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Kwedaras
Amarr
Chin Gwong Corp
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Posted - 2008.08.24 09:00:00 -
[1]
This is another killmail-epeen thread. flame me gently.
2008.08.24 08:05:00
Victim: <4 month old ebayer>
Corp: <corp>
Alliance: <alliance>
Faction: NONE
Destroyed: Raven Navy Issue
System: Osmeden
Security: 0.7
Damage Taken: 39504
Involved parties:
Name: Kwedaras (laid the final blow)
Security: -1.8
Corp: Classified
Alliance: NONE
Faction: NONE
Ship: Paladin
Weapon: Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II
Damage Done: 39504
Destroyed items:
Vespa I, Qty: 2 (Drone Bay)
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Qty: 3
Caldari Navy Wrath Cruise Missile, Qty: 55
Tobias' Modified Cruise Missile Launcher, Qty: 3
Capacitor Control Circuit II, Qty: 2
Vizan's Modified Capacitor Power Relay, Qty: 2
Caldari Navy Devastator Cruise Missile, Qty: 200 (Cargo)
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Dropped items:
Caldari Navy Paradise Cruise Missile, Qty: 2500 (Cargo)
Caldari Navy Wrath Cruise Missile, Qty: 83
Tobias' Modified Cruise Missile Launcher
Caldari Navy Cataclysm Cruise Missile, Qty: 2500 (Cargo)
Caldari Navy Devastator Cruise Missile, Qty: 2300 (Cargo)
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System, Qty: 2
Caldari Navy Wrath Cruise Missile, Qty: 2970 (Cargo)
Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier, Qty: 3
Thon's Modified Invulnerability Field, Qty: 2
Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
he was wardecked and decided to look at his pixels in space. was slowboating from station when i warped in, tank lasted not so long 
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Inara Subaka
Caldari
the united
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Posted - 2008.08.24 09:09:00 -
[2]
/me salutes you
Beautiful, many pirates have had wet dreams that were similar to this.
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Steinman
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Posted - 2008.08.24 09:20:00 -
[3]
somehow i doubt a 4 month old has the sp to equip all that.
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Kwedaras
Amarr
Chin Gwong Corp
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Posted - 2008.08.24 09:27:00 -
[4]
 Originally by: Steinman
somehow i doubt a 4 month old has the sp to equip all that.
deadspace and officer items usually have minimal requirements.
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SETH KAIN
Caldari
Noir.
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Posted - 2008.08.24 09:55:00 -
[5]
Proof of this kill and drop would be nice. If it is true...I hate you. Otherwise good job. SETH
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Kwedaras
Amarr
Chin Gwong Corp
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Posted - 2008.08.24 10:10:00 -
[6]
Linkage
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Fel Flash
The Accursed
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Posted - 2008.08.24 10:51:00 -
[7]
Edited by: Fel Flash on 24/08/2008 10:52:29
I think you might have blocked out the wrong part in that picture...
Since you have your corp right under your name "Chin Gwong Corp" although it appears you just left the corp... |
Nexus Kinnon
A Few Good Men.
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Posted - 2008.08.24 11:27:00 -
[8]
grats and all that jazz but STOP POSTING THESE THREADS JESUS CHRIST PEOPLE
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Deitre Cibrus
You're Doing It Wrong
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Posted - 2008.08.24 11:29:00 -
[9]
Originally by: Nexus Kinnon
grats and all that jazz but STOP POSTING THESE THREADS JESUS CHRIST PEOPLE
Only if u stop posting first?
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Originally by: Santiago Cortes
Please don't derail your own thread.
What is this sig missing?
Pretty colours? -Conuion
Not true! Has plenty -Deitre
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splintercellxxx
Gallente
Mindstar Technology
The Kano Organisation
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Posted - 2008.08.24 11:33:00 -
[10]
first of lets get the picture straight.
he made a noob account 4 weeks ago and war decced the alliance.
for 4 weeks he kept the war dec going and seeing it was a 1 man corp wich was a few days old (as old as the war) more and more people became les and les watchfull.
this morning he probably found the cnr he scanned out 4 weeks ago in a mission and he moved his char to the system and placed the hq there.
then he joined the corp at 08:02 and probably undocked and warped to his prober and at 08:05 the cnr was down.
now im all ok with the complete kill but the 24 hour rule was made to keep this kind of things out of the question (aka people can stash there mission boats and get geared up for the war)
now this is most likely his way of making isk in this game but the way its done is just not done.
(and it wouldn't suprise me when we log back in the game he left the corp again and goes and find a new target)
need killboard hosting : killboard hosting
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Uhr Zylex
Amarr
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.24 11:34:00 -
[11]
my pary are with the pilot who lost his mdoules, i am truley sorry for your lots
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Letava
Gallente
Svefn-G-Englar
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Posted - 2008.08.24 11:39:00 -
[12]
Originally by: splintercellxxx
first of lets get the picture straight.
he made a noob account 4 weeks ago and war decced the alliance.
for 4 weeks he kept the war dec going and seeing it was a 1 man corp wich was a few days old (as old as the war) more and more people became les and les watchfull.
this morning he probably found the cnr he scanned out 4 weeks ago in a mission and he moved his char to the system and placed the hq there.
then he joined the corp at 08:02 and probably undocked and warped to his prober and at 08:05 the cnr was down.
now im all ok with the complete kill but the 24 hour rule was made to keep this kind of things out of the question (aka people can stash there mission boats and get geared up for the war)
now this is most likely his way of making isk in this game but the way its done is just not done.
(and it wouldn't suprise me when we log back in the game he left the corp again and goes and find a new target)
Clever tactic. You had your 24h to get ready for war, you were still at war and nothing had changed there except your pilots stopped being cautious. It's sneaky but it's playing on player perceptions of danger rather than abusing the war mechanics, and that's what Eve is about. |
splintercellxxx
Gallente
Mindstar Technology
The Kano Organisation
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Posted - 2008.08.24 11:41:00 -
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Edited by: splintercellxxx on 24/08/2008 11:44:36
Originally by: Letava
Originally by: splintercellxxx
first of lets get the picture straight.
he made a noob account 4 weeks ago and war decced the alliance.
for 4 weeks he kept the war dec going and seeing it was a 1 man corp wich was a few days old (as old as the war) more and more people became les and les watchfull.
this morning he probably found the cnr he scanned out 4 weeks ago in a mission and he moved his char to the system and placed the hq there.
then he joined the corp at 08:02 and probably undocked and warped to his prober and at 08:05 the cnr was down.
now im all ok with the complete kill but the 24 hour rule was made to keep this kind of things out of the question (aka people can stash there mission boats and get geared up for the war)
now this is most likely his way of making isk in this game but the way its done is just not done.
