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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.09.10 12:55:00 -
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some of the worst off people in the world cant be helped. their government wont let us in with food and if we give money the warlords just buy guns and missiles.
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2008.09.10 12:58:00 -
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In many cases it is perfectly possible to attach conditions to aid.
http://www.imf.org/external/np/exr/facts/prsp.htm
This works more than it doesn't.
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Benilopax
Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.09.10 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: SoftRevolution Unless I'm being dim, it appears Iter is another experimental project with no guarantee of actually achieving that objective. The timeline on their website which may or may not be hopelessly optimistic has work on the first commercial fusion power plant starting in 42 years time.
Yeah without any BREAKTHROUGHS thats the plodding along prediction.
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kor anon
Amarr Sons Of The Fallen BROTHERS GRIM.
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Posted - 2008.09.10 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Nyakk Tradetard oh c'mon. without diseases, without hunger and death everywhere earth would be overpopulated in a short amount of time. we wouldnt have reasons to fight, we wouldnt have reasons to invent, we wouldnt have reasons to find other habitable planets.
i think the op is very shortminded and would need a proper thinkthrough
The earth is already overpopulated, ~5x the amount our planet can handle. Not to sound callous but i call for WW3
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.10 13:38:00 -
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Let's not forget that that we'd not have the internet as we know it were it not for CERN.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Dionisius
Gallente Vagabundos
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Posted - 2008.09.10 13:50:00 -
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Actually i am really hoping this experiment goes well, not because of the tiny black hole that will suck us all into it and make your last moments go on for thousands and thousands of years BUT! due to the wonderfull new conclusions and theorys that will push our physics and conception of the world and universe years and years foward.
This could be the start of a new age. :-) _____________________________________
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Sharupak
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.09.10 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Liberator 1 Edited by: Liberator 1 on 10/09/2008 07:52:10 There should be a list of problems that we, humanity should attempt to solve. It starts like this:
1. Stop people dying from lack of water/clean water. 2. Feed the starving. 3. Stop people from dying of entirely preventable diseases like TB,flu,diarrhoea etc. . . 345. Go back to the moon. . . . 567. Go to Mars. . . 894. Build a giant particle accelerator to answer a question most people don't care about much less understand so some scientists can go 'Oh yeah, thats why we have mass then.'
We are doomed, not because it will make a black hole and destroy the Earth, but because we are too stupid to save ourselves.
I certainly agree that those things are far more important, but no amount of money will solve those problems, only a mass human behavioral change can do that. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude. |
Karentaki
Gallente Fighting While Intoxicated Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.09.10 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Liberator 1 And transistors was 1925.
My point is that its silly spending money on crazy science toys when people are dying and that problem is entirely solvable.
Right yeah, lets go out and give them herbal remedies and possibly some magic potions. After all, no money can be spent on developing our technology can it? SILLY experiments like the LHC are responsible for many of the things which are currently stopping people from dying. Now, please cancel your EVE subscription, and instead donate that money to starving children...
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.09.10 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: Sharupak
Originally by: Liberator 1 Edited by: Liberator 1 on 10/09/2008 07:52:10 There should be a list of problems that we, humanity should attempt to solve. It starts like this:
1. Stop people dying from lack of water/clean water. 2. Feed the starving. 3. Stop people from dying of entirely preventable diseases like TB,flu,diarrhoea etc. . . 345. Go back to the moon. . . . 567. Go to Mars. . . 894. Build a giant particle accelerator to answer a question most people don't care about much less understand so some scientists can go 'Oh yeah, thats why we have mass then.'
We are doomed, not because it will make a black hole and destroy the Earth, but because we are too stupid to save ourselves.
I certainly agree that those things are far more important, but no amount of money will solve those problems, only a mass human behavioral change can do that.
too true ________________________ I'M POOR
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Dionisius
Gallente Vagabundos
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Posted - 2008.09.10 15:04:00 -
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Quote: some of the worst off people in the world cant be helped. their government wont let us in with food and if we give money the warlords just buy guns and missiles.
Interesting accessment of things, now let me put another perspective in the table,
One country owes alot of money to the rest of the world, yet the rest of the world can't collect because their economies are also dependant on that country.
The rest of the world pays the said country for their luxuries wich are spoiled in God knows what, and a fair chunk of the rest of the world faces serious hunger and health problems wich are ignored by both the first portion and the owner country.
While we argue who's fault it is people are dying , some due to the stupidity of governments, others due to circumstances they cannot control and yet others due to hunger and disease.
Some may say that this project can kill us all and its a waste of money, to the first assumption i only say, if we all have to go, well bye mom!, to the second i believe science and knowledge is never wasted money, what is a waste is people dying because some idiot wanted to play wargames vs some lunatic in some God forsaken desert and now people are dying, food prices are up etc etc and so on.
Conclusion, consider yourselves lucky and blessed you can post on some internet spaceships forums and have a roof over your heads, food on your table and can walk the streets without having a soldier or a fighter waving a machine gun next to your heads.
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.09.10 15:09:00 -
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Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 10/09/2008 15:09:20 The whinage in this thread hits you for a wrecking blow of 34746.15
You are ejected from this thread.
oh damn.....
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rValdez5987
Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.
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Posted - 2008.09.10 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Liberator 1 Edited by: Liberator 1 on 10/09/2008 07:52:10 There should be a list of problems that we, humanity should attempt to solve. It starts like this:
1. Stop people dying from lack of water/clean water. 2. Feed the starving. 3. Stop people from dying of entirely preventable diseases like TB,flu,diarrhoea etc. . . 345. Go back to the moon. . . . 567. Go to Mars. . . 894. Build a giant particle accelerator to answer a question most people don't care about much less understand so some scientists can go 'Oh yeah, thats why we have mass then.'
We are doomed, not because it will make a black hole and destroy the Earth, but because we are too stupid to save ourselves.
You seem to have forgotten about natural selection. It is not my job to feed someone who is too stupid to feed themselves. It is not my job to take care of someone who does not contribute to society in any way shape or form from a country that has no real government.
It is the responsibility of a nation to care for its OWN people, not the responsibility of the rest of the world.
Even with the starvation and death we are still quickly becoming overpopulated.
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.09.10 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: kor anon
The earth is already overpopulated, ~5x the amount our planet can handle. Not to sound callous but i call for WW3
Either that or a good old fashioned, roman-style culling.
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Arzinoe
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Posted - 2008.09.10 15:38:00 -
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we need a new kind of disease for control the world hyperpoblation and maybe more ppl trying to destroy the world
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Karentaki
Gallente Fighting While Intoxicated Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.09.10 15:40:00 -
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This thread needs more: LHC THEME SONG!!!
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EVE is like a sandbox with landmines. Deal with it.
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2008.09.10 15:53:00 -
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Edited by: SoftRevolution on 10/09/2008 15:55:02
Originally by: Reven Cordelle
Originally by: kor anon
The earth is already overpopulated, ~5x the amount our planet can handle. Not to sound callous but i call for WW3
Either that or a good old fashioned, roman-style culling.
Yes.
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kor anon
Amarr Sons Of The Fallen BROTHERS GRIM.
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Posted - 2008.09.10 16:30:00 -
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Edited by: kor anon on 10/09/2008 16:30:59 Another solution is enforcing a worldwide population control. Only the best 10% of human stock are allowed to breed. Of course his would have to be enforced over several decades to bring the world population to acceptable levels
^ holy shit that second link is hilarious
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Sharupak
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.09.10 16:36:00 -
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Ok, what makes you so sure you guys would be chosen over being wiped off the map? It wont work that way, because the people that "run" the culling or disease launching or war are going to make sure they and their buddies and their children no matter how ******ed, exist at the end of the day.
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Callib Gor'Karrithe
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.09.10 16:38:00 -
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Perhaps the OP just has something against science and the pursuit of knowledge in general.
You see and hear this kind of tripe from people who simply do NOT understand a particular issue. This is most common when the issue being shouted out against is one of an extreme technical and scientific matter. Some people need to accept that, when they don't fully understand something, they should probably not talk about how that something is a waste of money.
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kor anon
Amarr Sons Of The Fallen BROTHERS GRIM.
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Posted - 2008.09.10 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Sharupak Ok, what makes you so sure you guys would be chosen over being wiped off the map? It wont work that way, because the people that "run" the culling or disease launching or war are going to make sure they and their buddies and their children no matter how ******ed, exist at the end of the day.
I am 90% certain that i would die, but i care more about the species than myself. By instigating a WW as i suggested, no one would control it. I dont mean like WW's of the past but a true World War were every single country/city/village is embroiled in warfare. Remember what doesn't kill us only makes us stronger
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.09.10 17:12:00 -
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Edited by: Pwett on 10/09/2008 17:13:23 To the op:
All your early points can be solved by eating the poor.
Originally by: kor anon
The earth is already overpopulated, ~5x the amount our planet can handle. Not to sound callous but i call for WW3
Yeah, it's really gonna suck when the other planets embargo their food goods to us; we're all gonna starve.
If we're here, the world can support us - that's really all there is. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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kor anon
Amarr Sons Of The Fallen BROTHERS GRIM.
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Posted - 2008.09.10 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Pwett Edited by: Pwett on 10/09/2008 17:13:23 To the op:
All your early points can be solved by eating the poor.
