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Phigmeta
EXPCS Corp
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
52
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Posted - 2012.03.29 05:49:00 -
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So after reading very carefully through the entire EULA and TOS something occured to me.
His actions we outside of the game and since the statements we not on the forums.......
.......... the EULA / TOS does not apply.
This literally means that CCP .... your an idoit
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Empathic Psychopath
Cult of the Crayon
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 05:52:00 -
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RDevz wrote:You've disenfranchised 10,058 voters. Good job. Edit: CCP Navigator's edited post wrote: The panelist was a member of the CSM who has subsequently resigned from CSM6 and, as a result, will resign his seat on CSM7. The Mittani wrote:I now exercise my right as the winner of the election with 10,058 votes to decline the office of Chairman. Unless there's something that's not been said in public, I think you might be jumping to conclusions there. There's a difference between being a CSM member and being the CSM chairman.
Ummmm...I didn't hear anyone complain about being disenfranchised when the last CSM member got kicked, how does it make the people who voted for mittens any different? Just because most of them were goons? If that's the case then maybe all goons should quit eve in protest...I dare ya!  |
Kile Kitmoore
8
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Posted - 2012.03.29 05:53:00 -
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What does the victim say about this because if he was that upset (which I don't believe he is) why not allow him to change his game identity? If he is OK with everything and actually enjoying the media spotlight why not have him and Mitt's sing "We are the world", together on YouTube?
Makes me wonder what the turn out will be like in the next election when the Chairman can so easily be tossed out. Oh, I do understand that he stepped down, but what amount of pressure was placed on him to do so?
Quick note on the bad press, imagine if you will some dude who's grinding his 1000th WOW quest on the verge of shooting himself in the head but reads this "bad" press and thinks to himself, "Jesus Christ on a popsicle stick, I can do that crazy **** in a game!". Yes, he quits WOW, comes here and we have just saved a life.
This idea that CSM members need to be model citizens in a game which prides itself on being a dark cold universe full of cutthroats is stupid.
CCP HTFU and enjoy the press Mittens has yet again brought to your door.
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Hecatonis
Ascension Manufacturing
68
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Posted - 2012.03.29 05:53:00 -
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Phigmeta wrote:So after reading very carefully through the entire EULA and TOS something occured to me.
His actions we outside of the game and since the statements we not on the forums.......
.......... the EULA / TOS does not apply.
This literally means that CCP .... your an idoit
thats like saying RMT is outside game because you dont use the eve client to send the money. the told people to use CCP tools to find, player search, and harass, eve mail, another player.
CCP is well within their rights to temp ban him |
Arkady Sadik
Gradient
Electus Matari
582
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:04:00 -
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Good decision. Thank you, CCP. |
Empathic Psychopath
Cult of the Crayon
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:04:00 -
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Koby Botick wrote:1/6 th of all votes disregarded. Is CCP back a russian sounding abbreviation again? I hear they like to manipulate votes in plain sight there too.
Wasn't it goons that were praising CCP not that long ago when a nerf to tians was announced? My how the mighty have fallen :) |
Phigmeta
EXPCS Corp
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
52
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:05:00 -
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Hecatonis wrote:Phigmeta wrote:So after reading very carefully through the entire EULA and TOS something occured to me.
His actions we outside of the game and since the statements we not on the forums.......
.......... the EULA / TOS does not apply.
This literally means that CCP .... your an idoit
thats like saying RMT is outside game because you dont use the eve client to send the money. the told people to use CCP tools to find, player search, and harass, eve mail, another player. CCP is well within their rights to temp ban him
actually RMT does happen inside the game ....
but thanks for playing genius |
Aineko Macx
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
165
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:08:00 -
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Etil DeLaFuente wrote:10,058 tears, he's indeed the best vilain in eve
I approve 
Quick goonies, go "burn jita to the ground". |
Hecatonis
Ascension Manufacturing
68
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:09:00 -
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Phigmeta wrote:Hecatonis wrote:Phigmeta wrote:So after reading very carefully through the entire EULA and TOS something occured to me.
His actions we outside of the game and since the statements we not on the forums.......
.......... the EULA / TOS does not apply.
This literally means that CCP .... your an idoit
thats like saying RMT is outside game because you dont use the eve client to send the money. the told people to use CCP tools to find, player search, and harass, eve mail, another player. CCP is well within their rights to temp ban him actually RMT does happen inside the game .... but thanks for playing genius
ok i will bite, how are they different?
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Shang Fei
The Illuminatii
Mildly Intoxicated
17
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:13:00 -
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Even though I do not like The Mittani, as in the evil leader of the goons.
I do believe that Mittens, the ex-CSM chairman, has done alot for our game and I believe that he being removed, resigning, whatever, is a mistake that might take a hard toll upon EVE Online. I certainly hope not, but I think he was a good member of the CSM and I do not realy disagree with anything that he has accomplished as Chair of the CSM 6. |
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Diamonica Norya
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:17:00 -
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we're still going? I ran out of pop corns and jars to contain the tears collected
I thought the Fanfest is a CCP hosted event about some CCP developed game, some bad guy did something at the event about the game has everything to do with it...