(and it wouldn't suprise me when we log back in the game he left the corp again and goes and find a new target)
Clever tactic. You had your 24h to get ready for war, you were still at war and nothing had changed there except your pilots stopped being cautious. It's sneaky but it's playing on player perceptions of danger rather than abusing the war mechanics, and that's what Eve is about.
we actually thought that one man corp would join an alliance to keep the cost down but allas
and tbh a 4 week war dec by a 1 man noob corp gets on your nerfes and apperently its legit to war dec with an alt and after a few weeks get more peeps in and warp to an out of corp alt on top of your target
again i'm not blaming anyone its a dirty trick and the cnr pilot should have always checked local but thats life.
edit : just logged in and indeed the pilot went back to an npc corp
need killboard hosting : killboard hosting
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Fel Flash
The Accursed
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Posted - 2008.08.24 11:50:00 -
[14]
Originally by: splintercellxxx
<whining about pvp in a pvp game>
A corp declared war on another corp, the recieving corp had a member dumb enough to undock his mutli-bil mission running ship, which was promptly killed. I see no problem here. Move along...
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Larkonis Trassler
Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2008.08.24 11:51:00 -
[15]
Ha ha ha ha
Well done indeed.
Assumption of Risk |
Nexus Kinnon
A Few Good Men.
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Posted - 2008.08.24 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: Deitre Cibrus
Originally by: Nexus Kinnon
grats and all that jazz but STOP POSTING THESE THREADS JESUS CHRIST PEOPLE
Only if u stop posting first?
Deitre! <3 I missed you.
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Nexus Kinnon
A Few Good Men.
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Posted - 2008.08.24 11:54:00 -
[17]
Just read the thread, very nice job, smart tactic. 
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whisk
The Movement
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Posted - 2008.08.24 11:56:00 -
[18]
Amazing! congrats!
Adapt or Die
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Sorted
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.08.24 12:01:00 -
[19]
Nice kill!
Vote against the nano nerf!
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=832371
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Kwedaras
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.08.24 12:02:00 -
[20]
Yes, i earn money like that now. its something like showing ccp that whole war system and npc corps needs an overhaul. right now im invulnerable (thanks for npc corps).
Another question is : how can 3 month old character have these modules ? he bought first x-t amp after 2 months of playing game. I worked hard for this kill, i followed him almost every day for past month. Checked his contracts every day, it was amazing how he buys items from insanely overpriced auctions (taking buyouts). Only two possibilities : that character is an alt or the owner is ebayer. And i think its the second variant. If you know how much time your isk worth you wont buy such overpriced items (im talking about invuls, he took buyouts on 5.5 bil when at that time they were sold at about 4 bil). Hell, smarter pilot would have bought multimillion sp pilot for that money. Clearly an ebayer.
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Jilly Serkov
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Posted - 2008.08.24 12:03:00 -
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Edited by: Jilly Serkov on 24/08/2008 12:03:33
Blimey. Last I checked those pith X SBA's push 2-3 bil each on their own. You did get in ahead of the scavengers I hope ?
But seeing this guy's fit, prompts a question - are the tech 2 cap rigs, the two officer CPR's, and skills/implants good enough to provide a sustainable tank ?
Bah, what would C+P know about sustainable tanks ... 
Would anyone else here fit 3 shield boost amps ? If this is to overcome the penalty of the CPR's, why fit this way - I thought PDU's were the norm on these boats ?
Just curious.
Also, I see upset 4 month old new alt of rich character, not necessarily e-bayer. Could be wrong though - I guess CCP will be checking.
J.
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whisk
The Movement
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Posted - 2008.08.24 12:12:00 -
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how many missions you have to do to pay for a raven like that to pay it self..
Adapt or Die
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Joachim Kato
Zawa's Fan Club
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Posted - 2008.08.24 12:38:00 -
[23]
Originally by: whisk
how many missions you have to do to pay for a raven like that to pay it self..
Doubt it would be possible to pronounce the digit without mistaking 4 times along the way. 
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Monkey Saturday
Knights of Chaos
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2008.08.24 12:44:00 -
[24]
I have a feeling I know the pilot in this case. If I'm right and its the same person, kudos! He never took my advice NOT to test a ships tank on war targets 
Thanks for the Maulus BPO nerf! :D |
dark876
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Posted - 2008.08.24 12:46:00 -
[25]
zomg! it actually drops
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Letava
Gallente
Svefn-G-Englar
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Posted - 2008.08.24 12:48:00 -
[26]
I just noticed the quantities dropped
That's getting on for 20B in loot.
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Jilly Serkov
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Posted - 2008.08.24 12:55:00 -
[27]
Originally by: whisk
how many missions you have to do to pay for a raven like that to pay it self..
It doesn't have to pay for itself if you don't lose it (re-sell the assets when bored). Ofc, the key bit is you mustn't lose it ...
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soldieroffortune 258
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.08.24 15:10:00 -
[28]
Edited by: soldieroffortune 258 on 24/08/2008 15:12:14
god, thats just
arggh
how much money did this kid freaking spend on a damned game? honestly
im going to attempt at math:
30 day time cards go for AROUND 150mil last i checked, they cost what 15 IRL dollars?
you said just the invulerability fields cost 4 bil, and this loser bought them for 5.5 bil
so thats 11billion just on the invulerability fields
that is approximatly 7 time codes
thats about 100 IRL dollars spent on ONE SINGLE internet spaceshiP
doesnt even include the other officer crap he had on it
im going to log into game and check how much this loser has spent, ill be back in a few minutes w/ an update
EDIT: fixed a plural where it wasnt needed
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
"Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer"
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Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.08.24 15:31:00 -
[29]
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
Edited by: soldieroffortune 258 on 24/08/2008 15:12:14
god, thats just
arggh
how much money did this kid freaking spend on a damned game? honestly
im going to attempt at math:
30 day time cards go for AROUND 150mil last i checked, they cost what 15 IRL dollars?
you said just the invulerability fields cost 4 bil, and this loser bought them for 5.5 bil
so thats 11billion just on the invulerability fields
that is approximatly 7 time codes
thats about 100 IRL dollars spent on ONE SINGLE internet spaceshiP
doesnt even include the other officer crap he had on it
im going to log into game and check how much this loser has spent, ill be back in a few minutes w/ an update
EDIT: fixed a plural where it wasnt needed
Your maths is made of fail.
