy EntroPraetorian Aegis
1
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Posted - 2012.03.15 00:36:00 -
[146] - Quote
Feedback: Crucible 1.5 proves that your current deployment checklists can result in around 50% interruption of service for up to 36 hours, causing untold payroll costs and loss of credibility.
Most wanted improvement: Stable patch releases. EvE - the Linux of MMOs - now with occasionally-broken installers! :P |

Simvastatin Montelukast
Irregular Warfare Mean Coalition
21
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Posted - 2012.03.15 01:29:00 -
[147] - Quote
Your EVE Online installer has failed because of download problems or corrupt data. Please download the full install package files below.
1 hour and 42 min to go.
Great update guys
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Lederstrumpf
Tax Evasion Ltd.
1
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Posted - 2012.03.15 06:13:00 -
[148] - Quote
> EVE Online: Crucible 1.5 has been successfully deployed.
No it has not. It's bugged as ever.
My user preferences once again got wiped because you are just a bunch of clowns who give a **** about properly dealing with bug reports. So I give a **** ever buying your products for real life money again. And I'm telling everybody I see to stay away from playing EVE, as it's not worth it with all the hassle involved.
Even the new launcher is a ******* joke. Slow like in the 1980ies. Ever heared of P2P?
Instead you're removing manual patching... ROTFL
And wanna hear some news?
Your loser launcher requires me to confirm I want to play after having started the application.
How fun is that?
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Lederstrumpf
Tax Evasion Ltd.
1
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Posted - 2012.03.15 06:22:00 -
[149] - Quote
Mongo Edwards wrote:It asks me specifically to close those applications. Maybe I'll uninstall Open Office and iTunes as they are much faster to reinstall than EVE. Although I didn't think it would matter since they are in separate folders.
Don't wreck your working applications because of some ****** CCP petition idiot advice. Not worth it. |

Aelita
CHON THE R0NIN
0
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Posted - 2012.03.15 07:38:00 -
[150] - Quote
Meninha wrote:The Patcher itself worked fine... BUT Serious FPS Problems....    Down to 5-10 fps when at planet, 2-8 when entering incusion site. Max FPS is on warp with 25-30 fps SOLVED: Reset all settings with launcher tool Tried all out, lowes settings, best performance, Interval imidiate, one, default, four.. etc.. no changes... never had problems before..       Running on Mac OS X 10.7.3 iMac 27" 3.6 IntelCore i5 8GB 1333 MHz DDR3 ATI Radeon HD 5750 1024 MB (2560x1440) Edit: Downloading client again... i-¦ll keep ya posted... MAC Client: Multi clients don-¦t work anymore... :-/ An
Given feedback to new patching and 1.5x version. Big problem is and you were hit by it. Someone decided to ignore old GPU settings in optins page. So everything return to "High" settings on GPU page. I had all setup to low and medium according to my average GPU installed, but new patch did revert it back.
Especially I hate it did check on Load Station Environment. I had it check off on all 6 EVE Instances.
So generally new launcher is well except that client updates should be D/L with new patcher too. But messing settings again is big step backward.
TIA
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Goose69
Particle Men Industries Beyond-Repair
0
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Posted - 2012.03.15 10:52:00 -
[151] - Quote
So let me get this straight....
I used to click the Eve Icon on my desktop and it started the Eve client and took me to the login. I would then login and select my character that I wanted to play with that particular day...
Now, I click the Eve Icon on my desktop and it starts Eve Launcher, which I then have to click to play Eve, which starts Eve client and takes me to the login. I login and select my character to play with.
Right now I am thinking wtf? Shocked You have just added another step to the whole startup process. What is the point. Is there any way I can bypass this and just start Eve client directly? Seems like a waste of time.
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Elebereth Valar
Smith and Wesson
1
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Posted - 2012.03.15 10:59:00 -
[152] - Quote
THANK YOU CCP for improving the industry GUI.
2 clicks less per invention @ my POS with ~300 inventions a week make 600 clicks less per week!!!
If you want to decreas the number even more a "repeat last action" button in the context menu would be highly appreciated. |

sixfortyk
2
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Posted - 2012.03.15 12:00:00 -
[153] - Quote
Goose69 wrote:So let me get this straight....
I used to click the Eve Icon on my desktop and it started the Eve client and took me to the login. I would then login and select my character that I wanted to play with that particular day...
Now, I click the Eve Icon on my desktop and it starts Eve Launcher, which I then have to click to play Eve, which starts Eve client and takes me to the login. I login and select my character to play with.
Right now I am thinking wtf? Shocked You have just added another step to the whole startup process. What is the point. Is there any way I can bypass this and just start Eve client directly? Seems like a waste of time.
I understand the extra step for the launcher to identify new releases, but if there is no change - then please just launch the app.
Possibly default to launch the app, and a 'wait until i click launch button' setting for the 3 people who want to click launch.
The only benefit from the launch button for me personally is that after a patch, I can run my shell command to edit my pInfo and change the bundle name back to what I want it to be - if the launcher was smart enough to retain this detail then even that feature would be mute. |

