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ALoneHobo II	Posted - 2008.09.04 20:29:00 - [121] Man hunt woman cook . . . .maybe sexist but it was true back the old caveman days . . . . if woman could hunt better they would have evolved bigger and stronger :P woman support the men and the men make the descicions . . . . . woman are best left in a supporting role and let the heartless choices of men destroy the earth :D
Toshiro GreyHawk	Posted - 2008.09.04 21:21:00 - [122] Ah ... Once upon a time, when I was younger and stupider than I am now ... I was all for Women's Liberation. I figured that outside of a few things involving brute strength a woman's brain was just as good as a man's so there weren't any reasons a woman couldn't do anything a man could do (outside of brute strength). Then one day ... I realized that I did not know any liberated women - and I knew a LOT of women. I knew some that were Feminists but they were so caught up in their own politics that they were morons. I knew a lot that would play the equality card whenever it was to their benefit but then fall back on getting a man to do things for them whenever that was to their benefit. Later on, I worked with a lot of women. They'd all want to be your buddy and pretend like they were one of the guys and all that - but - don't believe it. You get into a disagreement with them and the claws come out. Of course they won't say anything to your face, they'll just go around behind your back to your boss and lie about you. And you've always got to watch their little egos. Say the wrong thing - and they're all in a snit ... so you have to go roll over and pee on yourself to even work with them again. Think about it. Women don't respect themselves - so how can they respect anyone else? I'm not afraid of strong capable women. I like strong capable women. But - what I've seen in my life was that the stronger, more intelligent, more capable the woman - the bigger an ******* she needed to dominate her and make her feel like a woman ... I'm retired now and one of the things I really do not miss about working was having to put up with women. It's like the guys all get along and have their little club and then the girls show up and EVERYTHING has to change. The men have no rights because - the woman is always right. All those jokes you read about women? They're all true. I still haven't changed. I still believe that a woman could do most any job a man could. I still believe that they could be strong, capable people - but they aren't. I wish I was wrong but the simple truth is - women are a pain in the ass. Now ... that doesn't mean you shouldn't be nice to them. Why be mean to them? If you are mean to them you're just being a jerk. For the most part they can't help the way they are. Between biology and socialization ... they just become what they are. Oh - and they are the way they are because of OTHER WOMEN not because of some strictures men have put on them. So ... turn the world over to women? LOL!!!! What a freaking joke. Mostly ... I'd never say this stuff to a woman because it would be a waste of time. The men reading this (unless they've B.S.'d themselves into believing the crap women spout so they can get laid) are gonna know what I mean and the women reading this are just gonna write me off as some kind of slack jawed cave man. So what. One advantage of being old is that there's a lot of stuff you just don't freaking care about any more ... such as women's opinions. My one suggestion to any women reading this who actually want to be strong capable human beings is - stop thinking that you can make the world the kind of place you want it to be simply by pretending it already is that way. Trust me - it isn't. Look at things the way they really are, NOT based on how they effect YOU. Just because something is bad for YOU doesn't mean it's bad for the world. Take up history as a hobby. You can't make money at it ... but take it up as a hobby. Look at how PEOPLE treat each other and try to understand how their past effects the way they think. Spend a few decades at that and you may have some idea of how the world really works. Accept yourself for who you are. If you're freaking ugly - then accept the fact that you're freaking ugly but don't hate the world because of it. And for God's sake don't think you're freaking ugly when you freaking AREN'T. The Truth is your friend.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.09.04 21:40:00 - [123] Holy Napalmed Valley Batman!
drendell	Posted - 2008.09.04 21:49:00 - [124] heres an answer for ya ? this is why women have been abused for along time:) and women should consider themselves lucky the lionesses have it much worse off. they do all the hunting and the males still get first dibs.
Sergeant Spot Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.04 22:28:00 - [125] Originally by: drendell heres an answer for ya ? this is why women have been abused for along time:) and women should consider themselves lucky the lionesses have it much worse off. they do all the hunting and the males still get first dibs. I'm not a Christian. I'm hardcore Agnostic (which means I am NOT a borderline Atheist) 99.99% of modern christian bashing is simple low brow ignorant knuckle dragging bigotry based on distortions and a few out right lies. I actually find talking with Christians about the the nature faith and existance much more refreshing and open minded than "most" Atheists (although a few Atheists truely are free thinkers and don't get a wild hair up their butt over folks who have faith....) Play nice while you butcher each other.