using ur 150 mil = 15 dollars, 7 time codes is only 1.1 bil, not 11. You need to add a zero onto your 100 dollars ;)
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soldieroffortune 258
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.08.24 15:41:00 -
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Edited by: soldieroffortune 258 on 24/08/2008 15:44:01
^^^ as i said, my attempt at math
so this kid spent 1000 dollars on a ONE ship in a freaking video game are you f'ing serious?
wow, lets see, i could freaking pay my rent with that 1000 dollars you rich ****, why dont you start sending me some of that rl money
seriously, it should be illegal to spend that much money on a freaking game man, honestly
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
"Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer"
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Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.08.24 15:59:00 -
[31]
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
Edited by: soldieroffortune 258 on 24/08/2008 15:44:01
^^^ as i said, my attempt at math
so this kid spent 1000 dollars on a ONE ship in a freaking video game are you f'ing serious?
wow, lets see, i could freaking pay my rent with that 1000 dollars you rich ****, why dont you start sending me some of that rl money
seriously, it should be illegal to spend that much money on a freaking game man, honestly
What i find funny is that he could have bought a trully amazing char with all that isk if he really wanted to get ahead. Unlike the ship + mods the char lives forever. A maxed out char with a normal raven would probably match the officer pimped 4 month char.
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Malcanis
We are Legend
eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.08.24 19:09:00 -
[32]
Originally by: splintercellxxx
first of lets get the picture straight.
he made a noob account 4 weeks ago and war decced the alliance.
for 4 weeks he kept the war dec going and seeing it was a 1 man corp wich was a few days old (as old as the war) more and more people became les and les watchfull.
this morning he probably found the cnr he scanned out 4 weeks ago in a mission and he moved his char to the system and placed the hq there.
then he joined the corp at 08:02 and probably undocked and warped to his prober and at 08:05 the cnr was down.
now im all ok with the complete kill but the 24 hour rule was made to keep this kind of things out of the question (aka people can stash there mission boats and get geared up for the war)
now this is most likely his way of making isk in this game but the way its done is just not done.
(and it wouldn't suprise me when we log back in the game he left the corp again and goes and find a new target)
Since CCP have ruled that corp cycling is a legitimate way to avoid wardecs, how can anyone complain that corp cycling is a way to enforce them?
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Karentaki
Gallente
Fighting While Intoxicated
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Posted - 2008.08.24 19:31:00 -
[33]
I approve of this product or service!
EPIC KILL on the part of the OP.
EPIC FAIL on the part of the rich kid.
Seriously - who would spend 1000 USD on a GAME? I have never bought a GTC (or ISK) in my life, and I don't intend to. I'd rather save my money for university, and enjoy the game as it was meant to be played.
Quote:
EVE is like a sandbox with landmines. Deal with it.
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CogInTheWheel
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Posted - 2008.08.24 22:07:00 -
[34]
props to op. nice kill.
reminds me of when i played lin2 .. there was one guy, had to be a rich mofo irl cuz he had to ebay at least 25k usd on that game. we had so much fun ganking him and taking his gear.
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Durzel
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.08.25 01:31:00 -
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Edited by: Durzel on 25/08/2008 01:34:52
All that ISK and he only had 4 cruise launchers on a ship with 7 hardpoints? Very strange.
EDIT: I'm blind.
Particularly humourous that he decided to counter gimping his shield boost by using ~4.5bn+ of SBA mods, what's so wrong with regular Capacitor Flux Coils, assuming he actually even needed that much cap recharge (which I can't see how he would've done)
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Bronson Hughes
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering
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Posted - 2008.08.25 16:17:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Doddy
Unlike the ship + mods the char lives forever. A maxed out char with a normal raven would probably match the officer pimped 4 month char.
This is why all of my rather limited GTC sales have gone towards expensive skills. Since skills in your head can't be destroyed, I consider that to be a reasonably safe investment.
To the OP: Nice kill. It's people like you that are the reason why I will never run missions in anything but a plain vanilla Raven with named/T2 mods, but that's all part of the game so good on ya.
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"I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne |
xjen0va1
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Posted - 2008.08.25 16:43:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Bronson Hughes
Originally by: Doddy
Unlike the ship + mods the char lives forever. A maxed out char with a normal raven would probably match the officer pimped 4 month char.
This is why all of my rather limited GTC sales have gone towards expensive skills. Since skills in your head can't be destroyed, I consider that to be a reasonably safe investment.
To the OP: Nice kill. It's people like you that are the reason why I will never run missions in anything but a plain vanilla Raven with named/T2 mods, but that's all part of the game so good on ya.
if you get podded without an upgraded clone what happens then exactly?
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Major PewPew
The Dark Horses
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Posted - 2008.08.25 16:59:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Steinman
somehow i doubt a 4 month old has the sp to equip all that.
somehow i doubt you bothered to check skill requirements for non-t2 items..
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Letava
Gallente
Svefn-G-Englar
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Posted - 2008.08.25 17:32:00 -
[39]
Originally by: xjen0va1
Originally by: Bronson Hughes
Originally by: Doddy
Unlike the ship + mods the char lives forever. A maxed out char with a normal raven would probably match the officer pimped 4 month char.
This is why all of my rather limited GTC sales have gone towards expensive skills. Since skills in your head can't be destroyed, I consider that to be a reasonably safe investment.
To the OP: Nice kill. It's people like you that are the reason why I will never run missions in anything but a plain vanilla Raven with named/T2 mods, but that's all part of the game so good on ya.
if you get podded without an upgraded clone what happens then exactly?
You lose 5% of the SP off the skill with the highest number of SP trained.
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Bronson Hughes
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering
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Posted - 2008.08.25 17:54:00 -
[40]
Originally by: xjen0va1
if you get podded without an upgraded clone what happens then exactly?
You lose time spent training, but you cannot ever lose a skill entirely. Once you spend the money on a skillbook and learn it, it's in your head forever even if you pod yourself to oblivion a million times over.
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"I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne |
Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.08.25 18:24:00 -
[41]
Damn you Kwed, get back to us! I recently started doing this as well and it works like a charm. People see a 1 man corp with a 2 week old alt for a few weeks and get very very relaxed. Scored a few alt kills like that myself.
Keep up the good work and send me some ISK damn you!
