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LiNuXb0y Amarr LaMar Associates	Posted - 2008.09.11 00:07:00 - [1] So me and a few corp mates were talking about the new power of 2 offer, they mentioned that it was 49.95 US dollers for 6 months which seemed like an awesome deal to get an alt. I decided to check my emails to check it out in more detail, upon inspection of my email I noticed that the price was 49.95 Euros not dollers. I ran a currency conversion (both into English pounds as I'm English) and it turns out that us European players are paying 11.30 more English pounds (19.88 US Dollers) then US players. This is not fare and should be addressed, why should we pay almost $70 when you pay $49?
ThaDollaGenerale The Priory	Posted - 2008.09.11 00:09:00 - [2] Because uhh. ummm. USA USA USA
Pesky LaRue Minmatar L.O.S.T. Defence Force	Posted - 2008.09.11 00:09:00 - [3] because it's relative to the local market economy, not relative to each other. this argument has been put forward over and over (most recently and vocally when the GTC prices changed) but it's not about what the US pays vs the UK, it's about what the market in each country will bear. how much is a computer game now in the UK? (haven't lived there in 15 years) 50 quid? in the US it's $50-$60, because essentially, your pound buys you there what a dollar buys you here. it's not up to CCP to regulate international economies or balance what players around the world pay, relative to each other. This message came from the Minmatar Messiah, accept no imitations Pesky LaRue, Minmatar Messiah Bringing Salvation To Your System Soon! ++ PRAY FOR PESKY ++
Abrazzar	Posted - 2008.09.11 00:09:00 - [4] We don't pay more. Our rate is at 100%. The US merely gets a poverty discount. -------- Ideas for: Mining
Pesky LaRue Minmatar L.O.S.T. Defence Force	Posted - 2008.09.11 00:10:00 - [5] Originally by: ThaDollaGenerale Because uhh. ummm. USA USA USA i think you mean: USA NUMBER ONE! WOOOOOOOOOOAAARRGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH This message came from the Minmatar Messiah, accept no imitations Pesky LaRue, Minmatar Messiah Bringing Salvation To Your System Soon! ++ PRAY FOR PESKY ++
KargoKing	Posted - 2008.09.11 00:17:00 - [6] buy eve game time cards in us $, pay pal will convert ú to $ meaing u pay alot less $34.99 for 60 Days costs me ú20GBP
LiNuXb0y Amarr LaMar Associates	Posted - 2008.09.11 00:19:00 - [7] OK I appreciate that there are differences in the economy's of country's, and sure I'd accept maybe 10% more but 40% is too much.
Hieronimus Rex Minmatar Infinitus Sapientia	Posted - 2008.09.11 00:21:00 - [8] Because everything in Europe is overpriced
Banana Torres Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.09.11 00:25:00 - [9] Originally by: Abrazzar We don't pay more. Our rate is at 100%. The US merely gets a poverty discount. This. +1. Quoted for Truth. etc. etc. I just watched a report on BBC about the American economy. omg. Even the Mexicans are going home.
Anaalys Fluuterby Caldari	Posted - 2008.09.11 00:32:00 - [10] Originally by: Banana Torres Originally by: Abrazzar We don't pay more. Our rate is at 100%. The US merely gets a poverty discount. This. +1. Quoted for Truth. etc. etc. I just watched a report on BBC about the American economy. omg. Even the Mexicans are going home. Heh. Don't believe everything the news tells you. And BBC is hardly an unbiased source ------------------------------------------------- Originally by: CCP Wrangler Not it isn't, people should be encouraged to get out in low sec space, but never forced to do so.

