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linton strong	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:48:00 - [1] I know I'm going to get get flamed here, but I really don't care because there is a major issue that needs to be brought to light so CCP can start acting on insane inconsistancies and start bringing a part of balance to the eve universe we so much love and hate and yes you know what I mean. Anyone who knows anything about stealth ships knows first and formost that a ship of stealth should have a decisive advantage over any other ship it engages, including larger ships. A manticore is a T2 ship and therefore, because it is T2, should have a marked advantage of a T1 ship like a drake. If a manticore decloaks any T1 ship it encounters should be given a two minute penalty during which it cannot return fire, engage any defensive systems, or flee. Anyone who watches start trek knows that the sight of a klingon ship decloaking strikes fear into the heart of opponents. I know this is not star trek but hell the same should hold true if a manticore decloaks the opponent shoul dbe stunned into indecusssion or maybe given a saving throw to see if they can flee! but not fire back!
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:49:00 - [2] Awesome - DesuSigs
Tarminic 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:49:00 - [3] ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3)
Bleeshtar	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:50:00 - [4] Edited by: Bleeshtar on 07/07/2008 19:51:32 Originally by: linton strong first and formost that a ship of stealth should have a decisive advantage over any other ship it engages, ! Curious.... Still there is that one variable, the loose nut behind the wheel. Wait a minute did he actualy say 'a saving throw'?!
Chris Bartlett Caldari shadow and flame Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:51:00 - [5] I support this thread and/or the ops opinions, for the sole reason that hes a ******. I'm highly biased about most things, but it has nothing to do with the overall view of my corp or alliance
Tamia Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:51:00 - [6] Ninjas in space. Nao, CCP. Looking for queue-free research slots? Click here!
Thenoran Caldari Border Rim Enterprises	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:51:00 - [7] If a single Manticore could own a Drake, there would be 0 reason to fly anything but a Manticore, they are devastating in groups (imagine a group using bombs) and they can pop a frigate or destroyer just like that, they inturn pay for this ability by just being a frigate itself, so it cant tank a fly and has to rely on stealth and a bit of EWar to stay live. EVE != Star Trek EVE != Realism Also, if I manage to fire back on a Manticore, the Manticore pilot did something horribly horribly wrong (I fly a Rokh) ------------------------ Ore Depletion Calculator It's life Jim, but not as we know it
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:52:00 - [8] Originally by: Thenoran A Serious Answer For A Serious Thread - DesuSigs
Karanth Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:52:00 - [9] /Karanth administers Mind Bleach II! /Karanth makes a saving throw with Will to disbelieve! /Karanth rolls... natural 3! Total result: 6! /Karanth fails the saving throw to disbelieve!
Thenoran Caldari Border Rim Enterprises	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:53:00 - [10] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Thenoran A Serious Answer For A Serious Thread Someone has to do it ------------------------ Ore Depletion Calculator It's life Jim, but not as we know it
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:53:00 - [11] Originally by: Thenoran Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Thenoran A Serious Answer For A Serious Thread Someone has to do it True, true. - DesuSigs
Tarminic 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:54:00 - [12] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Thenoran Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Thenoran A Serious Answer For A Serious Thread Someone has to do it True, true. I already had my serious answer to bizarre question thread for today, I sure as hell wasn't going to. Kudos. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3)
Karanth Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:56:00 - [13] C-C-C-COMBOBREAKER!
linton strong	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:57:00 - [14] I knew no one would agree with me but i'm sure the people who are crying foul are drake pilots and not manticore pilos, who have every reason to feel slighted by CCP who lured us to believe that manticores would own the skies and turned out to be the flying trash cans of the galaxy. Manticore is T2, drake is T1, nuff said. Any mantiocre that decloaks on a T1 ship should be given a 2-3 minute advantage where the opponent is held immobile. like time stop or something.