Originally by: kor anon
The earth is already overpopulated, ~5x the amount our planet can handle. Not to sound callous but i call for WW3
Yeah, it's really gonna suck when the other planets embargo their food goods to us; we're all gonna starve.
If we're here, the world can support us - that's really all there is.
Oversimplified tosh. Yes we are here but the natural resources are running the **** out. by 'handling' I and more intelligent people know this means sustainability. At our current population level the earth cannot sustain us indefinately.
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Thorliaron
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.09.10 17:51:00 -
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why am i still alive? thought we where all supposed to be dead by now.
love how all the doomsday people have latched on to this with both hands and the same with all the planet x/ myan calander people.
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Captain Hudson
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.09.10 17:56:00 -
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Hawkings said the LHC cant destroy the world, dunno why but i trust this bloke more than the nutters that are saying it will
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Sharupak
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.09.10 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: kor anon
Originally by: Sharupak Ok, what makes you so sure you guys would be chosen over being wiped off the map? It wont work that way, because the people that "run" the culling or disease launching or war are going to make sure they and their buddies and their children no matter how ******ed, exist at the end of the day.
I am 90% certain that i would die, but i care more about the species than myself. By instigating a WW as i suggested, no one would control it. I dont mean like WW's of the past but a true World War were every single country/city/village is embroiled in warfare. Remember what doesn't kill us only makes us stronger
Do you not think your contribution to the human collective consciousness is valuable?
TBH, there is no way using up resources will ensure extinction so dont worry about it. Resources running out will pretty much do what WW3 would do so sit tight, its gonna work out for you. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude. |
SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2008.09.10 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Sharupak Ok, what makes you so sure you guys would be chosen over being wiped off the map? It wont work that way, because the people that "run" the culling or disease launching or war are going to make sure they and their buddies and their children no matter how ******ed, exist at the end of the day.
That was pretty much my point.
Social darwinist types who think the world operates as any kind of meritocracy are deluded.
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kor anon
Amarr Sons Of The Fallen BROTHERS GRIM.
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Posted - 2008.09.10 18:03:00 -
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Not for me to decide atm im nowhere close to the top 10%, if i prove myself to be worth it then so be it, if not too bad. I can say that although I would love my bloodline to continue, if it is not up to scratch it should be discarded. You may think this grim, but i find it quite comforting in the knowledge that my species will go on without the chaff.
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Truk Mei
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Posted - 2008.09.10 18:03:00 -
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The Tempur-Pedic Mattress ....
Science is the shit.
Let them starve. Darfur Who ??? ... Sudan what ???
Lets cure the ****ing hangover first, then we'll talk about saving shit ....
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Nigel Sheldon
Caldari ADAMA Corps Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.09.10 18:06:00 -
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can't be assed to read all of the thread, but I get the point....this will acomplish nothing.
WRONG!
As a by product of this already we have the internet! and a future project coming from this is something I forget the name, that will make the internet look like pen and paper!
For god sakes 5 billion is nothing, the us military spend that before breakfast! And if it leads to a cure for cancer with the better imagery I am sure you won't be moaning then....go jump of a bridge you imbecilles.
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Sharupak
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.09.10 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: kor anon Not for me to decide atm im nowhere close to the top 10%, if i prove myself to be worth it then so be it, if not too bad. I can say that although I would love my bloodline to continue, if it is not up to scratch it should be discarded. You may think this grim, but i find it quite comforting in the knowledge that my species will go on without the chaff.
Not grim only partially true. You can only determine strongest survival traits of the ones that came before us because we have already been there and we know how it turns out in the present. NOBODY knows what the strong survival traits that carry the human species into the future. This is because while evolution is a fact, our actual understanding of possibilities, environment predictions, and also predicting methods human beings discover to survive and prosper in the future are so so very minute and extremely linear in scope. The Human species is a very dynamic and erratic thing.
Now all that being said, if its something like you dont think you are smart enough to be in the top 10% of humans? depends on what you are smart at. TBH, WW3, I am positive would wipe every single soul of our intellectual community right off the ****ing map. There goes the IQ crowd. Many extrememly intelligent people only thrive because of the technological tools developed by someone before them. Thats cool though because tools are part of our evolution and they use them to help advance the rest of us regardless of how capable we actually are. The point is that it is evolution! Evolution is the essence of creatures deciding! Evolution follows what a species decided to do in their environment. Fish didnt develop feet from fins before they set foot on land, they developed them after! Having a big ****, being faster, jumping higher, and being more physically capable to kick someones ass with you fists evolved us to this point, but will likely be the factors that spell our ruin.
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