Pesky LaRue Minmatar L.O.S.T. Defence Force	Posted - 2008.09.11 00:34:00 - [11] Quote: OK I appreciate that there are differences in the economy's of country's, and sure I'd accept maybe 10% more but 40% is too much. i don't mean this to sound harsh, but it's not about what YOU'LL accept, it's about what the local MARKET will accept. again, what does a game cost nowadays in England? This message came from the Minmatar Messiah, accept no imitations Pesky LaRue, Minmatar Messiah Bringing Salvation To Your System Soon! ++ PRAY FOR PESKY ++
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2008.09.11 01:18:00 - [12] Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 11/09/2008 01:18:49 Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 11/09/2008 01:18:22 Originally by: LiNuXb0y So me and a few corp mates were talking about the new power of 2 offer, they mentioned that it was 49.95 US dollers for 6 months which seemed like an awesome deal to get an alt. I decided to check my emails to check it out in more detail, upon inspection of my email I noticed that the price was 49.95 Euros not dollers. I ran a currency conversion (both into English pounds as I'm English) and it turns out that us European players are paying 11.30 more English pounds (19.88 US Dollers) then US players. This is not fare and should be addressed, why should we pay almost $70 when you pay $49? Actually, the gap in difference between what the yankees pay and we europeans pays have in the last weeks been closed in. So the difference aint that large anymore. The fact is: CCP dont set the dollar rate... OR the Euro rate! And: US yankees pay US dollah While: Eurpeans pay European dollah, better known as EURO CCP can affect a lot of things ingame, but honestly, they cant influence the cash exchange rates.. Oh, did I mentioned this have been mentioned like fiftly trillion times before on this forum?? Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL
Jinx Barker GFB Scientific	Posted - 2008.09.11 01:24:00 - [13] I lived in UK till just a little while back, actually lived there for over 6 years, before I came back home to USA, and when I wanted to buy a bottle of Poweraid I would pay 99p for it, when I want to buy the same exact bottle of Poweaid here in the USA, I pay 99 Cents. Guess what, living in UK, and EU in general is allot more expensive than living in the USA. (There are many reasons for it, which we wont get into, but as an educated person, you should already know most of them). Where a British national would be making 35k GBP a year, it would translate roughly into $70k US, which is quite good these days, for USA one would think, but not quite the same in UK I would imagine, since, as mentioned above, the cost of living in the UK, and EU is much higher than it is in NJ for example, one of the most "expensive" US states. In other words it is unfair how global economy works, I understand, but the fact is, it will continue working this way, whether we "accept" it or not.
Vabjekf	Posted - 2008.09.11 01:46:00 - [14] europe has some crazy taxes, yo
Soporo Caldari	Posted - 2008.09.11 01:52:00 - [15] Quote: Why do European players have to pay more? Because your supercollider will create micro singularities which will eat our faces off silly.
LiNuXb0y Amarr LaMar Associates	Posted - 2008.09.11 02:02:00 - [16] hhhmmm maybe I should emigrate lol
Scoutette	Posted - 2008.09.11 02:49:00 - [17] Originally by: LiNuXb0y why should we pay almost $70 when you pay $49? Because CCP doesn't want to restructure their pricing every time the exchange rates change.
Kobushi OCForums	Posted - 2008.09.11 07:46:00 - [18] Edited by: Kobushi on 11/09/2008 07:51:44 Actually a typical minimal wage american pays a higher % of his monthly wage then a european minimal wage worker(assuming a normal full week schedule of 40 hours in US and 37.5 in eurozone) USA Minimal wage: 1050$ months. 49.95$= 4.76% his monthly wage GB Minimal wage: 956.80 pounds(about 1200euro) 49.95 euro= 4.16% France Minimal wage: 1.321 euro. 49.95 euro= 3.78% Netherlands Minimal wage: 1.317 euro. 49.95 euro= 3.79% So a typical burger flipping teenager in the eurozone is having it cheaper in the eurozone when accounting for the average full time week minimal wage. It gets even worst when comparing how many hours is needed to raise the said 49.95 in local currency US: 49.95/6.55 = 7.62 hours worked. GB: 49.95/8.00 = 6.24 hours worked. France: 49.95/8.80 = 5.67 hours worked. When you compare apples with apples and not oranges or rocks or the next door poodle then you see those apples are actually pretty good. P.S.: minimal wage and "full time" hours were taken from official national government websites and are as up to date as possible for someone not living in the eurozone or the US.
Ackuula	Posted - 2008.09.11 07:47:00 - [19] You've never heard of the currency F--- have you. They like to just take the American price in dollars and change it to Euro or Pounds. Instant profit! Movies, electronics, and software are sold at rippoff prices over here. Get a buddy to buy you time cards in the States.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.09.11 07:52:00 - [20] Originally by: LiNuXb0y hhhmmm maybe I should emigrate lol no no the other way around you want to get the hell out of the US becuase of things like this. eve battleships 125$/80 in UK same with board game coming out. we only make 10$/hour, you make 15$ an hour, they **** us over, and thankfully CCP don't increase the price because we can't afford it. If they incease the price of our sub (they would never lower it for you they would just increase it for us) about 30-40% of the playerbase would leave and CCP would be in the hole.

Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.09.11 07:54:00 - [21] Pish posh, i pay DD for my gametimes, getting a whopping 18Ç/month price for my EVEy time. This comes up to...oh-my-gods...36Ç more a year then CC people! The point?...it's only 36Ç/year Smoke one less ciggie/day and i get my EVE time price compensated and supposedly better health. My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
RaTTuS BIG Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2008.09.11 07:55:00 - [22] Europeans pay more so we can have this type of post ever week or so [or when GTC's run out for power of 2 players. in 2004 it was the other way round and the US where whining -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve
Victor Valka Caldari Kissaki Corporation	Posted - 2008.09.11 07:56:00 - [23] I refuse to point out that this topic has been done to death and back again. Let the dead horse lay. Originally by: Spaztick You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.
Victor Valka Caldari Kissaki Corporation	Posted - 2008.09.11 08:03:00 - [24] Edited by: Victor Valka on 11/09/2008 08:03:16 Originally by: Kobushi Edited by: Kobushi on 11/09/2008 07:51:44 Actually a typical minimal wage american pays a higher % of his monthly wage then a european minimal wage worker(assuming a normal full week schedule of 40 hours in US and 37.5 in eurozone) USA Minimal wage: 1050$ months. 49.95$= 4.76% his monthly wage GB Minimal wage: 956.80 pounds(about 1200euro) 49.95 euro= 4.16% France Minimal wage: 1.321 euro. 49.95 euro= 3.78% Netherlands Minimal wage: 1.317 euro. 49.95 euro= 3.79% So a typical burger flipping teenager in the eurozone is having it cheaper in the eurozone when accounting for the average full time week minimal wage. It gets even worst when comparing how many hours is needed to raise the said 49.95 in local currency US: 49.95/6.55 = 7.62 hours worked. GB: 49.95/8.00 = 6.24 hours worked. France: 49.95/8.80 = 5.67 hours worked. When you compare apples with apples and not oranges or rocks or the next door poodle then you see those apples are actually pretty good. P.S.: minimal wage and "full time" hours were taken from official national government websites and are as up to date as possible for someone not living in the eurozone or the US. Latvia/LV: Minimal wage: 160 LVL/month (~228 EUR). BEFORE tax. Just FYI. Yes, I live there. Yes, I earn more then that. No, my wage is still below any of those listed even tho I have higher education and plenty of work experience. Originally by: Spaztick You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.
Xevan Templar 7th Batavian Squadron	Posted - 2008.09.11 08:26:00 - [25] Originally by: Jinx Barker If I was a Brit, I would save every penny, and buy a freaking house in USA, for allot less than a corner lot, semi-detached home in UK. Bloody 175k GBP, for a 2 bedroom home in a bad neighborhood, where for $350k US I could buy a 5 bedroom house with an acre of land to it. It crossed my mind to, however you then live in a CONCORD state run by Bush. I feel for the people in the USA.