Thenoran Caldari Border Rim Enterprises	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:57:00 - [15] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Thenoran Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Thenoran A Serious Answer For A Serious Thread Someone has to do it True, true. I already had my serious answer to bizarre question thread for today, I sure as hell wasn't going to. Kudos. Well I've done mine for the day You don't suppose our Manticore pilot mixed up KM with M when it comes to the distance you have to keep from the target? ------------------------ Ore Depletion Calculator It's life Jim, but not as we know it
Spoony G	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:58:00 - [16] Originally by: linton strong I know I'm going to get get flamed here, but I really don't care because there is a major issue that needs to be brought to light so CCP can start acting on insane inconsistancies and start bringing a part of balance to the eve universe we so much love and hate and yes you know what I mean. Anyone who knows anything about stealth ships knows first and formost that a ship of stealth should have a decisive advantage over any other ship it engages, including larger ships. A manticore is a T2 ship and therefore, because it is T2, should have a marked advantage of a T1 ship like a drake. If a manticore decloaks any T1 ship it encounters should be given a two minute penalty during which it cannot return fire, engage any defensive systems, or flee. Anyone who watches start trek knows that the sight of a klingon ship decloaking strikes fear into the heart of opponents. I know this is not star trek but hell the same should hold true if a manticore decloaks the opponent shoul dbe stunned into indecusssion or maybe given a saving throw to see if they can flee! but not fire back! Agree with OP on this one.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:58:00 - [17] Originally by: linton strong Any mantiocre that decloaks on a T1 ship should be given a 2-3 minute advantage where the opponent is held immobile. like time stop or something. So a Hammer Time module? - DesuSigs
Thenoran Caldari Border Rim Enterprises	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:58:00 - [18] Originally by: linton strong I knew no one would agree with me but i'm sure the people who are crying foul are drake pilots and not manticore pilos, who have every reason to feel slighted by CCP who lured us to believe that manticores would own the skies and turned out to be the flying trash cans of the galaxy. Manticore is T2, drake is T1, nuff said. Any mantiocre that decloaks on a T1 ship should be given a 2-3 minute advantage where the opponent is held immobile. like time stop or something. So a T2 Shuttle should own a T1 Titan? Wow....your logic is either very unique or extremely flawed... ------------------------ Ore Depletion Calculator It's life Jim, but not as we know it
Tippia Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:59:00 - [19] This is indeed a serious and age-old question, which demands a serious and age-old answer: Because you touch yourself at night.
scott trade	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:59:00 - [20] Agree with OP
LargePenis	Posted - 2008.07.07 20:00:00 - [21] Agree wtith OP
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.07.07 20:00:00 - [22] Scene : Bridge of the Enterprise Worf : Captain, a vessel is uncloaking on starboard ! Piccard : Indentification ? Data : Unknown origin and design. It appears to be roughly the size of a human head. Troy : I think we should run, captain... _ SUPPORT or CRITICIZE the issue of mineral and moon material balance !
AmarrCitizen20070912	Posted - 2008.07.07 20:00:00 - [23] Agree with the OP on this call.
Venduras	Posted - 2008.07.07 20:00:00 - [24] Disagree with OP
Mightymaxx	Posted - 2008.07.07 20:01:00 - [25] I, too, as a manticore pilot, agree with op
Mina Morticia	Posted - 2008.07.07 20:01:00 - [26] I agree with OP, too
Tarminic 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.07.07 20:02:00 - [27] Edited by: Tarminic on 07/07/2008 20:02:33 I have now determined that you are a troll. No one in EVE is that dumb. EDIT: I have now seen your wisdom! I agree with the OP, surely the time of the manticore is nigh! ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3)
Svargas Ktol	Posted - 2008.07.07 20:02:00 - [28] Agree with OP.
Tzujeih GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.07.07 20:02:00 - [29] Agree + thistle tea
Farrqua Minmatar Turbo Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.07.07 20:03:00 - [30] Edited by: Farrqua on 07/07/2008 20:03:05 Originally by: linton strong I knew no one would agree with me but i'm sure the people who are crying foul are drake pilots and not manticore pilos, who have every reason to feel slighted by CCP who lured us to believe that manticores would own the skies and turned out to be the flying trash cans of the galaxy. Manticore is T2, drake is T1, nuff said. Any mantiocre that decloaks on a T1 ship should be given a 2-3 minute advantage where the opponent is held immobile. like time stop or something. Drinking Bong water is bad mmmkay. Nice troll btw, you almost had me believing you were short of a brain stem.

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