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Zakarin
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Posted - 2008.07.08 21:41:00 -
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I remember about a year and half ago when I quit eve there were always tons of pirates hanging out in this forum and sharing stories, videos, kills, tips, whatever. Now it seems like all of that is gone.
Are there still any well known pirate corps? Do people still do the rove around and ransom ships, camp gates for isk?
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Amberfyre
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Posted - 2008.07.08 21:49:00 -
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Yup
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MarleWH
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Posted - 2008.07.08 21:55:00 -
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You mean shoot people? No way, everyone mines.
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doctorstupid2
The Accursed
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Posted - 2008.07.08 22:11:00 -
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 Originally by: MarleWH
You mean shoot people? No way, everyone mines.
Confrontation is scary, it's much more pleasant to suck rocks all day.
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Fedor Emilianenko
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Posted - 2008.07.08 22:25:00 -
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I'll stick my neck out here and break the combo by giving an honest reply. I think it has certainly degenerated alot in the oldskool 'roam low-sec' sense, which is something alot of the oldskoolers mourn the loss of.
That is not however to say that it has completely died out. I am though, personally of the opinion that the profession of piracy has been massively neglected. I know it's meant to be hard mode and I'm not after it being easier, I just want more pirate related content :D
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Gunner Cid
The Carebear Stare
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Posted - 2008.07.08 22:50:00 -
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I recently returned to the game after a break and I have found quite a bit changed.
It is rare to encounter another solo pilot, I am not talking about the 2 week old players ratting in a .3 space, but more of targets that would actually be fun to engage. If you happen to come accross a solo pilot 9/10 times if you check adjacent gates/systems with your cov ops alt you'll find he has friends waiting.
The game has definately shifted from small gang warfare into a large gang mentality most commonly using some form of baiting. Piracy is of course still there in the sense that there are -10s rolling around, it has just changed.
A lot of engagements follow a similar pattern of 2-4 players engage 1-3 players who in turn have buddies warp in/uncloak/undock w/e then the aggressing gang either dies or was just baiting the defending gangs friends into the fight so they can out blob them.
In short if you want to not die too much you have to roll around with a solid group, and dont forget to mix in a couple falcons, 1 to jam their gang and another with just caldarri racials to jam their 2-3 falcons.
Dont get me wrong though, this game is still a blast, just gotta adjust to the changes.
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Joe Starbreaker
AnTi.
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2008.07.08 23:06:00 -
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Well maybe Cranberry was right, maybe he was the last of the legendary pirates that made EVE what it was...
That, or maybe all the pirates are ninja salvaging at the moment. It's getting to be such a fad... salvage prices are dropping accordingly.
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Cal Sinai
The Accursed
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Posted - 2008.07.08 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Zakarin
I remember about a year and half ago when I quit eve there were always tons of pirates hanging out in this forum and sharing stories, videos, kills, tips, whatever. Now it seems like all of that is gone.
The problem isn't a lack of pirates, it's the forum full of Garmon-tards that now pollute the area.
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Fedor Emilianenko
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Posted - 2008.07.08 23:28:00 -
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For my part I still enjoy piracy, but when it comes to rock paper scissors, it's just not a great deal of fun to see who can bring the most of each to each fight :(
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Redback911
Malevolent Intentions
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Posted - 2008.07.08 23:33:00 -
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Piracy is very much alive and well in the bleaks. Factional warfare has brought lots and lots of targets.
Most fun we've ever had pirating tbh.
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Lars Lodar
Induseng Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.07.09 00:50:00 -
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In my area, piracy is alive and well. Lots of competition as well as plenty of anti-pies and random targets. Over just 4 systems we managed to kill at least a dozen ships/pods, 1 successful ransom, a couple faction mods, and a firetail BPC. We also didn't loose any ships in our gang of 4 which is always a plus.
Everyone is right about the baiting and falcon tactics which is rather annoying but if you play things smart and get to know the region locals before committing your better ships, you can usually size people up pretty well.
Having a lot of intel as well a few decisive victories will usually earn the grudging respect and fear of local pirates and anti-pirates alike.
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Drokar Gazer
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2008.07.09 01:36:00 -
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It is easy to say that piracy doesnt exist from the safety of high sec... do a bit of roaming and you will find plenty of pirates. Most pirates today exist because they were sick of claiming space in 0.0 and wanted to return to the smaller roaming gangs and away from the blobs.
There are still old school pirates out there... just harder to see because they are spread out and you have to actually enter low sec to find them. With faction warfare, many people are busy on alts as well...
Piracy is alive and well...
