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Sunshine Katy
Patricia Lane Partners
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Posted - 2008.06.28 05:19:00 -
[1]
From http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/28/arts/television/28beve.html
(nice hat Molle)
For at least two years, the dominant conflict in the game has been between two alliances known as Band of Brothers and Goonswarm. Band of Brothers, known as BOB, is a wealthy, elite (some would say elitist) group that many players simultaneously admire, fear and despise. Goonswarm is a proudly profane group that conducts highly effective psychological warfare alongside its military campaigns. Like the members of BOB, Goons are also simultaneously admired, feared and despised by many Eve players.
Perhaps the most famous, powerful player in Eve is a character called SirMolle, leader of BOB. In real life he is Par Molen, a 41-year-old manager for a heating-and-cooling systems company in Sweden. Shortly after CCP, the company that makes Eve, convened its player council in Iceland, Mr. Molen welcomed more than 150 players from more than 15 countries to the annual weeklong BOB barbecue near Copenhagen.
At the barbecue Mr. Molen unveiled a new strategy called Max, for Maximum Damage. While most Eve campaigns center on taking and controlling regions of space, BOBÆs new Maximum Damage doctrine focuses on simply pillaging and destroying the territories of others.
ôOur goal is to control all of Eve,ö Mr. Molen said in an interview over an Internet voice chat program. ôItÆs totally impossible to claim all of Eve physically. But itÆs possible to control the people. ItÆs possible to control the alliances, be it by economic means or fighting means or political means. That was the goal and that is the goal.ö
Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company |

Viqtoria
Caldari Groping Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.06.28 05:23:00 -
[2]
his hat is better than TT's tbh :P
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Centauris
Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.28 05:28:00 -
[3]
He looks like a dirty old man tbh, oh wait
TC4LIFE |

Szprinkoth Sponsz
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.28 05:28:00 -
[4]
T H E K E Y
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Tzujeih
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.28 05:29:00 -
[5]
Moving goal post.
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Bertn Erney
The Fudge Packers Union
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Posted - 2008.06.28 05:32:00 -
[6]
Edited by: Bertn Erney on 28/06/2008 05:33:06 If we can't have it, we will blow it all up amirite?
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Tzujeih
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.28 05:36:00 -
[7]
BoB is far too careful to accomplish this anyways.
Might sound good at a BBQ pep rally tho.
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Attak
Trioptimum Violent-Tendencies
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Posted - 2008.06.28 05:41:00 -
[8]
I would like to congratulate BoB on this revolutionary new strategy of sending ships to your enemy's space to try and kill as many people as you can.
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TheAdj
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.28 05:53:00 -
[9]
That really is a halfassed article, that's pretty **** poor for the NYTimes. It just abruptly ends with no further explanation. Nice hat though. ----------------
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HitMeUp Ingame
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2008.06.28 05:53:00 -
[10]
Originally by: Attak I would like to congratulate BoB on this revolutionary new strategy of sending ships to your enemy's space to try and kill as many people as you can.
this
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Is forporn
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2008.06.28 05:55:00 -
[11]
Originally by: HitMeUp Ingame
Originally by: Attak I would like to congratulate BoB on this revolutionary new strategy of sending ships to your enemy's space to try and kill as many people as you can.
this
agreeing with this
Join THE INTERNET. today |

Forewen
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.06.28 05:58:00 -
[12]
i am guessing they learned this strategy from their own experience.
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Fabrice Enchante
Gallente Needles for Balloons
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Posted - 2008.06.28 06:08:00 -
[13]
I gotta say, regardless of the relative merits of Max, it is somewhat impressive to announce this in the New York Times. Not that the paper is the bastion of journalistic integrity it once was, but it seems that at least one of the writers is an Eve fan. That's the only way I can think of to explain this puff piece...
================<NEEDY>======================= POP goes the weasel. |

ScoRpS
0utbreak
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Posted - 2008.06.28 06:11:00 -
[14]
I realise Sir Molle must have submitted those details along with permission to publish them but it would frighten me to do so i think. I would be afraid because having all those real life details revealed in what should be an anonymous thing is bad, maybe i'm just paranoid. Just dont answer the door if a strange voice say's "pizza!!"
however congratulations are due for appearing in NYT, so very well done old boy. :)
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.28 06:33:00 -
[15]
my god, pvp genius itt
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Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.06.28 06:35:00 -
[16]
very cool, appearing in the New York Times for anything that won't make you criminally infamous is definitely a pretty decent accomplishment regardless of why.
And that is one awesome hat. --
Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
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Kyle Frost
Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.28 06:37:00 -
[17]
Yep, the hat rocks  ------
Let the gun do the talking... |

King Dave
Paper-Tiger
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Posted - 2008.06.28 06:38:00 -
[18]
Originally by: Szprinkoth Sponsz T H E K E Y
????
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Fesken Rans
The Order of Cistral
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Posted - 2008.06.28 06:40:00 -
[19]
Deff. proof SirMolle=TT
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hmmmmmmmm
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.28 07:00:00 -
[20]
COOL 
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Alexi Kalashnikov
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.28 07:06:00 -
[21]
Haven't you tried this before?
You know, and failed?
A few times?
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kublai
Caldari Art of War Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.06.28 07:07:00 -
[22]
I approve.
Methods of Torture - Latrocinium |

Lizhia
Gallente Victory Not Vengeance Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.06.28 07:13:00 -
[23]
Is this real? :o
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rValdez5987
Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment
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Posted - 2008.06.28 07:16:00 -
[24]
Sexy 
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Fizzarus Rakalk
Malkalen Callers
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Posted - 2008.06.28 07:18:00 -
[25]
I think this one goes into the history books... "Most creative way to Announce you next Plan of Attack"
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Toman Jerich
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.28 07:21:00 -
[26]
Edited by: Toman Jerich on 28/06/2008 07:22:45 Okay. So they're going to use glass-cannon BS to take down cynojammers then bring in 150 cap ships to one-cycle all the towers in a system, ****-sock it for two days so as to completely dominate the system the whole time, blow up all the POS, then leave. Or you can pay them a tribute of 10 bil/month or whatever for them to leave you alone.
This sounds a great way to never shoot another spaceship again.
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Angelonico
Series of Tubes
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Posted - 2008.06.28 07:27:00 -
[27]
Control all of eve. Control alliances. Blah blah blah.
Where in the interview does it discuss you hiding behind cynojammers and 7 titans logged in 23/7?
I wouldn't bring this up if you were so consistently arrogant. Youw ant to control eve when you held off goons with, while admittedly arguable, an exploit. Call it a troll if you want, but it's the truth - and your hubris is astounding.
Try it again and I'll be the first one on the bandwagon to smack you the **** down. Your arrogance cost you most of your space once, I'dve figured such a leet alliance as yours would learn from your mistakes.
Apparently not.
Laughable.
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Devian 666
Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.28 07:39:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Angelonico Control all of eve. Control alliances. Blah blah blah.
Where in the interview does it discuss you hiding behind cynojammers and 7 titans logged in 23/7?
I wouldn't bring this up if you were so consistently arrogant. Youw ant to control eve when you held off goons with, while admittedly arguable, an exploit. Call it a troll if you want, but it's the truth - and your hubris is astounding.
Try it again and I'll be the first one on the bandwagon to smack you the **** down. Your arrogance cost you most of your space once, I'dve figured such a leet alliance as yours would learn from your mistakes.
Apparently not.
Laughable.
I think you've missed a vital point in the article. SirMolle's hat is better than my leopard print safari hat.
Originally by: Darkrydar Oh and killboard loss arguments are so 2005.
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Kyrie Elaison
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.06.28 07:39:00 -
[29]
Sounds like POS wars without dropping towers. Just join Jihadswarm you unimaginative twits. Arghy is the one true God and Dungar is His prophet. |

