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Shaikar Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2008.07.14 01:27:00 - [91] Originally by: Bob T'Miner Firstly I congratulate your skill at reading comprehension. You have out classed many who have replied here. ... As you can see in this thread there are many people who are anti-social. Also, you appear to be confusing "antisocial" with "have the gall to disagree with my infallible opinion".
Ma'kal Caldari SUNDERING Zenith Affinity	Posted - 2008.07.14 01:30:00 - [92] Personally if people quit Eve because that is fine with me. I can have more space :)
Doc Fury	Posted - 2008.07.14 01:44:00 - [93] Originally by: Khatred So like, mmmm, what's worse here, OP jumping to conclusions or the rabid fanbois? The fanbois.. People who jump to conclusions always have a chance to redeem themselves, and will usually concede when confronted with factual information. The beginning was the end (of everything) The Ape regards his tail, (he's stuck on it) Repeats until he fails..half a goon and half a god.. a man's not made of steel...
Jinx Barker GFB Scientific	Posted - 2008.07.14 02:05:00 - [94] We are all DOOOMMMMEEEED, DOOOOOMMMMMEEEEDDDD I tell you - thats because OP says so.
PewPewLePewPew	Posted - 2008.07.14 02:09:00 - [95] So let me get this straight. You buy gas at the same price every different place you go? Thats what I thought.
DarthGeddes	Posted - 2008.07.14 02:31:00 - [96] If $5 a month is so terrible... Go play World of Warcrap. Simple.
Tarminic 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.07.14 03:03:00 - [97] Originally by: Doc Fury People who jump to conclusions always have a chance to redeem themselves, and will usually concede when confronted with factual information. Are we talking about the same people here? ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3)
Doc Fury	Posted - 2008.07.14 03:08:00 - [98] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Doc Fury People who jump to conclusions always have a chance to redeem themselves, and will usually concede when confronted with factual information. Are we talking about the same people here? Hey Tar! Yeah, it's a stretch, but Fanbois are fanatics if only by definition... The beginning was the end (of everything) The Ape regards his tail, (he's stuck on it) Repeats until he fails..half a goon and half a god.. a man's not made of steel...

CCP Mitnal C C P	Posted - 2008.07.14 03:49:00 - [99] Moved to OOPE. Mitnal Community Representative CCP Games, EVE Online Email / Netfang

Hyveres Caldari	Posted - 2008.07.14 05:07:00 - [100] Edited by: Hyveres on 14/07/2008 05:09:38 Might just be me and those I play with but unlike when I played WoW the majority of those I talk to(in fact every single one) actually works for a living. And 3 months of eve paid for with a credit card is something like 1-4 hours of work depending on what country and what kind of income bracket you belong to. Tbh compared to games where I have to pay in Euro like WoW eve is incredibly cheap. "I dont need facts when I have the truth"
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated	Posted - 2008.07.14 06:13:00 - [101] Yay one less person crowding eve.
Adira Mollari	Posted - 2008.07.14 11:24:00 - [102] Whats the comparison to paying via credit card vs GTC ?
Slade Trillgon Siorai Iontach Brotherhood of the Spider	Posted - 2008.07.14 13:36:00 - [103] Originally by: Banana Torres ffs Just sell another pint of blood and get over it. Wins the thread. By the way peak time yesterday I saw 39,000 acounts logged when I came online. Not much of a drop...it was Sunday afternoon though. Slade "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self"
Buxaroo Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.07.14 16:22:00 - [104] Edited by: Buxaroo on 14/07/2008 16:24:31 Originally by: Bob T'Miner So let me get this straight. 60 day card of World of Warcraft is $30 USD. It has over 10 million active accounts. 60 day code for Eve Online is $35 USD. It has(read had) 300 thousand active accounts. We pay $5 more because it is a "Premium" product. So Eve is Premium over World of Warcraft.....debateable. Price of codes has gone up. Many online retailers of the codes are back-ordered or never got the new codes. Supply and demand means the codes that are available to buy for isk are inflated. CCP stands behind marketing's decision. Summer means people playing less, in-game economy suffers. Less market activity means less isk available to buy timecodes. Now people close extra active accounts they cannot/will not pay for with isk. Number of active accounts take a nosedive. In-game economy suffers further. Gameplay suffers for low income players find a harder time. Now credit card customers decide to go back to WoW because it has pleanty of people to play with and costs less. All of this means a dramatic drop in active accounts over the next 4 to 6 months. CCP takes the loss, continues to stand behind marketing, and tries to make it work with a shrinking player base. Perhaps the smaller player base will make the game even more "premium". GG CCP consider my accounts closed. No you can't have my stuff. lol. So you don't want to play EVE and go back to World of Wartards because it costs a grand total of $2.50 more a month......LOL. Good riddance. EDIT: And comparing EVE with WoW is like comparing a Ferrari with a Ford Escort.
