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Bhaal Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.07.14 16:40:00 - [31] Originally by: The TX Originally by: Bhaal And I don't pray, that's just a silly thing to do. That is just an opinion, and one that may upset a lot of people - watch what you saying. I'm not religious at all really, and even I can see how that may be seen as offensive. I guess I meant praying for lower gas prices is silly. It's a man-made problem you're asking GOD to solve for you. If you look in the dictionary for ignorance, you'd see a picture of a bunch of ppl paying for lower gas prices... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE
Kirala Hcsirf	Posted - 2008.07.14 16:57:00 - [32] Yeah, praying for lower gas prices is the same thing as * Doing a rain dance to save the crops or * Refusing to get a blood transfusion because you think God doesn't like blood transfusions or * Erecting a totem pole in your yard, or * Wearing an 'evil eye' pendant to ward off curses, or * Not having a 13th story on a bldg, or * Not taking your kid to the doctor when they have a high fever because you believe God will provide or, frankly, * not eating pork, or shellfish, or meat and cheese on the same plate or Fish on Friday (or, whatever) because you think God said so a long time ago... It's all stinkin' ridiculous. People just need to get off their duffs, think for themselves, and not rely on silly superstitions. Unless, of course, it's the FSM. Which is just as valid as any of those other gods.
Arvald Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.07.14 17:06:00 - [33] Originally by: Kirala Hcsirf Yeah, praying for lower gas prices is the same thing as * Doing a rain dance to save the crops or * Refusing to get a blood transfusion because you think God doesn't like blood transfusions or * Erecting a totem pole in your yard, or * Wearing an 'evil eye' pendant to ward off curses, or * Not having a 13th story on a bldg, or * Not taking your kid to the doctor when they have a high fever because you believe God will provide or, frankly, * not eating pork, or shellfish, or meat and cheese on the same plate or Fish on Friday (or, whatever) because you think God said so a long time ago... It's all stinkin' ridiculous. People just need to get off their duffs, think for themselves, and not rely on silly superstitions. Unless, of course, it's the FSM. Which is just as valid as any of those other gods. people pray to a god and folow a religion becasue they are too lazy to get up and think for themselves, they need someone to tell them waht to belive and how to think. hell teh otehr day a friend of mine was **ed off because i mentioned somthing about how the moon may have been created billions of years back and practically started screaming that the earth is only 6k years old... Originally by:** Siddy APERANTLY GEED PEE VEE PEE PLAYAS!!111 im in your forums, derailing your threads
Bhaal Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.07.14 17:12:00 - [34] Edited by: Bhaal on 14/07/2008 17:17:09 Quote: hell teh otehr day a friend of mine was ****ed off because i mentioned somthing about how the moon may have been created billions of years back and practically started screaming that the earth is only 6k years old... I would seriously tell him he can either start using the brain his so called "GOD" gave him or he can find another friend. That's seriously whacked. 6k? I could not stand to have a friend who thought that way... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE
Arvald Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.07.14 17:13:00 - [35] Edited by: Arvald on 14/07/2008 17:13:12 Originally by: Bhaal Quote: hell teh otehr day a friend of mine was **ed off because i mentioned somthing about how the moon may have been created billions of years back and practically started screaming that the earth is only 6k years old... I would seriously tell your him he can either start using the brain his so called "GOD" gave him or he can find another friend. That's seriously whacked. 6k? I could not stand to have a friend who thought that way... only reason i stand him is because he actually gives me a challenge in fps games Originally by:** Siddy APERANTLY GEED PEE VEE PEE PLAYAS!!111 im in your forums, derailing your threads
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.07.14 17:15:00 - [36] Originally by: Arvald Edited by: Arvald on 14/07/2008 17:13:12 Originally by: Bhaal Quote: hell teh otehr day a friend of mine was ****ed off because i mentioned somthing about how the moon may have been created billions of years back and practically started screaming that the earth is only 6k years old... I would seriously tell your him he can either start using the brain his so called "GOD" gave him or he can find another friend. That's seriously whacked. 6k? I could not stand to have a friend who thought that way... only reason i stand him is because he actually gives me a challenge in fps games Show him a dinosaur fossil, it's like kryptonite to those guys.