INZi
coracao ardente The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:01:00 -
[30]
attetion wh*re mr.molle. next time you might as well take part in "you think you can dance" or maybe "idol 2009" idk. get a life man _
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:06:00 -
[31]
~~nOw FrEe ToO WoLfPaCk RoAm~~
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:13:00 -
[32]
.....also nice hat
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Cathojen
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:15:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Angelonico Control all of eve. Control alliances. Blah blah blah.
Where in the interview does it discuss you hiding behind cynojammers and 7 titans logged in 23/7?
I wouldn't bring this up if you were so consistently arrogant. Youw ant to control eve when you held off goons with, while admittedly arguable, an exploit. Call it a troll if you want, but it's the truth - and your hubris is astounding.
Try it again and I'll be the first one on the bandwagon to smack you the **** down. Your arrogance cost you most of your space once, I'dve figured such a leet alliance as yours would learn from your mistakes.
Apparently not.
Laughable.
You need to calm down permanantly.
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Angelonico
Series of Tubes
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:17:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Cathojen
Originally by: Angelonico Control all of eve. Control alliances. Blah blah blah.
Where in the interview does it discuss you hiding behind cynojammers and 7 titans logged in 23/7?
I wouldn't bring this up if you were so consistently arrogant. Youw ant to control eve when you held off goons with, while admittedly arguable, an exploit. Call it a troll if you want, but it's the truth - and your hubris is astounding.
Try it again and I'll be the first one on the bandwagon to smack you the **** down. Your arrogance cost you most of your space once, I'dve figured such a leet alliance as yours would learn from your mistakes.
Apparently not.
Laughable.
You need to calm down permanantly.
Not really. I'm quite calm until they actually try to back up what they've proposed - then you might find me in goons again... smacking them down. Again.
I'm tired of their chest beating unfunny arrogance. It's the lamest thing in eve.
Also, do a barrel roll.
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clagnuts
Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:19:00 -
[35]
i cant take this serious when the host of the party looks like a *** cowboy from brokeback mountain ,
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:20:00 -
[36]
Originally by: clagnuts i cant take this serious when the host of the party looks like a *** cowboy from brokeback mountain ,
I was about to say that stop stealing words from my mind you fuggen wizard
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:26:00 -
[37]
I think this is relevent to this topic somehow
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Xrak
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:26:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Angelonico
Not really. I'm quite calm until they actually try to back up what they've proposed - then you might find me in goons again... smacking them down. Again.
I'm tired of their chest beating unfunny arrogance. It's the lamest thing in eve.
Also, do a barrel roll.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*breath*
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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Cathojen
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:28:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Angelonico Not really. I'm quite calm until they actually try to back up what they've proposed - then you might find me in goons again... smacking them down. Again.
I'm tired of their chest beating unfunny arrogance. It's the lamest thing in eve.
Also, do a barrel roll.
Good Lord, that's just what we need. Another hyperactive pubbie trying to fit in with Goons.
PS. You never smacked around BOB in the first place. The Coalition got spanked in Delve in fleet battles for 2 solid months before you ever got a faceful of titan. Feel free to lie to the contrary if that's how you get your jollies. Gratz on reducing their space though.
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Slatka Radodajka
Gallente Zagorska tajna sluzba za ispitivanje kakvoce VINA
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:29:00 -
[40]
Look at this bitter cryalition posts.
Hahahahahaha.Dont be afaraid Cryalition.You will have your space.But nothing in it.
Hahaha i love your tears.Hahaha.
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Angelonico
Series of Tubes
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:31:00 -
[41]
Edited by: Angelonico on 28/06/2008 08:32:34 Goons for me was a means to andend - the end being bob humiliated, crouched in their own space. Their allies gone due to molle's egomania and utter incompetence. I had a blast kicking their ass for the better part of a year straight. Fit in? I never did. Ask goons themselves, but I got to kill bob****gots everyday. That was all I needed and I was quite good at it.
I might be a huge****got - in fact I'm pretty sure I am. But I'm nothing compared to them. I stand in AWE of their ghey.
Try that **** again and you'll get smacked down again. Just sayin.
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Slatka Radodajka
Gallente Zagorska tajna sluzba za ispitivanje kakvoce VINA
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:32:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Cathojen
Originally by: Angelonico Not really. I'm quite calm until they actually try to back up what they've proposed - then you might find me in goons again... smacking them down. Again.
I'm tired of their chest beating unfunny arrogance. It's the lamest thing in eve.
Also, do a barrel roll.
Good Lord, that's just what we need. Another hyperactive pubbie trying to fit in with Goons.
PS. You never smacked around BOB in the first place. The Coalition got spanked in Delve in fleet battles for 2 solid months before you ever got a faceful of titan. Feel free to lie to the contrary if that's how you get your jollies. Gratz on reducing their space though.
You dont get Angelonico.He is just one bitter eve player.He fails in aliance warfare.He now fails in FW with his Ammar ***friends.Ofc he also fails in bitternes.
Pure faile.Hahahaha.But still i love his tears.
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Tzujeih
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:32:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Angelonico Not really. I'm quite calm until they actually try to back up what they've proposed - then you might find me in goons again... smacking them down. Again.
no
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Cathojen
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:33:00 -
[44]
They seem pretty strong to me, even if they did lose some renters.
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Angelonico
Series of Tubes
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:34:00 -
[45]
Edited by: Angelonico on 28/06/2008 08:35:36 Edited by: Angelonico on 28/06/2008 08:34:16
Originally by: Tzujeih
Originally by: Angelonico Not really. I'm quite calm until they actually try to back up what they've proposed - then you might find me in goons again... smacking them down. Again.
no
Your name Darius? Nah, you're just another one hiding behind an alt. Feel free to flame me with your main. That you vio? Perhaps a mittani alt. It doesn't really matter.
Originally by: Slatka Radodajka Good Lord, that's just what we need. Another hyperactive pubbie trying to fit in with Goons.
PS. You never smacked around BOB in the first place. The Coalition got spanked in Delve in fleet battles for 2 solid months before you ever got a faceful of titan. Feel free to lie to the contrary if that's how you get your jollies. Gratz on reducing their space though.
You dont get Angelonico.He is just one bitter eve player.He fails in aliance warfare.He now fails in FW with his Ammar ***friends.Ofc he also fails in bitternes.
Pure faile.Hahahaha.But still i love his tears.
I'm actually having a blast with FW, you should try it. Hit me up in game. I also better duck out of this thread before the goons smell blood. o/
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Tzujeih
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:35:00 -
[46]
oh god stop posting
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Angelonico
Series of Tubes
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:36:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Tzujeih oh god stop posting
No. You.
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MineralOel Steuer
Amarr OP EC
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:37:00 -
[48]
Molle is one sexy Swedish Cowboy, lets call him Revolver Molle.
The only numbers I care about are 3-2-1-launch.. |

Xrak
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:37:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Tzujeih oh god stop posting
Seriously, when I'm agreeing with the goon, you know it's bad.
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Slatka Radodajka
Gallente Zagorska tajna sluzba za ispitivanje kakvoce VINA
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:38:00 -
[50]
Good boy.Now run to ze hills.Ze goons are coming!!!
I hope you have fun in FW cause that is why we play this game.FUN!!!We dont need to be bitter if we lose sometime like you do ocasionaly.Yo know sometimes you lose,sometime you win.
I will pray to Ammar gods for your wins in FW cause you bitternes is scaring me.
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Angelonico
Series of Tubes
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:39:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Slatka Radodajka Good boy.Now run to ze hills.Ze goons are coming!!!
I hope you have fun in FW cause that is why we play this game.FUN!!!We dont need to be bitter if we lose sometime like you do ocasionaly.Yo know sometimes you lose,sometime you win.
I will pray to Ammar gods for your wins in FW cause you bitternes is scaring me.
Everyone but bob to afraid to post with their mains?
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Slatka Radodajka
Gallente Zagorska tajna sluzba za ispitivanje kakvoce VINA
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:43:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Angelonico Edited by: Angelonico on 28/06/2008 08:36:59 Look at dem goonies doing what they do best. Still miss'm, even if they have a case of ghey.
Some pretty good trolling here, but your opinions didn't matter to me then and they don't know. Killing bob was my end as I've said, and you were my means.
Uh that was fast editing of your post.....
Quote: I'm actually having a blast with FW, you should try it. Hit me up in game. I also better duck out of this thread before the goons smell blood. o/
You said this and some other ****s.Darius in my pants and stuff.I mean your pants
Dont be so sad.You will win...Maybe...EVE....Hahaha
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Slatka Radodajka
Gallente Zagorska tajna sluzba za ispitivanje kakvoce VINA
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:44:00 -
[53]
Edited by: Slatka Radodajka on 28/06/2008 08:44:51
Originally by: Angelonico
Originally by: Slatka Radodajka Good boy.Now run to ze hills.Ze goons are coming!!!
I hope you have fun in FW cause that is why we play this game.FUN!!!We dont need to be bitter if we lose sometime like you do ocasionaly.Yo know sometimes you lose,sometime you win.
I will pray to Ammar gods for your wins in FW cause you bitternes is scaring me.
Everyone but bob to afraid to post with their mains?
My main have ban.You can hit me up in game and i can tell you who is my main.You will se i am not bob.You will see you fail again P.S. i fail at quoting :(
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Angelonico
Series of Tubes
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:45:00 -
[54]
Edited by: Angelonico on 28/06/2008 08:45:21
Originally by: Slatka Radodajka Stuff
I'm drunk and it's late. I'll get back to you tommorow. 
Eve is about having fun and I've always had a good deal of it.
See you tommorow CAOD.
Edit - I suck at quoting too, hi5.
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El'Niaga
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:49:00 -
[55]
You know isn't it against the rules to post folks real names on these forums.....seems I remember that from all the t20 stuff....
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Slatka Radodajka
Gallente Zagorska tajna sluzba za ispitivanje kakvoce VINA
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:49:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Angelonico Edited by: Angelonico on 28/06/2008 08:45:21
Originally by: Slatka Radodajka Stuff
I'm drunk and it's late. I'll get back to you tommorow. 
Eve is about having fun and I've always had a good deal of it.
See you tommorow CAOD.
Edit - I suck at quoting too, hi5.
Hi5 see ya tommorow :D:D:D
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enjoi
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:59:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Angelonico Edited by: Angelonico on 28/06/2008 08:45:21
I'm drunk and it's late. I'll get back to you tommorow. 
Eve is about having fun and I've always had a good deal of it.
See you tommorow CAOD.
Edit - I suck at quoting too, hi5.
You're just awful at forums, on behalf of CAOD I hereby cancel all your future appointments in said venue. - Real men structure tank. |

Waagaa Ktlehr
Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.28 09:03:00 -
[58]
Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 28/06/2008 09:03:44 And so it starts, looking at the posts in this topic, the control aspect is already firmly doing its job. -
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Mexbrutor
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Posted - 2008.06.28 09:13:00 -
[59]
PINK HAT!! OMFG
Who knew Molle was ***. |

Lowa
Gallente North Star Networks Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.06.28 09:21:00 -
[60]
New York Times announcements is the new Buffy banner. C/D? 
But I wasnt honestly expecting a disclosure of what the "new" strategy would be, has to be a first?
/Lowa
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darkin here
Is Usually Right
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Posted - 2008.06.28 09:45:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Cathojen They seem pretty strong to me, even if they did lose some renters.
Just wait til they get the T3 BPO "prerelease"
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ImMeGaLoN
Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.28 09:52:00 -
[62]
I want that hat. Plz Molle.  _____________________________________________________________________ I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass...and I'm all out of bubblegum. |

Shikome Alluin
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.06.28 10:02:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Centauris He looks like a dirty old man tbh, oh wait
He looks like "Max Hardcore" in that hat.
Ohh wait...
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Omeega
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.28 10:16:00 -
[64]
So should we expect the total removal of POS mechanics in the next patch or something?
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Rod Blaine
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.28 10:22:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Omeega So should we expect the total removal of POS mechanics in the next patch or something?
/prays [center] Old blog |

Kay Han
Caldari Stardust Heavy Industries Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2008.06.28 10:30:00 -
[66]
Awesome Hat... rly...   
as for the "max" part in the op... lets see 
Originally by: CCP Atropos Personally I think Amarr ships should consume slaves in a similar way that other ships consume ammunition.
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.28 10:38:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 28/06/2008 09:03:44 And so it starts, looking at the posts in this topic, the control aspect is already firmly doing its job.
If # of forum posts ==== power, then you've got a long way to catch up with us  -clp
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Kraknall
Minmatar Eve's Brothers of Destiny FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.06.28 10:55:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Cathojen They seem pretty strong to me, even if they did lose some renters.
...and the overwhelming bulk of their space, as well as any semblance of "invulnerability" they may have once had.
BoB used to be seen by most of EVE as the summum of badazz; now they're just another loud-mouthed windbag alliance with an attitude. Shoot them enough, and they retreat.
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Swamp Ziro
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.28 11:02:00 -
[69]
We control your game now~~ Sig locked, please mail [email protected] with a new sig to be considered for use - Mitnal.
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Ria Sotori
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.28 11:05:00 -
[70]
All I have to say is:
Pink Furry Pimp Hat + BBQ Chicken = WIN
So keep crying a river and emoraging guys 
Black Nova Corp PMS Ganksquad 3-1 Odds are the only way Bufoonswarm will fight and they still lose and blame you. |

Shirei
Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.28 11:06:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Ria Sotori All I have to say is:
Pink Furry Pimp Hat + BBQ Chicken = WIN
So keep crying a river and emoraging guys 
Can't see anyone either crying rivers or emoraging, but maybe you're imagining things again. 
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OldPueblo
DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.28 11:06:00 -
[72]
Ah so that's what BoB calls what we've been doing already.
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EzSnake
Macabre Votum Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.06.28 11:10:00 -
[73]
best hat yet!!!! props molle ____________________________________
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sakana
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.28 11:11:00 -
[74]
Originally by: TheAdj That really is a halfassed article, that's pretty **** poor for the NYTimes. It just abruptly ends with no further explanation. Nice hat though.
Thats what I was thinking.
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sakana
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.28 11:15:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Gneeznow I think this is relevent to this topic somehow
            