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Rawrior
Gallente
Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2008.07.09 01:40:00 -
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WTB warp to 15 \o/
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Omae Gaw'd
Gallente
VMF-214 Blacksheep
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Posted - 2008.07.09 01:46:00 -
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Lars speaks the truth.
Tbh, piracy is still there. Though a lot less than before, and I'm not that old. And fights happening are mostly pirates vs pirates, sorta.
Because of the new "mentality", everyone might have gotten a bit more shy about fighting. You have to take a lot of time to gather intel to avoid painful reality checks. It's a game of outsmarting, it's always been. And if you're getting blobbed/falcon'd, well you just been outsmarted too, sad and true.
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Sin Fae
Income Redistribution Service
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Posted - 2008.07.09 01:54:00 -
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The "good ole" belt piracy is pretty much gone. I have also noticed a shift in victims.
Victims are less vocal. I don't know if this is evolution from other MMOs but my hatemail of death threats, put your head in an oven, etc has gone down I'd say 90%, and my wallet has increased by about the same.
With low-sec dead here is what I see on the other two areas, and it is similar (just different in scale)
In empire space:
This has evolved to exthorting (with wardec) entire 100 person+ corps for a relativly small (but individually large) sum of around 100mil on average from a one or two person corp. It's a very shadowy business and very political, and pays very well. But, take the experience and tactics of a couple old-skool low sec belters coupled with the new ships and fittings, and a couple pirates can obliterate, (slaughter really) ANY blob of 10-30 ships they encounter.
In 0.0:
Take those same old-skool belters, give them powerful ships and even more skills, they can annhilate any alliance roamer gang. And, with 0.0 Alliance mega-blobs and cap ships, big alliance blobs are getting slower and slower, with agile pirate gangs waiting/hiding out the blob and striking faster than the blob. So a moderately sized pirate corp can control an area of space as nomads without being burdened by a large logistical footprint using NPC outposts.
My warped take really. In summary victims are keeping their mouth shut more, pirates are becoming more political, and low-sec camping/sniping/ganking has been nerfed to oblivion. Even ore-theiving has been nerfed from pro-miners with 10 accounts sucking empire right after uptime, and a ore barge that has the cargo space of a jet-can.
The only honest empire pirating nowadays that makes headlines is suicide ganking which is staring at a nerf bat also.
<shrug> my 2 isk
(plug)
For a good pirate read check out the Taxman Chronicles for some good 'ole piracy.
~S~
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UberNero
The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.07.09 02:02:00 -
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I solo pirate mostly (in a taranis or my shit-fit Thorax)
As a semi-new player (under 4 mil SP still about 1 mil in industrial related endeavours /me smacks forehead) It can be tough at times, isk isnt great as well, although if i get one or two ransoms per day+ salvage from wrecks i can turn a meager profit at times, although loosing a ship more than twice a week can severally put a damper on things. Still fun though.
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Tai Paktu
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.07.09 02:36:00 -
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Originally by: Zakarin
Are there still any well known pirate corps? Do people still do the rove around and ransom ships, camp gates for isk?
Nope. All gates into low sec are now clear of all camps. Carebears should feel free to bring officer fit CNRs and Nightmare's into said low sec as well as unscouted freighters and haulers. Cloaks and MWDs are no longer required.
There are no pirates.
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VicturusTeSaluto
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.07.09 03:46:00 -
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Piracy is still alive and kicking, changes to the game have just made it progressively harder.
The FW superblobbing in low sec has calmed down a bit, so piracy should be picking up again.
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Rev Fernie
Logical Progression
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Posted - 2008.07.09 07:45:00 -
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Edited by: Rev Fernie on 09/07/2008 07:45:13
I and my new Corp have just hooked up with some well know pirates, having decided to forget about 0.0 politics and boring POS wars.
It is not what I expected but the general opinion it is the most fun we have had in EVE so far.
IMO Piracey is now all about:
Probing Mission Runners
Who's got the most Falcons
Not hanging around in one place for to long
Getting blobbed *Waves to GIS*
Getting baited *Waves to Q-S*
Baiting
Ninja Gate Camping
Being smart
Blasterthrons 
Not seen to much ransoming yet TBH
As far as roaming goes, I notice more targets seem to come to us now we are Out Laws living in an Out Law Community. In fact we roamed Black Rise last ngiht and didn't see anywhere near as many targets as you'd expect.
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Gilgamesh1980
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2008.07.09 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: Tai Paktu
Originally by: Zakarin
Are there still any well known pirate corps? Do people still do the rove around and ransom ships, camp gates for isk?
Nope. All gates into low sec are now clear of all camps. Carebears should feel free to bring officer fit CNRs and Nightmare's into said low sec as well as unscouted freighters and haulers. Cloaks and MWDs are no longer required.
