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Kyle Myr
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:00:00 -
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If CCP chooses to remove the winner of this process, who received more votes than the next 3 candidates combined, it calls into question the whole election's validity at representing those who voted.
Rerun the election, or the results are worthless. |

THE L0CK
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:01:00 -
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Darius for CSM7 Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |

thekiller2002us
Order of Celestial Knights S I L E N T.
90
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:02:00 -
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MMMMMMM Goon tears are most delicious I'm with Brick on this one- make thouse carebearing b******s squeal.. |

Headerman
Quovis CORE Alliance
782
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:02:00 -
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IB4L The Apostle : I want a kangeroo Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US? Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why? |

Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control
160
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:03:00 -
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As someone who did not vote for The Mitanni I feel it would be only fair to re-run the CSM elections or at least give those who voted for The Mitanni a chance to vote for someone else. |

THE L0CK
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:03:00 -
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I'm right on top yo. Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |

GeeShizzle MacCloud
98
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:03:00 -
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THE L0CK wrote:Darius for CSM7
f**k off |

Gindack
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:03:00 -
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Also, if CCP is willing to action out of game/forum actions as a violation of our Terms of Use, what says they will not monitoring our Coms in the near future. It is a conspiracy against the Goon Agenda. |

Adrenalinemax
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
17
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:06:00 -
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re run
there is no other choice
The voice of the people spoke |

Kriegman
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
22
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:07:00 -
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Agreed, the vote has to be thrown out and new election held. Lots of people voted for Mittens. If he is gone our votes have to mean something if CSM is to have any legitimacy. |

Poison Tiger
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:08:00 -
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re-election please. |

Liam Mirren
382
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:08:00 -
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Kyle Myr wrote:If CCP chooses to remove the winner of this process, who received more votes than the next 3 candidates combined, it calls into question the whole election's validity at representing those who voted.
Rerun the election, or the results are worthless.
Elections were fair and square, no validity to question. It's just that AFTER the election said representative decided to mess up. Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
My guides: http://mirren.freeforums.org |

THE L0CK
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:10:00 -
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GeeShizzle MacCloud wrote:THE L0CK wrote:Darius for CSM7 f**k off
U mad bro? Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |

Kyle Myr
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
205
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:11:00 -
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Darius got his seat, and an a fairly run recount of votes, he'd win it again. As someone whose organization has its legitimacy questioned by this, he should be calling just as hard for this. |

Anya Klibor
Error-404
25
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:12:00 -
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Kyle Myr wrote:If CCP chooses to remove the winner of this process, who received more votes than the next 3 candidates combined, it calls into question the whole election's validity at representing those who voted.
Rerun the election, or the results are worthless.
These tears will be used as lube for my special alone time tonight. |

Ai Shun
453
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:12:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:As someone who did not vote for The Mitanni I feel it would be only fair to re-run the CSM elections or at least give those who voted for The Mitanni a chance to vote for someone else.
I agree, the CSM election should be re-run. We have lost the candidate that attracted 17% of the vote. To my mind that leaves the current CSM without a sufficient mandate. |

Aiwha
101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
277
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:13:00 -
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Mintrolio victor! Regards,
LCpl. Aiwha-á Senior Recruiter |

Kriegman
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
22
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:13:00 -
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Anya Klibor wrote:Kyle Myr wrote:If CCP chooses to remove the winner of this process, who received more votes than the next 3 candidates combined, it calls into question the whole election's validity at representing those who voted.
Rerun the election, or the results are worthless. These tears will be used as lube for my special alone time tonight.
Tears? No, another CFC candidate for CSM chair YES |

Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
577
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:14:00 -
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CCP did not re-run the elections in teh past when other CSM members were removed for TOS/EULA violations, why should they do it now?
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |

Ryunosuke Kusanagi
29
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:14:00 -
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I have to agree with this, when a large portion of the electoral ballots have suddenly become invalidated, Multiple things are gonna happen.
Future CSM votes will not nearly be as high. If at all. CSM WILL lose a lot, if not all credibility between CCP and CSM in the playerbase's eyes. See: Monoclegate
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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
171
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:14:00 -
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Liam Mirren wrote:Kyle Myr wrote:If CCP chooses to remove the winner of this process, who received more votes than the next 3 candidates combined, it calls into question the whole election's validity at representing those who voted.
Rerun the election, or the results are worthless. Elections were fair and square, no validity to question. It's just that AFTER the election said representative decided to mess up.
In what electoral system do you vote in where once the votes are in the other side automatically wins when dirt is found on the winning party? Because it has to be absolutely hilarious and I NEED to watch during election season. |