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Artemis Rose
Varion Galactic
Accord Corporate Enterprise Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.08.25 21:57:00 -
[42]
Originally by: splintercellxxx
first of lets get the picture straight.
he made a noob account 4 weeks ago and war decced the alliance.
for 4 weeks he kept the war dec going and seeing it was a 1 man corp wich was a few days old (as old as the war) more and more people became les and les watchfull.
this morning he probably found the cnr he scanned out 4 weeks ago in a mission and he moved his char to the system and placed the hq there.
then he joined the corp at 08:02 and probably undocked and warped to his prober and at 08:05 the cnr was down.
now im all ok with the complete kill but the 24 hour rule was made to keep this kind of things out of the question (aka people can stash there mission boats and get geared up for the war)
now this is most likely his way of making isk in this game but the way its done is just not done.
(and it wouldn't suprise me when we log back in the game he left the corp again and goes and find a new target)
Until I read that post, I was thinking "Meh, well it is a shiny kill, congrats". Now some more of the story comes out, I must say.
Very nicely done sir 
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techzer0
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.08.26 05:25:00 -
[43]
Setting up 2 week old character now.
That's too funny... and if I got a kill like that it'd be more than enough to keep my happy for a few months before doing it again
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CCP > Let's play the nerf a race game! Next up minmatar! |
techzer0
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.08.26 05:25:00 -
[44]
Edited by: techzer0 on 26/08/2008 05:25:48
I double posssssted blah
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CCP > Let's play the nerf a race game! Next up minmatar! |
Verx Interis
Amarr
Aurora Security
Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2008.08.26 07:07:00 -
[45]
Edited by: Verx Interis on 26/08/2008 07:14:21
Judging by the 40k damage taken, it seems that his tank didn't really do shit.
Originally by: Doddy
What i find funny is that he could have bought a trully amazing char with all that isk if he really wanted to get ahead. Unlike the ship + mods the char lives forever. A maxed out char with a normal raven would probably match the officer pimped 4 month char.
It happens a lot.
In most other MMO's, getting a high-level character doesn't take much (month or two if you're really working at it), and it's the equipment that counts. In this one, it's the SP and the player skill.
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
(dreadnoughts are also possibly the most boring ship you could fly. It's like mining, without the part where you make money)
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Ricdics
Corporate Placement Holding
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Posted - 2008.08.26 09:08:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Verx Interis
Edited by: Verx Interis on 26/08/2008 07:14:21
Judging by the 40k damage taken, it seems that his tank didn't really do shit.
My bet is that he wasn't shield boosting. He was just sitting in space idle with his hardeners running. So 40k of hardened only damage is actually not too bad especially for a low SP char who's shield related skills are probably not exactly crash hot.
I would love a few of those mods. To the OP let me know if you want to sell one of those Pith X-Types.  |
Joachim Kato
Zawa's Fan Club
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Posted - 2008.08.26 09:55:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Ricdics
Originally by: Verx Interis
Edited by: Verx Interis on 26/08/2008 07:14:21
Judging by the 40k damage taken, it seems that his tank didn't really do shit.
My bet is that he wasn't shield boosting. He was just sitting in space idle with his hardeners running. So 40k of hardened only damage is actually not too bad especially for a low SP char who's shield related skills are probably not exactly crash hot.
I would love a few of those mods. To the OP let me know if you want to sell one of those Pith X-Types.
Or he got 2 or 3 heavy neuts on him - even mail shows, that Paladin had Dual Pulses meaning it was not dps fit and was saving up grid for smth else. Hmmmm.... Wander what for....
Can't beat a neutralizer setup 1 vs 1 (2 vs 2 is a different story tho).
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oilio
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.26 19:29:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Nexa Necis
Damn you Kwed, get back to us! I recently started doing this as well and it works like a charm. People see a 1 man corp with a 2 week old alt for a few weeks and get very very relaxed. Scored a few alt kills like that myself.
Keep up the good work and send me some ISK damn you!
Oops.
http://myeve.eve-online.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=2317&tid=1
Probably be best to stop doing it now
On a side note, maybe CCP will also look at corp-hopping into alt corps to avoid wardecs - that's as much of an exploit as this is. |
Jensius Duo
Digital Fury Corporation
Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.08.26 19:41:00 -
[49]
Hmm, this raven i popped last week...
Quote:
Destroyed Items:
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Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
WTB Your luck!
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Richard Garriott
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Posted - 2008.08.27 01:12:00 -
[50]
In after exploit notification.
Love how carebears abusing the system is fine, but if you attempt to find inovative ways to suprise PvP in this sandbox, PvP oriented game, you get ban warnings.
CCP dissapoints me more and more every day.
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Little Matt
Caldari
New Fnord Industries
Black Scope Project
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Posted - 2008.08.27 04:23:00 -
[51]
And how are Carebears abusing the system?
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Tarron Sarik
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Posted - 2008.08.27 05:14:00 -
[52]
Edited by: Tarron Sarik on 27/08/2008 05:20:02
Originally by: Richard Garriott
In after exploit notification.
Love how carebears abusing the system is fine, but if you attempt to find inovative ways to suprise PvP in this sandbox, PvP oriented game, you get ban warnings.
CCP dissapoints me more and more every day.
Read the notes again. Look at this goofball's corp history. It wasn't the "innovative way" he found PvP that CCP objected to, it was the "innovative way" the bugger AVOIDED PvP that was the problem.
He didn't engage in PvP - he ganked and ran - which in and of itself isn't all bad, but he then used a cheap exploit to avoid any reprisals from the victims. That isn't PvP - it's using a game mechanic to get a free kill, and then using the same mechanic to run and hide in an NPC corp. Really brave guy, eh?
Using throw-away toons and throw-away corps to do it is just as bad as using throw-away corps to HIDE from a war dec. Both abuse the spirit of the game - and it is really disheartening to see so many cheering him on in this cheap style of game play. Do you really want EVE to become a total mess of disposable corps to fit any need?
The problem with this ruling, as I see it, is that it doesn't really stop the abuse of disposable corps from happening - it stops people from joining a corp in the middle of a war dec. I think CCP needs to look at the people who JOIN a corp, ENGAGE a target, and THEN LEAVE the corp that is the problem. The real abuse comes from the combination of all 3 steps. I don't think it is right to stop someone from joining a corp with a war dec - they need to focus on the people who want to LEAVE that corp, especially if they have engaged in PvP since joining.
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Evanga
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Posted - 2008.08.27 07:17:00 -
[53]
Wouldn't it be great being able to wardeck a npc corp member? Just that member. So you can finally get rid of cowards like these...
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Tarron Sarik
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Posted - 2008.08.27 07:43:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Evanga
Wouldn't it be great being able to wardeck a npc corp member? Just that member. So you can finally get rid of cowards like these...