Terrorfrodo
Deep Space Darwinian Law Enforcement Agency
21
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Posted - 2012.03.15 12:36:00 -
[154] - Quote
Kaivaja wrote:CCP Donut Golem wrote:We merely check whether or not a process is running from the EVE client folder  . You must check something else as well, since in my case Eve client is in C:\Games\Eve and EveMon is in C:\Games\EveMon. I can confirm that EVEmon interferes with the EVE client in some way. Even though it's installed in a completely unrelated folder.
-sometimes when I start my client I get the message that it is corrupt and needs to be repaired, which is usually not true. Closing EVEmon fixes this and I can start the client again -sometimes when EVE tries to install a patch it fails or does not even start until I close EVEmon
EVE seems to think EVEmon is a running client. This problem first appeared a few months ago... whether it was after an EVEmon patch or an EVE patch I cannot say. |

Rayno Severasse
M. LTD Galactic Theological Freedom Order
0
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Posted - 2012.03.15 12:37:00 -
[155] - Quote
guys i dont really know what to do anymore yestrday i had that problem and i redownload eve and it worked to me tough the Bin folder ExeFile but i did the same thing today and it just not work is tell me to update my launcher now and it stuck in (1/3) 25% all the time and just get back to 0 so one day ok i understand but 2 days ?? we will get our lost time back or something couse i dont really going to keep play if it will keep happening another few days couse i dont planing to spend my money on something that not worth it and i really like eve but is not eve but CCP soo can i some how fix it ? |

Slumber Hawk
Shadow on the moon
6
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Posted - 2012.03.15 14:41:00 -
[156] - Quote
okay, so EVE launcher works fine for me, haven't had a problem with it yet.
Today it downloaded about 20MB and patched EVE. [still a smiley face here] But NO reference, no info, no link? Not even a Patched problem X, Y, Z with launcher? Can't phone friends to try it now? |

Danny Husk
EVE University Ivy League
23
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Posted - 2012.03.15 21:22:00 -
[157] - Quote
Crucible 1.5 was going fine, looking real good . . . right up to the point where the client wet the bed while I was docking at a station, then apparently TRASHED ALL OF MY CLIENT SETTINGS, for every one of my accounts, all in one go. This is ****ing inexcusable. Seriously, I'm about a gnat's ass away from /accountscanceled. |

ORCACommander
Astral Synthetics
7
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Posted - 2012.03.16 03:23:00 -
[158] - Quote
give me back my module names or give me death. |

Voxinian
1
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Posted - 2012.03.16 09:05:00 -
[159] - Quote
Lederstrumpf wrote:> EVE Online: Crucible 1.5 has been successfully deployed.
No it has not. It's bugged as ever.
My user preferences once again got wiped because you are just a bunch of clowns who give a **** about properly dealing with bug reports. So I give a **** ever buying your products for real life money again. And I'm telling everybody I see to stay away from playing EVE, as it's not worth it with all the hassle involved.
Even the new launcher is a ******* joke. Slow like in the 1980ies. Ever heared of P2P?
Instead you're removing manual patching... ROTFL
And wanna hear some news?
Your loser launcher requires me to confirm I want to play after having started the application.
How fun is that?
How about having a look at the launcher settings... you can enable autoplay and mute the launcher from starting unless there is an update.
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Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
197
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Posted - 2012.03.16 10:18:00 -
[160] - Quote
+1 for launching Eve directly if client is up to date.
It's annoying as hell to click on Play, especially if you are switching characters often! Eve community: An angry mob of bright people hunting witches, more torches, more hay forks, growing and growing. |

Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
305
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Posted - 2012.03.16 10:46:00 -
[161] - Quote
Seleia O'Sinnor wrote:+1 for launching Eve directly if client is up to date.
It's annoying as hell to click on Play, especially if you are switching characters often!
Have a look at the settings of the launcher. There's one for what you need. FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator and other 'useful' utilities. |

sixfortyk
3
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Posted - 2012.03.16 12:30:00 -
[162] - Quote
Steve Ronuken wrote:Seleia O'Sinnor wrote:+1 for launching Eve directly if client is up to date.
It's annoying as hell to click on Play, especially if you are switching characters often! Have a look at the settings of the launcher. There's one for what you need.
I don't get this shown in my launcher UI Steve, however; the launcher package has a file which I can edit and force a launcher to start the game.
Contents/Resources/cache/settings.yaml I changed OnlyShowLauncherOnUpdate: true
Don't try this at home I guess. |
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
110

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Posted - 2012.03.16 14:23:00 -
[163] - Quote
Kaivaja wrote:CCP Donut Golem wrote:We merely check whether or not a process is running from the EVE client folder  . You must check something else as well, since in my case Eve client is in C:\Games\Eve and EveMon is in C:\Games\EveMon. Bingo, that's what I was looking for. Fix pending a full test and should be out soon. Software Engineer, Core Infrastructure, Team Special Circumstances |
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Achaiah7
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
2
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Posted - 2012.03.16 16:32:00 -
[164] - Quote
Zedolf wrote:Achaiah7 wrote:Thank you :CCP: for wiping all of my settings again. I appreciate the opportunity to have to re-do all 29273 shortcuts, windows and dialog boxes that I had set up just like I wanted before the "patch". Seriously guys, will you EVER test you crap before you release it? This is not the first time all the options got wiped. If you're on win7, 64 bit, Check if CCP has made a new folder in your %appdata%\Local\CCP\Eve If so, do this: Browse to %appdata%\Local \CCP\EVE\c_program_files_(x86)_ccp_eve_tranquility Copy the folder named "settings" from here into this folder and overwrite: %appdata%\Local \CCP\EVE\c_progra~2_ccp_eve_tranquility Credits go to Miss President Although according to a CCP post it should have already been fixed, but it never hurts to check. Edit: I would link Miss Presidents' evegate profile and the CCP post, but it seems the boards don't like to parse the url tag.
Thanks I will try that. Of course, I already went through the pain of resetting most of my shortcuts.....for multiple clients. Good to know that CCP doesn't test on such uncommon platforms as say... windows 7 (64bit). |

Kaivaja
State War Academy Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2012.03.17 09:44:00 -
[165] - Quote
Achaiah7 wrote:Good to know that CCP doesn't test on such uncommon platforms as say... windows 7 (64bit). I'm running Window 7 Professional 64-bit. All versions of the V1.5.x patch have worked perfectly on my PC (/me knocks on wood). Saying something like "CCP doesn't test" is a bit arrogant based on very small selection of people with problems. The tens of thousands who don't have problems don't usually even read issues threads, let alone post in them. |

Versuvius Marii
Browncoats of Persephone Ironworks Coalition
56
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Posted - 2012.03.17 12:57:00 -
[166] - Quote
Amazing, the latest patch has completely wiped all my settings as though I were using a fresh install! No names saved in the login screen, no remembered window positions, nothing all gone!
A good job I told my guys to set a long skill, I thought those days were behind us. Ah well, tis just a sign that the good CCP is here I guess, and not the one that watches our actions not our words. |

Devok Jumarin
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
0
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Posted - 2012.03.17 18:58:00 -
[167] - Quote
As someone else mentioned several pages back, lack of separators in D-Scan Range field is brutal. This was removed why?
Hoping the overview issues (toggle for lock please if only one thing gets fixed) get corrected. Still no real feedback on the poll you obviously saw the need to have us take. You read the results, right? Right?
Please fix the problems you have introduced for those of us who like PvP (even those of us who are not that great at it, such as myself). I find myself avoiding 25+ size fleets, the overview can become extremely problematic at that point.
Graphic changes however have been quite nice IMHO over the last few patches. Many of the UI changes (with the glaring exception of the overview) I am quite pleased with.
I would also like a doughnut, they are very tasty and put a smile on my face. |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1294
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Posted - 2012.03.18 12:21:00 -
[168] - Quote
I noticed in the fitting screen weapons don't show the attributes of various munitions when loaded, mainly the range attribute. I loaded up my 425mm ac's with -50%, 0% and +60% range attribute ammo and then checked info on the 425's for optimal and falloff ranges. All of them showed the same range attributes.

I should have checked but I think it's only listing the base attribute of the module itself, like when it's not fitted to ship.
Now that I think about it, I wonder if skills are still being applied to the attributes.

