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Tzigan Jegos Dirty Gypsies Trading Co.	Posted - 2008.07.06 12:38:00 - [1] Edited by: Tzigan Jegos on 06/07/2008 12:39:02 Which one holds majority? Orcs, goblins and dragons fans or Space ships, interstellar politics and large scale war fans ? My vote goes to the sci-fi people. legolas must die. The dog that trots about finds a bone. - Gypsy proverb
Mankirks Wife	Posted - 2008.07.06 12:40:00 - [2] Personally I've always been a huge fantasy nut. Dragons > everything else But.. Eve is a really good game on its own merits and that's why I play it. Spaceships are cool too . Although if CCP's new World of Darkness MMO is like Eve but fantasy you can bet I'll be one of the first in the door.
Siberys	Posted - 2008.07.06 12:40:00 - [3] You are asking this on a space ships, interstellar theater polotics and large scale war game? Epic Phailage. BTW I vote spaceships.
Tzigan Jegos Dirty Gypsies Trading Co.	Posted - 2008.07.06 12:44:00 - [4] Originally by: Siberys You are asking this on a space ships, interstellar theater polotics and large scale war game? Epic Phailage. BTW I vote spaceships. yes but i'm fairly certain people can make an objective assumption. world wide, who do you think holds majority ? The dog that trots about finds a bone. - Gypsy proverb
Abrazzar	Posted - 2008.07.06 12:50:00 - [5] I take them both: Goblins in Space FTW! -------- Ideas for: Mining
Illwill Bill Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.07.06 12:53:00 - [6] Originally by: Abrazzar I take them both: Goblins in Space FTW! That would be Amarr. ;) ____________________ Honk if you think that I'm a n00b Lance fighter > Honk.
Tamia Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.07.06 12:54:00 - [7] Spaceships > All Looking for queue-free research slots? Click here!
Tzigan Jegos Dirty Gypsies Trading Co.	Posted - 2008.07.06 12:54:00 - [8] Originally by: Abrazzar I take them both: Goblins in Space FTW! winner! The dog that trots about finds a bone. - Gypsy proverb
FlameGlow Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.07.06 12:56:00 - [9] Warhammer has both orks and spaceships
Siberys	Posted - 2008.07.06 12:58:00 - [10] Originally by: FlameGlow Edited by: FlameGlow on 06/07/2008 12:56:38 Quote: I take them both: Goblins in Space FTW! Warhammer has both orks and spaceships And badass chaos marines and 'nids.
Tzigan Jegos Dirty Gypsies Trading Co.	Posted - 2008.07.06 12:58:00 - [11] Originally by: FlameGlow Warhammer has both orks and spaceships Savage barbarian species and faster than light propulsion engines surely mix well ! heh... The dog that trots about finds a bone. - Gypsy proverb
Dotard Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.07.06 12:59:00 - [12] Originally by: Illwill Bill Originally by: Abrazzar I take them both: Goblins in Space FTW! That would be Amarr. ;) This. --------------- Nerf You! Buff Me!
Zen Mehari	Posted - 2008.07.06 13:35:00 - [13] I'm a sci-fi fan but, Good Fantasy > Average Sci-fi & vice versa.
Tzigan Jegos Dirty Gypsies Trading Co.	Posted - 2008.07.06 13:54:00 - [14] Originally by: Zen Mehari Good Fantasy > Average Sci-fi & vice versa. good > average very englightening. keep posting. The dog that trots about finds a bone. - Gypsy proverb
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2008.07.06 13:56:00 - [15] For movies, sci-fi. For books, sci-fi. For games, both. --- Its dead, Jim.
