| Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 30 40 50 .. 51 :: one page |
|
|
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 2 post(s) |
Bacchanalian
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
58
   |
Posted - 2012.03.29 03:55:00 -
[781] - Quote
Destrim wrote:... methinks people are going a bit out of bounds here.
CCP did not remove him from the CSM, he resigned of his own volition. Thus, the people raging about "CCP just invalidated 10058 votes" are themselves an invalid argument, since it was not CCP who performed that action, but the Mittani himself.
The ONLY thing CCP is responsible for is the 30-day ban, which amounts to a slap on the wrist.
Incorrect, he resigned as CSM chair, which is not the same thing--it's a right of anyone elected to that office to step down from that office and remain as CSM member. |
Destrim
Koshaku
Gentlemen's Agreement
3
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 03:57:00 -
[782] - Quote
Bacchanalian wrote:Destrim wrote:... methinks people are going a bit out of bounds here.
CCP did not remove him from the CSM, he resigned of his own volition. Thus, the people raging about "CCP just invalidated 10058 votes" are themselves an invalid argument, since it was not CCP who performed that action, but the Mittani himself.
The ONLY thing CCP is responsible for is the 30-day ban, which amounts to a slap on the wrist. Incorrect, he resigned as CSM chair, which is not the same thing--it's a right of anyone elected to that office to step down from that office and remain as CSM member.
"He has also resigned from his position as Chairman of CSM 6 and has forfeited his right to serve on CSM 7" -from the devblog post.
Both actions were voluntary. |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
3822
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 04:00:00 -
[783] - Quote
Lamperouge Kasenumi wrote:minime92 wrote:On an additional note the fact that a large portion of the player base no longer feel they are represented in the CSm is a little unfair, prehaps the many players who voted for Mittani should be allowed to revote, they could push another CSM member into the chair (Please God not Riviani). Nah, it's all about risk and reward. The risk was The Mittani screwing up and getting kicked out, the reward was The Mittani keeping his position and influencing future CCP's decision to benefit the Goons. They lost their bets, now they have to live with it.
Oh please you're going to be bleating in a month again when the Jita undock is filled with freighter wrecks anyway
"WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Hecatonis
Ascension Manufacturing
68
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 04:01:00 -
[784] - Quote
even i sat through his address to the goons,
he left the CSM by his own choice, you people need to lay off the koolaid |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
3822
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 04:01:00 -
[785] - Quote
Hecatonis wrote:even i sat through his address to the goons,
he left the CSM by his own choice, you people need to lay off the koolaid
He hasn't confirmed that, FYI
"WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Nirnaeth Ornoediad
Clan Shadow Wolf
Fatal Ascension
91
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 04:01:00 -
[786] - Quote
DelightSucker wrote:Wolfgang Helm wrote:
Ban yes, remove from chair yes - removal from CSM was too far.
you are aware that the Ban is what makes him getting kicked form csm right?
It didn't get Krutoj kicked from the CSM.
"The Mittani isn't even gone for a day and CCP's management is already making bad decisions."
THE MITTANI for CEO of CCP
1-800-273-8255 |
Savion Chastis
Golden Sail Enterprises
7
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 04:04:00 -
[787] - Quote
Well, since we cleared that up I guess this can now be a burn jita thread.
I also need to go pay my parking tickets. Wouldn't want for the parking po-po to write someone and get me banned. |
Ager Agemo
X-Factor Industries
Synthetic Existence
47
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 04:06:00 -
[788] - Quote
As mittens itself said:
DEAL WITH IT!
he resigned himself, he was not forced to resign. |
Tetragammatron Prime
Pink Sockers
36
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 04:10:00 -
[789] - Quote
a bloo blooo blooo bloooo |
Tetragammatron Prime
Pink Sockers
36
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 04:11:00 -
[790] - Quote
Ager Agemo wrote:As mittens itself said:
DEAL WITH IT!
he resigned himself, he was not forced to resign.
He also banned himself from game! |
|
|
Valk Enaka
The Lone Patrol
Tactical Narcotics Team
3
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 04:11:00 -
[791] - Quote
Minister of Death wrote:Valk Enaka wrote:Thank you CCP for throwing out my interest in the game. When you take over 10,000 of the votes for CSM and throw them out, what are you thinking? As many others said, none of this was ingame which means the EULA wouldn't apply. The Mittani publicly apologized, and in my opinion at least, went far beyond what he needed to do.
You had several thousand players interested in taking part in this process, and have told them that their opinions do not matter to you. Way to go CCP. As others have said, if you are going to ignore these votes, why even bother with the election? It is truly odd that you blame CCP for this, and not mittenz. Who did the wrong thing here? CCP or mittenz? Think about it and drop the hysterics.