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Raging Knight
Judgement.
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Posted - 2008.06.28 11:43:00 -
[76]
Damn, thats some big steaks on that BBQ, remind me to come next time
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.06.28 12:01:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Attak I would like to congratulate BoB on this revolutionary new strategy of sending ships to your enemy's space to try and kill as many people as you can.
Now This is funny
SKUNK |

Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.28 12:04:00 -
[78]
Originally by: OldPueblo Ah so that's what BoB calls what we've been doing already.
Aww, bless.
Who knew delusions of competence could be so cute? Who knew? |

Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.28 12:09:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Angelonico Where in the interview does it discuss you hiding behind cynojammers and 7 titans logged in 23/7?
I wouldn't bring this up if you were so consistently arrogant. Youw ant to control eve when you held off goons with, while admittedly arguable, an exploit.
Surely the exploit must have been getting a Titan into a permanently cyno-jammed system (with 7 ouf our Titans guarding it), and losing it there.
Or maybe you are being a little inaccurate in your summary?
Eve-Online: The Text Adventure |

Schani Kratnorr
x13
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Posted - 2008.06.28 12:14:00 -
[80]
Somewhat brief article, but then again, most people wont be able to read more than a few paragraphs about an online game 
I must say I would quite like BoB if the manage to shift focus away from the conventional. Exactly how and hwoare unknowns.
Interestingly enough, there are a lot of players as well as goons sounding very bitter about the whole thing.
I for one would welcome a change of the overall strategy of 0.0 alliances. Perhaps those who also enjoy the game feel the same. I like an opponent that tries new things. If old ideas arent working or stop being as fun as they used to be, try something new.
I kind of feel sad for those who are stuck. The whole "they cheat"-debacle is getting old, as are the titan-related complaints. But this is CAOD and a degree of amateur-putdowns must be expected I guess 
At least this post gave me a reason to temporarily turn off my forum filtering. Just long enough to realize that Goons are as big, if not bigger failures than BoB.
BoB wants to own all of 0.0 - an admirable and somewhat overly ambitious goal. Goons want to, well I dont really know, but one thing they used to want was BoB dead.
Both alliances have "failed" to some degree, but I dont see Goons getting their meta-game smackdown delivered via the New York Times. 
p.s. nice hat, you look like a cowboypimp
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Twoside
Gallente 7 reloaded
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Posted - 2008.06.28 12:39:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Schani Kratnorr
Both alliances have "failed" to some degree, but I dont see Goons getting their meta-game smackdown delivered via the New York Times. 
Originally by: Sunshine Katy From http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/28/arts/television/28beve.html Goonswarm is a proudly profane group that conducts highly effective psychological warfare alongside its military campaigns. Like the members of BOB, Goons are also simultaneously admired, feared and despised by many Eve players.
You still can't read very well Schani, not much has changed :P |

Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2008.06.28 13:12:00 -
[82]
Heh, who'd have thought back in 2003 that the mark of having "arrived" as an Eve player was getting a quote in the New York Times eh? Strange world we live in 
CSM Manifesto 2008 | Destroy Outposts! |

Machingo
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.28 13:18:00 -
[83]
Molle looks really old for 41. |

VinkNut
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.28 13:21:00 -
[84]
Who cares what people look like, and at the end of the day I've seen the collection of SA members on youtube. I say no more! |

Schani Kratnorr
x13
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Posted - 2008.06.28 13:21:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Twoside
Originally by: Schani Kratnorr
Both alliances have "failed" to some degree, but I dont see Goons getting their meta-game smackdown delivered via the New York Times. 
Originally by: Sunshine Katy From http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/28/arts/television/28beve.html Goonswarm is a proudly profane group that conducts highly effective psychological warfare alongside its military campaigns. Like the members of BOB, Goons are also simultaneously admired, feared and despised by many Eve players.
You still can't read very well Schani, not much has changed :P
I read quite well TwoSide, considering English is not my main language that is. As you may remember, selective reading is a Rah! skill.
That article was 98% BoB and 2% goons. Any PR-consultant would agree that BoB got their message across, while goons merely managed to get a piggy-back-mention.
My point was that a few people are stuck in the past. Both in terms of what they want and expect from the game, but also in the way they continually bring up past transgressions.
Also, I am way cool and that entitles me to have a lofty attitude towards all the non-Gemeni people.  |

An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.28 13:22:00 -
[86]
Originally by: sakana
Originally by: TheAdj That really is a halfassed article, that's pretty **** poor for the NYTimes. It just abruptly ends with no further explanation. Nice hat though.
Thats what I was thinking.
I haven't seen it in print yet, but I am assuming that it was a companion piece to go with the CSM article, and that is why it is rather abrupt. |

Machingo
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.28 13:29:00 -
[87]
Originally by: VinkNut Who cares what people look like, and at the end of the day I've seen the collection of SA members on youtube. I say no more!
ok |

FireAnt
Caldari Wings of the Storm
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Posted - 2008.06.28 13:38:00 -
[88]
Edited by: FireAnt on 28/06/2008 13:43:33 angelonico, just looking at the bob killboard and honestly i am not impressed
with your bob killing stats at all. i mean you fought bob for
you say 2 years and all you got was 72 kills? wow bob must be
reeling after those type losses. trust me, most people heard
your gang leading skills on ts, what isnt in the equation is how
many gangs you got butchered. go scream and cuss on ts some
more. there is a reason you are being flamed by goon in this thread. |

Shirei
Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.28 13:40:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Schani Kratnorr I for one would welcome a change of the overall strategy of 0.0 alliances. Perhaps those who also enjoy the game feel the same. I like an opponent that tries new things. If old ideas arent working or stop being as fun as they used to be, try something new.
Thing is, the shift away from trying to hold many stations has already occurred to a large extent. Before, the focus was on owning many stations, renting them out to others and so on, which BoB have done to a larger extent than most.
Now, most alliances tend to see holding many stations and large swathes of territory themselves as more of a nuisance rather than something to aspire to - with the focus switching towards who is controlling the moons rather than who is holding the stations/territory.
In an accessible region like say ... Fountain... not bothering with stations much is in fact a very sensible solution. In an inaccessible region far into 0.0 much less so.
Soo.. if just going around capping moons and ganking caps without bothering with stations is what they're trying to sell as their drastic new idea, they're about half a year late.. if it's something else, we'll see. |

BangerX
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Posted - 2008.06.28 13:47:00 -
[90]
OMG - That sounds just like our super secret strategy.. I knew we should have named it something cooler like MAX...
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.28 14:04:00 -
[91]
Congratulations BoB, on your new career of being fake Goons. I wish you many successes, as I'm sure you'll do as good at this as you did at holding eight regio...oh wait.
Coming in August, all BoBbits continue to innovate by spamming "fofofofofofo" in local, call each other brosefs, and drink Mojitos. When they lose fights, they say "welp" and ride bikes. -- "PT, you are a complete and total jerk."
Yes. Yes I am.
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Lowa
Gallente North Star Networks Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.06.28 14:06:00 -
[92]
It just hit me, that hat... Ragnars Magic Hat T2? If so, this should get interesting and produce lots of dead things along with hefty amount of drama.
Excellent!
/Lowa
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papaPadla
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.28 14:29:00 -
[93]
oh god... 4 pages just on the anouncement... imagine the threads when we actually get to kill sumthin |

Shirei
Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.28 14:34:00 -
[94]
Originally by: papaPadla oh god... 4 pages just on the anouncement... imagine the threads when we actually get to kill sumthin
To be honest, the number of views/replies isn't that much better than 'Quam lose 6 carriers' posted just a few hours earlier.  |

Lord Drax
Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.28 14:44:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Angelonico Edited by: Angelonico on 28/06/2008 08:43:43 Goons for me was a means to an end - the end being bob humiliated, crouched in their own space. Their allies gone due to molle's egomania and utter incompetence. I had a blast kicking their ass for the better part of a year straight. Fit in? I never did. Ask goons themselves, but I got to kill bob****gots everyday. That was all I needed and I was quite good at it.
I might be a huge****got - in fact I'm pretty sure I am. But I'm nothing compared to them. I stand in AWE of their ghey.
Try that **** again and you'll get smacked down again. Just sayin.
You were only 1 line away from a full blown paddy there.
It's nice that we mean so much to you.
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Moonlight Express
Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.28 14:48:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Alexi Kalashnikov Haven't you tried this before?
You know, and failed?
A few times?
Yup. BoB is dead. Goons dine in NOL and live in Delve. Oh, wait... Is this goons failure you are talking about?
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Murtala
Mushin Market
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Posted - 2008.06.28 14:49:00 -
[97]
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee |

Zhaine
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2008.06.28 15:03:00 -
[98]
itt bitter goons |

Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.06.28 15:04:00 -
[99]
pvp p0rn |

Iva Soreass
Personal Vendetta Vendetta Alliance.
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Posted - 2008.06.28 15:16:00 -
[100]
Look at all the failswarm in this thread, go fail more please.
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papaPadla
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.28 15:38:00 -
[101]
Originally by: FireAnt Edited by: FireAnt on 28/06/2008 13:43:33 angelonico, just looking at the bob killboard and honestly i am not impressed with your bob killing stats at all. i mean you fought bob for you say 2 years and all you got was 72 kills? wow bob must be reeling after those type losses. trust me, most people heard your gang leading skills on ts, what isnt in the equation is how many gangs you got butchered. go scream and cuss on ts some more. there is a reason you are being flamed by goon in this thread.
well in he's defence he's only showing those kills for the last year. and he might have a hauling alt that also got some kills .. accounting for the second year he's boosting and the other 1000 bob kills.
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Jim Lovell
Gallente Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.06.28 15:38:00 -
[102]
oh god we are gonna take over the whole galaxy and make you pay to use the urinals! what bs you keep trying and im ****ing for free right now 
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Killer Kelly
Allied Tactical Unit Scalar Federation
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Posted - 2008.06.28 15:58:00 -
[103]
Europeans  ___________ I Get Money in the Scalar Federation |