On a side note, the launcher worked just fine on my computer. Also thanks for fixing the sound and text info issues in-game.
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Rroff
The Xenodus Initiative.
1
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Posted - 2012.03.18 15:16:00 -
[169] - Quote
On the plus side looks like the main sound bug was fixed pretty promptly :D (atleast doesn't seem to be a problem any more for me on either client on any PC I use). |

Voxinian
1
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Posted - 2012.03.18 15:19:00 -
[170] - Quote
Rroff wrote:On the plus side looks like the main sound bug was fixed pretty promptly :D (atleast doesn't seem to be a problem any more for me on either client on any PC I use).
Yup it is all good again. Thnx for fixing this quickly CCP cos it was annoying as hell.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1299
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Posted - 2012.03.19 04:11:00 -
[171] - Quote
Another thing, NPC Avatar portraits are showing as shadows only. This is in stations as well as in the Agent interaction text box.
Also it looks like the text issue hasn't been completely fixed.
I just spoke to Sister Alitura, actually her shadow, to restart the SoE Epic Arc and this is in the initial Agent interaction text box:
UI/Agents/DefaultMessages/MissionConfirmArcRestart
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Penny Ibramovic
Wormhole Engineers Greater Realms
11
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Posted - 2012.03.19 19:09:00 -
[172] - Quote
I understand the launcher will make development of the game much easier. That's cool. It still remains an extra screen to click-through for us poor, RSI-inflicted players. OR DOES IT? Sure, we can turn it off, but then we miss that being-included vibe that is so important. How about a different solution?
Would it be possible to make a change so that if the launcher has focus then hitting return will have the same effect as clicking 'play'? That would be pretty awesome, as well as reflecting the same functionality seen on the character select screen that I've come to love.
No more having to position the mouse! No more working out which button on the Mac mouse to press! Just hit return and go! |

Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
226
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Posted - 2012.03.21 11:08:00 -
[173] - Quote
Rek Seven wrote:I really like the new launcher. It makes it a lot easier to navigate to other eve related links (youtube, eve news, etc.)
In the future when/if Dust is released on the PC maybe the dust client will be added to this launcher so we can easily switch from eve spaceships to eve fps.
Question: If i leave the launcher open on my home computer while i'm at work, will it automatically update my client so it's ready when i get home?
I take my original statement back. The launcher is pointless....
At first i thought the news panel in the launcher would be updated to suit the new feed we get on the normal login, enabling me to read the information in my own time. The launcher does nothing for me and just added to the processes needed to play eve. |

Margo Mardus
5pm In Hades Steve's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.03.22 16:15:00 -
[174] - Quote
85242012.03.22 15:53:32:366Closing connection to 87.237.38.200:26000: {'reasonCode': None, 'reason': u'The socket was closed', 'exception': error(10054, 'An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host'), 'reasonArgs': {}} 85252012.03.22 15:53:32:366Exception during MachoTransport::Close ignored. 85262012.03.22 15:53:32:367SessionHistory: reason=Clearing session attributes, session=sid:8308484336724790522, clientID:0, userid:8436803, languageID:EN, role:6917529027641081856, charid:91537828, address:82.131.16.75:8179, userType:21, sessionType:5, regionid:10000016, conste- 85272012.03.22 15:53:32:367llationid:20000202, allianceid:99001480, corpid:200393902, stationid:60012331, stationid2:60012331, worldspaceid:60012331, solarsystemid2:30001384, hqID:60012331, rolesAtAll:0, rolesAtHQ:0, rolesAtBase:0, rolesAtOther:0, genderID:True, bloodlineID:- 85282012.03.22 15:53:32:3672, raceID:1 85292012.03.22 15:53:32:367SessionHistory: reason=Setting session attributes, session=sid:8308484336724790522, clientID:0, userid:8436803, languageID:EN, role:6917529027641081856, charid:91537828, address:82.131.16.75:8179, userType:21, sessionType:5, regionid:10000016, constel- 85302012.03.22 15:53:32:367lationid:20000202, allianceid:99001480, corpid:200393902, stationid:60012331, stationid2:60012331, worldspaceid:60012331, solarsystemid2:30001384, hqID:60012331, rolesAtAll:0, rolesAtHQ:0, rolesAtBase:0, rolesAtOther:0, genderID:True, bloodlineID:2- 85312012.03.22 15:53:32:367, raceID:1 85322012.03.22 15:53:32:368Jump Queue: DoSessionChanging is cleaning jump queue info 85332012.03.22 15:53:32:368Stopping war 85342012.03.22 15:53:32:368Stopping consider 85352012.03.22 15:53:32:369alliance DOES NOT PROCESS DoSessionChanging 85362012.03.22 15:53:32:369members DOES NOT PROCESS DoSessionChanging 85372012.03.22 15:53:32:369applications DOES NOT PROCESS DoSessionChanging 85382012.03.22 15:53:32:369relationships DOES NOT PROCESS DoSessionChanging 85392012.03.22 15:53:32:369Stopping alliance 85402012.03.22 15:53:32:370SessionHistory: reason=Session attributes set, session=sid:8308484336724790522, clientID:0, languageID:EN, role:4611686018427387904, sessionType:5, rolesAtAll:0, rolesAtHQ:0, rolesAtBase:0, rolesAtOther:0 85412012.03.22 15:53:32:370SessionHistory: reason=Session attributes cleared, session=sid:8308484336724790522, clientID:0, languageID:EN, role:4611686018427387904, sessionType:5, rolesAtAll:0, rolesAtHQ:0, rolesAtBase:0, rolesAtOther:0 85422012.03.22 15:53:32:371Creating Closed Packet: The socket was closed exception:error(10054, 'An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host') 85432012.03.22 15:53:32:371Couldn't send close packet, rhe socket is probably already closed. [Errno 10054] An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host: 'descriptor not alive' 85442012.03.22 15:53:32:371Received OnDisconnect with reason= 0 and msg= The socket was closed 85452012.03.22 15:53:32:371GameUI::OnDisconnect 0 The socket was closed 85462012.03.22 15:53:32:371About to reboot the client because:connection lost 85472012.03.22 15:53:32:374About to reboot the client with:(0, None, u'..\\bin\\ExeFile.exe', u'/noconsole /forcelauncher') 85482012.03.22 15:53:32:438bluepy.Terminate - Reason: connection lost 85492012.03.22 15:53:32:450Will not dump processhealth info since it is not configured in prefs (ProcessHealthLogPath) 85502012.03.22 15:53:32:450Terminating process by request - returning 0 85512012.03.22 15:53:32:450Shutdown callbacks finished, terminating

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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1301
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Posted - 2012.03.22 23:23:00 -
[175] - Quote
Seems CCP is no longer looking at this thread.
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Llyd ApDicta
State Protectorate Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.24 02:45:00 -
[176] - Quote
I like the new launcher and the reasons you put out there makes sense.
But in God's name were you thinking when you changed the module names? I mean what the hell! Of course were the old names difficult and somewhat confusing to new players, but guess what: so are the new ones. Dammit. Its a complicated game. As long as you don't use "better ...", "even better ..." and "best ..." in the name it will always be confusing.
Now you also managed to confuse the old players along with the new ones. Great job.
What was that on Fanfest with the "user centered design"? I wonder how the name changes fit in there, since I certainly can't remember anyone leaving the game because the modules had to complicated names. |

Dapto
ANZAC ALLIANCE Executive Outcomes
0
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Posted - 2012.03.24 09:14:00 -
[177] - Quote
Cant even get the launcher to down load it stops at 15% and then proceeds to kill any other applications i may have running. I guess after 6 years its time to find the cancel subscriptions button as I'm not going to spend any more time trying to get it to work. Good work CCP you've just lost another long time player. |

bongpacks
Mudbug Acquisition Of Empire
26
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Posted - 2012.03.25 04:39:00 -
[178] - Quote
The sound falloff issue was partially resolved, now instead of being able to hear all sounds from any distance you can't hear sounds if you zoom even a little ways away from your ship. The launcher sounds are a bit muffled as well and the terrible new salvager sound still gets stuck sometimes and doesn't go way unless you re-log. I've had problems with my shield booster lately as well, gistii b-type small shield booster to be exact. If I deactivate it during the current cycle (pulse it) it has a tendency to get stuck in the "flashing red about to deactivate" stage but it continues to cycle and nothing short of jumping through a stargate , docking or offlining the module will make it stop. Wouldn't be much of a problem if it didn't continue to eat capacitor until it kills the cap but it does. The overview still needs fixing, I never asked for this terrible overview locking mess with mouseover and I certainly didn't ask for overview objects to remain in the overview for up to two seconds after they/you leave grid/explode/ect. Please make these things optional if you insist on them being part of the game, there was nothing wrong with the ctrl to lock overview mechanic in the first place.
PC Client XP x64 |
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