Sharupak Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.09.04 23:03:00 - [126] Edited by: Sharupak on 04/09/2008 23:04:11 Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk stuff Yes, these women exist, they are in every workplace anyone has ever set foot in so I will even go so far as to say that this isnt a small sect of women you are talking about. But they matchup just as equally to that slack ass dipshit that if you ever saw in a bar, you would roll his ass at the drop of a hat. That smooth tongue ass kissing brown noser. Or how about that guy that has the pictures all over his desk of beautiful family but he is never in it because he is trying to disparately rub it up against the office hottie. Both of these ******s are always in management. Managing women. Whats worse is that there are those women that are as equally manipulative and portray her manager as either example I just listed when in fact the guy is a stand up dude. I think you pointed that out succinctly. But that arguement just doesnt fly anymore because women are cops, soldiers, olympians, CEOs, politicians. While Michael phelps was wining 8 gold medals there was another woman that lost the gold by .001 seconds. What was so cool about it was that she was 41 years old! I mean holy shit she dusted like 18 other professional athletes in their prime at the top of their careers that were half her age! My wife coordinated weapons assets for an entire naval battlegroup as an E-5 in the persian gulf. She was telling male and female pilots where to fly what targets to collect data on and had the power to give them the green light on anything afloat. In the workplace, there are shitbag women, but TBH, there are just as many shitbag men. Why dont we just classify them as shitbags instead of trying to separate the unseparatable. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.
JAQUE ALERA	Posted - 2008.09.04 23:24:00 - [127] This topic proved interesting reading with responses across the spectrum. I was prompted to post by thinking of Sarah Palin as the president following McCain having a stroke from one of his famous exhibitions of temper. I have a great wife, two amazing kids and a strong respect of woman from having many great ones come through my life. Lovers, friends, mentors, bosses, co-workers and employees; women have shown me the importance of emotional intelligence and the use of soft skills in developing a well rounded approach to being a human being. Everyone is shaped by experience. If your experiences have taught you to see the short comings of the fairer sex then I understand your differing opinion. I willfully choose to see the potential and positive character traits I've experienced and learned from. I would like to thank one of the posters for making me look up a word: phi+log+y+ny [fi-loj-uh-nee] noun- love of or liking for women. Guilty as charged. What would this world be like without them? An observation on forum posting. Broad generalizations are the most effective way of engendering a response. The more detailed you make your OP the more likely you'll get a "wall of text" or "tl;dr" response. Eve is unique in it's OOPE forum that it has a world wide readership with many differing backgrounds. I tend to read/post in many economic/news/political blogs. The readerships there tend to stay on topic and will only respond to the appropriate subject matter. Final thought. What if the post's topic would have been: "Put (any ethnic/nationality/race) in charge. The charges of racism for any counter argument would have had the thread locked quickly. Why is it ok to exhibit misogyny and sexism? Funny to consider how women are allowed to be targeted without fear of being perceived in an unflattering way.
Elanai	Posted - 2008.09.05 00:12:00 - [128] Edited by: Elanai on 05/09/2008 00:12:42 Im curious to know if the OP thinks women even deserve or need a simplistic definition to live by? (Given by a man that is)
Amandin Adouin Minmatar	Posted - 2008.09.05 01:27:00 - [129] Edited by: Amandin Adouin on 05/09/2008 01:36:35 First of all /salute Jaque. I appreciate your understanding and intelligent, reasonable tact. The Europeans and Americans in this thread are coming from vastly different places, for the most part that is. I think the key to life in general is moderation, and as you said, a soft touch. It's when we begin to think in extremes and to have hair trigger reflex reactions that there is a problem. I wrote out a long post, and the forums ate it. I don't think I have it in me to do it again. Suffice it to say that I was thinking the same thing you were Jaque, about how if this thread were about a different "minority" group, it would never have received the comments it did - the venomous comments, the patronizing jokes. The fact that it did, that's its so socially acceptable to act this way, well... I've never been a feminist. I consider myself a moderate. But I decided to carry the feminist torch for awhile yesterday and it turned out to be pretty eye-opening. I can't believe how the comments I made raised the hackles on some of these backs. This topic seems to breed backlash in a very major way, and it only serves to substantiate my reasoning. Many of the guys gave well thought out and reasonable sounding posts, but their thought processes were underscored with the same attitude I originally spoke of. I'm sure many of them go through their lives as regular Joes... they have wives, mothers, bosses who are women. No one would ever accuse them of being sexist. And they're not. But American culture is. And it's rooted so deep, that many guys and girls don't even see it. And then there's Toshiro. While I respect his diction and mastery of the language, and I have to respect the avenues in life that brought him to the specific place he is in life, I can only shake my head. The fact that he summed up his whole write-up with a paragraph on the need for girls to have more self confidence and know they're "cute" makes his mindset clear. And I can't believe he stated 'you guys know what I'm talking about here' and I didn't see a dozen 'No you don'ts'. Whatever. A phrase I always think about: If you went through your whole life walking in my shoes, you would be exactly where I am today. Women and men aren't that different. But our society has perpetauted this myth and we continue to perpetuate it even more. And I'm dismayed right now. I don't like to judge people. I've just never thought about this topic as much as I did today.