Mazca Lopez
V i r u s
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Posted - 2008.06.28 16:06:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Heh, who'd have thought back in 2003 that the mark of having "arrived" as an Eve player was getting a quote in the New York Times eh? Strange world we live in 
And even though you came in at a close secone, Goonswarm are still the only ones being mentioned in two articles in the N.Y Times on the same day...
28/6 08 shall from here on and forevermore be known as Goonday  
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rValdez5987
Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment
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Posted - 2008.06.28 16:10:00 -
[105]
Quote: Not really. I'm quite calm until they actually try to back up what they've proposed - then you might find me in goons again... smacking them down. Again.
I'm tired of their chest beating unfunny arrogance. It's the lamest thing in eve.
Also, do a barrel roll.
Its so funny angelonico how politics aside we arent much different.
I've never fought for the coalition though... I enjoy being outnumbered.
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Mitstanki Probate
Amarr Goonfleet Spin and Lotion Club
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Posted - 2008.06.28 16:24:00 -
[106]
Hai Guyz!!!
It's ok, Goons Got Mentioned as the second fiddle in that article and as one of the many CSM members in the other so that way trumps being the focal point of an article about bbq fun and alcohol!!
6/28 shall forever be known as "Look at me pls!!! Im a GOON day" mark it down.
Fantastic hat btw Molle.
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Mazca Lopez
V i r u s
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Posted - 2008.06.28 16:36:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Mitstanki Probate Hai Guyz!!!
It's ok, Goons Got Mentioned as the second fiddle in that article and as one of the many CSM members in the other so that way trumps being the focal point of an article about bbq fun and alcohol!!
6/28 shall forever be known as "Look at me pls!!! Im a GOON day" mark it down.
Fantastic hat btw Molle.
It warms me to see an alt so fiersly stand up for Molles E-honor.
I'm sure He'll appreciate it. I shall under the pressure withdraw my suggestion and instead suggest that the 28/6 will be known as "no commedy act shall rob Molle of his light day"
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Jack Archer
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.28 16:42:00 -
[108]
bitter bob alts itt --- Booya. |

teh punisher
Noob Mercs
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Posted - 2008.06.28 16:44:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Tzujeih Moving goal post.
hey how's dining in nol going for you?
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.28 16:45:00 -
[110]
better than removing goons for them, i can tell you -clp
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Mitstanki Probate
Amarr Goonfleet Spin and Lotion Club
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Posted - 2008.06.28 17:00:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Jack Archer I see Bob alts everywhere please hold me
awww brosef you wound me. I'm a legitimate jita businessman who's only affiliation with bob is selling our wonderful lotion products to finfleet.
I know they didn't teach this in goon school (at least I didn't learn it there) but I'll help ya out here. Ya see my post was about bbq and beer > than boring blah blah about a committee sitting around proposing changes that more than likely mostly get ignored.
Now if your hating on the hat then your just wound to tight..... ride a bike for awhile you'll feel better I promise.
** PROBATE LOTION - 9 out of 10 pod pilots agree its the best to prevent pod chafe! ** 
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K'reemy G'udness
Gallente The Greater Goon GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.28 17:11:00 -
[112]
Congrats Molle on another successful BBQ, and I agree that you have fine taste in headwear. Good luck in your MAX campaign, and respect to youse for the good times in Delve, until it got boring.
Keep fixing those HVACs! ------- This is not a signature. |

NerftheSmurf
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.28 17:14:00 -
[113]
clicked on link about the new york times, left disappointed it's a thread about an irrelevant alliance
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Narciss Sevar
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.28 17:41:00 -
[114]
:puppetmaster: I'm controlling your game!
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mynnna
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.28 17:45:00 -
[115]
Originally by: papaPadla oh god... 4 pages just on the anouncement... imagine the threads when we actually get to kill sumthin
LOOK AT ALL THESE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT US, CLEARLY OUR STRATEGY IS SUCCEEDING AND WE ARE CONTROLLING THEIR GAME!
    
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Conq Er
Sweetrock Mining
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Posted - 2008.06.28 18:30:00 -
[116]
Grey ball hair. 
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Wesley Baird
D00M. The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.06.28 18:37:00 -
[117]
Originally by: papaPadla oh god... 4 pages just on the anouncement... imagine the threads when we actually get to kill sumthin
So when are you actually going to implement "Max"???
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General Windypops
Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2008.06.28 18:40:00 -
[118]
Wow, this one's really got Goonies riled. Don't worry fellas, just because BoB do things bigger and better than you doesn't mean you can't start up your own pale imitation. I dunno, maybe you can all get together for a big game of twister with fondue somewhere in Croydon or something?
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Raging Knight
Judgement.
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Posted - 2008.06.28 18:46:00 -
[119]
Originally by: General Windypops Wow, this one's really got Goonies riled. Don't worry fellas, just because BoB do things bigger and better than you doesn't mean you can't start up your own pale imitation. I dunno, maybe you can all get together for a big game of twister with fondue somewhere in Croydon or something?
Croydon?... ahh yeah croydon that friendly place. Goons will fit right in
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Sunshine Katy
Patricia Lane Partners
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Posted - 2008.06.28 18:51:00 -
[120]
Originally by: An Anarchyyt
I haven't seen it in print yet, but I am assuming that it was a companion piece to go with the CSM article, and that is why it is rather abrupt.
This. Darius Johnson has a big quote in the main story (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/28/arts/television/28eve.html) and Bane Glorious has his picture splashed across the top of the NY Times Arts section today. |

General Windypops
Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2008.06.28 18:54:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Raging Knight
Originally by: General Windypops Wow, this one's really got Goonies riled. Don't worry fellas, just because BoB do things bigger and better than you doesn't mean you can't start up your own pale imitation. I dunno, maybe you can all get together for a big game of twister with fondue somewhere in Croydon or something?
Croydon?... ahh yeah croydon that friendly place. Goons will fit right in
Either that or they could take a trip up to Pembrokeshire. Just because they failed to dine in NOL doesn't mean they can't go to the McDonalds in Nolton. They could all wear cowboy hats and call it Pembrokeback Mountain 2008.
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Terror Rising
Death Of Fallen Angels
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Posted - 2008.06.28 19:16:00 -
[122]
Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: Raging Knight
Originally by: General Windypops Wow, this one's really got Goonies riled. Don't worry fellas, just because BoB do things bigger and better than you doesn't mean you can't start up your own pale imitation. I dunno, maybe you can all get together for a big game of twister with fondue somewhere in Croydon or something?
Croydon?... ahh yeah croydon that friendly place. Goons will fit right in
Either that or they could take a trip up to Pembrokeshire. Just because they failed to dine in NOL doesn't mean they can't go to the McDonalds in Nolton. They could all wear cowboy hats and call it Pembrokeback Mountain 2008.
Famous McDonalds that, big sign on the roundabout and everything .. |

Zagum Darkfin
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.28 19:16:00 -
[123]
This thread delivers!!  |

enjoi
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.28 19:29:00 -
[124]
You know your leader is awesome when he can wear a pink hat and generate a multi-page thread. |

Cosmo Raata
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.28 19:30:00 -
[125]
Originally by: K'reemy G'udness Congrats Molle on another successful BBQ, and I agree that you have fine taste in headwear. Good luck in your MAX campaign, and respect to youse for the good times in Delve, until it got boring.
Keep fixing those HVACs!
Who let this goon post??
* No sarcasm detected * Actual compliments from goon to bob * The word Respect used
WTF    |

General Windypops
Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2008.06.28 19:32:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Terror Rising[[quote=General WindypopsEither that or they could take a trip up to Pembrokeshire. Just because they failed to dine in NOL doesn't mean they can't go to the McDonalds in Nolton. They could all wear cowboy hats and call it Pembrokeback Mountain 2008. [/quote
Famous McDonalds that, big sign on the roundabout and everything ..
Well if they do Happy Meals then I think we have found them the perfect venue.
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Jack Archer
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.28 19:35:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Cosmo Raata
* No sarcasm detected
haha |

Kyrie Elaison
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.06.28 19:36:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Cosmo Raata
Originally by: K'reemy G'udness Congrats Molle on another successful BBQ, and I agree that you have fine taste in headwear. Good luck in your MAX campaign, and respect to youse for the good times in Delve, until it got boring.
Keep fixing those HVACs!
Who let this goon post??
* No sarcasm detected * Actual compliments from goon to bob * The word Respect used
WTF   
Look how dumb you are. |

Eleven Eleven
Caldari Caldari Joint Task Force
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Posted - 2008.06.28 19:40:00 -
[129]
Originally by: TheAdj That really is a halfassed article, that's pretty **** poor for the NYTimes. It just abruptly ends with no further explanation. Nice hat though.
I expected to see links to at least 4-5 pages, then it ended, after about 45 seconds.
that hat is **** though!
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Liu Kaskakka
PAK
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Posted - 2008.06.28 19:55:00 -
[130]
The hat is kuul. King Liu is RIGHT!!
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General Windypops
Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2008.06.28 20:05:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Eleven Eleven
Originally by: TheAdj That really is a halfassed article, that's pretty **** poor for the NYTimes. It just abruptly ends with no further explanation. Nice hat though.
I expected to see links to at least 4-5 pages, then it ended, after about 45 seconds.
that hat is **** though!
To be fair, Goonswarm have already had their five minutes of fame in the global media. Several papers ran stories on that little hissy-fit they had when they didn't get their way, got in a strop and launched a Threadnought on the forums.
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fugazii
Deep Space Productions
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Posted - 2008.06.28 20:29:00 -
[132]
Love em or hate em, thats one badass way of releasing your next plans. |

Cors
It's A Trap
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Posted - 2008.06.28 20:51:00 -
[133]
Edited by: Cors on 28/06/2008 20:52:44 The funny thing about this, is that folks are focusing on the Goon/BOB thing, and the OMG They're in the NYT thing.
Most aren't looking at how this is going to effect 0.0 alliacne's.
Look at the past.
When has BOB had the most fun? When they were steamrolling over the south and when the whole south was "Choo Chooing" towards NOL.
Now, it's a reapeat. Sorta. They're STILL going to go out, and most likely siege systems, blow up POS's and so on. But they're NOT going to take them over? (Other then a few POS's for a cap ship highway most likely and some high end moons)
But if they for example steam roll across the south again, and NOT have to worry about defending any of the territory they take.. Takeing a scorched earth approach to things. Then they'll be able to focus their power on destroying the space of hostile alliance's.
Once they've done that, then they can move on to the next, without worrying about leaving 10% of their people, and billions of isk in POS's in their wake, and just focus on the NEXT one.
But what WILL happen in their wake? Most likely smaller alliance's allied with BOB will roll in and claim SOV. Why not? I would. You may even see BOB "Pets"/Allies helping out in this MAX approach to 0.0 pvp.
Step back and look at it.
You get to go to a hostile alliance's space. Pew pew. Crush them. Then move on to the next. Minimal POS/Supplychain work... other then moveing around some fuel via Titan's/Jump Freighters for Cap ship Fuel.
And in their wake, new alliance's can move to 0.0 and setup shop. They can be potential targets a year from now once BOB has rolled around the map.
So what's your best bet?
Clockwise? Or Counter Clockwise?
I'll go Clockwise. Some good moons in Fountain. Say high to PL and friends when you go through. :)
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Tzujeih
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.28 20:58:00 -
[134]
Yeah good luck with that.
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Bao Trinh
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Posted - 2008.06.28 21:11:00 -
[135]
Edited by: Bao Trinh on 28/06/2008 21:11:49 Posted with wrong character, silly me.
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SnowUponPetal
Best Path Inc. Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.06.28 21:11:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Cors
But what WILL happen in their wake? Most likely smaller alliance's allied with BOB will roll in and claim SOV. Why not? I would. You may even see BOB "Pets"/Allies helping out in this MAX approach to 0.0 pvp.
So the Max strategy is clearing out hostiles from territory, then installing pets. That sounds familiar. . .
Does Max differ from traditional conquest only in that BoB won't defend their pets from counter-attack, because territory defense is not part of the doctrine?
And if their pets don't take sov, then the more space BoB clears, the harder it will be to patrol all of it to prevent others from returning after BoB has gone on to engage other enemies.
Max sounds like an easier doctrine to begin than to sustain.
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Ju Ming
Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.28 21:12:00 -
[137]
Dudes,
the only twist with the new MAX campaign is that we get to see which carebears re willing to bribe BOB not to attack them
but the twist we receive is that even if BOB attack they will not be taking sov so the alliance that gets attacked is never in danger of long term loss of SOV
Sig locked, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please email [email protected] ~Saint
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Vladic Ka
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.28 21:27:00 -
[138]
Should this topic even be in caod?
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General Windypops
Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2008.06.28 21:44:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Vladic Ka Should this topic even be in caod?
Yeah, because threads in which the most powerful alliance in Eve announces its strategic direction for the coming year should really be in, what, agents and missions?
PS - I wonder if you guys are first?
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Shirei
Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.28 21:50:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Cors Edited by: Cors on 28/06/2008 20:52:44 *stuff*
None of what you are describing are even remotely new strategies.. Alliances have been doing that for ages - and will continue doing it, but trying to rebrand it with a silly name isn't gonna make it any more novel than it is.  |

General Windypops
Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2008.06.28 21:54:00 -
[141]
Edited by: General Windypops on 28/06/2008 21:55:36
Originally by: Shirei
Originally by: Cors Edited by: Cors on 28/06/2008 20:52:44 *stuff*
None of what you are describing are even remotely new strategies.. Alliances have been doing that for ages - and will continue doing it, but trying to rebrand it with a silly name isn't gonna make it any more novel than it is. 
Maybe if they rebranded it 'MaxJihad' you'd have found it funnier?
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thomas mk2
Rainer Luxus
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Posted - 2008.06.28 21:58:00 -
[142]
cool article, cool picture  |

Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.28 21:58:00 -
[143]
Hey Windypops, good to see that time and age didn't make you any wiser (or funnier). |

General Windypops
Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2008.06.28 22:02:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Hey Windypops, good to see that time and age didn't make you any wiser (or funnier).
I dunno, my 'Dining in Nolton' and 'Pembroke back mountain' jokes were pretty damn classy. Must really hurt you guys that you don't have a premier league forum warrior like me on your side.
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Vladic Ka
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.28 22:04:00 -
[145]
Originally by: General Windypops Yeah, because threads in which the most powerful alliance in Eve announces its strategic direction for the coming year should really be in, what, agents and missions?
PS - I wonder if you guys are first?
I dont really see what they announced except that RL Molle may or may not be an old man with gender issues.
I hope they do test max blueballs on us. |

General Windypops
Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2008.06.28 22:09:00 -
[146]
Edited by: General Windypops on 28/06/2008 22:10:19
Originally by: Vladic Ka I dont really see what they announced except that RL Molle may or may not be an old man with gender issues.
When all else fails just launch a personal attack on people eh? Personally, if I'm still having that much fun in 10 years time I think it's pretty damn cool. Shame that you have such issues with more mature people, and that you aren't manly enough to get away with wearing pink hats.
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Vladic Ka
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.28 22:17:00 -
[147]
Originally by: General Windypops When all else fails just launch a personal attack on people eh? Personally, if I'm still having that much fun in 10 years time I think it's pretty damn cool. Shame that you have such issues with more mature people, and that you aren't manly enough to get away with wearing pink hats.
Not much different from your 'Dining in Nolton' and 'Pembroke back mountain' jokes eh?
And pink makes old men look ***. Enough said. |

Terror Rising
Death Of Fallen Angels
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Posted - 2008.06.28 22:26:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Vladic Ka I dont really see what they announced except that RL Molle may or may not be an old man with gender issues.
Noone get the pink hat thing then? Hmm ... ok, must just be me ..
41 is old? damn .... |

Ghaelsto Kakram
Mindgamers
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Posted - 2008.06.28 22:28:00 -
[149]
Originally by: General Windypops Wow, this one's really got Goonies riled. Don't worry fellas, just because BoB do things bigger and better than you doesn't mean you can't start up your own pale imitation.
Tbh Bobbits are imitating Goons. And that's really really sad.
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Vladic Ka
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.28 22:35:00 -
[150]
If bob want to announce max blueballs here let them do it.
This is just some OOP stuff an alt posted tbh. |

General Windypops
Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2008.06.28 22:38:00 -
[151]
Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram
Originally by: General Windypops Wow, this one's really got Goonies riled. Don't worry fellas, just because BoB do things bigger and better than you doesn't mean you can't start up your own pale imitation.
Tbh Bobbits are imitating Goons. And that's really really sad.
I notice that your last 3 posts on these forums have been:
Originally by: "Ghaelsto Kakram" That's really really sad
Originally by: "Ghaelsto Kakram" You're just stupid
Originally by: "Ghaelsto Kakram" Your an idiot
(typo is your own)
Maybe you should diversify your forum smack a little more?
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MASSIVEMURDERMACHINE
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.06.28 22:47:00 -
[152]
T H E K E Y |

Trepkos
Point Blank Carebears
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Posted - 2008.06.28 22:55:00 -
[153]
Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram
Originally by: General Windypops Wow, this one's really got Goonies riled. Don't worry fellas, just because BoB do things bigger and better than you doesn't mean you can't start up your own pale imitation.
Tbh Bobbits are imitating Goons. And that's really really sad.
I notice that your last 3 posts on these forums have been:
Originally by: "Ghaelsto Kakram" That's really really sad
Originally by: "Ghaelsto Kakram" You're just stupid
Originally by: "Ghaelsto Kakram" Your an idiot
(typo is your own)
Maybe you should diversify your forum smack a little more?
Actual brainthought in posts are overrated.... |

Flash Ahhhahhhhh
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Posted - 2008.06.28 22:58:00 -
[154]
Now who can take a man serious who poses for a picture whilst holding an invisible beer huh? huh? ... so there ... I must be right (I think)  |

dastommy79
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.28 23:04:00 -
[155]
Who do i have to invite to my bbqs to get the NY times to publish the story?
Molle making out with remidial. I have video.
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Ghaelsto Kakram
Mindgamers
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Posted - 2008.06.28 23:16:00 -
[156]
Originally by: General Windypops
Maybe you should diversify your forum smack a little more?
If Bob isn't original why should I be?
Besides, Goons are just stupid and there is nothing original about that. Its simply annoying. And so are you.
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Charles Case
Caldari Duragon Pioneer Group GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.28 23:45:00 -
[157]
man with that type of strategic genius no wonder GS has not been able to do anything against BoB.
also, windypops has a forums meltdown itt. calling it now.
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General Windypops
Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2008.06.28 23:46:00 -
[158]
Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram If Bob isn't original why should I be?
QFT - Making alliance announcements in the NY Times while wearing a jaunty pink hat have been done to death. Try harder Bob!
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HC MasiEEE
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.29 00:01:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram
Originally by: General Windypops
Maybe you should diversify your forum smack a little more?
If Bob isn't original why should I be?
Besides, Goons are just stupid and there is nothing original about that. Its simply annoying. And so are you.
Still poasting with an alt is 
______________________________________ HC MasiEEE - Proud Member of DICE
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Ghaelsto Kakram
Mindgamers
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Posted - 2008.06.29 00:12:00 -
[160]
Originally by: General Windypops QFT - Making alliance announcements in the NY Times while wearing a jaunty pink hat have been done to death. Try harder Bob!
Its the message that matters not the messenger. Although he did sanction betraying a 'brother'.
Lets face it. MAX is a Bob copout because they can't hack territorial warfare anymore. Without any pets left to blame they aren't able to fight the failtrain head on anymore.
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HC MasiEEE
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.29 00:14:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram
Originally by: General Windypops QFT - Making alliance announcements in the NY Times while wearing a jaunty pink hat have been done to death. Try harder Bob!
Its the message that matters not the messenger. Although he did sanction betraying a 'brother'.
Lets face it. MAX is a Bob copout because they can't hack territorial warfare anymore. Without any pets left to blame they aren't able to fight the failtrain head on anymore.
My point still stands 
______________________________________ HC MasiEEE - Proud Member of DICE
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Arlenna Molatov
Caldari The 59th Parallel
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Posted - 2008.06.29 00:23:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Alexi Kalashnikov Haven't you tried this before?
You know, and failed?
A few times?
ROFL!!
Kettle...pot...black....ROFL!
Face it goonkids....you wont win either :D |

fugazii
Deep Space Productions
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Posted - 2008.06.29 00:41:00 -
[163]
I dont understand this originality jab. Would it of been better for them to wage a war in the same fashion they(and nearly every other space holder) has been doing for their entire existence? This is actually a original type campaign for their alliance as they have never waged war in this fashion at a full scale.
However what type of war would be considered original? Goons are complaining that they aren't original because they're already fighting people without threats of conquering, but Goons didn't come up with this type of campaign either.
"There is nothing they can do to counter 5000 f*****g Goons logged in and ready to go." - darius JOHNSON |

Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.06.29 01:21:00 -
[164]
Wow, not bad molle.
- Gob
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Aketh Nark
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Posted - 2008.06.29 01:26:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Gneeznow I think this is relevent to this topic somehow
Pouhaha, relevant indeed. ROFL
. . . . . . . . . . ......Still laughing |

Idaeus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.29 01:40:00 -
[166]
Edited by: Idaeus on 29/06/2008 01:42:36 e: I misread you, fugazii.
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Astasia Orian
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.29 02:11:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram
Lets face it. MAX is a Bob copout because they can't hack territorial warfare anymore.
Now that we have the lovely MC constellation it's hard to get excited about anything anymore :(
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DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.06.29 03:32:00 -
[168]
Hey cool I didn't know GoonSwarm did everything before BoB and BoB is only catching up on the endgame which has been so thoroughly trodden by these elite pvpers. looooooooool, will have to check my next stool for solid bricks of irony.
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Selk Cantor
Minmatar Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.29 04:14:00 -
[169]
Cheers to all the Razor replies. I guess they're getting so emotional, since we're the only alliance over 1,000 pilots in the game they haven't napped. Maybe if you double nap smashkill they'll be your friends again.
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Mike Huckabee
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.06.29 04:21:00 -
[170]
This reminds me of Hillary Clinton and Lotka Volterra.
T H E K E Y
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Metal Dude
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.29 05:08:00 -
[171]
Don't you goons worry. Cyno jammer and few titans will keep you safe. It's an impenetrable defense. Remember?
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Ayeson
Bears Inc Violent-Tendencies
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Posted - 2008.06.29 05:25:00 -
[172]
Originally by: Is for****
Originally by: HitMeUp Ingame
Originally by: Attak I would like to congratulate BoB on this revolutionary new strategy of sending ships to your enemy's space to try and kill as many people as you can.
this
agreeing with this
aggreeing with the aggreement of the aggrement of this
amidointhisrite?
Bears is Recruiting? |