Arvald Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.07.14 17:17:00 - [37] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Arvald Edited by: Arvald on 14/07/2008 17:13:12 Originally by: Bhaal Quote: hell teh otehr day a friend of mine was **ed off because i mentioned somthing about how the moon may have been created billions of years back and practically started screaming that the earth is only 6k years old... I would seriously tell your him he can either start using the brain his so called "GOD" gave him or he can find another friend. That's seriously whacked. 6k? I could not stand to have a friend who thought that way... only reason i stand him is because he actually gives me a challenge in fps games Show him a dinosaur fossil, it's like kryptonite to those guys. hahahahahahaha brilliant Originally by:** Siddy APERANTLY GEED PEE VEE PEE PLAYAS!!111 im in your forums, derailing your threads
Slade Trillgon Siorai Iontach Brotherhood of the Spider	Posted - 2008.07.14 17:18:00 - [38] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Slade Trillgon P.S. I hope that they carpooled Slade Oh I'm sure they all gathered on the latter day saints short bus I thought that praying to god for reduced gas prices was funny but saying that they're actually doing something as opposed to us 'hipocrits' was even funnier. I'll have to keep up on this story and see if prayer and horrible singing actually changes anything. Oh and I also left out that my manager switched me from 5 8's to 4 10's so that we have one less day to travel to work thus saving more gas. Yeah my friend/landlords company is about to switch them to work from home. Boy am I **ed...well I can not be **ed considering my job can not be done out of my place of living . P.S. Laterday Saints Short Bus.... LMAO!!!! Slade "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self"
Bhaal Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.07.14 17:19:00 - [39] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Arvald Edited by: Arvald on 14/07/2008 17:13:12 Originally by: Bhaal Quote: hell teh otehr day a friend of mine was ****ed off because i mentioned somthing about how the moon may have been created billions of years back and practically started screaming that the earth is only 6k years old... I would seriously tell your him he can either start using the brain his so called "GOD" gave him or he can find another friend. That's seriously whacked. 6k? I could not stand to have a friend who thought that way... only reason i stand him is because he actually gives me a challenge in fps games Show him a dinosaur fossil, it's like kryptonite to those guys. That does not work for the hardiest of the creationist folk... It's amazing what they can justify to themselves and others suffering from the same mental disorder. ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE
Arvald Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.07.14 17:21:00 - [40] Originally by: Bhaal Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Arvald Edited by: Arvald on 14/07/2008 17:13:12 Originally by: Bhaal Quote: hell teh otehr day a friend of mine was **ed off because i mentioned somthing about how the moon may have been created billions of years back and practically started screaming that the earth is only 6k years old... I would seriously tell your him he can either start using the brain his so called "GOD" gave him or he can find another friend. That's seriously whacked. 6k? I could not stand to have a friend who thought that way... only reason i stand him is because he actually gives me a challenge in fps games Show him a dinosaur fossil, it's like kryptonite to those guys. That does not work for the hardiest of the creationist folk... It's amazing what they can justify to themselves and others suffering from the same mental disorder. also for those of you peopel who do belive in god if a god is willing to fight evil but not able then he is not omnipotent if he is able to fight evil but not willing then he is malevolent if he is both willing and able to fight evil when from when cometh evil? and if he is neither willing nor able then why call him a god Originally by:** Siddy APERANTLY GEED PEE VEE PEE PLAYAS!!111 im in your forums, derailing your threads
I'm RickJames	Posted - 2008.07.14 17:29:00 - [41] Originally by: Arvald people pray to a god and folow a religion becasue they are too lazy to get up and think for themselves, they need someone to tell them waht to belive and how to think. hell teh otehr day a friend of mine was ****ed off because i mentioned somthing about how the moon may have been created billions of years back and practically started screaming that the earth is only 6k years old... Where do you live? It would be odd if you lived in a society built around laws and customs introduced by religions.