Btw, Mitty sounds mad at the end of his new speech, hurting much?
I prefer the Mitty on Eve Radio interview, full of confidence and sounded like a reasonable man would, but I guess it was a show.
Or was it the new speech that was more of a real Mitty, then I have no regrets about my miscasted votes. |
Valryon
Insight Investments
Independent Operators Consortium
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:26:00 -
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How do you ban someone for something they did outside your game? That's messed up. |
Chokichi Ozuwara
Lucky Dragon Convenience
49
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:33:00 -
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I bet that most of Eve forgets about the Mittani in the next 30 days.
Start a corp and do it yourself. You'll fail, but you'll enjoy failing. Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |
Ordais
DARK ORCHESTRA
19
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:35:00 -
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Goon tears....so many goon tears....*nomnomnom*
As for the 10.000 voters....its not CCPs fault that you candidate shot himself in the foot and can't represent you anymore. Take it up with him.
Well, i do agree with the desicion, but it will hurt the game in many ways wich makes me even MORE angry at Mittens...you just couldn't pull yourself together. All this talk about "beeing a politician" and "understanding how this works"....and then you do something STUPID like this. Well done....not. |
Aineko Macx
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
165
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:35:00 -
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While mittens unintendly self-facializing must have been a Karma thing, the one question raised is interesting:
Will the newly established connection to Sony usher a time of false politically correctness at CCP? |
Irisandra T'Lavel
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:43:00 -
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Andski wrote:Angelus X wrote:lmao 10,000 accounts about to be unsubbed eh, CCP must be scareeeeee  $150,000+ in monthly subscriptions alone is certainly no big deal
And how many of these will be back in a month or two because they miss their internet spaceships?
I watched it, I dont know if it was live or a replay, after the DUST514 keynote. I thought it was pretty ****** up to say that, but I didn't foresee this kind of fallout over it. Either way, I am not losing any sleep over it, it's just a game. For those of you that take it as Serious Business, I am sorry. Not that you are losing "Dear leader" but that you let a game consume that much of your life.
If they do a new election would it be the people that already ran, or would the goons fight for a new rep to be included?
And to the useless pubbie/npc alt comments: At least my two votes went to someone still on the CSM... |
Zhade Lezte
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:45:00 -
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Damion Rayne wrote:Zhade Lezte wrote:To make it clear to those who don't have a hateon for mitanni and a fondness for distorting the truth towards your own agenda while maintaining a facade of self-righteousness, CCP pretty much unequivocally removed Mitanni from the CSM as opposed to Mitanni resigning.
Our latest CEO update on the forums mentions how he has chosen to resign from the charimanship but continue to work within the CSM as a regular member. Then this devblog was posted.
Don't fool yourself into thinking that he willingly resigned from the CSM, if that was the case it would be written that he resigned from the chairmanship and the CSM, instead of having resigned from the chairmanship and "forfeited" his position on the CSM.
Naturally of course, CCP's PR department has made sure to make it not clear what the truth of the matter really is: the disenfranchisement of 10,058 voters.
I'm disappointed at this but not particularly surprised they would take such an action with the media shitstorm and likely pressure from Sony due to their presence at fanfest due to Dust, they are a company after all and they'll do unjust things if it seems important enough for their business interests. I'm glad to hear that the other representatives are likely going to remain in contact with The Mitanni in spite of CCP's cowardice and I hope they will bring forth the interests of The Mitanni's constituents in their interactions with CCP.
Hopefully CCP's apparent fear of Sony and the gaming media will not result in a reduction to the harsh universe that made me stay around in Eve and brought so many of us here. We shall see soon enough! Do "Un Just" things? Un Just? Your'e glorious leader told people to force a man to kill himself, and you call CCPs' actions un just? News flash.. THE VERY EXISTENCE OF GOONSWARM IS UNJUST
I'm not sure how you got from Mitanni saying something that was definitely unjust, realizing this, and making amends to the best of his ability to "THE EXISTENCE OF GOONSWARM IS UNJUST!!1". CCP has failed to remove a player temp banned for RMTing from the CSM, and now removes Mitanni from the CSM, so it's pretty clear to me that while the ban may be fine, the boot from the CSM is a calculated move by CCP, likely under pressure from other entities.
Anyways, you are exactly the type of person I mentioned at the start of that post, so that's about as much of a reply as you're getting graced with.
I still maintain hope that CCP won't ruin the sandbox due to this event, as of now. We shall see. |
Aiden Andraste
State War Academy
Caldari State
160
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:53:00 -
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CCP saves face with Sony/Nvidia and the media while simultaneously disregarding 10058 players. Way to take all that effort you put into fanfest about listening to the community and flushing it down the commode. You just cant make this **** up. The irony is so massive, it needs a double sized version of whatever container that held The Mittani's ego to store it in. |
Kratisto
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:56:00 -
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It is my fervent hope that the jita hellcamp is long, bloody, tear-stained and brings pubbies like Issler Dainze to great annoyance.
the system will be lagged by the seemingly countless npc spawns of concord. Will ccp intervene? if so, then sony has assumed the role of CEO. |
Kozmic
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
28
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:56:00 -
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Idiocy.