Amity Lane
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
106
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:15:00 -
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Kyle Myr wrote:If CCP chooses to remove the winner of this process, who received more votes than the next 3 candidates combined, it calls into question the whole election's validity at representing those who voted.
Rerun the election, or the results are worthless. That's not how it works. If a President is impeached and removed from office, they don't just hold a new Presidential election right then and there. There's an order of succession, and that's what will take over.
I can understand feeling disenfranchised right now. The person you voted for, and who won in what can only be described as a massive landslide, will not in fact be holding the position he was elected to. It seems unfair. Unfortunately, that's how the process works.
When you make a choice that doesn't work out for you, you can't just suddenly demand to do it over with new options. You have to live with the consequences of your choice. You chose a person who later committed actions that caused him to be removed from office.
Such is life. |

Anya Klibor
Error-404
25
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:15:00 -
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Kriegman wrote:Anya Klibor wrote:Kyle Myr wrote:If CCP chooses to remove the winner of this process, who received more votes than the next 3 candidates combined, it calls into question the whole election's validity at representing those who voted.
Rerun the election, or the results are worthless. These tears will be used as lube for my special alone time tonight. Tears? No, another CFC candidate for CSM chair YES
Oh God yes, keep them coming! |

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
410
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:16:00 -
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If they rerun the election, can I vote for mittens again anyway?
--Will Support Your Terrible Forum Thread For ISK-- |

Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc Order of the Void
240
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:16:00 -
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Kriegman wrote:Agreed, the vote has to be thrown out and new election held. Lots of Goons voted for Mittens. If he is gone our votes have to mean something if CSM is to have any legitimacy.
Fixed. |

Anya Klibor
Error-404
25
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:21:00 -
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Ryunosuke Kusanagi wrote:I have to agree with this, when a large portion of the electoral ballots have suddenly become invalidated, Multiple things are gonna happen.
Future CSM votes will not nearly be as high. If at all. CSM WILL lose a lot, if not all credibility between CCP and CSM in the playerbase's eyes. See: Monoclegate
They were invalidated because of the elected official's incompetence. If it was vote tampering, you might have a point. |

Ai Shun
455
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:22:00 -
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Amity Lane wrote:That's not how it works. If a President is impeached and removed from office, they don't just hold a new Presidential election right then and there. There's an order of succession, and that's what will take over.
I can understand feeling disenfranchised right now. The person you voted for, and who won in what can only be described as a massive landslide, will not in fact be holding the position he was elected to. It seems unfair. Unfortunately, that's how the process works.
When you make a choice that doesn't work out for you, you can't just suddenly demand to do it over with new options. You have to live with the consequences of your choice. You chose a person who later committed actions that caused him to be removed from office.
Such is life.
Research "By-Election". The Mittani is not a president, but a member of a house. |

ChYph3r
Multiplex Gaming SpaceMonkey's Alliance
29
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:27:00 -
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My deal with this is Mittens took did something we all do within our corps, alliances and coms. He did it in public. I don't understand why saying a persons in game name can cause so much ****. Its not like its his real life name. Thus the anonymity was kept.
CCP has now just shat all over the 10058 people that voted for The Mittani.
PS Darius is still an ass.
FREE THE MITTANI ---- 10058AMP - Angry Monkey Podcast-á |

Amity Lane
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
106
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:27:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Amity Lane wrote:That's not how it works. If a President is impeached and removed from office, they don't just hold a new Presidential election right then and there. There's an order of succession, and that's what will take over.
I can understand feeling disenfranchised right now. The person you voted for, and who won in what can only be described as a massive landslide, will not in fact be holding the position he was elected to. It seems unfair. Unfortunately, that's how the process works.
When you make a choice that doesn't work out for you, you can't just suddenly demand to do it over with new options. You have to live with the consequences of your choice. You chose a person who later committed actions that caused him to be removed from office.
Such is life. Research "By-Election". The Mittani is not a president, but a member of a house. By-elections only apply when there's not a line of succession in place.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that what the CSM alternates are for?
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Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control
161
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:28:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:CCP did not re-run the elections in the past when other CSM members were removed for TOS/EULA violations, why should they do it now?
Those events were well into the terms of the CSM members and another election or chance for certain people to vote again would disrupt what was going on in the CSM.
The CSM elections just ended, the CSM hasn't even had the time to actually do anything and thus it would be appropriate for votes to be cast now while nothing has actually happened. |
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