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Umbra Synergy Final Retribution Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.05 01:27:00 - [130] we should put penguins in charge, penguins are always happy, who ever heard of a penguin war see its brilliant, let the happy little birds lead us to harmony! Applebabe ate my signature :( but the fish hat forgives! Nemotology is the EvE religion of choice!
Elanai	Posted - 2008.09.05 01:36:00 - [131] Edited by: Elanai on 05/09/2008 01:36:20 Quote: Many of the guys gave well thought out and reasonable sounding posts, but their thought processes were underscored with the same attitude I originally spoke of. Nailed.
nahtoh Caldari StrikerCorp	Posted - 2008.09.05 01:43:00 - [132] Originally by: JAQUE ALERA emotional intelligence Which is what exactly? How you conform? Or where to stick that emotional barb where it will the most damage? Or my personal fav, a way of making overly emotional yoyos feel better about their lack of control over their emotions... ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Elanai	Posted - 2008.09.05 01:47:00 - [133] Quote: Which is what exactly? How you conform? Or where to stick that emotional barb where it will the most damage? Or my personal fav, a way of making overly emotional yoyos feel better about their lack of control over their emotions...Twisted Evil rofl
Abrazzar	Posted - 2008.09.05 02:03:00 - [134] Originally by: nahtoh Originally by: JAQUE ALERA emotional intelligence Which is what exactly? How you conform? Or where to stick that emotional barb where it will the most damage? Or my personal fav, a way of making overly emotional yoyos feel better about their lack of control over their emotions... Emotinal Intelligance from my personal definition is the ability to grasp and understand the sub-conscious and emotial motivation and processes of yourself and other people. You may call it "Empathy". Emotional Intelligence and the normal, let's call it "Scientific", intelligence isn't really gender specific. Differences occur only due to different societal influences on the cerebral development in male and female children. The only difference between male and female humans should be in simple physiology, that is menstruation and pregnancy. Not sure if females are in a similar dire need to get the 'pressure off their genitals' as males are. Putting the females to power at this time and human evolution would just lead to a different shade of atrocity but not to a betterment of mankind. Reason and compassion would have to gain authority over the simple instincts of fear greed and hate first for any 'higher' evolution of mankind. tl;dr Women are as stupid as Men. -------- Ideas for: Mining
Amandin Adouin Minmatar	Posted - 2008.09.05 02:13:00 - [135] Edited by: Amandin Adouin on 05/09/2008 02:15:08 Originally by: Elanai Quote: I appreciate your understanding and intelligent, reasonable tact. Uhuuh... Oh come on . I see where you're coming from with this, but in the face of all this backlash and assholitry (), I'd rather support the supporters than turn my back on those aligned with me. Edit: Nice explanation Abrezzar. I agree with you 100%. P.S. They're not. Until they hit their mid 20's to early 30's, the other cruel trick of Mother Nature .
Sodium Phosphate Gallente Killer Koalas Kingdom of Butan	Posted - 2008.09.05 02:14:00 - [136] You guys know of any other forums that get this good of a discussion going? Seriously, I need to ween myself of EVE-O, its hurting my uni grades.