If there was some way that the aggression YOU generated followed you through to the NPC corp - like maybe keeping your war dec status active even though you left the corp... I don't know what the solution is, but this guy ran to an NPC corp within MINUTES of his finishing the kill. Look at his initial post and the killmail he posted. His post was at 9am on the same day as the kill - and the kill was made at 8:05. At the time he made the post, 50 minutes AFTER the kill, he was already safely in his NPC corp. Pathetic.
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Evanga
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Posted - 2008.08.27 07:54:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Tarron Sarik
Originally by: Evanga
Wouldn't it be great being able to wardeck a npc corp member? Just that member. So you can finally get rid of cowards like these...
If there was some way that the aggression YOU generated followed you through to the NPC corp - like maybe keeping your war dec status active even though you left the corp... I don't know what the solution is, but this guy ran to an NPC corp within MINUTES of his finishing the kill. Look at his initial post and the killmail he posted. His post was at 9am on the same day as the kill - and the kill was made at 8:05. At the time he made the post, 50 minutes AFTER the kill, he was already safely in his NPC corp. Pathetic.
That would be a great solution, keeping your wardeck status for like 24hours in case of joining a NPC corp...or something like that. The timeframe thing is irrelevant in this idea but the concept is quite good :)
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Kwedaras
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:35:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Tarron Sarik
Originally by: Evanga
Wouldn't it be great being able to wardeck a npc corp member? Just that member. So you can finally get rid of cowards like these...
If there was some way that the aggression YOU generated followed you through to the NPC corp - like maybe keeping your war dec status active even though you left the corp... I don't know what the solution is, but this guy ran to an NPC corp within MINUTES of his finishing the kill. Look at his initial post and the killmail he posted. His post was at 9am on the same day as the kill - and the kill was made at 8:05. At the time he made the post, 50 minutes AFTER the kill, he was already safely in his NPC corp. Pathetic.
So leaving corp after killing somebody is wrong, but leaving corp when you get wardecked is good ? I could sit in station for a couple of days, so whats the point. just saved time for them.
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Evanga
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:05:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Kwedaras
Originally by: Tarron Sarik
Originally by: Evanga
Wouldn't it be great being able to wardeck a npc corp member? Just that member. So you can finally get rid of cowards like these...
If there was some way that the aggression YOU generated followed you through to the NPC corp - like maybe keeping your war dec status active even though you left the corp... I don't know what the solution is, but this guy ran to an NPC corp within MINUTES of his finishing the kill. Look at his initial post and the killmail he posted. His post was at 9am on the same day as the kill - and the kill was made at 8:05. At the time he made the post, 50 minutes AFTER the kill, he was already safely in his NPC corp. Pathetic.
So leaving corp after killing somebody is wrong, but leaving corp when you get wardecked is good ? I could sit in station for a couple of days, so whats the point. just saved time for them.
yes, it is wrong thats why the exploit notification. I think leaving corp to avoid wardeck is not an exploit. BUT joining an alt corp, gank someone and then quickly join a npc corp is cowardly and thus an exploit. The mechanics were never meant for such an action.
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Kwedaras
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:27:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Evanga
Originally by: Kwedaras
Originally by: Tarron Sarik
Originally by: Evanga
Wouldn't it be great being able to wardeck a npc corp member? Just that member. So you can finally get rid of cowards like these...
If there was some way that the aggression YOU generated followed you through to the NPC corp - like maybe keeping your war dec status active even though you left the corp... I don't know what the solution is, but this guy ran to an NPC corp within MINUTES of his finishing the kill. Look at his initial post and the killmail he posted. His post was at 9am on the same day as the kill - and the kill was made at 8:05. At the time he made the post, 50 minutes AFTER the kill, he was already safely in his NPC corp. Pathetic.
So leaving corp after killing somebody is wrong, but leaving corp when you get wardecked is good ? I could sit in station for a couple of days, so whats the point. just saved time for them.
yes, it is wrong thats why the exploit notification. I think leaving corp to avoid wardeck is not an exploit. BUT joining an alt corp, gank someone and then quickly join a npc corp is cowardly and thus an exploit. The mechanics were never meant for such an action.
nice double standarts here...
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Evanga
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:34:00 -
[59]
you also broke (kind off) a rule of Terms of Service:
Rule 23: You may not exploit any bug in EVE Online to gain an unfair advantage over other players. You may not communicate the existence of any exploitable bug to others directly or through a public forum. Bugs should be reported through the bug reporting tool on our website.
and yes...i have nothing to do at work :P
and OT:
double standarts? You are misusing the whole purpose of NPC corps....
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Kwedaras
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:58:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Evanga
you also broke (kind off) a rule of Terms of Service:
Rule 23: You may not exploit any bug in EVE Online to gain an unfair advantage over other players. You may not communicate the existence of any exploitable bug to others directly or through a public forum. Bugs should be reported through the bug reporting tool on our website.
and yes...i have nothing to do at work :P
and OT:
double standarts? You are misusing the whole purpose of NPC corps....
wow, just wow...
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Terra Mikael
I Am Not A Lawyer
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Posted - 2008.08.27 11:18:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Nexus Kinnon
grats and all that jazz but STOP POSTING THESE THREADS JESUS CHRIST PEOPLE
This.
Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto
All piracy is built upon honoring one's word.
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Joachim Kato
Zawa's Fan Club
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Posted - 2008.08.27 11:19:00 -
[62]
LMAO!!!1 @ these tardz....
Kwedaras was grinding for that kill for the last 2 months or so - he was stalking the dude, watching his contracts daily, watching the guy's movement daily, scanning his setups and shit like that daily. That kill was very well planned and executed. How do I know it? Well he was talking about that CNR back when that guy was flying ridiculously pimped out drake (I beleive 5 or 6 billion isk worth) with me day to day, telling how that guy is pimping out his ship inna unheard of ******ed fashion.
Stop being d-bags - the lad used game mechanics to achieve smth interesting unlike mindless isk grinding, you guys are doing. Thats what he's doing - pwning bears and unaware tardz. Everyone and his grandma's cat petitioned the guy, he was even banned, cuz some bears whined about their precious modules, but GMs unbanned him and refunded him time for the ban, cuz everything he did was according game mechanics, they event tweaked his method of killing bears (forced him to change that method a bit).
You, whiners, are so pathethic - why do you play this game at all? If you have problems parting with your *cough*e-bayed*cough* stuff why don't you play Civilization or smth where you can save and load your progress?