Tzigan Jegos Dirty Gypsies Trading Co.	Posted - 2008.07.06 13:57:00 - [16] Originally by: Jim McGregor For movies, sci-fi. For books, sci-fi. For games, both. And you know why ?! Because goblins and orcs are much easier to implement into games ! Spaceships require some degree of complexity because ... well, they're not just clubs and armors. The dog that trots about finds a bone. - Gypsy proverb
Antiquus Altercor Minmatar Phoenix Propulsion Labs Lost Sheep Domain	Posted - 2008.07.06 14:03:00 - [17] Edited by: Antiquus Altercor on 06/07/2008 14:04:28 Edited by: Antiquus Altercor on 06/07/2008 14:04:11 Spaceships > will happen Magic > 'Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.' Arthur C. Clarke. I'll add that technology is the ONLY way you are going to get magic. Orcs, Dragons, restofthatcrap > not on this planet, however if you have a spaceship you may go looking for them.....
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.07.06 14:07:00 - [18] This thread is now about the following vote Molecules VS Atoms Come on people - whats your favourite! SKUNK
Tzigan Jegos Dirty Gypsies Trading Co.	Posted - 2008.07.06 14:09:00 - [19] Originally by: Antiquus Altercor Spaceships > will happen Make that: already happened. Originally by: Antiquus Altercor Magic > 'Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.' Arthur C. Clarke. What, flying reptiles and green skinned humanoids are advanced technology ? Lol. Originally by: Antiquus Altercor I'll add that technology is the ONLY way you are going to get magic. Unexplained phenomenons does not equal magic. Well, unless you live in the 13th century. Originally by: Antiquus Altercor Orcs, Dragons, restofthatcrap > not on this planet, however if you have a spaceship you may go looking for them..... May be. I doubt it though. The dog that trots about finds a bone. - Gypsy proverb
Quetl	Posted - 2008.07.06 14:09:00 - [20] Edited by: Quetl on 06/07/2008 14:11:30 Originally by: Tzigan Jegos Edited by: Tzigan Jegos on 06/07/2008 12:39:02 Which one holds majority? Orcs, goblins and dragons fans or Space ships, interstellar politics and large scale war fans ? My vote goes to the sci-fi people. legolas must die. Is this a Generic MMO v EVE choice? In Which case EVE. I love Fantasy novels over Space ones (Although WH40k novels are usually good.), movies hard to call. (BTW i think LOTR can be classed as Large scale war...) One thing i've always wondered is howcome theres many SCI-FI t.v series, but not many Fantasy ones (I cant actually think of one off the top of me noggin.) edit:// With your descriptions, i'm guessing your trying to get a "I love EVE"/"EVE kicks WoW's ass" post.
Tzigan Jegos Dirty Gypsies Trading Co.	Posted - 2008.07.06 14:42:00 - [21] Edited by: Tzigan Jegos on 06/07/2008 14:43:27 Originally by: Quetl Is this a Generic MMO v EVE choice? In Which case EVE. With your descriptions, i'm guessing your trying to get a "I love EVE"/"EVE kicks WoW's ass" post. No, what I'm trying to point out is the difference between them. The newer generations are much more exposed to the "lord of the rings" type of 'fantasy', orcs, gnomes and goblins (warcraft3, WoW, countless other games based on the same lore). Older generations are more into space adventure, spaceships, politics, intrigue, more realistic stuff that will probably happen in the future. You can't compare them. One is for grown ups, other is for putting kids to sleep. The dog that trots about finds a bone. - Gypsy proverb
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2008.07.06 14:44:00 - [22] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 06/07/2008 14:45:08 Originally by: Quetl One thing i've always wondered is howcome theres many SCI-FI t.v series, but not many Fantasy ones (I cant actually think of one off the top of me noggin.) The large mass dont like fantasy I think, even though the success of The Lord of the Rings trilogy kind of argues against that... Ive seen some of Bewitched and it has magic, but its not really fantasy. Also its pretty bad and boring. --- Its dead, Jim.
