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Lochmar Fiendhiem
Wyverns of Dionysus Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.06.25 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: DHB WildCat
We use out of corp alts because of one simple fact.
Originally by: DHB WildCat
-We own several SUPER CAPITAL class ships, and all of our members are multi billion iskainers from pvp work only.
Obvious lie spotted!
Originally by: Halkin bob is dead, goons are great, cheese is cheesy, there we go no need for any more threads
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Seriya
Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.06.25 23:44:00 -
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Is the BE Debate a Mass Debate, or do you prefer to keep that to a small number of guys too?
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Guillame Herschel
The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.06.25 23:49:00 -
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What debate? There's a debate?
I've never been killed by BE. Never seen an officer spawn, either.
Quote: -Hold a positive K/D ratio against EVERY major alliance in this game!
Unless I'm mistaken, I got on a KM for one of your tackle alts when you visited Bruce in Fountain, so I guess I can make the same claim: Positive K/D ratio versus BE.
-- The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then --
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noc D
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Posted - 2008.06.25 23:49:00 -
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respect.
i always loved your concept, tactics and fitings. you guys create "burn eden raven" (while everybody saying 'raven sucks on pvp') fiting and pushed fiting concept. that made me think different on modules and setups.
good to hear some details from you.
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Spenz
Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.06.25 23:50:00 -
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Edited by: Spenz on 25/06/2008 23:55:18 Bah not worth it. |
Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.26 01:07:00 -
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Edited by: Sergeant Spot on 26/06/2008 01:08:02
Originally by: DHB WildCat
-Hold a positive K/D ratio against EVERY major alliance in this game!
If you don't hold and defend territory of your own, thats not a meaningful accomplishment.
Having said that, you are indeed a very successful roaming gang group, and very skilled at what you do, but you can't really compare your effectiveness to the major alliances unless you too hold and fight for your territory, at least not but such simple stats.
I realize that given your size, thats not really a wise or realistic option, but its still a valid point.
But there are options that would allow a direct comparison......
As you are a roaming gang group, if you really want to compare your self against the territory holding alliances, seek out THEIR roaming combat gangs, and engage them. This in no way suggests that you need to give up your other gankage, as its all part of the game, but such "roaming combat gang" vs "roaming combat gang" combat would allow better comparison. And I suspect you'd still do well at it.
Play nice while you butcher each other.
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Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
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Posted - 2008.06.26 01:35:00 -
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<3 DHB WildCat Me misses WC's CTA Me misses TI, I learned more about PvP in the month TOS was in that alliance than the rest of the 3 years I've been playing EVE.
Me Don't miss the 15 minute Cuss outs on TS. Way better ways to get the point across then using every variation of the "F" word in a single sentence.
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Originally by: Liang Nuren wrong forum isroy i am vjery drunm
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Tortun Nahme
Umbra Synergy Final Retribution Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.26 01:41:00 -
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the only thing I have against Burn Eden is DHB Wildcat
seriously, stop posting, the orange is bad, and your posts are generally rubbish
Originally by: Cecil Montague They should change that warning on entering low sec to:
"Go read Crime and Punishment for a few days then come back."
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An Anarchyyt
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.26 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tortun Nahme the only thing I have against Burn Eden is DHB Wildcat
seriously, stop posting, the orange is bad, and your posts are generally rubbish
I second this. God it is so awful. I don't care how 1337 you think you are because you're in Burn Eden. I don't care how amazing Burn Eden thinks they are.
And I agree with Spotty here, it's not that amazing when you're only attacking. You have no space to defend, and as thus only need to engage on your terms. How amazing!
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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NoobMan
Chump Rabbit
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Posted - 2008.06.26 02:24:00 -
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Top Ten Reasons Burn Eden are NOT COOL:
10. WE CLOAK SO WE WIN 9. WE CLOAK SO THAT THE RESPONSE TEAM CAN'T GET TO US, THEN WHEN THEY LEAVE AND NONATTENTIVE PILOTS COME THROUGH WE CLAIM VICTORY. 8. HAULERS AND RATTERS ARE REAL PVPERS AND SHOW OUR TRUE PVP STRENGTH. 7. OMG ANOTHER SUCCESFUL CAMPAIGN, WE CAN'T LOSE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SPACE TO DEFEND. 6. PEOPLE GET MAD BECAUSE WE ARE SO GOOD! 5. OUR LOSSES ARE ALL DUE TO ALCOHOL! 4. OUR KILLS SHOW THAT EVERYONE SUCKS, EXCEPT US! 3. OUR CORPORATION IS FULL OF 1337 WHO MAKE BILLIONS KILLING YOU! 2. THIS POST IS PROOF WE WIN!
And the number one reason:
1. WE POSTED IN GENERAL DISCUSSION TO GET MORE ATTENTION BECAUSE NO ONE IN CAOD TAKES US SERIOUSLY ANYMORE BUT THE NUBBITS MIGHT THINK WE ARE SO COOL!
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Haakelen
Force d'action navale
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Posted - 2008.06.26 02:25:00 -
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Edited by: Haakelen on 26/06/2008 02:25:30 I like how this thread is called 'The Burn Eden Debate' when nobody was discussing BE in this forum.
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Goremageddon Box
Soldiers Of Mercy
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Posted - 2008.06.26 02:28:00 -
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whats the point of this? _______________________ Hottest Character Ever. |
Jmanis Catharg
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.26 02:28:00 -
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I know of Burn Eden, I know their reputation, and regardless of whether or not it's true, I couldn't help but get the song "I'm waving my **** in the wind" out of my head...
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Steph Wing
Electro Fuels
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Posted - 2008.06.26 02:31:00 -
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Back when I was in BRUCE, BE gave me nothing short of relentless headaches for several weeks.
I hate you guys. But having said that, I also have tremendous respect. You fellas truly are the best at what you do. o7
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Lord Evangelian
The White Mantle
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Posted - 2008.06.26 02:41:00 -
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I use cloaks on my ships and encourage my co pilots to as well, people call my technique cowardly, but when you can sneak up on your prey and kill/ransom them then hide back into the shadows, My mission is complete. I dont always want to be seen.
I salute you
The White Mantle |
Sconitta
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.26 03:00:00 -
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i bet you dont like them titans jumping in and dd :P
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.06.26 03:10:00 -
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Originally by: Sconitta i bet you dont like them titans jumping in and dd :P
I have been DD 10 times by RA, -A-, BoB, and more. You get used to it. See a cyno warp out, dont even bother anymore.
WildCat
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Schani Kratnorr
x13
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Posted - 2008.06.26 03:21:00 -
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I liked the dual 100mn MWD ravens, but to be fair, burn eden did not invent them, nor were they the first to use them.
Burn eden did what no one else did. They took an idea, and elaborated. They asked themselves, "great, now what would happen if we had MORE of them? *mwuahahahahhahahha*"
The whole cloak-whine debate sickens me. If we didn't have cloaks, we would just regress and use countless alts in shuttles and noobships. We would all log off and back on again when our guy with the disposable alt sounded the all clear.
Now we can stay online, and keep doing whatever we have to do to pass the boredom between the all to few proper fights.
Also. someone wrote something about killboards and the way they display K:D ratios. You Sir are SO right! Killboards are evil man. They draw attention away from blowing stuff up, and force people to be really booring - like me, in my cloaked ship *bwahahahha*
Anywho, I should go to bed now. I am starting to ramble quite a bit...
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Clinically
ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.26 04:14:00 -
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BE? In my forum?
It's more likely than you think!
(<3 BE TBH) ________________
Originally by: Evil Thug I wear pink panties.
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Brakus
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.06.26 04:19:00 -
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Well now that it's over I disagree with the game mechanics that make it possible but I must say you are the best that I faced with in it.
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F'nog
Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.26 04:23:00 -
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Under Accomplishments you failed to note that you don't allow Fragm to post anymore, or that he's banned, doesn't play, isn't involved with the corp.
He was the single biggest setback you guys ever had. No matter how great an accomplishment you could have achieved, letting him post about made your corp a laughingstock.
But I give you props for still being active and sticking to your guns about the way you play. BE has always, save Fragm (and only because he liked to brag too much and has a huge ego), been honest and straightforward about how it plays the game and what it wants to do. That can't be said about many entities in the game.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
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Stuart Price
The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2008.06.26 04:42:00 -
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If it's a legitimate tactic allowed by the game then it's fair to use it.
If people have to resort to abuse/hate/flaming it's because they have no in-game comeback. It's therefore a compliment to being better at a particular part of the game than the person hurling the abuse.
Forums are public. People can post whatever they want within reasonable parameters. If you don't like it, make the response you are freely entitled to! Just bear in mind that people will judge YOU on that post in the same way you judge the posts of others.
Fame and reputation cannot be bought.
BE are where they are because they're very good at what they do. Love or hate them, that cannot really be denied. I was in a corp that got wardecced by BE a few years ago. The only tactic that worked for us was to hide and deny them targets because we were unable (through bad communication, lack of willing from most members and poor pvp leadership) to match them in the field. I learned a lot from that war (particularly about making ships spin round really fast in stations).
Teamwork, adaptation and commitment are everything in this game. "I got soul but I'm not a soldier" |
Italian Wedding
Soup Of The Day
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Posted - 2008.06.26 05:08:00 -
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Edited by: Italian Wedding on 26/06/2008 05:08:43 The Cloak Debate:
That's funny. You go into their system, they form up to defend, and then when you want to leave you can't cause of bubbles. So now you fit cloaks. I love when people go into other peoples home systems wanting to get some easy ganks and it goes horribly wrong because they form up and trap you in and then you complain about being blobed. Wah wah.
Alts:
Good for you. Grade A+++ tactic.
Misconceptions:
kk
Accomplishments:
Congrats.
Notes: Lose the "I need attention" attitude and the colored text that screams "I need attention".
I give you a C-. Could have been better.
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MineralOel Steuer
OP EC
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Posted - 2008.06.26 05:43:00 -
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BURN EDEN was the best Corp in Goonswarm!
seriously, actually I'm not very Impressed, as you just make "Contracts" against the weaker Alliances out there, like Hydra, BRUCE ect. which just shine in total player per Alliance, rather than skill, Organisation or Player vs Player Capability. Make Contracts against Band of Brothers, Red Alliance maybe Pandemic Legion and try to do the same damage to them. Still it's fun to watch your threads in CAOD, as they cause so much tears.
The only numbers I care about are 3-2-1-launch.. |
Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.26 06:38:00 -
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Originally by: MineralOel Steuer BURN EDEN was the best Corp in Goonswarm!
seriously, actually I'm not very Impressed, as you just make "Contracts" against the weaker Alliances out there, like Hydra, BRUCE ect. which just shine in total player per Alliance, rather than skill, Organisation or Player vs Player Capability. Make Contracts against Band of Brothers, Red Alliance maybe Pandemic Legion and try to do the same damage to them. Still it's fun to watch your threads in CAOD, as they cause so much tears.
Actually, its not hard at all to have positive Kill/Lose ratio against BoB or any other territory holding alliance.
How?
Don't hold territory, and only fly in a well organized gank group using the latest Eve mobile group tactics,.......
........which is exactly what BE does, and to give credit, they do it well. But their kill/Lose ratio is pretty meaningless unless they hold and defend territory of their own, or only count combat they have with other mobile gank groups.
Play nice while you butcher each other.
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Artemis Rose
Eleckrostatik
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Posted - 2008.06.26 07:02:00 -
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I have never seen or nor fought you guys at any point, but I will give you credit where its due.
Very good use of alternative tactics, and pretty inventive as well.
Adapting to the game done well. Good luck in all future adventures . __________________________________________________
Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine. WTB Purple Nerf Bat. |
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.06.26 07:03:00 -
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Blobbing alliances still calling using cloaks haxxoring, eh?
F them, don't listen to them, DHB Wildcat. It's all 0.0 up there, if they don't like it, tell them to gtfo.
Nothing worse than 0.0 blobbers (omg we spam alliance fleet invite in alliance chat we r so organized in our fleet) whining about anything.
Respect to BE. How about under accomplishments, "PvPing with ravens while everyone says caldari ships are noob pve boats. Inventing an entire style of pvp and perfecting it". I haven't observed BE in a long while but I have seen Evil Pookie and Satan around and those guys are always up to no good, lulz. --
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
The Maverick Navy Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.06.26 07:18:00 -
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IAC killboard is pretty good at giving a correct K/D ratio. If you lose a ship worth 100m fittings included, you have a score of -100.000.000. Now if you put together a 10 man gank to kill an enemy ship worth 100m, you get 100m/10 = 10.000.000 points. So you need to make 10 such kills with your gank squad to get back to even. ==================================================
I should really get a sig. |
Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker Frigateers
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Posted - 2008.06.26 07:38:00 -
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What is this like a BOB spinoff or something? Go back to your hole, CAOD. . Seeking frigateers!
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Lord WarATron
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.26 07:41:00 -
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Originally by: Goremageddon Box whats the point of this?
Just about every tactic BE uses has been nerfed. I remember the days of cloaking wcs 200km+ Jav torp, ew snipers that could 1-2 volley most cepters back then. IIRC they had a logoff dictor to drop bubble, since bubbles back then stopped scrambling when you logged off (lol). Either way, its was a ingenous tactic that eventually got every part of the scheme a nerf or fix. WCS nerf, Cloaking Nerf, Jav Torp vs small targets nerf etc etc. In the past, BE could shut down several thousand man carebear/blobber style alliances, though supercaps, POS jump bridges etc etc has made this harder for them to do so today.
Good or bad, they at least try something a bit more different from the usual "pile up 200 in blob and charge" tactic that is just too commonplace in eve. --
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