Kyrie Elaison
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.06.29 07:45:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Metal Dude Don't you goons worry. Cyno jammer and few titans will keep you safe. It's an impenetrable defense. Remember?
Frankly, we worry more about your corp's posting. You guys make Battlestars look like pros. Seriously, bob posting is usually kind of mugglish (I actually like the word filter) but you guys...oh man, you're truly special (ed). Arghy is the one true God and Dungar is His prophet. |

Kyrie Elaison
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.06.29 07:58:00 -
[174]
Originally by: DigitalCommunist Hey cool I didn't know GoonSwarm did everything before BoB and BoB is only catching up on the endgame which has been so thoroughly trodden by these elite pvpers. looooooooool, will have to check my next stool for solid bricks of irony.
This is truly the dumbest thing you've ever posted on these forums. While I'm aware that this is a bold statement, it's also the truth.
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Terror Rising
Death Of Fallen Angels
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Posted - 2008.06.29 08:09:00 -
[175]
Did someone sell "DigitalCommunist", I can't find an auction on the Character Bazzar anywhere.. |

Muro Deez
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.29 08:30:00 -
[176]
Edited by: Muro Deez on 29/06/2008 08:30:00 jesus christ there are some terrible posts in this thread
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Major Stonewall
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.29 08:42:00 -
[177]
confirm point on steak 
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Maximum Dam'age
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.29 10:01:00 -
[178]
Epic stuff.
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Iva Soreass
Personal Vendetta Vendetta Alliance.
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Posted - 2008.06.29 10:56:00 -
[179]
Jesus christ there is alot of failswarm in this thread.
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CoolSprog
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.29 11:16:00 -
[180]
After the 2nd page i basiclly forgot what this post was all about... All i read was specialswarm and failfleet whining they were an after-thought in the NYT article.
Notice how the goons dominate goon posts... Notice how the goons dominate BoB posts...
Web-board warriors 4tw, if only you had the same skills in game 
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.06.29 11:16:00 -
[181]
damn nice hat!
and looks like it was a nice bbq. makes me want to do an Idle Guns bbq
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Ghaelsto Kakram
Mindgamers
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Posted - 2008.06.29 11:26:00 -
[182]
Originally by: CoolSprog
Notice how the goons dominate goon posts... Notice how the goons dominate BoB posts...
Notice how the goons dominate goon BoB... Notice how the goons dominate goon Eve...
BoB's response. 'Lets go kill 2nd rate alliances who are too nubish to give a proper fight'
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Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.29 11:37:00 -
[183]
That's a damn nice hat and it looked like a fun out of game event ------
Tides of Silence |

CoolSprog
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.29 11:43:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram
Originally by: CoolSprog
Notice how the goons dominate goon posts... Notice how the goons dominate BoB posts...
Notice how the goons dominate goon BoB... Notice how the goons dominate goon Eve...
BoB's response. 'Lets go kill 2nd rate alliances who are too nubish to give a proper fight'
................................What.
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King Fury
Caldari Fury Corp.
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Posted - 2008.06.29 14:10:00 -
[185]
Originally by: CoolSprog
Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram
Originally by: CoolSprog
Notice how the goons dominate goon posts... Notice how the goons dominate BoB posts...
Notice how the goons dominate goon BoB... Notice how the goons dominate goon Eve...
BoB's response. 'Lets go kill 2nd rate alliances who are too nubish to give a proper fight'
................................What.
Bob have being post bs propaganda from day 1. Goons backup there posts.... how many reasons did you lose bobit?
Now all you have to gloat about is pikeys stealing titans and thats from its own members.
Now remind us all....what have you achieved in last 6 months?
Poor BoB just disband already, your now looking like ASCN 
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General Windypops
Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2008.06.29 14:29:00 -
[186]
Originally by: King Fury
Bob have being post bs propaganda from day 1. Goons backup there posts.... how many reasons did you lose bobit?
Now all you have to gloat about is pikeys stealing titans and thats from its own members.
Now remind us all....what have you achieved in last 6 months?
Poor BoB just disband already, your now looking like ASCN 
Dear god, I knew Ragoon posting had hit an all time low, but I really didn't think it had got this eye-wateringly cringeworthy. Just think, if you'd played your cards right you could have had me on your team...
You get the lame spindypops, GBC get mad windyprops.
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Ghaelsto Kakram
Mindgamers
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Posted - 2008.06.29 16:34:00 -
[187]
Originally by: General Windypops Just think, if you'd played your cards right you could have had me on your team...
If you did play your cards right you wouldn't be looking like some self imposed COAD flaming alt.
King Fury has a point though. Looking a lot like the ASCN isn't something you should be proud of. |

Tzujeih
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.29 17:45:00 -
[188]
Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: King Fury
Bob have being post bs propaganda from day 1. Goons backup there posts.... how many reasons did you lose bobit?
Now all you have to gloat about is pikeys stealing titans and thats from its own members.
Now remind us all....what have you achieved in last 6 months?
Poor BoB just disband already, your now looking like ASCN 
Dear god, I knew Ragoon posting had hit an all time low, but I really didn't think it had got this eye-wateringly cringeworthy. Just think, if you'd played your cards right you could have had me on your team...
You get the lame spindypops, GBC get mad windyprops.
That made me want to bore my eyes out with a rusty spoon. |

Lord WarATron
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.29 18:54:00 -
[189]
Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram
BoB's response. 'Lets go kill 2nd rate alliances who are too nubish to give a proper fight'
I would have said 3rd rate. Unless Coalition we killed consider themselves Second rate? --
Billion Isk Mission |

Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.29 19:06:00 -
[190]
Originally by: King Fury Goons backup there posts....
This is true.
They backed up so far I can't even see them from NOL.
Eve-Online: The Text Adventure |

Kyrie Elaison
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.06.29 19:51:00 -
[191]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: King Fury Goons backup there posts....
This is true.
They backed up so far I can't even see them from NOL.
NOL jokes are funnier than "there are no goons" jokes, but not quite as funny as BoD jokes. Really. Arghy is the one true God and Dungar is His prophet. |

Emrod
Amarr Legion Du Lys GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.29 19:57:00 -
[192]
GOON Big annoucement on CNN tomorrow at 20 pm east coast.
true story.
COAD is for morons.......hey...wait a minute 0o !!! |

Halkin
Locus Solus
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Posted - 2008.06.29 22:23:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: King Fury Goons backup there posts....
This is true.
They backed up so far I can't even see them from NOL.
NOL jokes are funnier than "there are no goons" jokes, but not quite as funny as BoD jokes. Really.
you didnt mention LV?
Originally by: Elise Randolph Everybody wins when trolls get trolled.
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clagnuts
Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.29 22:35:00 -
[194]
guys stop with the bbq,s, ffs 2 thirds of you are obease try having your next meet at slimers world
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DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.06.29 23:45:00 -
[195]
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison
Originally by: DigitalCommunist Hey cool I didn't know GoonSwarm did everything before BoB and BoB is only catching up on the endgame which has been so thoroughly trodden by these elite pvpers. looooooooool, will have to check my next stool for solid bricks of irony.
This is truly the dumbest thing you've ever posted on these forums. While I'm aware that this is a bold statement, it's also the truth.
Don't be that way, lets talk about it. ;((((((((
#care irc.coldfront.net |

HostageTaker
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.30 00:37:00 -
[196]
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison
Originally by: DigitalCommunist Hey cool I didn't know GoonSwarm did everything before BoB and BoB is only catching up on the endgame which has been so thoroughly trodden by these elite pvpers. looooooooool, will have to check my next stool for solid bricks of irony.
This is truly the dumbest thing you've ever posted on these forums. While I'm aware that this is a bold statement, it's also the truth.
Don't be that way, lets talk about it. ;((((((((
#care irc.coldfront.net
Digi!!! Can it be hugs time now?! 
_o_
>>> EvE-Online Wallpapers <<< |

Techali
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.30 01:09:00 -
[197]
I love all the people trying to talk smack with the argument of "where is the goons news article???"
I don't feel like looking for the link, but Mittani had a huge article written about him and the GIA a year or two ago, not just a few paragraphs. Hopefully someone else has the link handy.
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MASSIVEMURDERMACHINE
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.06.30 01:27:00 -
[198]
T H E K E Y
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Dramatic Statement
Southern Dandies Drama Society
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Posted - 2008.06.30 01:28:00 -
[199]
Quote: I don't feel like looking for the link, but Mittani had a huge article written about him and the GIA a year or two ago, not just a few paragraphs. Hopefully someone else has the link handy.
There's nothing quite so sad as those who claw and sc*****their fingers bloody trying to hold on to faded glory.
What's it like renting space from RA and borrowing time from BoB? Your credit rating must be atrocious.
Bringing a little class to the Dirty South. |

Dirtball
PinK TacO Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.30 01:31:00 -
[200]
Originally by: DigitalCommunist Hey cool I didn't know GoonSwarm did everything before BoB and BoB is only catching up on the endgame which has been so thoroughly trodden by these elite pvpers. looooooooool, will have to check my next stool for solid bricks of irony.
they did get the first titan combat kill,
and 'goons never again holding 0.0 space' vs 'dining in nol' you decide whose lie is bigger
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Slatka Radodajka
Gallente Zagorska tajna sluzba za ispitivanje kakvoce VINA
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Posted - 2008.06.30 01:39:00 -
[201]
Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram
Originally by: General Windypops Just think, if you'd played your cards right you could have had me on your team...
If you did play your cards right you wouldn't be looking like some self imposed COAD flaming alt.
King Fury has a point though. Looking a lot like the ASCN isn't something you should be proud of.
Do you even think before posting something stupid like this.Hmmm lokinng your last few post while reading this thread i fealt sory for you mate.
Get outside,drink a beer.Finde a girl cause this game isnt making you happy.You know most of us play this game cause it is fun. Seeing your comments full of bitternes i feel sory for you.
Evevn Angelico isnt so bitter like you.Go play something that will not make you so bitter.Poor guy this Bob did something realy horible to you. What they did.Comon dont be bitter just tell us.You will feal much better. |

Techali
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.30 02:12:00 -
[202]
Originally by: Dramatic Statement
Quote: I don't feel like looking for the link, but Mittani had a huge article written about him and the GIA a year or two ago, not just a few paragraphs. Hopefully someone else has the link handy.
There's nothing quite so sad as those who claw and sc*****their fingers bloody trying to hold on to faded glory.
What's it like renting space from RA and borrowing time from BoB? Your credit rating must be atrocious.
Renting space? Borrowing time? How much 0.0 have you seen?
The point I apparently failed to make was that eve is a popular game and big groups get their 15 minutes. Does that mean power has shifted dramatically since that article posted? Not at all. I just pointed out that the argument people who either don't know the past, or are conveniently 'forgetting,' is wrong. I don't have the proof handy to avoid being called a liar, but I'm sure someone does. |

Moonlight Express
Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.30 02:21:00 -
[203]
Originally by: Dirtball
Originally by: DigitalCommunist Hey cool I didn't know GoonSwarm did everything before BoB and BoB is only catching up on the endgame which has been so thoroughly trodden by these elite pvpers. looooooooool, will have to check my next stool for solid bricks of irony.
they did get the first titan combat kill,
and 'goons never again holding 0.0 space' vs 'dining in nol' you decide whose lie is bigger
What's bigger failure? Not being able to keep an alliance out of all of 0.0 or not be able to take a single system with 1/2 of EVE? You decide.
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Aaron Static
Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.30 02:28:00 -
[204]
Another year, another BoB media circus
Hopefully once they've had their fill of attention they might login and play eve
fake edit: who am I kidding
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Aaron Static
Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.30 02:29:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Moonlight Express What's bigger failure? Not being able to keep an alliance out of all of 0.0 or not be able to take a single system with 1/2 of EVE? You decide.
Stop posting and come back when you understand POS warfare mechanics
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Kyrie Elaison
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.06.30 02:31:00 -
[206]
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison
Originally by: DigitalCommunist Hey cool I didn't know GoonSwarm did everything before BoB and BoB is only catching up on the endgame which has been so thoroughly trodden by these elite pvpers. looooooooool, will have to check my next stool for solid bricks of irony.
This is truly the dumbest thing you've ever posted on these forums. While I'm aware that this is a bold statement, it's also the truth.
Don't be that way, lets talk about it. ;((((((((
#care irc.coldfront.net
:( Arghy is the one true God and Dungar is His prophet. |

Slatka Radodajka
Gallente Zagorska tajna sluzba za ispitivanje kakvoce VINA
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Posted - 2008.06.30 02:41:00 -
[207]
Originally by: Moonlight Express
Originally by: Dirtball
Originally by: DigitalCommunist Hey cool I didn't know GoonSwarm did everything before BoB and BoB is only catching up on the endgame which has been so thoroughly trodden by these elite pvpers. looooooooool, will have to check my next stool for solid bricks of irony.
they did get the first titan combat kill,
and 'goons never again holding 0.0 space' vs 'dining in nol' you decide whose lie is bigger
What's bigger failure? Not being able to keep an alliance out of all of 0.0 or not be able to take a single system with 3/4 of EVE? You decide.
Fixed for you.
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Slatka Radodajka
Gallente Zagorska tajna sluzba za ispitivanje kakvoce VINA
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Posted - 2008.06.30 02:44:00 -
[208]
Originally by: Aaron Static
Originally by: Moonlight Express What's bigger failure? Not being able to keep an alliance out of all of 0.0 or not be able to take a single system with 1/2 of EVE? You decide.
Stop posting and come back when you understand POS warfare mechanics
Stop being so bitter and go kill some spaceship for fun.I know you will like it.
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.30 03:50:00 -
[209]
hey yo bob guys could you just accept that you lost the war and move on already
you guys are like gore supporters in 2001, just get over it |

Astasia Orian
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.30 03:55:00 -
[210]
Excelsior! |

Serret
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.30 04:10:00 -
[211]
Originally by: Martin VanBuren hey yo bob guys could you just accept that you lost the war and move on already
Score one for revisionism!
Quote: you guys are like gore supporters in 2001, just get over it
Score two for revisionism!! |

Elkyri Mantis
Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.06.30 04:22:00 -
[212]
Yeah my sig sums up my thoughts about this thread quite well.
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Amastat
Caldari Omegatech
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Posted - 2008.06.30 04:58:00 -
[213]
Edited by: Amastat on 30/06/2008 05:03:40 MAX was not explained in not much detail at all - but it sounds like BoB wants to control EVE through fear, influence, and embargo's sorta?
That sounds like a revolutionary approach at warfare in EVE - however It sounds like it could suck badly - for all sides. The Embargoes in example, could require BoB alliances to just bite on it for a while - in effort to starve opposition, or everyone else who may be considered "collateral damage". I just hope it doesn't seriously screw up the economy in EVE - that is if this actually is pulled off.
This is a huge undertaking and will require the cooperation of many-many-many people with a good head on their shoulders - even Molle himself cannot effectively coordinate just a fraction of this, if this happens on a Galactic scale. BoB will need a army of agents at work on this, however, they already in a way do, for the most part.
BoB Spy Rings have usually been quiet, in the shadows, and professional - but this sounds like it would be the first major activation of the BoB Spy Ring, to the point where we can see them out in the light, feel the effects, and be aware of who's causing it - unless people are incredibly stupid and blind, which never fails to amaze me...
Goonswarm has already done this, though more in a psychological way - what MAX is proposing is more political/economic it seems. It would be much like the situation with the US and North Korea standing off - the US wouldn't give them relief, and aid, unless they disarmed; sort of the same thing here, but on a much larger scale.
At one point or another I think BoB is going to have to use psychological warfare, and wide use of propaganda, like Goons did, to pull this off. Everything may crumble and shift faster then BoB can keep up with it, unless they use these tools to manipulate things in their favor.
Some may call this the crowning achievement of metagaming - which in a way, it really is - however, metagaming is just another way of accusing someone of playing strategically and smart. This is how BoB has gotten where it is today - probably we should stop *****ing about BoB metagaming, when theres nothing wrong with it, and play smart as well? Sitting on our asses whining doesn't help any hopeful opposition against BoB.
But again, back to my concern about the embargoes. Not whining about bob playing smart - but I'm concerned about the complexity of BoB's strategy, on such a large scale, and the sheer seriousness of it, would take the fun and casual play away from EVE. A lot of people like to play to win - and that's fine, however this could force casual gamers to deal with this, and maybe even stop playing casually.
I have no idea what the plans of MAX is in detail, however if they want it to work - I imagine this could possibly happen at it's peak, so I can't help but be concerned of it screwing up markets for a lot of players, even those who are not involved in the war in any way at all. If bob creates enough embargoes, it's going to eventually effect people outside BoB's targeting computers, and create collateral damage.
If that became the case, would CCP step in and intervene? If it actually happened that way, and BoB was controlling all the market flow in their favor, this change would literally change ALL of EVE. People would acknowledge the economy to be moreso a prison - and CCP would have to as well maybe, depending on what they want?
If CCP wants the alliances to run their course undisturbed, then I guess they would let it be - but if they are more concerned about the game being ruined, they would have to step in if a lot of people felt that way about it. I'm not CCP, so I'd have to hear it from them - but I imagine they would say yes to both, and would be at a cross on this issue? |

Kyrie Elaison
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.06.30 05:08:00 -
[214]
Originally by: Amastat MAX was not explained in not much detail at all - but it sounds like BoB wants to control EVE through fear, influence, and embargo's sorta?
That sounds like a revolutionary approach at warfare in EVE - however It sounds like it could suck badly - for all sides. The Embargoes in example, could require BoB alliances to just bite on it for a while - in effort to starve opposition, or everyone else who may be considered "collateral damage". I just hope it doesn't seriously screw up the economy in EVE - that is if this actually is pulled off.
This is a huge undertaking and will require the cooperation of many-many-many people with a good head on their shoulders - even Molle himself cannot effectively coordinate just a fraction of this, if this happens on a Galactic scale. BoB will need a army of agents at work on this, however, they already in a way do, for the most part.
BoB Spy Rings have usually been quiet, in the shadows, and professional - but this sounds like it would be the first major activation of the BoB Spy Ring, to the point where we can see them out in the light, feel the effects, and be aware of who's causing it - unless people are incredibly stupid and blind, which never fails to amaze me...
Goonswarm has already done this, though more in a psychological way - what MAX is proposing is more political/economic it seems. It would be much like the situation with the US and North Korea standing off - the US wouldn't give them relief, and aid, unless they disarmed; sort of the same thing here, but on a much larger scale.
At one point or another I think BoB is going to have to use psychological warfare, and wide use of propaganda, like Goons did, to pull this off. Everything may crumble and shift faster then BoB can keep up with it, unless they use these tools to manipulate things in their favor.
Some may call this the crowning achievement of metagaming - which in a way, it really is - however, metagaming is just another way of accusing someone of playing strategically and smart. This is how BoB has gotten where it is today - probably we should stop *****ing about BoB metagaming, when theres nothing wrong with it, and play smart as well? Sitting on our asses whining doesn't help any hopeful opposition against BoB.
But again, back to my concern about the embargoes. Not whining about bob playing smart - but I'm concerned about the complexity of BoB's strategy, on such a large scale, and the sheer seriousness of it, would take the fun and casual play away from EVE. A lot of people like to play to win - and that's fine, however this could force casual gamers to deal with this, and maybe even stop playing casually.
I have no idea what the plans of MAX is in detail, however if they want it to work - I imagine this could possibly happen at it's peak, so I can't help but be concerned of it screwing up markets for a lot of players, even those who are not involved in the war in any way at all. If bob creates enough embargoes, it's going to eventually effect people outside BoB's targeting computers, and create collateral damage.
This is going to be Jihadswarm in 0.0 if only because Concord will ruin bob's k/d ratios. At most, they'll conduct POS wars without dropping their own towers. The only "mystery" of their plans is how dumb pubbies can't see the obvious. Arghy is the one true God and Dungar is His prophet. |