Hungo Minmatar Rheinland Navy Zeta Tau Epsilon	Posted - 2008.09.11 08:30:00 - [26] Or u did what i do My friend jason in Albany pays my eve account, and i paypal him the money, ui get two accounst for the price of one and im breaking no rules :)
Hungo Minmatar Rheinland Navy Zeta Tau Epsilon	Posted - 2008.09.11 08:33:00 - [27] Originally by: Xevan Templar Originally by: Jinx Barker If I was a Brit, I would save every penny, and buy a freaking house in USA, for allot less than a corner lot, semi-detached home in UK. Bloody 175k GBP, for a 2 bedroom home in a bad neighborhood, where for $350k US I could buy a 5 bedroom house with an acre of land to it. It crossed my mind to, however you then live in a CONCORD state run by Bush. I feel for the people in the USA. With President Bush, the CIA killing anyone who says AMerica is bad, gang land culture, over run by immagrants, unsafe to walk the streets at night? a gun shop on every corner, police shooting anyone they please, a culture so caught up in itself that there is no way out? No thanks, ill stay british n stay in england,. at least when i got the shop @ 10pm in my village i know there isnt a risk sum gang banger homie is gonan try n rob me because god forbid he should get a real job America = Shit hole, cess pit, pathetic
Xevan Templar 7th Batavian Squadron	Posted - 2008.09.11 08:45:00 - [28] Originally by: Hungo America = Shit hole, cess pit, pathetic I understand your point, however allow me to bring it a little more subtle. The average American is just like you and I. It's the ***ed up politicians and Bush government that turns the USA, or already has, into a police state. They have used fear, and still use fear (fear created by the government itself) as a method to get all those patriot acts running. I'm pretty much convinced every town or village is just as safe when it comes to the average citizen, as in my country. The Bush government however wants the people to think it's a jungle and they need 'protection', hence Bush is actually saying: 'Marshal law is good'. Heaven help the people of the USA. I just realise though I can't discuss politics on the EVE forums blowing up people ingame = good, politics = bad *
Sergeant Spot Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.11 09:25:00 - [29] Originally by: LiNuXb0y So me and a few corp mates were talking about the new power of 2 offer, they mentioned that it was 49.95 US dollers for 6 months which seemed like an awesome deal to get an alt. I decided to check my emails to check it out in more detail, upon inspection of my email I noticed that the price was 49.95 Euros not dollers. I ran a currency conversion (both into English pounds as I'm English) and it turns out that us European players are paying 11.30 more English pounds (19.88 US Dollers) then US players. This is not fare and should be addressed, why should we pay almost $70 when you pay $49? There is a simple reason that explains everything: CCP Hates you. Play nice while you butcher each other.
cpt Mark	Posted - 2008.09.11 09:46:00 - [30] Originally by: Pesky LaRue because it's relative to the local market economy, not relative to each other. this argument has been put forward over and over (most recently and vocally when the GTC prices changed) but it's not about what the US pays vs the UK, it's about what the market in each country will bear. how much is a computer game now in the UK? (haven't lived there in 15 years) 50 quid? in the US it's $50-$60, because essentially, your pound buys you there what a dollar buys you here. it's not up to CCP to regulate international economies or balance what players around the world pay, relative to each other. No, it would be more like 20-30 quid depending on the quality of the game. Other MMORPG's in the UK cost around 8-9 GBP per month, making EVE online the most expensive i have seen. and taking into account mimimum wage is crap. The reason things are cheaper in America is because you rip off your own working class, and the people in less economically developed countries. So don't bullshit to us about how you actually pay more.

Tippia Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.09.11 10:04:00 - [31] What's a "doller"? Some kind of slightly less refined puppet master?
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2008.09.11 10:10:00 - [32] Because we Europeans: Have more disposable funds than the Americans (read: richer) We have a higher average salary (read: better paid) Our rights as consumers/customers are protected by law (read: Ombudsmen for the win!) ... ... etc. etc. ad nauseum. That and then there is the whole VAT and currency exchange thing but they are boring to discuss.
Black Tahee1	Posted - 2008.09.11 10:12:00 - [33] Because we make more money! Because we are worth more! Because we care less about money! Because .....
Shintai Gallente Balad Naran Orbital Shipyards	Posted - 2008.09.11 10:15:00 - [34] Because our economy doesnt suck. -------------------------------------- Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.09.11 10:34:00 - [35] If I lived in America I'd want a discount on life too. - DesuSigs
Loc Maythan Gallente AlfaCorp	Posted - 2008.09.11 11:58:00 - [36] Edited by: Loc Maythan on 11/09/2008 11:58:13 Originally by: Soporo Quote: Why do European players have to pay more? Because your supercollider will create micro singularities which will eat our faces off silly. Not true - they will be French/Swiss micro singularities, and hence will spend all day drinking expensive coffee in street cafes, and checking out what all the other micro singularities are wearing ;-) If the LHC had been here in the UK, however, our faces would, indeed, be in trouble ;-) Loc.
Hard Water	Posted - 2008.09.11 12:08:00 - [37] Uh oh, Eurotrash in this thread. Keep praying, one day you will get visa.
