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Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
156
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:09:00 -
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Kyle Myr wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:why?
because a lot of dudes voted for a guy who decided to decline the CSM chairman position?
should've voted better So you can't read, didn't read, or don't care what I typed. Fine. At least you're posting on your main. This has nothing to do with the chair. Stepping down from the chair doesn't disenfranchise voters. Removing the seat disenfranchises voters. Granted, I imagine you're posting because you're presuming this is some sort of internet anger from me, implying some sort of victory from what you presume to be your own faction. That, honestly, is why I post. Because if that's what you think, it makes my own terrible posting look that much better by comparison. It's apparent there's only two sides to this. The people who hate hate hate Goons and want anything associated to burn. The people who want to see a so called democratic election not be sullied by CCP's overreaction and disregard for those who voted. Then there's all the terrible trolls who constantly **** up everything in sight. |

Kiwi Momaki
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:14:00 -
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Ha ha your actually serious... Keep them tears flowing...  |

Lexmana
Imperial Stout
325
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:16:00 -
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This is a victory for the indifferent ones that will flock like vultures whenever they smell death but doesn't care enough to cast a vote in the election. A sad day in EVE. |

Manji Lee
Missions Mining and Mayhem Northern Coalition.
49
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:20:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Manji Lee wrote:Panda Name wrote:Manji Lee wrote:If there's a re-vote. Then I call for bullshit. He was never a good man to begin with. Manipulative, crude, and arrogant type of son of the ***** he was. And yet you people voted for him!? Not to mention all this yelling about how CCP sack him from CSM when in reality he resigned from it.
Peeps need to take a chill pill and accept the fact before jumping to conclusion.  ncDOT  I don't hide behind alts. No one is saying anything about alts, but as someone from an alliance with something to gain out of all this, your people's opinions should be taken with a boulder of salt.
Well, we have nothing to gain from this aside from all the lol's from Mitt's. If you truly believe were ridding yjis for buff's in our favor. I can assure that your wrong with your opinions. EvE is a constantly changing internet space ship cog. A game full of risk. You either adapt or falter. Yes, I'll admit there's some drama about CSM changes within our ranks. But, we don't really mind as much as some people make it out to be. However, you can find that in any alliance you can go to;drama that is.
As I continue on about what Mittens. It's something that we can not condone. His actions were uncalled for and unprofessional. Not only he made an attack on someone in real life. But, also tarnish the image of the eve community. Therefore, he must take full responsibility of his actions. If anyone stands up for him. Then your no better person then he is. |

Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
156
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:22:00 -
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Lexmana wrote:This is a victory for the indifferent ones that will flock like vultures whenever they smell death but doesn't care enough to cast a vote in the election. A sad day in EVE. Yeah, the idea of the CSM was a great one. Too bad that CCP is now in full PR and marketing mode. Oh well, they are here to make money primarily. |

RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
540
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:22:00 -
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Aiden Andraste wrote:Kyle Myr wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:why?
because a lot of dudes voted for a guy who decided to decline the CSM chairman position?
should've voted better So you can't read, didn't read, or don't care what I typed. Fine. At least you're posting on your main. This has nothing to do with the chair. Stepping down from the chair doesn't disenfranchise voters. Removing the seat disenfranchises voters. Granted, I imagine you're posting because you're presuming this is some sort of internet anger from me, implying some sort of victory from what you presume to be your own faction. That, honestly, is why I post. Because if that's what you think, it makes my own terrible posting look that much better by comparison. It's apparent there's only two sides to this. The people who hate hate hate Goons and want anything associated to burn. The people who want to see a so called democratic election not be sullied by CCP's overreaction and disregard for those who voted. Then there's all the terrible trolls who constantly **** up everything in sight.
he committed what is likely a real world crime
there is an alternate system for this very reason.
Freaking goons and pets, who knew they were such babies. Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence"-á |

Kyle Myr
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
229
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:26:00 -
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Kiwi Momaki wrote:Ha ha your actually serious... Keep them tears flowing... 
You can't read, or spell. At the end of the day it's space pixels in a game made by a company. I'm pointing out a few things because other people seem to have missed them, and I'm bored.
Honestly, http://jestertrek.blogspot.com/2012/03/so-they-made-me-their-chief.html says it better, and covers what probably will happen. As far as my alliance is concerned, Mittani being removed from the CSM is probably the best thing that could happen for us, in terms of morale. The only way CCP is likely to actually call a rerun of the election is if the vast majority of the remaining elected CSM members resign over this.
Either way, interesting times, and business as usual, all at the same time. |

