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Ki An
Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:05:00 -
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Yeah, NPC corps need to be reworked. In line with this new concept of risk/reward by which CCP are basing the nerf to suicide ganks, NPC corps need to have more risk. You can sit in an NPC corp your entire EvE life running lvl 4 missions without any risk what-so-ever. Especially now that suicide ganks are getting nerfed. This needs to be fixed, CCP.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:06:00 -
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WhineLauncher II is already WhineThreadCreate?
also, /signed -
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NeoTheo
Dark Materials
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:06:00 -
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over 5 million SP, you become wardecable.
however its achived.
Neotheo Dark Materials
Linkage
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copasetic sideways
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:06:00 -
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i, for one, am convinced ki an would make an entertaining after dinner speaker
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xjen0va2
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:07:00 -
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link 2 info on suicide gank nerf please. i checked the information portal.
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Ki An
Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:08:00 -
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Guys, spread the word! Start your own threads!
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Sorted
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: xjen0va2 link 2 info on suicide gank nerf please. i checked the information portal.
dev blog, underneath forum on the left side of ur page. Vote against the nano nerf! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=832371
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Rhanna Khurin
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: copasetic sideways i, for one, am convinced ki an would make an entertaining after dinner speaker
I'd invite him to any dinner party i host for sure!
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Neesa Corrinne
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:10:00 -
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Originally by: NeoTheo over 5 million SP, you become wardecable.
however its achieved.
I endorse this message.
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Sorted
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:10:00 -
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Originally by: Ki An Guys, spread the word! Start your own threads!
i'm too lazy.. copy and paste ftw Vote against the nano nerf! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=832371
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:11:00 -
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As soon as you cost more moderation time than your subscription is worth they should delete your account.... -------- Ideas for: Mining
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Sorted
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:19:00 -
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Edited by: Sorted on 06/08/2008 13:19:12
Originally by: Abrazzar As soon as you cost more moderation time than your subscription is worth they should delete your account....
it will save me the trouble.
whining on the forums is the only use i am getting for the rest of my sub.. expires later this month. stupid 60day etcs... if i had paid for it i would be well botherd. Vote against the nano nerf! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=832371
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copasetic sideways
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:21:00 -
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leave now. no-one minds. srsly.
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Jowen Datloran
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:22:00 -
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Not that I ever expect things to change soon, but I would like a change in the way of how NPC corps work. Give more options to choose from (like pirate NPC corps) and have them engaged in some kind of FW scheme.
Not just put everybody in their own little one man corp. That would simply bore most people away quick. ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute
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Steve Hawkings
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:27:00 -
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/signed this game now has too many losers just building stuff and not willing to fight for it.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:30:00 -
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at OP
No
Wherever you went - here you are.
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Tippia
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:31:00 -
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No. What needs to be reworked is how you find a decent PC corps to join. The current system sucks and keeps people in NPC corps longer than is necessary. Before anything is done to the NPC corps, the whole corp search mechanism needs a complete overhaul.
Originally by: NeoTheo over 5 million SP, you become wardecable.
however its achived.
Personal wardecs? Hmmm… might be a solution. Throw in a change in the bounty system and attach it to that, and I think there might be some merit to that idea.
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Animenick
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Ki An Yeah, NPC corps need to be reworked. In line with this new concept of risk/reward by which CCP are basing the nerf to suicide ganks, NPC corps need to have more risk. You can sit in an NPC corp your entire EvE life running lvl 4 missions without any risk what-so-ever. Especially now that suicide ganks are getting nerfed. This needs to be fixed, CCP.
What, so you griefers can dec anyone who even crosses your path the wrong way? How are new people to the game supposed to better themselves? And the SP requirement for a war dec doesn't work. Even if you have 10mil SP, getting hunted by a 2003/2004 char is sure death. The fact is there are some serious jerks in this game who will go out of the way to make it so miserable that you would quit. Making it viable to dec someone in an NPC corp will just make it easier for the control freaks to make this game hell to some.
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copasetic sideways
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Steve Hawkings
/signed this game now has too many losers just building stuff and not willing to fight for it.
uh-huh... and who ya gonna call when the "losers" have been hounded out of game?
(clue: answer isn't ghostbusters)
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Kalintos Tyl
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: Animenick
Originally by: Ki An Yeah, NPC corps need to be reworked. In line with this new concept of risk/reward by which CCP are basing the nerf to suicide ganks, NPC corps need to have more risk. You can sit in an NPC corp your entire EvE life running lvl 4 missions without any risk what-so-ever. Especially now that suicide ganks are getting nerfed. This needs to be fixed, CCP.
What, so you griefers can dec anyone who even crosses your path the wrong way? How are new people to the game supposed to better themselves? And the SP requirement for a war dec doesn't work. Even if you have 10mil SP, getting hunted by a 2003/2004 char is sure death. The fact is there are some serious jerks in this game who will go out of the way to make it so miserable that you would quit. Making it viable to dec someone in an NPC corp will just make it easier for the control freaks to make this game hell to some.
i killed 2004 chars with 5mln sp whine more
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Ruze
Amarr No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:38:00 -
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I think the entire war-dec scenario needs overhauled. It shouldn't be used as a pay-to-grief program.
"The greatest offense is no defense."
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:41:00 -
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Ki An, you have clearly not started enough topics about this, and you're being far too soft on these people. Advice: 1. At least a dozen more topics in various forums 2. Use of extreme hyperbole, Comparisons to WoW and HKO, etc 3. Claim that all CCP devs are biased in favor of BoB macrominers and farmers 4. Claims that entire demographics will quit once this change goes live 5. Consolidate your punctuation. Fewer dangling periods all alone, more question marks and exclamation points moving about in herds ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3) |

Neesa Corrinne
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: copasetic sideways
Originally by: Steve Hawkings
/signed this game now has too many losers just building stuff and not willing to fight for it.
uh-huh... and who ya gonna call when the "losers" have been hounded out of game?
(clue: answer isn't ghostbusters)
Do you realize that a large portion of these NPC corp, 30 million SP mission runners are simply PVP alts that utilize the safety of NPC corps and empire space to feed their mains ISK?
These people aren't going to simply quit the game due to the threat of being attacked. They will change and adapt much like they adapted to the game by making an empire ISK alt.
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Anaalys Fluuterby
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Ki An Yeah, NPC corps need to be reworked. In line with this new concept of risk/reward by which CCP are basing the nerf to suicide ganks, NPC corps need to have more risk. You can sit in an NPC corp your entire EvE life running lvl 4 missions without any risk what-so-ever. Especially now that suicide ganks are getting nerfed. This needs to be fixed, CCP.
Hint Ki An, maybe re-evaluate everything CCP has been doing and saying?
To me it seems that they don't agree with you. Their actions and proposed actions are telling us that YOUR time has come Somehow I doubt they are going to force people to take more risk when everything change they are making is decreasing risk that players can't control. -------------------------------------------------
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Not it isn't, people should be encouraged to get out in low sec space, but never forced to do so.
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Neesa Corrinne
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Ruze I think the entire war-dec scenario needs overhauled. It shouldn't be used as a pay-to-grief program.
Given the fact that there are dozens of methods, for anyone with a grasp of tactics, to avoid a fight... griefing is hardly the word.
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Johann Jeneau
Gallente Cricas Portuguese Korp
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:48:00 -
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Signed, no reason to be war dec imune after 2 or 3 months of character life, i actually abuse of this stuff, i have 4 or 5 chars doing several slave work for me in high-sec in NPC corps and i feel it's stupid i dont have to worry about anything (i avoid being a good target for suicide gankings).
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Ruze
Amarr No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Neesa Corrinne
Originally by: Ruze I think the entire war-dec scenario needs overhauled. It shouldn't be used as a pay-to-grief program.
Given the fact that there are dozens of methods, for anyone with a grasp of tactics, to avoid a fight... griefing is hardly the word.
Don't get me wrong, war decs are used by many as a legitimate means to carry out grievances. But they are also used by 'hardcore pvp' corporations to have big, easy and soft targets available in high-sec. If they can boost their kill 'stats', get a few isk and have a bunch of laughs because someone whines in local, it's not a bad thing, right?
I don't think that these can be ignored. So many players stay in the NPC's corps for exactly that reason. There are just too many self-proclaimed PvPers out there who want nothing but an easy win. Give them coordinated resistance, and they run off or complain themselves. But sadly, not every noob corp out there has a grasp of tactics or organization. Which is the primary reason these people ask for NPC corps to be wardec able.
C'mon, we all know that using the 'macro miner' excuse is just that, an excuse. People fight off macro workers every day with suicide attacks and such. Stop giving us BS, and just say it ... "I want to beat up on little kids" 
The war dec mechanism is one-sided and will probably stay that way. To balance it out, I can imagine that NPC corporations will stay the way they are, too. The more things change in EvE, the more they stay the same.
"The greatest offense is no defense."
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FlameGlow
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:59:00 -
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There are no rewards for being in NPC corp therefore there is no risc of wardec, looks ok 
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Veldya
Caldari Guristari Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2008.08.06 14:01:00 -
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War Decs are only an issue for real corps. If you were just someone who wanted to generate your small parcel of isk so you can get by then you can avoid being in a Wardecced company while it is a valid highsec target. Changing NPC corps won't have any impact.
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Tippia
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.08.06 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: FlameGlow There are no rewards for being in NPC corp therefore there is no risc of wardec, looks ok 
Define "reward"…
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