Geeeez.... Gimme a break.... 
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Tarron Sarik
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Posted - 2008.08.27 11:46:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Tarron Sarik on 27/08/2008 11:50:11
Originally by: Joachim Kato
LMAO!!!1 @ these tardz....
Kwedaras was grinding for that kill for the last 2 months or so - he was stalking the dude, watching his contracts daily, watching the guy's movement daily, scanning his setups and shit like that daily. That kill was very well planned and executed. How do I know it? Well he was talking about that CNR back when that guy was flying ridiculously pimped out drake (I beleive 5 or 6 billion isk worth) with me day to day, telling how that guy is pimping out his ship inna unheard of ******ed fashion.
Stop being d-bags - the lad used game mechanics to achieve smth interesting unlike mindless isk grinding, you guys are doing. Thats what he's doing - pwning bears and unaware tardz. Everyone and his grandma's cat petitioned the guy, he was even banned, cuz some bears whined about their precious modules, but GMs unbanned him and refunded him time for the ban, cuz everything he did was according game mechanics, they event tweaked his method of killing bears (forced him to change that method a bit).
You, whiners, are so pathethic - why do you play this game at all? If you have problems parting with your *cough*e-bayed*cough* stuff why don't you play Civilization or smth where you can save and load your progress?
Geeeez.... Gimme a break....
Who's the d-bag you rules lawyer...? Looking for loopholes to exploit so you can gain an unfair (yes, that is the word) advantage over others.
Do I commend this *cough* coward *cough* for his hard work at finding a target? Yes, but abusing the game mechanics is just an exploit - period. Stop trying to proclaim your PvP uberness if all you do is use a loophole in the mechanics to run and hide and keep others from retaliating. You call it good game play, I call it cheating. Exploiting loopholes in any other game would be called that also.
Oh, I forgot. EVE is "special" for guys like you, isn't it? I forgot, it's YOUR game, not ours.
So sorry.
EDIT: And the whole idea of recycling alts and corps is just a mistake. I say it again, do you want to give the carebears the chance to jump ship to alt corps like you do? Next thing you know, we all have an endless cycle of useless alt corps and the game loses a lot of it's character. But then a rules lawyer like yourself and the exploiter OP don't care about the outcome - just your killmails and e-peen. Pathetic.
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Evanga
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Posted - 2008.08.27 12:42:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Tarron Sarik
Edited by: Tarron Sarik on 27/08/2008 11:50:11
Originally by: Joachim Kato
LMAO!!!1 @ these tardz....
Kwedaras was grinding for that kill for the last 2 months or so - he was stalking the dude, watching his contracts daily, watching the guy's movement daily, scanning his setups and shit like that daily. That kill was very well planned and executed. How do I know it? Well he was talking about that CNR back when that guy was flying ridiculously pimped out drake (I beleive 5 or 6 billion isk worth) with me day to day, telling how that guy is pimping out his ship inna unheard of ******ed fashion.
Stop being d-bags - the lad used game mechanics to achieve smth interesting unlike mindless isk grinding, you guys are doing. Thats what he's doing - pwning bears and unaware tardz. Everyone and his grandma's cat petitioned the guy, he was even banned, cuz some bears whined about their precious modules, but GMs unbanned him and refunded him time for the ban, cuz everything he did was according game mechanics, they event tweaked his method of killing bears (forced him to change that method a bit).
You, whiners, are so pathethic - why do you play this game at all? If you have problems parting with your *cough*e-bayed*cough* stuff why don't you play Civilization or smth where you can save and load your progress?
Geeeez.... Gimme a break....
Who's the d-bag you rules lawyer...? Looking for loopholes to exploit so you can gain an unfair (yes, that is the word) advantage over others.
Do I commend this *cough* coward *cough* for his hard work at finding a target? Yes, but abusing the game mechanics is just an exploit - period. Stop trying to proclaim your PvP uberness if all you do is use a loophole in the mechanics to run and hide and keep others from retaliating. You call it good game play, I call it cheating. Exploiting loopholes in any other game would be called that also.
Oh, I forgot. EVE is "special" for guys like you, isn't it? I forgot, it's YOUR game, not ours.
So sorry.
EDIT: And the whole idea of recycling alts and corps is just a mistake. I say it again, do you want to give the carebears the chance to jump ship to alt corps like you do? Next thing you know, we all have an endless cycle of useless alt corps and the game loses a lot of it's character. But then a rules lawyer like yourself and the exploiter OP don't care about the outcome - just your killmails and e-peen. Pathetic.
I salute you Sir :)
so true.
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ClogMan
Caldari
Unknown-Heroes
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Posted - 2008.08.27 13:06:00 -
[65]
Quote:
exploit notification
reported by GM Grimmi | 2008.08.26 15:38:53 | NEW
The practice of insta-joining/leaving warring corporations for the purpose of surprising war targets, or getting them in trouble with CONCORD, is considered an exploit from here on. Reports of this will be investigated on a case by case basis and warnings will be issued at the discretion of the GM. Repeated incidents may result in bans on accounts involved.
Fixed.
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Joachim Kato
Zawa's Fan Club
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Posted - 2008.08.27 13:11:00 -
[66]
Dude just told he's showing CCCP the holes in thier game with NPC corps and crap alike. Why would he wanna fight blob if every second bear just jumps to npc corp after a dec? Don't be rediculous, m8.
He found the target, gathered info, made preparations, killed him (like his copmates couldnt blob him, so don't gimme that bullcrap about no danger gank), left corp and hes invincible. Now you wanna blame a dude for using valid game tactics? Why don't you blame me for undocking, then docking and loging off for a night? I mean it's sorta a feature of the game too....
Why random dude can jump to npc corp to avoid war and another random dude can't for the very same reason, "Mr. Attorney"?
He got objective to earn isk of the demise of some lad and did that without violating EULA and then he just left corp and went minding his own business.
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Joachim Kato
Zawa's Fan Club
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Posted - 2008.08.27 13:18:00 -
[67]
Originally by: ClogMan
Quote:
exploit notification
reported by GM Grimmi | 2008.08.26 15:38:53 | NEW
The practice of insta-joining/leaving warring corporations for the purpose of surprising war targets, or getting them in trouble with CONCORD, is considered an exploit from here on. Reports of this will be investigated on a case by case basis and warnings will be issued at the discretion of the GM. Repeated incidents may result in bans on accounts involved.
Fixed.
LMAO
What's next? Ban guys for locking a dude and baslting him outta his ship? Come on that crap has to stop - now CCCP are nerfing not only ships, mods etc., but ways to earn isk too (lofty, now this).
