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Gerome Doutrande
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Posted - 2004.05.27 19:53:00 -
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sorry but 40 euros feels like doing a real life wallet exploit, even if it is not intended to be one or come across as one. it does come across as one, which you do not intend i hope.
a reasonable price that would achieve the "security measure" feel should be drastically lower if at all rl money payable (don't see why a time limit is not sufficient).
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.05.27 20:23:00 -
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That's not a nice way to treat us, CCP.
Hell, i(and many others) can't even pay an extra 15$\E,
and you expect us to pay 40$\E for that,
better scrap the avatar change feature all together.
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.05.27 20:24:00 -
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Bad idea.
Nasty precedent.
Don't do it.
The only thin line you have is on content deployment. And your timing is just bloody farking awful, couldn't be worse. NOW, when you have people (right or wrong) whipped up over the delay of Shiva and calling the content into question, is NOT the time to start charging for features 
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kieron
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Posted - 2004.05.27 20:26:00 -
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As I posted before, way back on page 2, the pricing is being discussed internally and when a final determination is made, it will be blogged and posted on the forums.
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online
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Nomaar
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Posted - 2004.05.27 20:27:00 -
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This could turn into a slippery slope. What's next, real-life money for extra skillpoints at character creation. Real-life fees for lab and manufacturing slots? Real money to buy research lottery tickets?
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Aelius
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Posted - 2004.05.27 20:28:00 -
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 Originally by: kieron
As I posted before, way back on page 2, the pricing is being discussed internally and when a final determination is made, it will be blogged and posted on the forums.
The question is not the price... The question is the lack of reality this will bring to the game. And the great HAVOC it will cause with missleading IDs.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.05.27 20:28:00 -
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's not really a feature though, is it?
There's no new twinkley things, no new implant models, no new backgrounds, etc. There's nothing new, it's just switching faces. It's the pricetag that bothers me, personally  .
Hopefully, this won't deter them from putting in all those nifty things we were thinking about that could be done with the portrait (I'll get a War Tattoo, just to spite you minnies).
Means I can finally get my Beta face back tho.
Nifty
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Nemesis I
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Posted - 2004.05.27 20:28:00 -
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Will there be a refund if people do buy the option now?
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Nomaar
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Posted - 2004.05.27 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
As I posted before, way back on page 2, the pricing is being discussed internally and when a final determination is made, it will be blogged and posted on the forums.
It's not just the price, Kieron. It's clear in the player response so far that just the idea of charging real money for what should be an in-game feature is what's distasteful.
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Solomon Smith
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Posted - 2004.05.27 20:29:00 -
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I don't want to pay even 1 Ç/$, no RL money, for changing my portrait. It just makes no sense. It should be an in-game feature.
What about more, new, fresh CONTENT? You know, places where you can change details on your pic, but not your face. Surgeons who can change your face (even your sex) for a vast amount of isk. Illegal agents who can get you a new identity paying an insane amount of isk or something else, like doing certain missions for them. Skills for bounty hunters (or others) to track down those pirates who changed their identity...
etc. etc. etc.
I know this might be more difficult to implement, but i do think it is way much better, introduces new content and doesn't make you look so greedy, but very competent, indeed.
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Xelios
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Posted - 2004.05.27 20:34:00 -
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Kieron I don't think the issue is whether or not the price will stay the same, I'm sure it will change, but I think a lot of people are amazed such a price was even considered by CCP and are commenting that such a blatent wallet******should have been turned down long before it was ever implemented.
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Nightfang
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Posted - 2004.05.27 20:37:00 -
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What bugs me most about all of this is that it's a bannable offense to sell in-game services to other people for real life money (according to your EULA), but you yourself are planning on implementing so that you can...
I know it's your game, but that's just low. Alot of respect was lost for your company this evening, at least from my part.
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Frank Horrigan
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Posted - 2004.05.27 20:41:00 -
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Edited by: Frank Horrigan on 27/05/2004 20:41:57
I seriouisly need to get this hood off after that ultra super tech 5 jove super glue incident....
Originally by: Oveur
Originally by: Bhaal
What has turned out better than expected?
Everything. Remember, we're from Iceland.
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Alastra
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Posted - 2004.05.27 20:42:00 -
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My concern is that everyone will want a Ni-Kunni portrait... Or will it be restricted by race?
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Del Narveux
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Posted - 2004.05.27 20:45:00 -
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Personally I think paying any real money for changing the way your character looks is just plain retarded. Now, this char was naturally blessed with a very sexy mug, mind you, but one of my others does look a bit creepy. Still, theres no way in hell Im gonna pay money for it, though.
I would agree that it should maybe cost ingame money, and/or maybe have time limitations, but charging real money for it is just stupid. I mean, I probably wouldnt pay $40 if it came with a session with a good artist to draw a custom one.
Additionally, if youre gonna start reworking the way characters look, how about making the races look a bit more attractive in the first place? The only reason most Caldari are Caldari is its the only race whose characters dont look like goth punks or on *****.
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Agent Shield
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Posted - 2004.05.27 20:49:00 -
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OUCH!