And even if he did resign as a CSM 6 member, the CSM 7 is something else - the cards are shuffled anew and there is no connection between the two.
Free Mittani! |
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Kasumi Nakamoto
Treadstone71
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:57:00 -
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Silly decision.
Remove leadership status if you must pander to the people who are clearly using this opportunity to settle old scores. Listening to players is one thing, jumping every time they say jump is another.
Also, can you judge personal actions on game rules? The guy was clearly inebriated, and he won't be the last person to say something idiotic while under the influence.
Re-instate him, he got 10,000 people interested enough to vote in an online game and for all his goonish behaviour was humble enough to apologise as soon as he realised his fault. D |
Kai Pirinha
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:02:00 -
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RDevz wrote:You've disenfranchised 10,058 voters. Good job.
I hope you were speaking about that guy who got banned, and not CCP.
This is/was a totally unexceptable behaviour and he brought it all on himself.
Blaming CCP for this is just plain ridiculous because they didn't choose to misbehave. It was the guys fault and I'm glad that CCP took such actions and that they made it clear, that CSM are not above "the law" (above the EULA/TOS).
If anybody is to blame, it's the guy himself!
It's bad luck for the voters who trusted him, but he abused their trust. |
Josefine Drake
ISK Liberation Legion
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:02:00 -
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To anyone at CCP,
1. How is RL actions breaking a EULA/TOS?
2. You claimed to have seen and vetted the presentation and KNEW he was going to laugh at a particular character yet you are two faced about the entire thing and ban him.
3. He apologised, made restitution (isk), offered to step down from the chair and you still find a need to punish a democratically elected official?
Whom ever made this decision should lose their jobs at ccp. Worst customer service move ever.
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Chokichi Ozuwara
Lucky Dragon Convenience
49
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:03:00 -
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Kratisto wrote:It is my fervent hope that the jita hellcamp is long, bloody, tear-stained and brings pubbies like Issler Dainze to great annoyance.
the system will be lagged by the seemingly countless npc spawns of concord. Will ccp intervene? if so, then sony has assumed the role of CEO.
I hope it is really long because that will be great for business.
Start a corp and do it yourself. You'll fail, but you'll enjoy failing. Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |
Lock out
Shadows Of The Federation
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
8
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:06:00 -
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New elections surely ?
Also, extending TOS/EULA to rl actions (granted actions that took place at a CCP event) is concerning to say the least.
In any case, Mittens for CSM 8 :) |
Beidorion eldwardan
Corporation Danmark
Tactical Narcotics Team
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:06:00 -
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one account down ( of mine ) 10 more to go
what to do with all that money im going to save.
this is even more ******** than the spacepants CCP.
fix it or loose it.
hm... where is the door again... there it is.... im out... i wanted to and soe rude words... but best not to get the big bad ccp screwups to ban anymore accounts from cfc. |
Alphea Abbra
Project Promethion
17
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:18:00 -
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Kasumi Nakamoto wrote:Listening to players is one thing, jumping every time they say jump is another.
You mean that when CFC says "Nerf all Titans" that CCP shouldn't listen? Nice to know. 
This post (In the sense of what it conveys, not necessarily the post itself) can't be quoted enough:
Kai Pirinha wrote:RDevz wrote:You've disenfranchised 10,058 voters. Good job. I hope you were speaking about that guy who got banned, and not CCP. This is/was a totally unexceptable behaviour and he brought it all on himself. Blaming CCP for this is just plain ridiculous because they didn't choose to misbehave. It was the guys fault and I'm glad that CCP took such actions and that they made it clear, that CSM are not above "the law" (above the EULA/TOS). If anybody is to blame, it's the guy himself!It's bad luck for the voters who trusted him, but he abused their trust.
The CFC were posting about "we voted, we have a voice" all the way through CSM6, now he disgraced you and you lost the voice you voted for. You could've voted for someone who wouldn't disgrace you. So far, all my 4 votes are represented. |
Chicken Pizza
Penumbra Institute
27
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:29:00 -
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Wow, this is just saturated with big, salty Goon/Goon alt tears. Allow me to pull a Shyamalan for a moment...
What a twist! |
Ishihiro tanaka
NED-Clan
Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:34:00 -
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Well, here we go again, after 9 years of seeing this tidal wave come and go, it never get old :) Let's see where we end up this time shall we? |
Camios
Minmatar Bread Corporation
83
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:41:00 -
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But isn't the mittani a "manipulative bastard"? I know all this is part of his plan and he'll come back stronger than before.
It sucks to be the mittani.
It sucks to be goon.
But sometimes, just in some well defined situations, you must behave.
Internet spaceships are serious businness... the mittani didn't take it as seriously as he should have done.
If CCP let him stay, the image of EVE would be hit really hard. Mittani, why were you so stupid? I was starting to like you. |
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