That means you simply kiling the game

It would probably be better if you'd check the other thread and gave some answers there instead of looking like an idiot in this one.

What we're actually doing is removing both hisec and PvP from the game entirely. It seems like the fairest way to solve this problem.

It's cool, this was just my morning warm-up post

What we're actually doing is removing both hisec and PvP from the game entirely. It seems like the fairest way to solve this problem.

but how many new players will it retain? if you cant pvp in the proper areas (low sec and null) then dont pvp at all..

The proper area to PvP in is New Eden and that is by design.

not anymore...

I, and a significant amount of the people I know, would probably quit, or draw down our account numbers to at best one per player. It really depends on how much things change.

If changes are limited in scope to what has been proposed so far, we'd retaliate by significantly upping the amount of infiltration and in-corp griefing activities to ensure that the amount of accounts CCP loses from our activities completely overshadows the amount of accounts CCP loses from our own unsubscriptions. We'd do everything possible, and within allowed game mechanics, to collect carebear and CCP tears.

If CCP makes high-sec completely nonconductive to nonconsensual player interaction, then most of us would flat-out quit. There would be nothing left for us in this game.

But if you do that, what kind of non-unsafe space would I not have to never visit in order to avoid not being unexposed to non-unconsensual pvp?

If CCP makes high-sec completely nonconductive to nonconsensual player interaction, then most of us would flat-out quit. There would be nothing left for us in this game.

The real real question is, why can't we have this nice niche game where pretty much anything goes, and send these "new" subscribers to either another game (been suggested), or create a whole new game for them to have an enjoyable experience in (been done)?

A steakhouse suddenly changing its menu to salads might attract a bunch of new health-conscious patrons, but where would all the steak lovers go?

Sure, TQ's player count will drop, but at least we'll stop bleeding the players who actually count.

There was no problem. Hisec aggression-mechanics worked fine, it's not the rest of our fault that,

A) Most of these idiot carebears refuse to learn the most basic aspects of the game.
B) The parts of hisec shenanigans that are problems--neutral RR not getting aggro-flagged, dec-shielding, the Orca SMA-nerf--were ones that you still haven't fixed, and/or have actively shat on in the case of the SMA nerf (hisec Orcas only, carriers in losec can still play their idiotic station-games, and do.)

Why don't you just admit that you want to turn EVE into just another generic **** MMO, and have done with it?

It's so bloody obvious, and has been for a long time. Because what I've seen from you in that other thread about this is one of the most downright pants-on-head ******** things I've ever seen from you. And that's saying something.

Geez your clueless. CCP is about making money. If this move attract more salad eaters the steak lovers are the ones who will have to "go to another game"

War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature.

What we're actually doing is removing both hisec and PvP from the game entirely. It seems like the fairest way to solve this problem.

couldn't care less. ccp could make high sec candy land and only let people with 5.0 sec enter jita. wouldn't effect me or mine.
its a simple business needs scenario. more subs, more conversions, better retention if non-concensual pvp is nerfed. figures.

However, until there's another game that provides the experience I'm seeking, I will fight to preserve this one's core integrity.

It's not a "PVP" when you insta pop an industrial in your tornado, or gank some hulk/mackinaws at belts...

Are you trying to tell us that other players aren't piloting those industrials, hulks and mackinaws? If so the botting problem is much worse than anybody thought.