Bob T'Miner	Posted - 2008.07.14 16:39:00 - [105] Thank you for a real post Ra Vhim. Lets see where we may have some common ground: Originally by: Ra Vhim Pretty much everything is debatable. If you donÆt think Eve is a premium, then so be it. Why you would doubt that I do not know since you have not explained yourself. It was perhaps a mistake to put this section in. I did it out of outrage that they would spin such BS as to tell us the $5 was because Eve is "premium". I'm sure Blizzard, SOE, Mythic, etc. all think thier monthly subscription MMOs are a premium product. I have learned after posting this that the increase was to offset the less money they take in per code for retailer's cut. If they said that in the first place I don't know of anyone that would have been upset. Originally by: Ra Vhim Where do you get this information about nosedives and a suffering in-game economy? This was a projection based on 3 years of economics classes. I admited it was a theory from the outset. I have sence learned CCP expects this also but they expect the trend to be minor. Considering they have the subscription details I will take this at face value. Originally by: Ra Vhim Again, where do you get your information that credit card customers go back to WoW? Do you have a source the rest of us donÆt have? Or are credit card customers = you? I meant CC customers also would leave if they found the game no longer fun. I admit there was alot of assumption here. Originally by: Ra Vhim You seem to state an obvious fact about a dramatic drop in the coming 4-6 months. What do you base this upon? Are you qualified to make such estimations? Also, if your divinations come to be true, how do you know how CCP will act? Inside source? Again, CCP has already admitted this will happen. they project a small loss. Again they have the nubers so I admit I overestimated the number of alt accounts being paid for by isk for cards. Originally by: Ra Vhim Irony, yes, I got that. Tell me, what does premium mean for you? You have not even touched that in your post. Is premium = cheapest product? I think it more appropriate to ask what does premium mean to CCP Marketing? Is it a scapegoat word to mean "I don't think you deserve or can handle a straight answer so I will spew complete BS at you"? Originally by: Ra Vhim Yes, I agree that it can be tough for new players. I have found plenty of social people in Eve, though. Perhaps people are just anti-social around you? LOL No mostly on these boards were peope read a portion of a topic and think they need to insert some inane off-topic one-liner that doesn't contribute to the discussion. Originally by: Ra Vhim If they think the same thing as I is fun, then they should have no problem having fun. My first character, made 2006, joined 0.0 and started PvPing after 5 days in game. I had plenty of fun. Sounds great! Would you consider your experience to be common? Originally by: Ra Vhim Firstly I must congratulate you on smoothly insulting many who posted in this thread while congratulating someone. You are the kind of social player Eve needs more of. Comment was aimed at those posting with no value to the thread (see above). If that was you then so be it. Yes I am a smart ass. Your one too. I can live with that, can you? Originally by: Ra Vhim Yeah, tell me about it. Though I suspect most people have read whining threads similar to this many times over, which can be a reason why they donÆt throw flowers at you. While I didn't expect flowers maybe, reading the thread before posting was also too much to ask. Originally by: Ra Vhim I wouldnÆt go so far as to make it sounds Eve only have damn nice people.. But it is nice to see that you are receptive to people opinions, even if it differs from your. Many think life is a ***** when people disagree. I mean, why respond to a post if you donÆt agree! Indeed. I expected to be flamed. I hoped that some actually took the time to read the thread. I wasn't disappointed.
Bob T'Miner	Posted - 2008.07.14 16:42:00 - [106] Here is the real story from CCP: Linkage To back up my last post.
Bob T'Miner	Posted - 2008.07.14 16:44:00 - [107] Originally by: Buxaroo I did not read the thread but HAD to post anyway. There you go, fixed it for you.
Cmdr Sy Appetite 4 Destruction Clown Punchers Syndicate	Posted - 2008.07.14 20:57:00 - [108] $5 doesn't buy much these days anyway. Big deal if another MMO subscription is cheaper. It is like complaining about apples costing more than oranges. Spaceships =/= Orcs. EVE CCG Trinity Booster
Bob T'Miner	Posted - 2008.07.14 21:07:00 - [109] Originally by: Cmdr Sy I didn't feel it nessisary to read the entire thread but I felt a need to post. Did I score a point on the OP? There you go, fixed it for you.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.07.14 21:11:00 - [110] <random meaningless one-liner> This reminds me of the people that demand a 10 cent refund when theres extended downtime </random meaningless one-liner>
RedClaws Amarr Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.07.14 22:35:00 - [111] According to that chart something called dofus is doing way better than eve... I looked it up, dear god, how the heck did they get that many subscribers?
Malcanis We are Legend	Posted - 2008.07.14 22:57:00 - [112] Originally by: RedClaws According to that chart something called dofus is doing way better than eve... I looked it up, dear god, how the heck did they get that many subscribers? No-one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the general public. Now who wants a nice hot mug of elitism? CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
nahtoh Caldari StrikerCorp	Posted - 2008.07.14 23:35:00 - [113] Originally by: Fabien Aldric Originally by: nahtoh Originally by: Bob T'Miner Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Bob T'Miner CCP is in Iceland not Europe. Iceland is a European country. My ignorance. Fine. Now support why the increase in price (I will grant you exchange rates) has caused the timecode options to be reduced to one, and why the increase in price has caused CCP to backorder the timecodes. Or is this not your argument? You certainly mentioned it. Did you have one beyond European Union membership? The servers however are in London... And Iceland isn't in the EU. ITT: Dumb american's who don't understand how the world economy works complaining about internet spaceships economy. Who said I was in the USA dumbass? The servers being out side of Iceland would suggest to me that UKs standard of living and operating costs need to be factored into CCPs prices. And was I complaining about the prices? Hers a hint NO!!!!! ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Araxmas Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.07.15 00:43:00 - [114] Mmmmm nice stable montly debit card bill. No change, not fuss. -------- derek
Aiden Bismuth Gallente Die Boeremag	Posted - 2008.07.15 06:24:00 - [115] Originally by: Adira Mollari Whats the comparison to paying via credit card vs GTC ? I first bought a 30-day ETC just before my trial period expired. This just before the 60-day GTC/ETC came out. When my account was up for renewal, I changed to a credit card subscription, and paid for one month. This was a bit cheaper than the 60-day GTC/ETC. I will re-evaluate when my subscription is up for renewal at the end of this month, will probably change it to a 3-month subscription then, though. AB
Ryan Scouse'UK omen. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.07.15 09:16:00 - [116] Wow is better then eve I think! :) no EVE related content in signature. ~Weatherman
Calvin Firenze Minmatar Thanos and Killjoy Productions	Posted - 2008.07.15 10:49:00 - [117] Originally by: Frug We were all new once. Most of us have not been playing since beta. We were all "have nots" once. Some people whined and complained, were generally inept, and/or completely failed to break into this community. The rest of us managed, and now feel entitled to say what we want. And we are entitled to do so. Suck it. I expected a serious reply and ended up laughing. Cheers I can't post a serious reply to this thread without saying "go back to wow" thereby nullifying any seriousness I had intended. Just pay for a year at a shot and quit *****ing. It was $141 for a year for me, and that's how I paid for all of my accounts. Comes out to $11.75 a month for eve.
KingsGambit Caldari Knights	Posted - 2008.07.15 13:36:00 - [118] I don't think anyone can say or predict anything about the MMO market until Warhammer Online comes out. Sorta like how the Gregorian calendar uses Jesus' birth as reference, the Internet and MMOs shall be measured as Before-WHO and AprTs-WHO -------------

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