I have said already that I did not think what mittens did was right, but he did try to make it right on his part.
I do blame CCP for completely blowing off the more than 10k votes. They make a joke out of the whole CSM voting process when they do something like that.
And now Jita will burn!  |
Minister of Death
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
37
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 04:15:00 -
[792] - Quote
Valk Enaka wrote:
I do blame CCP for completely blowing off the more than 10k votes.
Would it be possible to consider a paraphrase of the above as:
"I am disappointed in myself for voting for a jackass who wasted my valuable vote."?
|
Lamperouge Kasenumi
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
11
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 04:26:00 -
[793] - Quote
Andski wrote:Lamperouge Kasenumi wrote:minime92 wrote:On an additional note the fact that a large portion of the player base no longer feel they are represented in the CSm is a little unfair, prehaps the many players who voted for Mittani should be allowed to revote, they could push another CSM member into the chair (Please God not Riviani). Nah, it's all about risk and reward. The risk was The Mittani screwing up and getting kicked out, the reward was The Mittani keeping his position and influencing future CCP's decision to benefit the Goons. They lost their bets, now they have to live with it. Oh please you're going to be bleating in a month again when the Jita undock is filled with freighter wrecks anyway
Will I? Or will I be enjoying the show just like I am right now? |
Gevlin
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
121
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 04:45:00 -
[794] - Quote
I am sad to see this resolution but we need to move on.
I do hope that the Mittani returns in 30 days
I hope the goons remain being goons and don't disolve or leave.
I hope the CSM represents the "Whole" eve community including the goons and listen to the community and not the angry mob mentality.
I also hope that appropriate procedures are in place to prevent accidental action in the future at any player created content.
I agree with several people: CCP needs to focus most of eve's recources on FIS, but the development of WIS still needs to continue, just as a slower and more efficient pace.
In eve I wish to be more than just a machine. |
Zhade Lezte
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
30
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 04:49:00 -
[795] - Quote
To make it clear to those who don't have a hateon for mitanni and a fondness for distorting the truth towards your own agenda while maintaining a facade of self-righteousness, CCP pretty much unequivocally removed Mitanni from the CSM as opposed to Mitanni resigning.
Our latest CEO update on the forums mentions how he has chosen to resign from the charimanship but continue to work within the CSM as a regular member. Then this devblog was posted.
Don't fool yourself into thinking that he willingly resigned from the CSM, if that was the case it would be written that he resigned from the chairmanship and the CSM, instead of having resigned from the chairmanship and "forfeited" his position on the CSM.
Naturally of course, CCP's PR department has made sure to make it not clear what the truth of the matter really is: the disenfranchisement of 10,058 voters.
I'm disappointed at this but not particularly surprised they would take such an action with the media shitstorm and likely pressure from Sony due to their presence at fanfest due to Dust, they are a company after all and they'll do unjust things if it seems important enough for their business interests. I'm glad to hear that the other representatives are likely going to remain in contact with The Mitanni in spite of CCP's cowardice and I hope they will bring forth the interests of The Mitanni's constituents in their interactions with CCP.
Hopefully CCP's apparent fear of Sony and the gaming media will not result in a reduction to the harsh universe that made me stay around in Eve and brought so many of us here. We shall see soon enough! |
Faikkun
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 04:50:00 -
[796] - Quote
This decision makes me want to kill myself. |
Daktar Jaxs
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
5
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 04:54:00 -
[797] - Quote
CCP and the Hypocritical Bullshit: Episode 435
Anyway, if you think this is going to effect our behaviour in game you are one dumb bear. |
Chokichi Ozuwara
Lucky Dragon Convenience
45
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 05:07:00 -
[798] - Quote
Daktar Jaxs wrote:Anyway, if you think this is going to effect our behaviour in game you are one dumb bear.
No one cares bro.
Start a corp and do it yourself. You'll fail, but you'll enjoy failing. Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |
Hecatonis
Ascension Manufacturing
68
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 05:12:00 -
[799] - Quote
Andski wrote:Hecatonis wrote:even i sat through his address to the goons,
he left the CSM by his own choice, you people need to lay off the koolaid He hasn't confirmed that, FYI
um, yes he did, listen again my dear goon. |
Flamespar
Woof Club
346
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 05:17:00 -
[800] - Quote
u mad bro?
I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
|
|
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
3834
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 05:17:00 -
[801] - Quote
Hecatonis wrote:Andski wrote:Hecatonis wrote:even i sat through his address to the goons,
he left the CSM by his own choice, you people need to lay off the koolaid He hasn't confirmed that, FYI um, yes he did, listen again my dear goon.
he didn't resign from the CSM.
"WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
IllusiveWolf63
Rayn Enterprises
Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 05:18:00 -
[802] - Quote
Alekseyev Karrde wrote:This entire situation is regrettable and there was no perfect outcome. I am concerned about the disenfranchisement of voters but trust CSM6 and CCP to sort things as best as possible under the circumstances.
You can trust CCP to work it out the best possible way for them. The CSM is supposed to represent the player base.
Test Alliance Please Live Stream Drunk Eve Players |
buck herrick
101st Space Marine Force
Nulli Secunda
11
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 05:18:00 -
[803] - Quote
Faikkun wrote:This decision makes me want to kill myself.
no, please, dont. seek assistance, stroke the furry wall, something, anything.
oh wait, TEST.....hmmmm |
Helena Russell Makanen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
40
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 05:22:00 -
[804] - Quote
Andski wrote:Hecatonis wrote:even i sat through his address to the goons,
he left the CSM by his own choice, you people need to lay off the koolaid He hasn't confirmed that, FYI
Who care what he 'confirms'. CCP owns this game not mitty. They said he is out - he is out... regardless of his hubris. He did it himself. Oh and goons seem to cry and moan more than the carebears they mock btw. That's not lost on anyone. I won't (yet) use the 'delicious' term you love so much.
|
Damion Rayne
Dark-Rising
67
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 05:25:00 -
[805] - Quote
Zhade Lezte wrote:To make it clear to those who don't have a hateon for mitanni and a fondness for distorting the truth towards your own agenda while maintaining a facade of self-righteousness, CCP pretty much unequivocally removed Mitanni from the CSM as opposed to Mitanni resigning.
Our latest CEO update on the forums mentions how he has chosen to resign from the charimanship but continue to work within the CSM as a regular member. Then this devblog was posted.
Don't fool yourself into thinking that he willingly resigned from the CSM, if that was the case it would be written that he resigned from the chairmanship and the CSM, instead of having resigned from the chairmanship and "forfeited" his position on the CSM.
Naturally of course, CCP's PR department has made sure to make it not clear what the truth of the matter really is: the disenfranchisement of 10,058 voters.
I'm disappointed at this but not particularly surprised they would take such an action with the media shitstorm and likely pressure from Sony due to their presence at fanfest due to Dust, they are a company after all and they'll do unjust things if it seems important enough for their business interests. I'm glad to hear that the other representatives are likely going to remain in contact with The Mitanni in spite of CCP's cowardice and I hope they will bring forth the interests of The Mitanni's constituents in their interactions with CCP.
Hopefully CCP's apparent fear of Sony and the gaming media will not result in a reduction to the harsh universe that made me stay around in Eve and brought so many of us here. We shall see soon enough!
Do "Un Just" things? Un Just? Your'e glorious leader told people to force a man to kill himself, and you call CCPs' actions un just? News flash..
THE VERY EXISTENCE OF GOONSWARM IS UNJUST
Teamwork..
Maturity..
Tactics..
www.tacticalgamer.com |
Helena Russell Makanen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
40
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 05:26:00 -
[806] - Quote
Andski wrote:
Oh please you're going to be bleating in a month again when the Jita undock is filled with freighter wrecks anyway
Like you have been BLEATING for days? Whine and snivel.
|
Etil DeLaFuente
New Eclipse
Initiative Mercenaries
1
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 05:33:00 -
[807] - Quote
10,058 tears, he's indeed the best vilain in eve  |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
3835
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 05:34:00 -
[808] - Quote
Helena Russell Makanen wrote:Andski wrote:
Oh please you're going to be bleating in a month again when the Jita undock is filled with freighter wrecks anyway
Like you have been BLEATING for days? Whine and snivel.
We're going to have delegates in CSM 8. One will be the Chairman. Same with CSM 9, CSM 10, and so on until this game dies.
Deal with it.
"WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Alphea Abbra
Project Promethion
16
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 05:41:00 -
[809] - Quote
In the words of "your CEO~" and "chairman for life~" or whatever his current title is:
"Deal with it~".
I don't see how the voters got disenfranchised by CCP's actions anyway. The Mittani got himself into this mess, and you're angry at CCP. Why? Because being angry at your elected buddy would destroy too much of your self esteem?
Personally, I'm, frisky as a squid on Tuesdays. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
367
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 05:45:00 -
[810] - Quote
Andski wrote:
We're going to have delegates in CSM 8. One will be the Chairman. Same with CSM 9, CSM 10, and so on until this game dies.
Deal with it.
DIdn't you unsub already, you sobbing little baby
I've never seen as much dickless futile crying over internet space pixels in my time in EVE. But hey, everyone's a special little snowflake when they're butthurt!
|
|
|
|
|
| |
|
| Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 30 40 50 .. 51 :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |