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Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.08.24 15:59:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
Edited by: soldieroffortune 258 on 24/08/2008 15:44:01
^^^ as i said, my attempt at math
so this kid spent 1000 dollars on a ONE ship in a freaking video game are you f'ing serious?
wow, lets see, i could freaking pay my rent with that 1000 dollars you rich ****, why dont you start sending me some of that rl money
seriously, it should be illegal to spend that much money on a freaking game man, honestly
What i find funny is that he could have bought a trully amazing char with all that isk if he really wanted to get ahead. Unlike the ship + mods the char lives forever. A maxed out char with a normal raven would probably match the officer pimped 4 month char.
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Malcanis
We are Legend
eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.08.24 19:09:00 -
[32]
Originally by: splintercellxxx
first of lets get the picture straight.
he made a noob account 4 weeks ago and war decced the alliance.
for 4 weeks he kept the war dec going and seeing it was a 1 man corp wich was a few days old (as old as the war) more and more people became les and les watchfull.
this morning he probably found the cnr he scanned out 4 weeks ago in a mission and he moved his char to the system and placed the hq there.
then he joined the corp at 08:02 and probably undocked and warped to his prober and at 08:05 the cnr was down.
now im all ok with the complete kill but the 24 hour rule was made to keep this kind of things out of the question (aka people can stash there mission boats and get geared up for the war)
now this is most likely his way of making isk in this game but the way its done is just not done.
(and it wouldn't suprise me when we log back in the game he left the corp again and goes and find a new target)
Since CCP have ruled that corp cycling is a legitimate way to avoid wardecs, how can anyone complain that corp cycling is a way to enforce them?
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Karentaki
Gallente
Fighting While Intoxicated
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Posted - 2008.08.24 19:31:00 -
[33]
I approve of this product or service!
EPIC KILL on the part of the OP.
EPIC FAIL on the part of the rich kid.
Seriously - who would spend 1000 USD on a GAME? I have never bought a GTC (or ISK) in my life, and I don't intend to. I'd rather save my money for university, and enjoy the game as it was meant to be played.
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CogInTheWheel
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Posted - 2008.08.24 22:07:00 -
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props to op. nice kill.
reminds me of when i played lin2 .. there was one guy, had to be a rich mofo irl cuz he had to ebay at least 25k usd on that game. we had so much fun ganking him and taking his gear.
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Durzel
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.08.25 01:31:00 -
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Edited by: Durzel on 25/08/2008 01:34:52
All that ISK and he only had 4 cruise launchers on a ship with 7 hardpoints? Very strange.
EDIT: I'm blind.
Particularly humourous that he decided to counter gimping his shield boost by using ~4.5bn+ of SBA mods, what's so wrong with regular Capacitor Flux Coils, assuming he actually even needed that much cap recharge (which I can't see how he would've done)
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Bronson Hughes
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering
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Posted - 2008.08.25 16:17:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Doddy
Unlike the ship + mods the char lives forever. A maxed out char with a normal raven would probably match the officer pimped 4 month char.
This is why all of my rather limited GTC sales have gone towards expensive skills. Since skills in your head can't be destroyed, I consider that to be a reasonably safe investment.
To the OP: Nice kill. It's people like you that are the reason why I will never run missions in anything but a plain vanilla Raven with named/T2 mods, but that's all part of the game so good on ya.
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xjen0va1
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Posted - 2008.08.25 16:43:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Bronson Hughes
Originally by: Doddy
Unlike the ship + mods the char lives forever. A maxed out char with a normal raven would probably match the officer pimped 4 month char.
This is why all of my rather limited GTC sales have gone towards expensive skills. Since skills in your head can't be destroyed, I consider that to be a reasonably safe investment.
To the OP: Nice kill. It's people like you that are the reason why I will never run missions in anything but a plain vanilla Raven with named/T2 mods, but that's all part of the game so good on ya.
if you get podded without an upgraded clone what happens then exactly?
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Major PewPew
The Dark Horses
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Posted - 2008.08.25 16:59:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Steinman
somehow i doubt a 4 month old has the sp to equip all that.
somehow i doubt you bothered to check skill requirements for non-t2 items..
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Letava
Gallente
Svefn-G-Englar
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Posted - 2008.08.25 17:32:00 -
[39]
Originally by: xjen0va1
Originally by: Bronson Hughes
Originally by: Doddy
Unlike the ship + mods the char lives forever. A maxed out char with a normal raven would probably match the officer pimped 4 month char.