I remember reading smth like - "EVE is a cold and cruel world....".
EVE Kitty Online - with the nano nurf patch or whatever goes next, you could do that starting screen pink for better immersion of what's happening atm.
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Oli Robbo
Gallente
Galactic Defence Syndicate
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.08.27 13:18:00 -
[68]
Surely the term 'WAR DEC' should be enough of a sufficent message that you can be attacked at any time during that period ?
or am I just using common sense too much?
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Joachim Kato
Zawa's Fan Club
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Posted - 2008.08.27 13:30:00 -
[69]
CCCP keeps nerfing everything what whiners want them to nurf and thats a bit sad really. Well, guess tahts called customer feedback or smth.... 
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Tarron Sarik
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Posted - 2008.08.27 14:01:00 -
[70]
Both of you learn to read, please.
First, I am comparing this tactic to the carebear habit of corp swapping to avoid a war dec. BOTH are exploits, IMO. I don't agree with the notion of disposable corps.
Second, the problem I have with this exploiter's tactics is not that he attacked. It is not that he found a rich target and killed him. It is that IMMEDIATELY after killing the target he drops back into an NPC corp to hide.
THAT is an exploit. It is also not a "war."
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Joachim Kato
Zawa's Fan Club
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Posted - 2008.08.27 14:08:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Joachim Kato on 27/08/2008 14:09:44
Originally by: Tarron Sarik
Both of you learn to read, please.
First, I am comparing this tactic to the carebear habit of corp swapping to avoid a war dec. BOTH are exploits, IMO. I don't agree with the notion of disposable corps.
Second, the problem I have with this exploiter's tactics is not that he attacked. It is not that he found a rich target and killed him. It is that IMMEDIATELY after killing the target he drops back into an NPC corp to hide.
THAT is an exploit. It is also not a "war."
What if he'd quit for npc corp in say 2 days? Wouldn't that be an exploit in yer book?
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Nahnil
Zawa's Fan Club
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Posted - 2008.08.27 14:15:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Tarron Sarik
Oh, I forgot. EVE is "special" for guys like you, isn't it? I forgot, it's YOUR game, not ours.
Judging by the amount of tears that some people produce because of a single kill or loss, this statement is pretty much correct in it's second half.
To the OP, nice work, it's just I twitched seeing dhp... I mean come on.
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Mediastinum
Caldari
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.08.27 14:16:00 -
[73]
It's interesting to read how the players that utilize this mechanic to kill someone, and then leave to an NPC corp to avoid retaliation, publicly state that leaving a war dec'd corp to avoid fighting is an exploit itself, and that people who do so are cowards.
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When you pay for my playtime, you can dictate to me what my opinion should or should not be, until then move along |
Nahnil
Zawa's Fan Club
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Posted - 2008.08.27 14:44:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Mediastinum
(...)and that people who do so are cowards.
But those people dont get to kill billions upon billions worth of caldri navy ravens before they pull off their thing do they.
You could call it lame, but it made him a really one of a time kill and I'm presonally happy for the guy. Especially seeing the victim's age and so on. It's certainly less lame than logging off a freighter before uncloaking after jump, or any of the (too) numerous ways of avoiding fight or death in eve.
He could have used a normal t2 (in his case t1 )fitted raven for the duration of the war, SMART people tend to take precautions when handling VERY expensive things in their posession. And being war decced would be a good reason to take care, not with plain BS after weeks of nothing happening but with that .... thing intelligent guy would be careful for sure. But since the person in question apparently isnt very smart and pretty much can take a blame for his loss I cant get to symapthise with him really. |
KeLLaX
HUNLAR the Almighty
Scalar Federation
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Posted - 2008.08.27 17:58:00 -
[75]
Originally by: splintercellxxx
first of lets get the picture straight.
he made a noob account 4 weeks ago and war decced the alliance.
for 4 weeks he kept the war dec going and seeing it was a 1 man corp wich was a few days old (as old as the war) more and more people became les and les watchfull.
this morning he probably found the cnr he scanned out 4 weeks ago in a mission and he moved his char to the system and placed the hq there.
then he joined the corp at 08:02 and probably undocked and warped to his prober and at 08:05 the cnr was down.
now im all ok with the complete kill but the 24 hour rule was made to keep this kind of things out of the question (aka people can stash there mission boats and get geared up for the war)
now this is most likely his way of making isk in this game but the way its done is just not done.
(and it wouldn't suprise me when we log back in the game he left the corp again and goes and find a new target)
hey if a person is smart enough to pull this off, there is not much to do but to say 'respect!' :) lol
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Oli Robbo
Gallente
Galactic Defence Syndicate
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.08.28 13:01:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Oli Robbo on 28/08/2008 13:03:39
Originally by: Tarron Sarik
Both of you learn to read, please.
First, I am comparing this tactic to the carebear habit of corp swapping to avoid a war dec. BOTH are exploits, IMO. I don't agree with the notion of disposable corps.
Second, the problem I have with this exploiter's tactics is not that he attacked. It is not that he found a rich target and killed him. It is that IMMEDIATELY after killing the target he drops back into an NPC corp to hide.
THAT is an exploit. It is also not a "war." My Life is full of FAIL blah blah blah
I think you should 'learn to read' At no point did I argue that it was/was not an exploit. I was stating that the guy should have used the brain that he was given to acknowledge the fact that he can be attacked at any time...
It is still a war even if they guy did use an exploit in the end, fact.
CCP has now recognised the exploit and as far as the OP, i take my hat off to him. I just wish that I could have thought of it before he did.
And tbh on a side note, If i were CCP, i wouldn't be questioning the OP, i would be questioning the 4month old player with over 20b worth of ship...
Edit.. poor spelling 
something wrong screams out to me there...
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Dire Radiant
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Posted - 2008.08.28 20:19:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Mediastinum
It's interesting to read how the players that utilize this mechanic to kill someone, and then leave to an NPC corp to avoid retaliation, publicly state that leaving a war dec'd corp to avoid fighting is an exploit itself, and that people who do so are cowards.
Corp hopping to avoid war decs was petitioned and ruled legal despite many arguments against it. What kwed and others were doing is the natural evolution.
The really interesting part is that corp hopping to pursue wars is an exploit, yet corp hopping to avoid wars is not.
The PVP solution is actually quite simple. Run >1 alt corp all with active wars that you hop between. Dont go to NPC corp where you become invincible.