Amandin Adouin Minmatar	Posted - 2008.09.05 02:16:00 - [137] Edited by: Amandin Adouin on 05/09/2008 02:17:36 I know right? I'm gonna get fired from my freakin job if I can't curb my newest addiction. I love Eve players though - the game seems to weed out the unintelligent. And uncool.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2008.09.05 02:21:00 - [138] Originally by: Amandin Adouin Edited by: Amandin Adouin on 05/09/2008 02:17:36 I know right? I'm gonna get fired from my freakin job if I can't curb my newest addiction. I love Eve players though - the game seems to weed out the unintelligent. And uncool. looks into General Discussion and COAD. Say WHAT?!? -------- Ideas for: Mining
Sharupak Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.09.05 02:21:00 - [139] Originally by: Amandin Adouin Edited by: Amandin Adouin on 05/09/2008 01:50:15 First of all /salute Jaque. Jaque - I appreciate your understanding and intelligent, reasonable tact. The Europeans and Americans in this thread are coming from vastly different places, for the most part that is. I think the key to life in general is moderation, and as you said, a soft touch. It's when we begin to think in extremes and to have hair trigger reflex reactions that there is a problem. I wrote out a long post, and the forums ate it. I don't think I have it in me to do it again. Suffice it to say that I was thinking the same thing you were Jaque, about how if this thread were about a different "minority" group, it would never have received the comments it did - the venomous comments, the patronizing jokes. The fact that it did, that's its so socially acceptable to act this way, well... I've never been a feminist. I consider myself a moderate. But I decided to carry the feminist torch for awhile yesterday and it turned out to be pretty eye-opening. I can't believe how the comments I made raised the hackles on some of these backs. This topic seems to breed backlash in a very major way, and it only serves to substantiate my reasoning. Many of the guys gave well thought out and reasonable sounding posts, but their thought processes were underscored with the same attitude I originally spoke of. I'm sure many of them go through their lives as regular Joes... they have wives, mothers, bosses who are women. No one would ever accuse them of being sexist. And they're not. But American culture is. And it's rooted so deep, that many guys and girls don't even see it. And then there's Toshiro. While I respect his diction and mastery of the language, and I have to respect the avenues in life that brought him to the specific place he is in life, I can only shake my head. Referring to womens' "little egos" and the comment 'Women don't respect themselves - so how can they respect anyone else?' are such absurdly broad generalizations, that combined with the fact that he summed up his whole write-up with a sentence on the need for girls to have more self confidence and know they're "cute" makes his mindset clear. And I can't believe he stated 'you guys know what I'm talking about here' and I didn't see a dozen 'No you don'ts'. Whatever. A phrase I always think about: If you went through your whole life walking in my shoes, you would be exactly where I am today. Women and men aren't that different. But our society has perpetauted this myth and we continue to perpetuate it even more. And I'm dismayed right now. I don't like to judge people. I've just never thought about this topic as much as I did today. Ok, do you realize that you just made a generalization based on a 5 page thread composed of mostly ignorant imature humor generalizations by American teenagers on the interwebs? It is not a flame, just point out how easy this is to do as I am guilty of it all the time. I will say that American culture (if that is what you want to call it...we dont really have a culture) does promote sexism (which is what I think you might have actually ment). From an economic standpoint, women are the backbone of the american economy and corporations want to control women to buy their products. This mental warfare starts as soon as girls can read when they get a 24/7 onslaught of of imagery designed to show the way to be liked in american culture. They must become an object to be possessed. The imagery for men is pretty straight foward. We are being programed to possess that object. Us men are still in a slow transition of unlearning the bullshit our fathers taught us about women which figure heavily into it as well and stems back all the way to our jacked up puritanistic ideal system that was ejected from England. I am sexist, I still say stupid dismissive crap to my wife without thinking about what I am saying. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.
Elanai	Posted - 2008.09.05 02:21:00 - [140] Edited by: Elanai on 05/09/2008 02:23:14 Quote: I'd rather support the supporters than turn my back on those aligned with me. sigh I suppose. In favor of...
Sodium Phosphate Gallente Killer Koalas Kingdom of Butan	Posted - 2008.09.05 02:26:00 - [141] Edited by: Sodium Phosphate on 05/09/2008 02:28:21 EDIT: for revision, I need to think more.
Elanai	Posted - 2008.09.05 02:56:00 - [142] Quote: EDIT: for revision, I need to think more. Think well instead.
Sodium Phosphate Gallente Killer Koalas Kingdom of Butan	Posted - 2008.09.05 02:57:00 - [143] Originally by: Elanai Quote: EDIT: for revision, I need to think more. Think well instead. True.