There are no pirates.
what he said.
I think the problem is that piracy tends to be quite seasonable, priates have to evolve when new mechanics come into EVE< and the ones who stay behind have a hard time to make money anymore.
I do have to say though that a lot of losec regions seem to be dropping in activity and profitable targets.
over the last days two fleets disptched for a nice old roam in losec, one went towards goinard form Oulley, and the a roam yesterday in the placid region.
the Goinard area was pretty dead until one stage we actiallly had a 50 man GC sitting on the other side, we were 24, so a nice small gang. we jumped through and wanted to engage them and they ran away, it was really surprising, just goign by the numbers they shoudl of had the upper hand, kind of put it down to the Blinky red thing when 24 ships appear on the overview, flashy like a disco. and this was apparently also a FW hotspot, but no encounter.
Placid was weird too, about 6 months ago there were corps in that area that server our arses to us on a plate, but this time? nothing, we got hell of a lot of kills within a short time, but compared to a few months back, it was dead. NOrmally full of faction ships and good PvPers but nothing in this case.
also a lot of the Pirate corps have probably suffered the most after the Big alliances, in terms of people leaving them to 'try' FW. so many of the known Pirate alliances have crumbled to a small number, and I know this from how wel lthe recruitment has been goign for our alliance, sometimes gettign 10 to 12 people form a single corp applying at the same time, and staying there.
Pirates also don't stay in the same region for long anymore, like in the days, you woudl have a known pirate corp in one area, and they woudl be the underdogs, causing pain for eveyone there.
Thhese days, they don't do that either.
ah, where are the days, when a CNR woudl come through the gates at least three times a day to be removed from existence
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Mika Meroko
Minmatar
Crayon Posting Inc
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Posted - 2008.07.09 08:01:00 -
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nar, everybody is in faction warfare blobs for the pew pew...
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Sidephex
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2008.07.09 08:08:00 -
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Originally by: Gilgamesh1980
we jumped through and wanted to engage them and they ran away, it was really surprising, just goign by the numbers they shoudl of had the upper hand, kind of put it down to the Blinky red thing when 24 ships appear on the overview, flashy like a disco.
this seems to happen a lot lately.
other than that, there still are pirate entities out there. but it seems to get less, yea..
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kublai
Caldari
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.07.09 08:30:00 -
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I'm dead, it's true, confirmed.
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Garan Savlar
Gallente
Twilight Operations
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Posted - 2008.07.09 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Tai Paktu
Originally by: Zakarin
Are there still any well known pirate corps? Do people still do the rove around and ransom ships, camp gates for isk?
Nope. All gates into low sec are now clear of all camps. Carebears should feel free to bring officer fit CNRs and Nightmare's into said low sec as well as unscouted freighters and haulers. Cloaks and MWDs are no longer required.
There are no pirates.
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Yatta I
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Posted - 2008.07.09 12:03:00 -
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I saw some CONCORDs podding piracy last night :x
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Spectre3353
Gallente
The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.07.09 14:40:00 -
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Hi Lars and Uber.
Pirating is certainly not dead. I have no idea what it was like years or even months ago because I am a fairly new pilot myself, but I have found plenty of action since I started my pirating life. Here are some examples of what I mean:
http://evenewb.blogspot.com/
What? This is a shameless plug to my blog? So what... screw you guys for judging.
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http://evenewb.blogspot.com/
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Triksterism
Gallente
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Coalition of the Chillin
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Posted - 2008.07.09 16:33:00 -
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Piracy, as mentioned before, is definitely not dead. However, yes it has changed quite a bit. I really really really miss the old days when I could roam around solo and not have to worry about a giant WTFPWN gang jumping me for hitting their bait.
There are next to no miners in lowesec anymore, no ratters for the most part. So most of it is gate/station camping or scanning people down in missions. I really miss the piratey times from about 1-2 years ago :(
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Apoctasy
The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.07.09 16:37:00 -
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Yarring in Metropolis and Lonetrek is still alive and well.
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Gerard deRidefort
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Posted - 2008.07.09 16:42:00 -
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Honestly, Piracy was killed of by the huge influx of immature smack talking griefers who call themselves pirates, all the honest pirates have left or moved to the background.
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.07.09 16:56:00 -
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Familiarize yourself with your local 0.0 alliance's empire pipeline.
0.0 ->low sec -> high sec
Just remember 3 golden rules to piracy...
Always assume you will be blobbed (have an escape plan ready).
Always assume the enemy will bring ecm.
Always provoke hilarious nerd rage!
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Sup brosef!
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