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Rapala Armiron
DOUBLE IDENTITY BLACK-MARK
2
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Posted - 2012.03.23 19:09:00 -
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Roxwar wrote:Rapala Armiron wrote:Roxwar wrote:The only ones quitting due to removing high sec PVP are the pussies who lack the balls to go to the places CCP provide for PVP, you may have heard of low sec and null sec, thats where most PVP players get their rocks off, and not hiding behind concord protection while they cherry pick their targets to dec knowing full well they outclass them in every way for guarenteed easy kills..
People just mad they wont be able to buff their KB with easy kills against non PVP players in high sec who dont know how to shoot back and will be forced to come to low/null and fight other - oh my gosh - PVP'ers who actually can and will shoot you back to the point you return to high sec with your carebear tail between your legs, and eventually - fingers crossed - quit EVE.
TLDR - Cry moar and jog on. So what you are saying is that eve is no longer the MMO to go to if you want open world pvp? Pvp is supposed to be restricted to battle zones with empire acting as a large safe area? Eve is now no different from WOW and any of its progeny? Sure it is, you'll find what your looking for in low sec or null sec, whichever takes your fancy. Your mad that your one sided griefing in high sec is coming to an end arnt you? C'mon, admit it ;) Never played WoW, or any other MMO for that matter, my point of view is a simple one, if people who have busy lives and not much free time to spare to come play eve, and play it just to chill out and enjoy it, than where is the problem with giving them an safe envioroment to do their thing in? The only people who will be upset with this, is pvp wannabe's who think they're super awesome because they regularly shoot PVE players and carebears who simply dont want to PVP. In their eyes, that makes them elite, and its the fear of them losing their easy button thats making them shake the most.
The only thing I care about is the open world - sand box aspect of eve. If you take that away by walling off areas and saying "such and such" is not allowed here, and "this and that" are not allowed there -- then eve has been devolved into one of the many other theme park type games out. You kill what was special about eve. |

Ender Karazaki
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2012.03.23 19:15:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:What we're actually doing is removing both hisec and PvP from the game entirely. It seems like the fairest way to solve this problem.
Now I can invite my guild over from WoW and we will have fun, fun, fun! When Incarna is fully realised we can all dance and shoot the breeze at the Jita station Lobby before we go to the empty goonswarm null space to mine and spread peace, love and happiness. |

Brom MkLeith
Epsilon Inc STORM.
14
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Posted - 2012.03.23 19:18:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:I, and a significant amount of the people I know, would probably quit, or draw down our account numbers to at best one per player. It really depends on how much things change
If changes are limited in scope to what has been proposed so far, we'd retaliate by significantly upping the amount of infiltration and in-corp griefing activities to ensure that the amount of accounts CCP loses from our activities completely overshadows the amount of accounts CCP loses from our own unsubscriptions. We'd do everything possible, and within allowed game mechanics, to collect carebear and CCP tears
If CCP makes high-sec completely nonconductive to nonconsensual player interaction, then most of us would flat-out quit. There would be nothing left for us in this game.
It's a shame that the only thing in this game for you is for you to be able to gank people. It's a chickenshit tactic requiring little skill or bravery and it harms the general player base. People crying about the POSSIBILITY of removing non-consensual pvp from HIGH SEC sound like the punk bully who gets his lawyer Daddy to sue the school because they put him in time out for smacking other kids in the head
I don't want the bully killed. I just want to be able to fight back without the teacher taking away everything that I use to protect myself with. If you give the bully a baseball bat then let me have one as well.
Don't remove Non-consensual PVP but make it so it's not soooooo damned cheap and chicken **** to do. |

Carebears Control Playerbase
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.03.23 19:19:00 -
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Brom MkLeith wrote:[quote=Destiny Corrupted]I, and a significant amount of the people I know, would probably quit, or draw down our account numbers to at best one per player. It really depends on how much things change
Fail quote |

Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
99
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Posted - 2012.03.23 19:21:00 -
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Carebears Control Playerbase wrote:Brom MkLeith wrote:[quote=Destiny Corrupted]I, and a significant amount of the people I know, would probably quit, or draw down our account numbers to at best one per player. It really depends on how much things change Fail quote
It's hardly a failed quote, as he's still quoting albeit in a slightly different format. |

Dunbar Hulan
The Suicide Kings Test Alliance Please Ignore
76
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Posted - 2012.03.23 19:25:00 -
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No shortage of drama queens in here. -áThe Sideburns- Always Outnumbered- Never Outgunned. Manchester United - Paul Scholes= Genius |

Roxwar
The Foreign Legion Test Alliance Please Ignore
30
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Posted - 2012.03.23 19:26:00 -
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Caliph Muhammed wrote:
The problem is i'll suicide gank the bear and then hide in that safe enviroment. Or kill your ship at X and prevent you from retaliating. Or any number of craptastic things that can be done when someone can achieve absolute safety.
Suicide ganking isnt what were talking about, i agree that will always exist regardless, unless CCP code it so that the second you cycle your guns, Concord insta 1 shot pwn you and your volley is negated. Now that would make people mad heh.
Rapala Armiron wrote:
The only thing I care about is the open world - sand box aspect of eve. If you take that away by walling off areas and saying "such and such" is not allowed here, and "this and that" are not allowed there -- then eve has been devolved into one of the many other theme park type games out. You kill what was special about eve.
I do see your point, and it's a very valid one, but from a business point of view, how many $ has CCP lost from potential new players just because some neckbeard in his moms basement gets his kicks from killing innocent players who have no interest in PVP? Im just playing devils advocate here, on the one side, you have bitter high sec griefers who see the possibility of easy kills vanishing, and are shedding tears by the bucket load. On the other, you have people who quit after a couple of weeks due to some asshat and costing CCP potential money.
Its a fine line and CCP have to get it right, but i do believe that reducing the opportunities that leet high PVP'ers have in which to put off new subscribers is an important step in the right direction. http://roxwar.blogspot.com/ |

Brom MkLeith
Epsilon Inc STORM.
15
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Posted - 2012.03.23 19:28:00 -
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Roxwar wrote:The only ones quitting due to removing high sec PVP are the pussies who lack the balls to go to the places CCP provide for PVP, you may have heard of low sec and null sec, thats where most PVP players get their rocks off, and not hiding behind concord protection while they cherry pick their targets to dec knowing full well they outclass them in every way for guarenteed easy kills..
People just mad they wont be able to buff their KB with easy kills against non PVP players in high sec who dont know how to shoot back and will be forced to come to low/null and fight other - oh my gosh - PVP'ers who actually can and will shoot you back to the point you return to high sec with your carebear tail between your legs, and eventually - fingers crossed - quit EVE.
TLDR - Cry moar and jog on.
Amen brother! |

Brom MkLeith
Epsilon Inc STORM.
15
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Posted - 2012.03.23 19:29:00 -
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Carebears Control Playerbase wrote:Brom MkLeith wrote:[quote=Destiny Corrupted]I, and a significant amount of the people I know, would probably quit, or draw down our account numbers to at best one per player. It really depends on how much things change Fail quote
Thanks for pointing out that I dropped that Bracket on the way to the Post button. :)
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Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
99
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Posted - 2012.03.23 19:32:00 -
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Brom MkLeith wrote:Carebears Control Playerbase wrote:Brom MkLeith wrote:[quote=Destiny Corrupted]I, and a significant amount of the people I know, would probably quit, or draw down our account numbers to at best one per player. It really depends on how much things change Fail quote Thanks for pointing out that I dropped that Bracket on the way to the Post button. :)
You're not the first and you won't be the last. |

ganks theman
Republic University Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2012.03.23 19:42:00 -
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Carebears Control Playerbase wrote:Refer to the subject.
If you are to lazy to check again "How many Players will quit the game due to the complete removal of High-sec PVP"
Just curious.
Edit: I didn't make this thread to ***** and moan about the changes, I just wanted to see and show the amount of the playerbase that would be affected.
lols poor newbie ganks theman =-á gangster man :P |

Ajita al Tchar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
146
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Posted - 2012.03.23 19:43:00 -
[162] - Quote
CCP troll best troll
look at dem poasts |

Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
311
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Posted - 2012.03.23 19:44:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:What we're actually doing is removing both hisec and PvP from the game entirely. It seems like the fairest way to solve this problem. You should do this more often... 
Wormholes: The *NEW* end game of Eve - Online: No Local. No Lag. No Blues (No Intell Channesl). No Blobs.
NEW FEATURE: NO INCARNA! |

Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
609
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Posted - 2012.03.23 20:42:00 -
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Hi. I'm looking for the Tinfoil Hat booth. Someone said it was next to the Wild Speculation Crystal Ball booth. Pretty sure I'm in the right area.
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Thomas Abernathy
Phantom Squad Nulli Secunda
64
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Posted - 2012.03.23 20:53:00 -
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Well, the griefer tears alone are worth the changes.
I see a lot of whining about not being able to greif someone easily correct? Yet the same people are whining about how EVE has gone all soft. Has it? Or has it simply become a bit harder for griefers, who rely on easy prey? 
"Fighting CCD since 2139" |

Zverofaust
Ascetic Virtues
25
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Posted - 2012.03.23 20:57:00 -
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IMHO the only people who really, really want PVP in highsec are faggots who are too scared to go anywhere that they don't have the luxery to be completely safe until they pick and choose their unwary targets. As such, and as I never go to highsec anyway because it's literally boring space, they can remove PVP alllllllllllllllll they want. Maybe you should stop being such a carebear and PVP in lowsec. |

Carebears Control Playerbase
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.03.23 21:16:00 -
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Zverofaust wrote:IMHO the only people who really, really want PVP in highsec are faggots who are too scared to go anywhere that they don't have the luxery to be completely safe until they pick and choose their unwary targets. As such, and as I never go to highsec anyway because it's literally boring space, they can remove PVP alllllllllllllllll they want. Maybe you should stop being such a carebear and PVP in lowsec.
Pvp in lowsec is all about having more people and more supers than the next guy, by essentially engaging everyone else with twice as many people how are you any better than I. I wouldn't doubt that you are to afraid to undock when local has more neutrals than blues. |

Thomas Abernathy
Phantom Squad Nulli Secunda
64
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Posted - 2012.03.23 21:18:00 -
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Carebears Control Playerbase wrote:Zverofaust wrote:IMHO the only people who really, really want PVP in highsec are faggots who are too scared to go anywhere that they don't have the luxery to be completely safe until they pick and choose their unwary targets. As such, and as I never go to highsec anyway because it's literally boring space, they can remove PVP alllllllllllllllll they want. Maybe you should stop being such a carebear and PVP in lowsec. Pvp in lowsec is all about having more people and more supers than the next guy, by essentially engaging everyone else with twice as many people how are you any better than I. I wouldn't doubt that you are to afraid to undock when local has more neutrals than blues.
Just goes to show you haven't been to lowsec in years....
"Fighting CCD since 2139" |

Carebears Control Playerbase
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.03.23 21:26:00 -
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Thomas Abernathy wrote:Carebears Control Playerbase wrote:Zverofaust wrote:IMHO the only people who really, really want PVP in highsec are faggots who are too scared to go anywhere that they don't have the luxery to be completely safe until they pick and choose their unwary targets. As such, and as I never go to highsec anyway because it's literally boring space, they can remove PVP alllllllllllllllll they want. Maybe you should stop being such a carebear and PVP in lowsec. Pvp in lowsec is all about having more people and more supers than the next guy, by essentially engaging everyone else with twice as many people how are you any better than I. I wouldn't doubt that you are to afraid to undock when local has more neutrals than blues. Just goes to show you haven't been to lowsec in years.... 
Define lowsec for me then. If I were to check your killboard what would I see? All your kills having an extra three dozen people on it, or would I see you solo ganking cyno alts? |

DarthNefarius
Ssssansha'S Deathhead Einsatzgruppen
89
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Posted - 2012.03.23 21:30:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:What we're actually doing is removing both hisec and PvP from the game entirely. It seems like the fairest way to solve this problem.
lol you do that ... I'll start ice mining in NULL just to laugh at every1 that wants to kill me while singing the dwarfs song from snow white.." hi ho hi hoes it's of to work I go...." |

Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
312
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Posted - 2012.03.23 21:30:00 -
[171] - Quote
Zverofaust wrote:IMHO the only people who really, really want PVP in highsec are faggots who are too scared to go anywhere that they don't have the luxery to be completely safe until they pick and choose their unwary targets. Wrong. But don't let that stop you.
Wormholes: The *NEW* end game of Eve - Online: No Local. No Lag. No Blues (No Intell Channesl). No Blobs.
NEW FEATURE: NO INCARNA! |

THE L0CK
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
58
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Posted - 2012.03.23 21:32:00 -
[172] - Quote
Carebears Control Playerbase wrote:Thomas Abernathy wrote:Carebears Control Playerbase wrote:Zverofaust wrote:IMHO the only people who really, really want PVP in highsec are faggots who are too scared to go anywhere that they don't have the luxery to be completely safe until they pick and choose their unwary targets. As such, and as I never go to highsec anyway because it's literally boring space, they can remove PVP alllllllllllllllll they want. Maybe you should stop being such a carebear and PVP in lowsec. Pvp in lowsec is all about having more people and more supers than the next guy, by essentially engaging everyone else with twice as many people how are you any better than I. I wouldn't doubt that you are to afraid to undock when local has more neutrals than blues. Just goes to show you haven't been to lowsec in years....  Define lowsec for me then. If I were to check your killboard what would I see? All your kills having an extra three dozen people on it, or would I see you solo ganking cyno alts?
I'm kind of fond of this one. When a rapier comes along, you must **** it..... Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1348
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Posted - 2012.03.23 21:37:00 -
[173] - Quote
Will we be able to wear white or black cowboy hats?
Just asking. |

Zverofaust
Ascetic Virtues
26
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Posted - 2012.03.23 21:43:00 -
[174] - Quote
Carebears Control Playerbase wrote:Thomas Abernathy wrote:Carebears Control Playerbase wrote:Zverofaust wrote:IMHO the only people who really, really want PVP in highsec are faggots who are too scared to go anywhere that they don't have the luxery to be completely safe until they pick and choose their unwary targets. As such, and as I never go to highsec anyway because it's literally boring space, they can remove PVP alllllllllllllllll they want. Maybe you should stop being such a carebear and PVP in lowsec. Pvp in lowsec is all about having more people and more supers than the next guy, by essentially engaging everyone else with twice as many people how are you any better than I. I wouldn't doubt that you are to afraid to undock when local has more neutrals than blues. Just goes to show you haven't been to lowsec in years....  Define lowsec for me then. If I were to check your killboard what would I see? All your kills having an extra three dozen people on it, or would I see you solo ganking cyno alts?
Check my kb plz i like when ppl do that. |

Zanzil C
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.03.23 21:49:00 -
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Can flipping and high-sec PvP bans will lead to the heroic goons disbanding which will break my heart |

Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
136
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Posted - 2012.03.23 21:51:00 -
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Carebears Control Playerbase wrote: If you are to lazy to check again...
What a lovely way to start a post. I'm sure you have many important things to say. |

Mith'riin
Konata Society
1
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Posted - 2012.03.23 21:57:00 -
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PvP to Highsec pirates YAARRRRRR = Can flip, suicide ganking exhumers/mining barges/that idiot in a 2b pimped tengu/that guy with an industrial in autopilot.
Get real for one time in your life, go to 0.0 and live/die there. Then you can talk about pvp and go QQQQQQ. 90% of the "Highsec" PvP players do it for griefing or iskies (And then you complain about isk/h on some aspects of the game). I'm sorry for the legit 10% that just wanted to pewpew in 1v1 duels.
Edit: Besides all of that. You NEED new players in the game. You remember me of the high level players in Lineage 2 pking all the lowbies. You NEED the game to keep getting players, else, you will end playing alone, spinning your ship in the station. Good and succesfull MMO need to catter to a wide audience. You are like the little underground emo teenagers that stop listeting to a good band because it was made "Commercial" |

Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
308
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Posted - 2012.03.23 22:03:00 -
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Too few the less asshats the better 
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |

Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2012.03.23 22:10:00 -
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Zverofaust wrote:IMHO the only people who really, really want PVP in highsec are faggots who are too scared to go anywhere that they don't have the luxery to be completely safe until they pick and choose their unwary targets. As such, and as I never go to highsec anyway because it's literally boring space, they can remove PVP alllllllllllllllll they want. Maybe you should stop being such a carebear and PVP in lowsec.
This made me lulz.
Pretty much you only want concord to be able to kill you after you suicide gank?...Then you dock up and wait it out...or you going to make the argument that the hulk pilot is going to gank you back...this time in what a covetor? I mean lets face it most high sec pvp/ganking is so you can hedge your bets with neutral RR'ing and other crap like that.
Don't like capitals dropping in called WH space. |

Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
498
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Posted - 2012.03.23 22:22:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:Now, the mindset is to just whine and ***** about anything YOU dont like to use, and try to take it away from other people too. **** yeah, that is correct. Titan nerfs? Super Carriers? Anyone agree with that? Take away the supers, because you don't like to fly cap ships but you want it taken away from other people that do just because they can kick your ass with ease. This quote is correct, because people whine and ***** how unfair it is...but EVE isn't fair last I checked . |
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