This is why all of my rather limited GTC sales have gone towards expensive skills. Since skills in your head can't be destroyed, I consider that to be a reasonably safe investment.
To the OP: Nice kill. It's people like you that are the reason why I will never run missions in anything but a plain vanilla Raven with named/T2 mods, but that's all part of the game so good on ya.
if you get podded without an upgraded clone what happens then exactly?
You lose 5% of the SP off the skill with the highest number of SP trained.
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Bronson Hughes
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering
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Posted - 2008.08.25 17:54:00 -
[40]
Originally by: xjen0va1
if you get podded without an upgraded clone what happens then exactly?
You lose time spent training, but you cannot ever lose a skill entirely. Once you spend the money on a skillbook and learn it, it's in your head forever even if you pod yourself to oblivion a million times over.
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.08.25 18:24:00 -
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Damn you Kwed, get back to us! I recently started doing this as well and it works like a charm. People see a 1 man corp with a 2 week old alt for a few weeks and get very very relaxed. Scored a few alt kills like that myself.
Keep up the good work and send me some ISK damn you!
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Artemis Rose
Varion Galactic
Accord Corporate Enterprise Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.08.25 21:57:00 -
[42]
Originally by: splintercellxxx
first of lets get the picture straight.
he made a noob account 4 weeks ago and war decced the alliance.
for 4 weeks he kept the war dec going and seeing it was a 1 man corp wich was a few days old (as old as the war) more and more people became les and les watchfull.
this morning he probably found the cnr he scanned out 4 weeks ago in a mission and he moved his char to the system and placed the hq there.
then he joined the corp at 08:02 and probably undocked and warped to his prober and at 08:05 the cnr was down.
now im all ok with the complete kill but the 24 hour rule was made to keep this kind of things out of the question (aka people can stash there mission boats and get geared up for the war)
now this is most likely his way of making isk in this game but the way its done is just not done.
(and it wouldn't suprise me when we log back in the game he left the corp again and goes and find a new target)
Until I read that post, I was thinking "Meh, well it is a shiny kill, congrats". Now some more of the story comes out, I must say.
Very nicely done sir 
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techzer0
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.08.26 05:25:00 -
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Setting up 2 week old character now. 
That's too funny... and if I got a kill like that it'd be more than enough to keep my happy for a few months before doing it again
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techzer0
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.08.26 05:25:00 -
[44]
Edited by: techzer0 on 26/08/2008 05:25:48
I double posssssted blah
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Verx Interis
Amarr
Aurora Security
Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2008.08.26 07:07:00 -
[45]
Edited by: Verx Interis on 26/08/2008 07:14:21
Judging by the 40k damage taken, it seems that his tank didn't really do shit.
Originally by: Doddy
What i find funny is that he could have bought a trully amazing char with all that isk if he really wanted to get ahead. Unlike the ship + mods the char lives forever. A maxed out char with a normal raven would probably match the officer pimped 4 month char.
It happens a lot.
In most other MMO's, getting a high-level character doesn't take much (month or two if you're really working at it), and it's the equipment that counts. In this one, it's the SP and the player skill.
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
(dreadnoughts are also possibly the most boring ship you could fly. It's like mining, without the part where you make money)
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Ricdics
Corporate Placement Holding
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Posted - 2008.08.26 09:08:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Verx Interis
Edited by: Verx Interis on 26/08/2008 07:14:21
Judging by the 40k damage taken, it seems that his tank didn't really do shit.
My bet is that he wasn't shield boosting. He was just sitting in space idle with his hardeners running. So 40k of hardened only damage is actually not too bad especially for a low SP char who's shield related skills are probably not exactly crash hot.
I would love a few of those mods. To the OP let me know if you want to sell one of those Pith X-Types.  |
Joachim Kato
Zawa's Fan Club
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Posted - 2008.08.26 09:55:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Ricdics
Originally by: Verx Interis
Edited by: Verx Interis on 26/08/2008 07:14:21
Judging by the 40k damage taken, it seems that his tank didn't really do shit.
My bet is that he wasn't shield boosting. He was just sitting in space idle with his hardeners running. So 40k of hardened only damage is actually not too bad especially for a low SP char who's shield related skills are probably not exactly crash hot.