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Joachim Kato
Zawa's Fan Club
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Posted - 2008.08.28 22:55:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Dire Radiant
Corp hopping to avoid war decs was petitioned and ruled legal despite many arguments against it. What kwed and others were doing is the natural evolution.
The really interesting part is that corp hopping to pursue wars is an exploit, yet corp hopping to avoid wars is not.
This.
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Johncrab
Minmatar
Typo Corp
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Posted - 2008.08.28 23:16:00 -
[79]
Edited by: Johncrab on 28/08/2008 23:16:46
Originally by: Tarron Sarik
...
He didn't engage in PvP - he ganked and ran - ...
QFT
To the op, congrats on a well planned and executed strike. And very profitable. But very lame that you just ran out of corp to avoid a counter strike. Smart move but lame. |
Tarron Sarik
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Posted - 2008.08.29 00:43:00 -
[80]
The problem with all of this is corp hopping. Corp hopping to avoid a war dec is also an exploit, IMO. This guy just took it all to new heights with disposable characters and disposable corps. Ya, that is EXACTLY what this game needs...
The problem is that it is too damn easy to swap corps - by anyone. It is too damn easy to make and keep a corp active. Look at all the dead corps out there with only 1 member. They clog up the system. Maybe the solution is to make it more expensive to create and operate a corp? I know this will be met by howls of protest by many, but really, if a one-day old toon can make a corp, then maybe there is something wrong with the system...?
The idea of a one-man corp is kind of laughable anyways IMO. I wouldn't be against the idea of membership quotas - something like 5-10 active characters to stay registered as an active corp. I don't really know what the ramifications of this might be, but it might just be good for the game.
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Squirrrel
Gallente
Squirrrel Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.29 15:13:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Nahnil
He could have used a normal t2 (in his case t1 [:lol:
)fitted raven for the duration of the war, SMART people tend to take precautions when handling VERY expensive things in their posession. And being war decced would be a good reason to take care, not with plain BS after weeks of nothing happening but with that .... thing intelligent guy would be careful for sure. But since the person in question apparently isnt very smart and pretty much can take a blame for his loss I cant get to symapthise with him really.
I'll be honest. I've used this same tactic too. (Although not jumped back to another corp within minutes, just tried to kick start some anger in the war by taking a valuable first target down.)
That said, I can't agree with what you say here at all.
There's a world of difference between knowing you're war dec'd by a corp that is actively going to come looking for you at some point, or could do so potentially as you watch their numbers and membership and a single someone (alt) sat in a corp, prolonging a war for weeks on end just because it's ridiculously cheap per week to do so.
There should be a 24 hour limit to being able to participate in a war aswell as the same rule of 24 hours to lose a war dec by leaving a corp.
Otherwise all that will happen is due to the paltry sum of cost incurred, more of these fake wars will be declared, most missioners will leave their corps and start new ones, more and more corp names will die and new ones will spring up in their place and theres no real point to that.
I'm by no means a carebear, nor think that people should be able to easily dodge wars. It just seems too easy to pay for war decs given that money in this game really isn't that hard to come by now and a different system needs to be employed to make the war mechanic truly work, both protecting and exposing both parties to necessary risk.
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Orar Ironfist
Digital assassins
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Posted - 2008.08.29 21:05:00 -
[82]
OP you rule....good gank and nice tactic. You can count onmme as a fan if you continue to fine new and inventive ways to kill bears when they least expect it 
To the whiners your all lame and he used a valid tactic, get over yourselfs and just dont use that much isk on one ship.
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Jones Maloy
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.08.31 10:14:00 -
[83]
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
Edited by: soldieroffortune 258 on 24/08/2008 15:42:24
Edited by: soldieroffortune 258 on 24/08/2008 15:12:14
god, thats just
arggh
how much money did this kid freaking spend on a damned game? honestly
im going to attempt at math:
30 day time cards go for AROUND 150mil last i checked, they cost what 15 IRL dollars?
you said just the invulerability fields cost 4 bil, and this loser bought them for 5.5 bil
so thats 11billion just on the invulerability fields
that is approximatly 73 time codes
thats about 1095 IRL dollars spent on ONE SINGLE internet spaceshiP
doesnt even include the other officer crap he had on it
im going to log into game and check how much this loser has spent, ill be back in a few minutes w/ an update
EDIT: fixed a plural where it wasnt needed
$150 dollars if you buy isk illeagaly. now you see why people do it despite the risks.
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Jones Maloy
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.08.31 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: Joachim Kato
CCCP keeps nerfing everything what whiners want them to nurf and thats a bit sad really. Well, guess tahts called customer feedback or smth....
last i checked the soviet union wasn't running eve-online
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Jones Maloy
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.08.31 10:33:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Tarron Sarik
The idea of a one-man corp is kind of laughable anyways IMO. I wouldn't be against the idea of membership quotas - something like 5-10 active characters to stay registered as an active corp. I don't really know what the ramifications of this might be, but it might just be good for the game.
that would cripple one man pos research operations. interesting idea, but it won't work and needs modification.
some kind of "item cleanup" could work for corps and pos's. i'm not sure what the time limits would be or the mechanics behind it.
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Nexus Kinnon
A Few Good Men.
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Posted - 2008.08.31 11:32:00 -
[86]
TRIPLE POST
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Xasz
AnTi.
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Posted - 2008.08.31 16:37:00 -
[87]
QUAD DAMAGE
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Jonna Andromedae
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Posted - 2008.08.31 21:21:00 -
[88]
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
Edited by: soldieroffortune 258 on 24/08/2008 15:44:01
^^^ as i said, my attempt at math
so this kid spent 1000 dollars on a ONE ship in a freaking video game are you f'ing serious?
wow, lets see, i could freaking pay my rent with that 1000 dollars you rich ****, why dont you start sending me some of that rl money
seriously, it should be illegal to spend that much money on a freaking game man, honestly
Stfu there, if u don't have skills to pay to bills, it shouldn't be problem if someone else has skills to pay the bills 
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floater666
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Posted - 2008.08.31 21:37:00 -
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I didnt touch the gme for months now, just paying the bill every now and than. I now I have to read this stupid ******* actions of CCP, nerfing PVP in a PVP game spitting in the eyes of their old costumers for some extra dollars from mindless grind ***s.
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DarthJosh
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.31 21:59:00 -
[90]
Originally by: floater666
I didnt touch the gme for months now, just paying the bill every now and than. I now I have to read this stupid ******* actions of CCP, nerfing PVP in a PVP game spitting in the eyes of their old costumers for some extra dollars from mindless grind ***s.
qft
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