Siberys	Posted - 2008.07.06 14:46:00 - [23] Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 06/07/2008 14:45:08 Originally by: Quetl One thing i've always wondered is howcome theres many SCI-FI t.v series, but not many Fantasy ones (I cant actually think of one off the top of me noggin.) The large mass dont like fantasy I think, even though the success of The Lord of the Rings trilogy kind of argues against that... Ive seen some of Bewitched and it has magic, but its not really fantasy. Also its pretty bad and boring. Yea. Fantasy makes movies, but leave TV to sci-fi and anime. Please. I hate most of the quasi-fantasy crud they have on TV, at least when they have it (Which is like never)
Grulltan	Posted - 2008.07.06 14:47:00 - [24] Fantasy minus the dragons. Sci-fi minus the soap-opera. I like both equaly.
Mankirks Wife	Posted - 2008.07.06 14:53:00 - [25] Edited by: Mankirks Wife on 06/07/2008 14:54:55 Originally by: Antiquus Altercor Spaceships > will happen Magic > 'Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.' Arthur C. Clarke. I'll add that technology is the ONLY way you are going to get magic. Orcs, Dragons, restofthatcrap > not on this planet, however if you have a spaceship you may go looking for them..... This is true, but if you think the future will be anything like what modern sci-fi says it will I'd advise you to think again. 108 years ago people thought we'd deliver everything with a world-wide network of pneumatic tubes and the only viable aircraft would be military blimps. Not saying it won't happen but it'll be so different it may as well be orcs and magic spells for how accurate it will be - I've always thought of sci-fi as being something like fantasy in denial. Doesn't mean I don't appreciate good sci-fi of course though.
Kraleak Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.07.06 15:10:00 - [26] Originally by: Mankirks Wife Edited by: Mankirks Wife on 06/07/2008 14:57:03 world-wide network of pneumatic tubes THE FUTURE IS NOW D: Quote: Originally by: CCP Prism X omgomgomgomg....gag me with a SPOON! Quote: Originally by: CCP Prism X devs are tasty treats
Pr1ncess Alia Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.06 15:40:00 - [27] Originally by: Abrazzar I take them both: Goblins in Space FTW! Piiiiiiiigggsss Iiiiiiinnnnn Spaaaaaaaaaaaacccceee
Spoon Thumb Paladin Imperium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.06 15:45:00 - [28] See anime and manga is so appealing to me because it seems to flawlessly combine ideas about magic and supernatural with solid science fiction, more often than not in the modern day or near future Part of that reason is cultural and historical influences, and you don't have to dig very deep into any sci-fi or fantasy fiction to see the ideas of the time reflected in some way. (Arguably, the best stuff avoids this and as such becomes 'timeless'. With anime, once you see beyond the giant robots to the characters, their principles and even the way the scenarios are laid out, presented and carried through, you see them reflect and reinforce things to do with the target (Japanese) audience. Same as something like the TV series 'Heroes' ultimately slips into the whole American superhero formula, and equally something like '28 days later' is clearly aimed at a different audience to 'Resident Evil' f.e). There's also the whole thing to do with how different pieces of sci-fi and fantasy (within their own genres) work affect each other's content. That some ideas become so obvious and/or ingrained in the mind of both authors and audience, things somehow seem missing without them (giant robots again). That is why we have many of the stereotypes or set ideas about said genres that we do (Just as with a crime thriller it'd be very unusual to not have a crime or a detective or some sort of resolution at the end. And in fact the whole premise of a crime novel before you even open the book is based on this).
hall monitor	Posted - 2008.07.06 15:49:00 - [29] Edited by: hall monitor on 06/07/2008 15:48:47 Space faring colonization and possible future wars? Highly probable. Much of Sci-Fi becomes reality. I vote yes. Fantasy? Not probable and mostly supernaturalistically silly. No vote because it's mostly for little kids and girls still waiting for their knight in shining armor.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards	Posted - 2008.07.06 15:50:00 - [30] Dragons, knights, magic and castles are all fun but they can't beat the effectivness of a good old nuke

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