Rechal
Active Measures
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Posted - 2008.06.30 06:00:00 -
[215]
Originally by: Astasia Orian Excelsior!
Good one, true believer. I lol'd. 
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Scatim Helicon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.30 07:10:00 -
[216]
~420~
~~~~sHoOt PoS eVeRyDaY~~~~ |

Amastat
Caldari Omegatech
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Posted - 2008.06.30 07:16:00 -
[217]
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison This is going to be Jihadswarm in 0.0 if only because Concord will ruin bob's k/d ratios. At most, they'll conduct POS wars without dropping their own towers. The only "mystery" of their plans is how dumb pubbies can't see the obvious.
If that is how it's going to be, though it sounds like thats just a part of what is described in MAX, it's already been done. In fact, it's done all the time - pretty much every single npc 0.0 based alliance employees this tactic - which usually is nothing more then the local pest more than anything.
I had read they were going to basically operate by controlling the other alliances (making them pets), by economic means (embargoes), or by fighting politically (propaganda, political PvP), and fighting by traditional military means (pillaging, raiding, etc).
To me, as I was reading this, it sounded like BoB is basically going to continue what they are doing, but drop the whole POS war thing and fighting over territory - but rather using embargos, propaganda, political, and Total War tactics to drive opposing alliances into submission by breaking their spirit.
The situation that many of BoB's pet alliances were in, were a perfect example of these tactics BoB has used and is saying they want to use more - they break alliances so badly, until they submit, surrender, and pay protection money and spill blood for BoB when BoB says.
I have been very neutral in the central conflict between BoB and Goon, and don't care for it - however, and I'll probably be flamed for this by forum alts, but I'd rather live nextdoor to Goon space and deal with their crap, then live next door to BoB space and have them relentlessly bully and milk me and everyone else in my alliance. Tolerating them out of fear just seems like slavery to me, IMO - or being in a prison made out of fear.
If they wanted to control the entire galaxy, this would be on a galactic scale - which is why I was concerned about all the embargoes - it would effect everyone, not just BoB's enemies.
But either way - they would be an alliance with very little space - since that wouldn't be their focus in this plan. They would instead have all of their forces spreading influence and getting more pets for them to milk resources and fleets out of.
As to wither or not they would want to keep Delve in the MAX plan - don't know, I suppose they could - however all it would take is for Delve to be sieged, and their MAX plan would come to a screeching halt. If they wanted to go with MAX, without end, they have to give up sovereignty altogether, and treat their influence as their new measurement of power - not territory.
However, yea - it is a coincidence this happens during the BBQ - it could be something as simple as a motivational stunt. Or, it could be something that was nothing more than talked about, and BoB may not even do this - and this is just the new thing everyone in COAD has to gossip about. We just have to wait and see what BoB does then - but it would take a few months probably to even notice MAX actually working (if it does), if they are indeed speaking the truth about this and will follow it.
BoB has had a history and reputation for keeping anything like this secretive - it is odd they'd even talk about it, unless they just wanted to be in a NY Times article. Maybe it's just a attempt to mislead, or they wanted to be in the NY Times, or they really mean it. |

BuIIseye
Amarr Pax Amarria Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.30 07:21:00 -
[218]
Originally by: clagnuts guys stop with the bbq,s, ffs 2 thirds of you are obease try having your next meet at slimers world
People should appreciate this post more, the Brad Pitt of internet posting has spoken! |

Xanuf
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.30 15:51:00 -
[219]
I know, let's all get really mad about interweb spaceships. |

Svetlanna
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.06.30 16:05:00 -
[220]
What we all would like to know is the following:
Did Mr Moule make a nice PowerPoint Slide show presentation? And if so, could we have a copy of it for inspiration?

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Hey You
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.30 16:20:00 -
[221]
Jesus so many whines here and all we want is jump 250 caps in someones sov 4 constellation and hump their building super caps which is a certain way to get them to actually undock and fight us and hence give us fun... |

Kyrie Elaison
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.06.30 16:45:00 -
[222]
Originally by: Amastat bunch of clueless words
This is the kind of analysis that all the passive-aggressive trolls on scrapheap always wish they'd see on COAD. It's thought out, it's not offensive, and it's long-winded. It's all stupid. I'll take catchphrases over willful ignorance all day long.
Since you're having difficulty, I'll draw the dots for you. Taking and holding territory is very much the endgame for major alliances. Bob, via this announcement, is saying that they're not interested in taking territory, they just want to ruin other people's regions. Hey, what does that sound like? It sounds like serious business jihadswarm.
I feel like I got trolled by DigitalCommunist. :( Arghy is the one true God and Dungar is His prophet. |

Kyrie Elaison
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.06.30 16:48:00 -
[223]
Originally by: Hey You Jesus so many whines here and all we want is jump 250 caps in someones sov 4 constellation and hump their building super caps which is a certain way to get them to actually undock and fight us and hence give us fun...
Shooting POS in a sov 4 system definitely sounds like an interesting plan. Arghy is the one true God and Dungar is His prophet. |

Omeega
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.30 16:58:00 -
[224]
Originally by: Hey You jump 250 caps sov 4 constellation hump their building super caps
/o\
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Empyre
Domestic Reform
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Posted - 2008.06.30 17:10:00 -
[225]
i'm pretty sure the nytimes is waiting, daily i assume, for anything to report other than news that is news.
proof is here, at the top of this very thread.
You're doing it wrong. |

Ghaelsto Kakram
Mindgamers
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Posted - 2008.06.30 17:15:00 -
[226]
Originally by: Hey You Jesus so many whines here and all we want is jump 250 caps in someones sov 4 constellation and hump their building super caps which is a certain way to get them to actually undock and fight us and hence give us fun...
The fun part will be the other side knowing this 3 months in advance and preparing a welcome party.
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.30 17:34:00 -
[227]
Originally by: Hey You Jesus so many whines here and all we want is jump 250 caps in someones sov 4 constellation and hump their building super caps which is a certain way to get them to actually undock and fight us and hence give us fun...
We happy few... -clp
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Nick Curso
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.30 17:42:00 -
[228]
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus
Originally by: Hey You Jesus so many whines here and all we want is jump 250 caps in someones sov 4 constellation and hump their building super caps which is a certain way to get them to actually undock and fight us and hence give us fun...
We happy few...
we band of brosefs |

Kyrie Elaison
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.06.30 17:47:00 -
[229]
Originally by: Nick Curso
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus
Originally by: Hey You Jesus so many whines here and all we want is jump 250 caps in someones sov 4 constellation and hump their building super caps which is a certain way to get them to actually undock and fight us and hence give us fun...
We happy few...
we band of brosefs
for he today that shares his buttes with me |

Hey You
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.30 18:30:00 -
[230]
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison
Originally by: Nick Curso
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus
Originally by: Hey You Jesus so many whines here and all we want is jump 250 caps in someones sov 4 constellation and hump their building super caps which is a certain way to get them to actually undock and fight us and hence give us fun...
We happy few...
we band of brosefs
for he today that shares his buttes with me
FINFL is ---> way. |

Tzujeih
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.30 18:42:00 -
[231]
Edited by: Tzujeih on 30/06/2008 18:46:02
Originally by: Serret
Originally by: Martin VanBuren hey yo bob guys could you just accept that you lost the war and move on already
Score one for revisionism!
Quote: you guys are like gore supporters in 2001, just get over it
Score two for revisionism!!
No doubt everyone's goal post has moved, BoB's especially. (we aren't dead, victory!) And you play the fact that you still retain space as if you've won the game. That is revisionism.
I prefer to look at the sov map and how many of our allies haven't been wiped off of it. Tha map don't lie *****.
awe **** i ruined the st. crispin chain  |

Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.30 18:58:00 -
[232]
Originally by: Serret
Originally by: Martin VanBuren hey yo bob guys could you just accept that you lost the war and move on already
Score one for revisionism!
Quote: you guys are like gore supporters in 2001, just get over it
Score two for revisionism!!
Hey remember that time you invaded us in tandem with LV while we only owned Scalding Pass?
And now LV is dead and we nabbed half of your territory after killing Shrike?
STUNNING VICTORY
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.30 19:03:00 -
[233]
I mean, are your guys' e-egos (e-gos ?) so delicate you can't even accept that you lost once? Here, check this out: Goonswarm lost the fight for XZH! We were well and truly defeated! Good fights were had, but they certainly weren't had by us!
See how refreshing and liberating that was? Now you guys try!
BoB lost the war! You guys got hella tired of fighting over territory no-one cares about in the defense of awful, awful pets like Rise and Corm and just stopped showing up! BoB may not be dead but you certainly got the tar beaten out of you the RSF has replaced you as the greatest Eve superpower!
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Empyre
Domestic Reform
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Posted - 2008.06.30 19:34:00 -
[234]
Originally by: Martin VanBuren I mean, are your guys' e-egos (e-gos ?) so delicate you can't even accept that you lost once? Here, check this out: Goonswarm lost the fight for XZH! We were well and truly defeated! Good fights were had, but they certainly weren't had by us!
See how refreshing and liberating that was? Now you guys try!
BoB lost the war! You guys got hella tired of fighting over territory no-one cares about in the defense of awful, awful pets like Rise and Corm and just stopped showing up! BoB may not be dead but you certainly got the tar beaten out of you the RSF has replaced you as the greatest Eve superpower!
admitting a goon is right feels like admitting to everyone at the office on monday that i saw a donkey show on the weekend. it may be technically correct, but why am i telling everyone?
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HaulandHaul
Gallente Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2008.06.30 20:18:00 -
[235]
Edited by: HaulandHaul on 30/06/2008 20:19:13
Originally by: Martin VanBuren I mean, are your guys' e-egos (e-gos ?) so delicate you can't even accept that you lost once? Here, check this out: Goonswarm lost the fight for XZH! We were well and truly defeated! Good fights were had, but they certainly weren't had by us!
See how refreshing and liberating that was? Now you guys try!
BoB lost the war! You guys got hella tired of fighting over territory no-one cares about in the defense of awful, awful pets like Rise and Corm and just stopped showing up! BoB may not be dead but you certainly got the tar beaten out of you the RSF has replaced you as the greatest Eve superpower!
Goons did not want qy6 anyway, amiright?
Your naptrain failed, and when that happened, your assault on Delve came to a halt, your zomg hide in 319 campain failed and as of the reasons mentioned above your whole campain failed.
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Ki An
Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2008.06.30 22:44:00 -
[236]
Best announcement post ever.
The rest of the thread is pretty fun too.
Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
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Overt Ops
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Posted - 2008.07.01 00:16:00 -
[237]
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |

Stublick Hunt
Minmatar Prince's of the Universe
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Posted - 2008.07.01 00:46:00 -
[238]
Edited by: Stublick Hunt on 01/07/2008 00:46:55 Overt ... I cannot believe you nicked my pic |

Shikome Alluin
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.07.01 00:55:00 -
[239]
Originally by: Overt Ops
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Quoted For prosperity. |

Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2008.07.01 01:01:00 -
[240]
lets hope they dont try to gank freighters in jita  
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.01 01:13:00 -
[241]
Originally by: Overt Ops
I always suspected coranor was a tanned indian with a silly hat, ALWAYS SUSPECTED
also, this thread is great, but its lacking alice chalmolondomolony to make it even more awesomerer
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Disaster Blaster
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.07.01 02:00:00 -
[242]
It is simply a ******** ill thought out strategy of fail.. It is fun though to go out and kill opposing fleets but thats all it will do.. MAX is another name like BOB and thats all this will ever be a name, a fluff peice in a newspaper and a lot of jokes regarding how Molle sits around wanting to be as cool as Tyraxx by wearing an even larger pink hat..

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3Bird
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Posted - 2008.07.10 21:13:00 -
[243]
ahhh is this the last dieing breath from BoB that all of eve has been waiting for??? 
first i gota say, thts one dam sexy hat, but realy, am i the only 1 thinking wtf, ur letting the world know your plan.... by chance are you leting us know wht ur fitting aswell????
.... ill admit i am looking forward to see how effective this is for BoB.... it has its advantages, a force tht is not fixxed will be hard to counter for sure... none the less i wish all the best to goons and all corps and allainces who want to slap BoB as they take there last gasp in this world 
good luck BoB, you will need it. Fly Safe and Good Hunting. |

Zapsus
Amarr Tritanium Transportations R.H.I.N.O.
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Posted - 2008.07.11 14:18:00 -
[244]
Thank you for the hilarious "Village Boobies" picture, Gneeznow.
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