There should be a PvE-only shard for eve. I realize it hurts the ability to market eve as a 'single shard universe' but you're going to end up with an 'empty shard universe' once another game with real pvp options becomes available.

Eve's major success was over the openness of its pvp. This is what attracted the vast majority of people to it, and what made eve what it is today.

Now that today is here and its become popular, the new babysat players from other games dont know how to handle the openness of the game, other then of course, whine and complain for CCP to change the rules

World of Evecraft here we come

The real real question is, why can't we have this nice niche game where pretty much anything goes, and send these "new" subscribers to either another game (been suggested), or create a whole new game for them to have an enjoyable experience in (been done)?

A steakhouse suddenly changing its menu to salads might attract a bunch of new health-conscious patrons, but where would all the steak lovers go?

I'm not saying it isn't, I hardly do that myself. I declare war on other high sec Pvp corporations. It's human nature to play, fight, claw, bite you're way to be the best and win a fight, does that not make everyone a coward?

You're clueless. Its a known fact that the general population of the internet now has MANY MANY more children then it did before.

In the days of quake it was mostly sysadmins, programmers, and tech 'junkies' who were online. Vast majority of people only had access via their work/jobs for a time.

Dialup acess restricted child's use of the internet because you had to pay-per-hour and most of that time was spent by the parents, not the children. Adult supervision of kids online was much more of a concern. There were no social media sites and it simply wasnt 'cool' to be playing games online. Kids played consoles mostly. Sure, there was the occasional child, but for the most part, it was adults.

Now days, facebook, twitter, myspace, etc, all attracted children online. iphones and all of that.

There may still be a majority of adults, but there are FAR more children online today then there was 20 years ago.

The real real question is, why can't we have this nice niche game where pretty much anything goes, and send these "new" subscribers to either another game (been suggested), or create a whole new game for them to have an enjoyable experience in (been done)?

A steakhouse suddenly changing its menu to salads might attract a bunch of new health-conscious patrons, but where would all the steak lovers go?

Refer to the subject.

If you are to lazy to check again "How many Players will quit the game due to the complete removal of High-sec PVP"

Just curious.

Refer to the subject.

If you are to lazy to check again "How many Players will quit the game due to the complete removal of High-sec PVP"

Just curious.

Low-sec will still be a numbers-and-capitals game as usual. The last time I went there, I had a guy in a faction cruiser tackle and shoot me with one gun at a station. I targeted him back, and sent a flight of medium armor bots in his direction. The drones weren't even halfway there when he popped the cyno.

Not enough thats for sure.

Real men PvP in 0.0 or Whs

What we're actually doing is removing both hisec and PvP from the game entirely. It seems like the fairest way to solve this problem.

What we're actually doing is removing both hisec and PvP from the game entirely. It seems like the fairest way to solve this problem.

What we're actually doing is removing both hisec and PvP from the game entirely. It seems like the fairest way to solve this problem.

What we're actually doing is removing both hisec and PvP from the game entirely. It seems like the fairest way to solve this problem.

There was no problem. Hisec aggression-mechanics worked fine, it's not the rest of our fault that,

A) Most of these idiot carebears refuse to learn the most basic aspects of the game.
B) The parts of hisec shenanigans that are problems--neutral RR not getting aggro-flagged, dec-shielding, the Orca SMA-nerf--were ones that you still haven't fixed, and/or have actively shat on in the case of the SMA nerf (hisec Orcas only, carriers in losec can still play their idiotic station-games, and do.)

Why don't you just admit that you want to turn EVE into just another generic **** MMO, and have done with it?

It's so bloody obvious, and has been for a long time. Because what I've seen from you in that other thread about this is one of the most downright pants-on-head ******** things I've ever seen from you. And that's saying something.

Lol, someone did actually bite the troll.

Well played Greyscale, 10/10.

just move out of high sec :)... you all should

What we're actually doing is removing both hisec and PvP from the game entirely. It seems like the fairest way to solve this problem.

What we're actually doing is removing both hisec and PvP from the game entirely. It seems like the fairest way to solve this problem.