Arvald Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.07.14 17:29:00 - [42] Edited by: Arvald on 14/07/2008 17:30:51 Originally by: I'm RickJames Originally by: Arvald people pray to a god and folow a religion becasue they are too lazy to get up and think for themselves, they need someone to tell them waht to belive and how to think. hell teh otehr day a friend of mine was **ed off because i mentioned somthing about how the moon may have been created billions of years back and practically started screaming that the earth is only 6k years old... Where do you live? It would be odd if you lived in a society built around laws and customs introduced by religions. utah actually, ive seen the worst that religion has to offer (litteraly being beat unprovoked to the point of being in the hospital) for not beliving in the same thing as the dominant religion in this state Originally by:** Siddy APERANTLY GEED PEE VEE PEE PLAYAS!!111 im in your forums, derailing your threads
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.07.14 17:33:00 - [43] Originally by: Arvald utah actually Oh I'm sorry. I heard they lifted the bikini ban at least.
Arvald Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.07.14 17:34:00 - [44] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Arvald utah actually Oh I'm sorry. I heard they lifted the bikini ban at least. , dont get me wrong i frigging LOVE it here, mountains lakes rivers hell even a desert the county is so much fun, but god dammit i cant stand most of the people -_- Originally by: Siddy APERANTLY GEED PEE VEE PEE PLAYAS!!111 im in your forums, derailing your threads
I'm RickJames	Posted - 2008.07.14 17:36:00 - [45] Originally by: Arvald also for those of you peopel who do belive in god if a god is willing to fight evil but not able then he is not omnipotent if he is able to fight evil but not willing then he is malevolent if he is both willing and able to fight evil when from when cometh evil? and if he is neither willing nor able then why call him a god Coincidentally, there was just a post about people who have questions should do some Google searching first before posting. Just do a minimal Google search and you can find your answers backed by various in-depth theologies. Just pick one and read. Many theologies are different.
Slade Trillgon Siorai Iontach Brotherhood of the Spider	Posted - 2008.07.14 17:37:00 - [46] Originally by: Arvald utah actually, Seen the movie SLC Punk (Salt Lake City Punk)...good stuffs...I always wondered if the underground scene was really that close to my city's underground scene. Sorry for the derail. Slade "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self"
Arvald Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.07.14 17:39:00 - [47] Originally by: Slade Trillgon Originally by: Arvald utah actually, Seen the movie SLC Punk (Salt Lake City Punk)...good stuffs...I always wondered if the underground scene was really that close to my city's underground scene. Sorry for the derail. Slade in all honesty i dont get out much so i have no idea Originally by: Siddy APERANTLY GEED PEE VEE PEE PLAYAS!!111 im in your forums, derailing your threads
I'm RickJames	Posted - 2008.07.14 17:39:00 - [48] Originally by: Arvald utah actually, ive seen the worst that religion has to offer (litteraly being beat unprovoked to the point of being in the hospital) for not beliving in the same thing as the dominant religion in this state The fact you live in the US, means you are just what you preach religious people to be. You are under the constraint of the laws of this society which are Judaeo-Christianity based.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.07.14 17:40:00 - [49] Originally by: I'm RickJames Many theologies are different. That's one of the main problem with religion. Don't like the set of rules your church provides, branch off and change them and tell people that what god decrees. Quote: God Decrees that we shall drink heavily and pertain massive orgies at the house of Dietrich for his will be done twice at night and again in the morning. See how easy that was.
Arvald Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.07.14 17:42:00 - [50] Originally by: I'm RickJames Originally by: Arvald utah actually, ive seen the worst that religion has to offer (litteraly being beat unprovoked to the point of being in the hospital) for not beliving in the same thing as the dominant religion in this state The fact you live in the US, means you are just what you preach religious people to be. You are under the constraint of the laws of this society which are Judaeo-Christianity based. no just means i haven't been caught yet Originally by: Siddy APERANTLY GEED PEE VEE PEE PLAYAS!!111 im in your forums, derailing your threads
Arvald Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.07.14 17:43:00 - [51] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: I'm RickJames Many theologies are different. That's one of the main problem with religion. Don't like the set of rules your church provides, branch off and change them and tell people that what god decrees. Quote: God Decrees that we shall drink heavily and pertain massive orgies at the house of Dietrich for his will be done twice at night and again in the morning. See how easy that was. ALL HAIL THE CHURCH OF DIETRICH Originally by: Siddy APERANTLY GEED PEE VEE PEE PLAYAS!!111 im in your forums, derailing your threads
Ultin Harvor	Posted - 2008.07.14 17:46:00 - [52] Edited by: Ultin Harvor on 14/07/2008 17:46:51 Originally by: Arvald Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: I'm RickJames Many theologies are different. That's one of the main problem with religion. Don't like the set of rules your church provides, branch off and change them and tell people that what god decrees. Quote: God Decrees that we shall drink heavily and pertain massive orgies at the house of Dietrich for his will be done twice at night and again in the morning. See how easy that was. ALL HAIL THE CHURCH OF DIETRICH Amen to that and a prayer for all of us. Incendentally, where did the word Amen come from? Anyone know? EDIT: BS answers welcomed and lol'd at.