Veldya Caldari Guristari Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2008.09.11 12:13:00 - [38] This may be a new concept to some game developers but we have a unique thing called "exchange rates" this determines the value difference between currencies of different nations. I think EA is still slow on the uptake that exchange rates exist.
olzi Caldari Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2008.09.11 12:18:00 - [39] US with their third world country like market and funny money can't handle the same standards Europe is used to.
Hard Water	Posted - 2008.09.11 12:26:00 - [40] Edited by: Hard Water on 11/09/2008 12:26:52 Wait, what year was all of Europe relevant in any way. I guess we need the Brits because we use a lot of them in movies and television.

X3R0N Caldari Boys With Toys	Posted - 2008.09.11 12:30:00 - [41] I love these threads :) it gives me the opportunity to "brag" about living in Denmark and paying a whole ****ing lot more than any of you can ever imagine :P I'm 19, I make about 2000 quid a month give or take, and I pay 37% tax of that, on top I pay another 8% for some other stuff :) and to make it all better we pay 25% VAT :P So ya'll can just sod off! No seriously, stop complaining about how much it costs in Europe and how much it costs in the states, coz i don't think it will ever change, but hey if it does let me know. oh and btw those 2000 quid equals up to about 3500 dollars. Feel free to correct and flame :)
Rhivre Caldari Carlsberg Intelligence Agency	Posted - 2008.09.11 13:10:00 - [42] well, while that is true of denmark, i still have more disposable income doing the same job here as i did in the uk. i was taking home 900 quid a month in the uk, now, i make as much after tax as i did before tax in the uk, similar sized company and all in addition, smokes are around half the cost here as they are in the uk, making me a very happy bunny indeed
X3R0N Caldari Boys With Toys	Posted - 2008.09.11 13:22:00 - [43] Originally by: Rhivre well, while that is true of denmark, i still have more disposable income doing the same job here as i did in the uk. i was taking home 900 quid a month in the uk, now, i make as much after tax as i did before tax in the uk, similar sized company and all in addition, smokes are around half the cost here as they are in the uk, making me a very happy bunny indeed hehe well there might be something to that :) and of course the price of beer here in Denmark ain't that bad either, as long as you buy them in crates :) if you go to a bar though you'll end up paying the horrendous price of 3-6 quid pr pint
Falkrich Swifthand Caldari eNinjas Incorporated	Posted - 2008.09.11 14:01:00 - [44] Wow, apparently WoW is now only ú8/month. Didn't it used to be more? EVE is ú12/month doing the right thing and paying euros, ú10/month paying 3-monthly. Being more expensive than WoW is not a good thing for CCP. nullnull My sig is not my sig.
Bak Vlok Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2008.09.11 14:17:00 - [45] I feel good about payign a bit extra so americans can play a bit of EVE. I actually see it as a charity. We are already financing their trade deficits and paying development aid for schools and hospitals. They gotta have some MMO fun too.
EliteSlave Minmatar M. Corp Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2008.09.11 14:23:00 - [46] well if CCP charged the americans anymore, like say 20$ a month i doubt their would be any americans on here really. thus they would lose a fair amount of players..
FlameGlow Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.11 14:44:00 - [47] Originally by: EliteSlave well if CCP charged the americans anymore, like say 20$ a month i doubt their would be any americans on here really. thus they would lose a fair amount of players.. Eh, who needs them overweight uneducated burger-flipping american teenagers in EVE? _____________ I don't care what is nerfed, as long as it's not my "undock" button.
Rehtom Lamina Minmatar The Movement	Posted - 2008.09.11 15:03:00 - [48] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Pish posh, i pay DD for my gametimes, getting a whopping 18Ç/month price for my EVEy time. This comes up to...oh-my-gods...36Ç more a year then CC people! The point?...it's only 36Ç/year Smoke one less ciggie/day and i get my EVE time price compensated and supposedly better health. This
Edeard Black	Posted - 2008.09.11 15:12:00 - [49] However you look at it we're being ripped-off. If you say it's because we're used to being ripped off and Americans aren't, we're still being ripped off. I suspect it does relate to what they think they can get away with.