I would love a few of those mods. To the OP let me know if you want to sell one of those Pith X-Types.
Or he got 2 or 3 heavy neuts on him - even mail shows, that Paladin had Dual Pulses meaning it was not dps fit and was saving up grid for smth else. Hmmmm.... Wander what for.... 
Can't beat a neutralizer setup 1 vs 1 (2 vs 2 is a different story tho).
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oilio
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.26 19:29:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Nexa Necis
Damn you Kwed, get back to us! I recently started doing this as well and it works like a charm. People see a 1 man corp with a 2 week old alt for a few weeks and get very very relaxed. Scored a few alt kills like that myself.
Keep up the good work and send me some ISK damn you!
Oops.
http://myeve.eve-online.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=2317&tid=1
Probably be best to stop doing it now 
On a side note, maybe CCP will also look at corp-hopping into alt corps to avoid wardecs - that's as much of an exploit as this is. |
Jensius Duo
Digital Fury Corporation
Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.08.26 19:41:00 -
[49]
Hmm, this raven i popped last week...
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Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
WTB Your luck!
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Richard Garriott
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Posted - 2008.08.27 01:12:00 -
[50]
In after exploit notification.
Love how carebears abusing the system is fine, but if you attempt to find inovative ways to suprise PvP in this sandbox, PvP oriented game, you get ban warnings.
CCP dissapoints me more and more every day.
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Little Matt
Caldari
New Fnord Industries
Black Scope Project
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Posted - 2008.08.27 04:23:00 -
[51]
And how are Carebears abusing the system?
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Tarron Sarik
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Posted - 2008.08.27 05:14:00 -
[52]
Edited by: Tarron Sarik on 27/08/2008 05:20:02
Originally by: Richard Garriott
In after exploit notification.
Love how carebears abusing the system is fine, but if you attempt to find inovative ways to suprise PvP in this sandbox, PvP oriented game, you get ban warnings.
CCP dissapoints me more and more every day.
Read the notes again. Look at this goofball's corp history. It wasn't the "innovative way" he found PvP that CCP objected to, it was the "innovative way" the bugger AVOIDED PvP that was the problem.
He didn't engage in PvP - he ganked and ran - which in and of itself isn't all bad, but he then used a cheap exploit to avoid any reprisals from the victims. That isn't PvP - it's using a game mechanic to get a free kill, and then using the same mechanic to run and hide in an NPC corp. Really brave guy, eh?
Using throw-away toons and throw-away corps to do it is just as bad as using throw-away corps to HIDE from a war dec. Both abuse the spirit of the game - and it is really disheartening to see so many cheering him on in this cheap style of game play. Do you really want EVE to become a total mess of disposable corps to fit any need?
The problem with this ruling, as I see it, is that it doesn't really stop the abuse of disposable corps from happening - it stops people from joining a corp in the middle of a war dec. I think CCP needs to look at the people who JOIN a corp, ENGAGE a target, and THEN LEAVE the corp that is the problem. The real abuse comes from the combination of all 3 steps. I don't think it is right to stop someone from joining a corp with a war dec - they need to focus on the people who want to LEAVE that corp, especially if they have engaged in PvP since joining.
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Evanga
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Posted - 2008.08.27 07:17:00 -
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Wouldn't it be great being able to wardeck a npc corp member? Just that member. So you can finally get rid of cowards like these...
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Tarron Sarik
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Posted - 2008.08.27 07:43:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Evanga
Wouldn't it be great being able to wardeck a npc corp member? Just that member. So you can finally get rid of cowards like these...
If there was some way that the aggression YOU generated followed you through to the NPC corp - like maybe keeping your war dec status active even though you left the corp... I don't know what the solution is, but this guy ran to an NPC corp within MINUTES of his finishing the kill. Look at his initial post and the killmail he posted. His post was at 9am on the same day as the kill - and the kill was made at 8:05. At the time he made the post, 50 minutes AFTER the kill, he was already safely in his NPC corp. Pathetic.
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Evanga
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Posted - 2008.08.27 07:54:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Tarron Sarik
Originally by: Evanga
Wouldn't it be great being able to wardeck a npc corp member? Just that member. So you can finally get rid of cowards like these...
If there was some way that the aggression YOU generated followed you through to the NPC corp - like maybe keeping your war dec status active even though you left the corp... I don't know what the solution is, but this guy ran to an NPC corp within MINUTES of his finishing the kill. Look at his initial post and the killmail he posted. His post was at 9am on the same day as the kill - and the kill was made at 8:05. At the time he made the post, 50 minutes AFTER the kill, he was already safely in his NPC corp. Pathetic.
That would be a great solution, keeping your wardeck status for like 24hours in case of joining a NPC corp...or something like that. The timeframe thing is irrelevant in this idea but the concept is quite good :)
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Kwedaras
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:35:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Tarron Sarik
Originally by: Evanga
Wouldn't it be great being able to wardeck a npc corp member? Just that member. So you can finally get rid of cowards like these...
If there was some way that the aggression YOU generated followed you through to the NPC corp - like maybe keeping your war dec status active even though you left the corp... I don't know what the solution is, but this guy ran to an NPC corp within MINUTES of his finishing the kill. Look at his initial post and the killmail he posted. His post was at 9am on the same day as the kill - and the kill was made at 8:05. At the time he made the post, 50 minutes AFTER the kill, he was already safely in his NPC corp. Pathetic.
So leaving corp after killing somebody is wrong, but leaving corp when you get wardecked is good ? I could sit in station for a couple of days, so whats the point. just saved time for them.
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Evanga
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:05:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Kwedaras
Originally by: Tarron Sarik
Originally by: Evanga
Wouldn't it be great being able to wardeck a npc corp member? Just that member. So you can finally get rid of cowards like these...
If there was some way that the aggression YOU generated followed you through to the NPC corp - like maybe keeping your war dec status active even though you left the corp... I don't know what the solution is, but this guy ran to an NPC corp within MINUTES of his finishing the kill. Look at his initial post and the killmail he posted. His post was at 9am on the same day as the kill - and the kill was made at 8:05. At the time he made the post, 50 minutes AFTER the kill, he was already safely in his NPC corp. Pathetic.
So leaving corp after killing somebody is wrong, but leaving corp when you get wardecked is good ? I could sit in station for a couple of days, so whats the point. just saved time for them.
yes, it is wrong thats why the exploit notification. I think leaving corp to avoid wardeck is not an exploit. BUT joining an alt corp, gank someone and then quickly join a npc corp is cowardly and thus an exploit. The mechanics were never meant for such an action.
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Kwedaras
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:27:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Evanga
Originally by: Kwedaras
Originally by: Tarron Sarik
Originally by: Evanga
Wouldn't it be great being able to wardeck a npc corp member? Just that member. So you can finally get rid of cowards like these...
If there was some way that the aggression YOU generated followed you through to the NPC corp - like maybe keeping your war dec status active even though you left the corp... I don't know what the solution is, but this guy ran to an NPC corp within MINUTES of his finishing the kill. Look at his initial post and the killmail he posted. His post was at 9am on the same day as the kill - and the kill was made at 8:05. At the time he made the post, 50 minutes AFTER the kill, he was already safely in his NPC corp. Pathetic.
So leaving corp after killing somebody is wrong, but leaving corp when you get wardecked is good ? I could sit in station for a couple of days, so whats the point. just saved time for them.
yes, it is wrong thats why the exploit notification. I think leaving corp to avoid wardeck is not an exploit. BUT joining an alt corp, gank someone and then quickly join a npc corp is cowardly and thus an exploit. The mechanics were never meant for such an action.
nice double standarts here...
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Evanga
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:34:00 -
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you also broke (kind off) a rule of Terms of Service:
Rule 23: You may not exploit any bug in EVE Online to gain an unfair advantage over other players. You may not communicate the existence of any exploitable bug to others directly or through a public forum. Bugs should be reported through the bug reporting tool on our website.
and yes...i have nothing to do at work :P
and OT:
double standarts? You are misusing the whole purpose of NPC corps....
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Kwedaras
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:58:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Evanga
you also broke (kind off) a rule of Terms of Service:
Rule 23: You may not exploit any bug in EVE Online to gain an unfair advantage over other players. You may not communicate the existence of any exploitable bug to others directly or through a public forum. Bugs should be reported through the bug reporting tool on our website.
and yes...i have nothing to do at work :P
and OT:
double standarts? You are misusing the whole purpose of NPC corps....
wow, just wow...
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