Toshiro GreyHawk	Posted - 2008.09.05 04:54:00 - [144] Originally by: Sharupak Edited by: Sharupak on 04/09/2008 23:04:11 Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk stuff more stuff. There are *****s of every sex whatever you call them. And yes you have lots of women who are out there doing all kinds of jobs. That doesn't change anything. Despite any achievements they might make, most women are plagued by insecurities and self hatred. Some are worse than others but most of them have these problems. And - these problems are not the result of anything men have done to them - it is what women do to themselves that is the problem. Just listen to women talk and it's all "Oh ... I'm so incompetent ... Oh I'm such a screw up ..." As to the posts on race and sex - last I checked they weren't the same thing. Originally by:** Amandin Adouin Edited by: Amandin Adouin on 05/09/2008 02:12:56 ... (lots of stuff that if I include it in the post I won't have any room to say anything myself) Ha! Ha! American Culture is sexist and European Culture isn't ... Oh my gosh ... Self delusion at it's height. I've known a lot of Europeans too and they are just as sexist as we are. Of course - by sexist - I'm referring to men AND women. Sadly - there was nothing absurd about my generalizations of women. I wish you were right - but you aren't. They really are that way - and I mean all of them. If you can't see that - well then you're lost in the forest and have all these trees in the way. (That means you can't see the truth because your own point of view obscures it). As to why I was not universally decried by a bunch of guys? Well that's because they, for the most part, do know that I'm right. I haven't said a thing most guys don't know as simple facts of life. Telling women to think of themselves as being cute when they are makes WHAT mindset clear? That it saddens me to think of all the little Karen Carpenters out there who starved themselves to death because they thought they were fat? Men and women aren't that different ... compared to ... say ... ants. But - compared to each other - yeah ... they are really different but it would take a whole seperate post to go into that. As to your being dismayed ... well ... there were times (not concerning women) when I cried realizing the way the world is ... Compared to a lot of stuff that goes on ... women's problems are for the most part minor - at least in the modern, western, industrialized states .... Take off your rose colored glasses and embrace the world for the horrible place it is. Then ... after a while - you'll get used to it and won't be so dismayed ... well ... maybe you will ... but it won't be a big surprise any more ... The up side of seeing the world the way it really is - is that you apprecieate the good things a LOT more.
Taradis Amarr The Imperial Assassins Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.09.05 05:01:00 - [145] Originally by: Kyanzes Edited by: Kyanzes on 03/09/2008 17:38:01 With women in power we would have: - hideous wars without end - sudden changes in politics, probably on a week-by-week basis - fights would occur every day in the parliament - decrees would be enacted out of emotional discharge - p0rn would be abolished (OMG, already a cause not to let them into power) - women would have a week off every month with salary Men tend to shutter when Aunt Flo visits everymonth I know I do.... Aunt Flo is agravating to no ends kinda like that aunt that u wish would only visit once a yr give or take...
Taradis Amarr The Imperial Assassins Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.09.05 05:04:00 - [146] Originally by: drendell heres an answer for ya ? this is why women have been abused for along time:) and women should consider themselves lucky the lionesses have it much worse off. they do all the hunting and the males still get first dibs. Tis tru I am a Leo
Taradis Amarr The Imperial Assassins Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.09.05 05:05:00 - [147] Originally by: Amandin Adouin Edited by: Amandin Adouin on 05/09/2008 02:17:36 I know right? I'm gonna get fired from my freakin job if I can't curb my newest addiction. I love Eve players though - the game seems to weed out the unintelligent. And uncool. Well Thanks I luv u 2 I play eve so ya I'm cool and intelligent better than those "other people who don't play eve"
Mankirks Wife	Posted - 2008.09.05 05:22:00 - [148] I treat everyone the same. If they have issues they can feel free to **** off. I find applying this strategy religiously in my everyday life causes most issues with women (and men) to be self-correcting. ---
Sakura Nihil Stimulus	Posted - 2008.09.05 06:25:00 - [149] Women are human just like us. Labeling one gender as destructive and one as constructive is too black and white. More women in power though tbh, please. Football? Hell yes.
Rawrior Gallente Neo Spartans	Posted - 2008.09.05 09:24:00 - [150] Originally by: Sakura Nihil Women are human just like us. Labeling one gender as destructive and one as constructive is too black and white. More women in power though tbh, please. d _____ TEH FORUM POLICE!!1!11!@2!

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