dassit Dirty Denizens	Posted - 2008.09.11 15:40:00 - [50] These threads make me laugh. Far to many Europeans that have watched far to many American movies. America is experiencing a difficult time(for some, I personaly am doing well). There will be reforms, as obviously a large government does not work in our culture. Politicians are far to irresponsible. Our main problem both financialy and culturaly is immigration at this time. A problem that many parts of Europe suffer from the consequences as well...so dont kid yourselves. America, when compared to Europe is competing with a market twice her size, with the combined finanicial influence of the entire European block. Are you surprised the recently formed EU is doing well compared to America? I for one am not. I will say though, pound for pound America has many strengths, and in every category of the modern age besides maybe healthcare America outsrips any three European countries by leaps and bounds. As a European American I find it sad that Europeans are so harsh on America. Sure we have our faults, but I dont believe that America should be the focal point of so much European hatred. You guys have other problems on the horizon you may want to pay more attention to. TL:DR, So what, you pay more for now. It could all change in the blink of an eye. I for one have seen it swing both ways in my time, so I wouldnt sweat it.

Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2008.09.11 17:46:00 - [51] As an American citizen it makes me sad to see so much haet directed at my country Come to the northeast and the west coast, it's pretty nice around there, both weather-and-culture-wise. __________________________________ Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
dassit Dirty Denizens	Posted - 2008.09.11 17:55:00 - [52] Originally by: Terianna Eri As an American citizen it makes me sad to see so much haet directed at my country Come to the northeast and the west coast, it's pretty nice around there, both weather-and-culture-wise. Please dont fib about the weather in the Northeast. We dont need them thinking we are outright liars too. I would recomend the exact opposite to them as well. Quite frankly the Upper East/ Lower-Mid West Coasts of The Americas are the most crime ridden degenerated places in the Country. There is little to no coherent culture there IMO, and it has created a babbled mixed bag, with no redeeming qualities that measure up. Incidently the Northeast and West Coast are where most foriegn visitors go....and I, depending on where they go would agree with them that it isnt a pretty sight.
Vabjekf	Posted - 2008.09.11 18:01:00 - [53] Working a minimum wage job in california i could afford to eat 115 tacos a day from a local fast food place. how many tacos a day could you afford to eat working for the lowest wages in europe?
Xevan Templar 7th Batavian Squadron	Posted - 2008.09.11 18:04:00 - [54] Originally by: Terianna Eri As an American citizen it makes me sad to see so much haet directed at my country Come to the northeast and the west coast, it's pretty nice around there, both weather-and-culture-wise. Ok lets do it the American way. We will bring our tanks and troops, and put a fence around your oil fields, deal?
soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Trinity Council	Posted - 2008.09.11 18:15:00 - [55] Originally by: Terianna Eri As an American citizen it makes me sad to see so much haet directed at my country Come to the northeast and the west coast, it's pretty nice around there, both weather-and-culture-wise. it doesnt sadden me that they direct all this hate at america, everyone hates the world superpower anyway, and always will, remeber, not EVERYONE in europe hates america, there are a few on the forums that spew tons of hate at us, but hey, let them vent if they think insulting the world superpower is going to do anything, they are just mad that they are not the world superpower anymore, they had their time, now its our time, they just cant rid themselves of their holier than thou attitude (those who are spewing blatant insults at america, such as "obese, overweight uneducated burger flipping american teenagers" or 'we are paying their trade defecits, and giving them money for school and hospital development" let them think they are completely superior if it helps their self esteem i guess Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 "*Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer*"
Xevan Templar 7th Batavian Squadron	Posted - 2008.09.11 18:18:00 - [56] Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 it doesnt sadden me that they direct all this hate at america, everyone hates the world superpower anyway, and always will, remeber, not EVERYONE in europe hates america, there are a few on the forums that spew tons of hate at us, but hey, let them vent if they think insulting the world superpower is going to do anything, they are just mad that they are not the world superpower anymore, they had their time, now its our time, they just cant rid themselves of their holier than thou attitude (those who are spewing blatant insults at america, such as "obese, overweight uneducated burger flipping american teenagers" or 'we are paying their trade defecits, and giving them money for school and hospital development" let them think they are completely superior if it helps their self esteem i guess I think your reaction says it all. And yes, invading Iraq will get you most populair.
