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Marlenus
Ironfleet Towing And Salvage
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Posted - 2008.06.26 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Horizon Taker If you're the type to whine and moan about TS, and can't figure it out, then I don't want to fly with you anyways. It's as simple as that.
And the Amarr continue to answer the OP's question. ------------------ Ironfleet.com |

Rhanna Khurin
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Posted - 2008.06.26 15:51:00 -
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Sounds like the main problem is Amarrian FCs then.
Well, how about a decent Caldari FC go and create a taskforce to go help the Amarr then and come and pew pew.
Free crumpets for all!
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Random Gen
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Posted - 2008.06.26 16:11:00 -
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As a total PVP noob and member of the 24th IC I'll give my impressions of why the Amarr faction is failing, in a few small anecdotes
The reason anyone is saying "I've been in a bunch of fleets and nobody has had any problems with it" is because everybody who doesn't want to bother with it or for whom it just doesn't work don't fleet up any more. I'm certainly not going to after last night. I can't use TS because the Mac client is buggy as hell (lolmacs, right?) and crashes constantly, so I get on EVE voice. FC says that orders will be relayed. They aren't, and I get left behind on a jump when I lag loading grid. I ask where we just jumped to, and get told no tactical information will be given in the fleet channel (???). So I go home to Amarr.
I actually login after hours at work where I'm on a Windows machine, and get on Teamspeak. I get told I have to register with the server to stay on it, but I can't register unless somebody lets me. I ask for an hour or so for somebody to let me register, then I get booted from the server for not being registered.
I'm in a fleet of about 10 people in T1 stuff capturing plexes. The FC tells everybody to be within 5k of the bunker. 2 WTs jump into the plex in rifters, and the FC says to stay at the bunker. A few seconds later he's saying he has one of them tackled...55km away. He blows up in a few seconds, then *****es about how nobody helped him. After about 3 hours killing NPCs at bunkers and running from any real engagement, we've captured 3 plexes, lost half the people to gate camps or whatnot, and the FC says it's been a great op and it's over. Net result: 3 plexes captured, 12 ships and 2 pods lost, no kills.
I've never seen a T2 ship other than an Interceptor in any of the Amarr fleets. I've never seen anything bigger than a cruiser (well I guess there was one Harbinger).
Nobody stays to fight even when we have a numerical advantage. A group of 8 of us or so jump through a gate, and there's a Munnin there. The FC says to tackle him, so a couple people zip out and put a point on. A few seconds later a Stabber shows up, and everybody who hasn't aggressed yet goes back through the gate. The people on the Munnin all die, since they're in T1 frigates.
I suppose it's possible I'm just a dumb PVP noob, but to me the whole thing is just made to fail. It's not really any fun any more.
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Khazeel
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Posted - 2008.06.26 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: Random Gen [snip] I suppose it's possible I'm just a dumb PVP noob, but to me the whole thing is just made to fail. It's not really any fun any more.
The fleets made from the militia channel are made to fail. Often literally. :) Try to find you a decent Amarr PvP corp and it becomes a lot more fun. There is a thread in the recruitment forum with a list a several corps that might work for ya.
If I could figure out how to turn off the militia channel I would, but it doesn't seem to want to let me.
And as for the caldari folks who showed up with 40 people. Why on earth would you want to fleet up with the other 60 people anyway? Are there big groups of mim roaming around somewhere I am missing, because about the biggest group I have run into lately was around 30 mims strong. I haven't seen any big groups since the first couple of days. Honestly with 40 people you probably coulda' taken a lot of territory for Caldari.
Anyway just my .02
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Tyrantus
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.06.26 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Khazeel
Originally by: Random Gen [snip] I suppose it's possible I'm just a dumb PVP noob, but to me the whole thing is just made to fail. It's not really any fun any more.
The fleets made from the militia channel are made to fail. Often literally. :)
Indeed. :) Nothing like taking a t1 fitted cheap ass cruiser blob out and goading the enemy to bring an even bigger blob to pwn us. Then the enemys members get all*****y and bring thier T2 ships and especially the faction/officer fitted T2 ships. These are then primaried and destroyed with much lulz in local at the killmails. So far its been working beautifully. ;-D Loyal Member Of The 24th Imperial |

Saint Hauler
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Posted - 2008.06.26 17:48:00 -
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Well - being in the Amarr militia with another account myself I can perfectly understand the Caldari not helping us - as others mentioned a band of a few TS-advertising FC's holds the militia tightly in their hands with their main interest being to draw lots of minions into their own freshly created FW corps, most of the time not accepting anyone not using TS and even worse lately, not even accepting 24 IC corp-members now - as if that would keep spies out.
Anyhow - anyone voicing their doubt about some of their tactics (like suggesting that putting ppl into free T1 frigs and encountering the bigger Minnie T2 Blob with the smaller Amarr T1 blob might not be such a great idea and suggesting the use of guerilla tactics deep behing the frontline instead) gets nothing but flames and smack talk.
That is what basically makes me wonder if I'm the only non-minnie agent in the whole militia.
Anyhow - the only thing keeping me in the militia atm is the fact that quitting it would make it look like I was giving in to the Minmatar - otherwise I would have joined with Caldari after things started forming as they are atm...
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Sarin Adler
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.26 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: Random Gen
I suppose it's possible I'm just a dumb PVP noob, but to me the whole thing is just made to fail. It's not really any fun any more.
With all that asshattery you describe I think the best advice would be to join CM right now, you will be fine with ev-voice there, hell even w/o it in some fleets.
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Quelque Chose
New Eden Roller Disco Supply
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Posted - 2008.06.26 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: Random Gen I can't use TS because the Mac client is buggy as hell (lolmacs, right?) and crashes constantly
You mean they actually finally made it? 
I had clanmates who were waiting on that thing for years, hope it gets better. ___________________________________________
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Grath Telkin
Evolving Paradigms
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Posted - 2008.06.26 22:42:00 -
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I've been relaying orders across EVE voice for a few days now, as well as TS use.
As we are aware (well, at least IM AWARE) that not all of the members can use TS, or Vent, and have been trying to convince members to join fleets again.
On a side note, its really awesome that you are all holding the entire militia up to the actions of 2 or 3 guys, thanks for the support.
Don't ever let it cross your mind that as more people join, more competent, or better FC's may step up. Heaven forbid.
Also, don't think that some users have as much trouble with EVE voice lagging out their CPU as others have with Teamspeak or Vent.
If your willing to criminalize the entire militia for the actions of 2 or 3 guys, thats cool, it just shows your willingness to be allies, and lets us know we really are on our own.
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