I will keep my portrait, I am satisfied. I would have thought something like this would be an in-game feature. Head to medical facility, talk to plastic surgeon, pay the isk, look through catalog and adjust to your heart's desire.
I am guessing of the thousands of people who play this game, there may be a few who actually will pay $40 bucks for something as simple as a hair transplant, just not me.
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Trader Klyde
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Posted - 2004.05.27 20:53:00 -
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A game I used to play had the portrait change service, it charged you in-game credits for a facelift, hair transplant etc.
Heck, you could modify your ship design and colors also, all for in-game credits.
Charging real life money for this is a bad idea, please re-think it.
I have no problem with the price for the character transfer service price... It should be steep.
Please, please, please... Do not allow any type of character name-change service, this would cause pure chaos among the playerbase.
Just my .2 isk...
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Tripp Orsam
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Posted - 2004.05.27 21:01:00 -
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Edited by: Tripp Orsam on 27/05/2004 21:04:34
its obvious that many people are unhappy with thier portraits, either they made them quickly to get into the game or they just were not feeling very creative at the time, either way they are not happy, I think that main characters should be allowed one portrait change for free and then all other changes after that should be charged.
If this first change is free then the 40 price tag seems fair, otherwise its a bit steep, thats more expensive then the game itself right? something to think about.
One thing to think about is that you might already have a unique portrait! CCP must have changed something with the portrait creation process 'cos some of the older portraits are not possible to recreate, try making a replica of Lord Zap's face or another old school player. I know I cant recreate my character from beta he was caldari also, maybe its just a caldari thing, i guess ccp decided to make them a bit more angry looking.
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Claus
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Posted - 2004.05.27 21:13:00 -
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CCP is showing their true colours -- charging cash for a poor excuse for content.
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Czar Marcus
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Posted - 2004.05.27 21:20:00 -
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I agree, paying money for a portrait change seems completely profit driven, unethical, and unholy.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.05.27 21:24:00 -
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never read so stupid ****
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2004.05.27 21:36:00 -
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Hey CCP, a suggestion:
For $40, an individual can have his character portrait customized with unique items. For me, it'd be half-red-half-blue hair and reflective sunglasses. If I could get that done, I'd put down forty bucks without hesitation.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.05.27 21:53:00 -
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What I wouldnt give for a totally custom designed avatar 0_o
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Macca
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Posted - 2004.05.27 22:02:00 -
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I'd rather keep mr. retard as my avitar than mr. 'gonna burst a blood vessel if you dont give him ice-cream' thats on my sig and pay ú25 for it  .
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LukAsh
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Posted - 2004.05.27 22:09:00 -
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Edited by: LukAsh on 27/05/2004 22:31:04
40EU??
Lol I want some of that stuff the guy who set the price has been smoking
As for my picture change, I too remember like in a dream, that in beta plans was that if you for eg. buy an implant your picture would change and you could see this implant. That was a good idea, sadly many good ideas just died somewhere along the road...
I wouldn't change my look, maybe the hair... Oh wait I dont have any 
To Kieron:
You are community manager. Push CCP that they try to think more about their moves and consumer reactions... I think the 40EU price tag on the service is the worst and least thought through move to date. Even the E3 shiva relase date leak was nothing compared to this. It puts CCP in very bad light, as you can see in the posts before mine. And in the end its bad for EVE and we want all the best for it, don't we? 
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Kaspersky
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Posted - 2004.05.27 22:29:00 -
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SHOW ME THE MONEY!
Woo $40 - if anything needs balancing in your product ccp this is surely it!
Interesting features mind you. The swapping of character portraits should I think be an ingame feature on the character selection screen - minus of course the hefty $40 fee.
The introduction of this feature reminds me of back when the fee for mailing/convo ingame was introduced. That had a similar shock effect on the populace - although at least the currency involved was isk and not real money. I think that paying for these two features is (to put it mildly) distasteful and certainly does not get my backing.
If ccp are so intent on pumping their customer base for money then perhaps they should consider adding to their list of merchandise. A real winner I think would be a dartboard with Hellmar's face on one side and TomB's face on the other.
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meowcat
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Posted - 2004.05.27 22:31:00 -
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Edited by: meowcat on 27/05/2004 22:32:44
ok folks... MESSAGE RECEIVED AND UNDERSTOOD
we can stop being rude now and wait for them to undo the silly 40 quid thing
all will be right with the world and then we can all go back to talking about Shiva
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Hanns
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Posted - 2004.05.27 22:54:00 -
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I think the whole idea is BAD you should only be able to change your name under extenuating circumstances, EG. if your stupid enough to use your real name, or put your corp tag in your name! and then you shoukld be made to pay!!
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.05.27 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Hanns
I think the whole idea is BAD you should only be able to change your name under extenuating circumstances, EG. if your stupid enough to use your real name, or put your corp tag in your name! and then you shoukld be made to pay!!
only cause your so sexy, i didnt know you could move your head while creating my pic
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Hanns
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Posted - 2004.05.27 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri
only cause your so sexy, i didnt know you could move your head while creating my pic
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