SoftRevolution	Posted - 2008.09.11 18:22:00 - [57] Silly Europeans. Most of your countries are pants too <3 ps. GTCs from US retailers STILL work out cheaper than paying by CC.
soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Trinity Council	Posted - 2008.09.11 18:32:00 - [58] Originally by: Xevan Templar Originally by: Terianna Eri As an American citizen it makes me sad to see so much haet directed at my country Come to the northeast and the west coast, it's pretty nice around there, both weather-and-culture-wise. Ok lets do it the American way. We will bring our tanks and troops, and put a fence around your oil fields, deal? lol good luck getting that far, america has about as many civilian gun owners as britain's total population (44million american gun owners that are REGISTERD, and a total british population of around 60million) and alot of people that are gun owners are / were in the military / police department, so alot of them know how to use guns as well i think thats a good quality america has, that we can OWN GUNS this is a sad story, but of course, the old man should have just LET the burglar smash his skull in with a crowbar, i mean, defending his own life? absurd Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 "*Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer*"
Vabjekf	Posted - 2008.09.11 18:51:00 - [59] Ive got a gun the government doesn't know about. Good luck invading, im so bad at shooting it you can't tell whos going to get hit based just on who im pointing at! NO INVADER IS SAFE!
Hyveres Caldari	Posted - 2008.09.11 18:55:00 - [60] It should be mentioned that norwegians pay in dollars even if we are european :) "I dont need facts when I have the truth"

soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Trinity Council	Posted - 2008.09.11 18:56:00 - [61] hence why i put registered, lol my parents own a total of 4 guns, and only one is registered, the other one is a gun that was used by a CIA officer, its a throwaway gun, about i think 10k guns with the SAME serial number were manufactured for the CIA, the other one is my mom's gun she got when she was 16, the other one is a rifle Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 "*Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer*"
Daelin Blackleaf	Posted - 2008.09.11 18:56:00 - [62] Because we're Europeans and CCP doesn't like us enough to charge us the US price + VAT. ------------------------------- Hi-Sec: A place for the average player to make a safe income, not the place for the average player to make the best income.
Gogar Teltaf Factotum Rodent	Posted - 2008.09.11 19:02:00 - [63] Originally by: Pesky LaRue how much is a computer game now in the UK? (haven't lived there in 15 years) 50 quid? if nobody else has answered, you can buy new PC games in the shops for ú25-ú35.
Layla McScout	Posted - 2008.09.11 19:29:00 - [64] Just pay with Isk. If you don't have enough for that just tell Cheng and his RMT farmer buddies to work a bit harder for the 0.0 space you rent out to them. Problem solved.
Isis Bane	Posted - 2008.09.11 19:30:00 - [65] Silly euro's, go back to killing Jews and Muslims again and leave the whine to Africans.
Layla McScout	Posted - 2008.09.11 19:36:00 - [66] The US are really doing an effort in catching up with Muslim killing though ;)
Vabjekf	Posted - 2008.09.11 19:49:00 - [67] Well you cant give us ALL the credit, i mean, some of them blow THEMSELVES up! lolol!
Jaabaa Prime Minmatar Quam Singulari	Posted - 2008.09.11 19:52:00 - [68] Edited by: Jaabaa Prime on 11/09/2008 19:53:31 Originally by: Anaalys Fluuterby Originally by: Banana Torres I just watched a report on BBC about the American economy. omg. Even the Mexicans are going home. Heh. Don't believe everything the news tells you. And BBC is hardly an unbiased source Ever watched CNN In comparison to them, the BBC are reporters of the purist of intents --
Vabjekf	Posted - 2008.09.11 19:55:00 - [69] all news is a lie, listen to me and trust what i say only!
Armoured C Gallente The Aztecs Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.09.11 20:09:00 - [70] well this suck the minium wage in the uk is like 5.52 and that what i am on =( i better buy my eve online battleships models before i move to Seattle then remember carebears arnt people they are flying pinyata's

YapYup Gallente Pangalactic Acquisitions	Posted - 2008.09.12 16:51:00 - [71] with conversion taken on this day at this time. US players get a saving of 28.03 euros or 39.75 USD EU players get a saving of 13.29 euros or 18.85 USD Its CCP's game they do what they want


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