Bhaal Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.07.14 17:49:00 - [53] Edited by: Bhaal on 14/07/2008 17:50:02 Quote: Incendentally, where did the word Amen come from? Anyone know? Amen I of course prefer: "So Say We All!" ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE
Arvald Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.07.14 17:51:00 - [54] Originally by: Bhaal Edited by: Bhaal on 14/07/2008 17:50:02 Quote: Incendentally, where did the word Amen come from? Anyone know? Amen I of course prefer: "So Say We All!" i prefer "SHUT THE HELL UP IM TRYING TO SLEEP"......but then thats just me Originally by: Siddy APERANTLY GEED PEE VEE PEE PLAYAS!!111 im in your forums, derailing your threads
Remata Lakira Terran Coalition The Threshold	Posted - 2008.07.14 17:52:00 - [55] Originally by: Arvald if a god is willing to fight evil but not able then he is not omnipotent if he is able to fight evil but not willing then he is malevolent if he is both willing and able to fight evil when from when cometh evil? and if he is neither willing nor able then why call him a god Another problem: If god was told to create a stone so heavy that not even he could lift it then what would happen? If he created it that would mean that he'd be a part of this realitys rules and forces as he wouldn't be able to lift the stone. If he told you that he couldn't then his power obviously isn't infinite.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.07.14 17:53:00 - [56] So for those who pray to the spaghetti monster do they instead say Ramen?
Arvald Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.07.14 17:54:00 - [57] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich So for those who pray to the spaghetti monster do they instead say Ramen? this thread is so going to be locked soon Originally by: Siddy APERANTLY GEED PEE VEE PEE PLAYAS!!111 im in your forums, derailing your threads
Kyrall Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.07.14 17:58:00 - [58] Originally by: Remata Lakira Originally by: Arvald if a god is willing to fight evil but not able then he is not omnipotent if he is able to fight evil but not willing then he is malevolent if he is both willing and able to fight evil when from when cometh evil? and if he is neither willing nor able then why call him a god Another problem: If god was told to create a stone so heavy that not even he could lift it then what would happen? If he created it that would mean that he'd be a part of this realitys rules and forces as he wouldn't be able to lift the stone. If he told you that he couldn't then his power obviously isn't infinite. I'm fairly sure that's like saying if a particle is in one place it can't be somewhere else, therefore quantum physics is a load of rubbish... - Originally by: Tamia Clant in a Jenny Spitfire thread There was a flame here, but it ran out of oxygen.
Slade Trillgon Siorai Iontach Brotherhood of the Spider	Posted - 2008.07.14 18:03:00 - [59] Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 14/07/2008 18:03:52 Originally by: Remata Lakira Another problem: If god was told No one tells God what to do Slade "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self"
Remata Lakira Terran Coalition The Threshold	Posted - 2008.07.14 18:17:00 - [60] Originally by: Kyrall Another problem: If god was told to create a stone so heavy that not even he could lift it then what would happen? If he created it that would mean that he'd be a part of this realitys rules and forces as he wouldn't be able to lift the stone. If he told you that he couldn't then his power obviously isn't infinite. I'm fairly sure that's like saying if a particle is in one place it can't be somewhere else, therefore quantum physics is a load of rubbish... Wrong. You can't just disregard a well known philosophical theory by just comparing it to a flawed argument based on your lack of understanding in the quantum physics departments. If your god does indeed exist then this argument proves that it isn't omnipotent. It has to obey the rules of this universe, which means that this god of yours can't cut the price of gasoline...unless it puts on a suit and take san active role in the world economy. On a slightly lighter note: if your god is perfect and he created us in his own image then howcome people frequently bite the inside of their mouths by accident? Could this be the work of Satan?

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