Kyle Myr
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
229
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:32:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote: he committed what is likely a real world crime
there is an alternate system for this very reason.
Freaking goons and pets, who knew they were such babies.
Obviously logic has no role here, so I'll go with your level of trolling, because I'm bored.
Capitalize the beginning of your sentences, and end them with proper punctuation, like periods. These are your friends, and they help you pretend you're able to communicate with written words, like an actual human being.
Another tip for effective writing is that faux cursing such as 'freaking' makes you look childish. If you're going to type *******, type *******. I understand there's a word filter on this forum, but you can read between the lines.
You used the proper form of there on the second line, though, so I must credit give where credit is due. You somehow dodged one of the more common mistakes in written english, proving that stopped clocks are in fact occasionally right.
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Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
700
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:33:00 -
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Kyle Myr wrote:Rerun the election, or the results are worthless.
You put all your eggs in one basket and dropped it. Go make an omelet.
Granted you are waiting till mittens is unbanned and said omelet will be called Jita, just I don't know...
~deal with it~
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Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
160
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:35:00 -
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Ryunosuke Kusanagi wrote:I have to agree with this, when a large portion of the electoral ballots have suddenly become invalidated, Multiple things are gonna happen.
Future CSM votes will not nearly be as high. If at all. CSM WILL lose a lot, if not all credibility between CCP and CSM in the playerbase's eyes. See: Monoclegate
CCP used Mittens as a martyr to Sony/Nvidia and the media to prop up their image and the CSM as an institution is rendered irrelevant because of it. Some brilliant decisions coming out of CCP lately. |
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Karim alRashid
Aliastra Gallente Federation
148
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:40:00 -
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Rerun the election. That's all.
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evereplicant
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
71
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:45:00 -
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Kyle Myr wrote:If CCP chooses to remove the winner of this process, who received more votes than the next 3 candidates combined, it calls into question the whole election's validity at representing those who voted.
Rerun the election, or the results are worthless.
Ok I'll agree to this as long as no goons and alts can vote, ok? Then let's see |

Sugar Von MurdererTits
Shameless Suicidal Space Barbies
21
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:46:00 -
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Can someone please tell me if the rumour is correct that Two Step the current chairman is the alt of Dabigredboat, a Goon? |

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
93
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:50:00 -
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Manji Lee wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:Manji Lee wrote:Panda Name wrote:Manji Lee wrote:If there's a re-vote. Then I call for bullshit. He was never a good man to begin with. Manipulative, crude, and arrogant type of son of the ***** he was. And yet you people voted for him!? Not to mention all this yelling about how CCP sack him from CSM when in reality he resigned from it.
Peeps need to take a chill pill and accept the fact before jumping to conclusion.  ncDOT  I don't hide behind alts. No one is saying anything about alts, but as someone from an alliance with something to gain out of all this, your people's opinions should be taken with a boulder of salt. Well, we have nothing to gain from this aside from all the lol's from Mitt's. If you truly believe were ridding this for buff's in our favor. I can assure that your wrong with your opinions. EvE is a constantly changing internet space ship cog. A game full of risk. You either adapt or falter. Yes, I'll admit there's some drama about CSM changes within our ranks. But, we don't really mind as much as some people make it out to be. However, you can find that in any alliance you can go to;drama that is. As I continue on about what Mittens. It's something that we can not condone. His actions were uncalled for and unprofessional. Not only he made an attack on someone in real life. But, also tarnish the image of the eve community. Therefore, he must take full responsibility of what he has done. If anyone stands up for him for his recent actions at the fanfest. Then your no better person then he is.
You're saying that as a member of an alliance personally affected by changes Mittani brought forth, a member of an alliance with a *grudge* and is in active war with Goonswarm Federation, that the banning of Mittani doesn't help you gain anything.
If you say so.
ncDOT |

Ivana Twinkle
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
196
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:56:00 -
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Sugar Von MurdererTits wrote:Can someone please tell me if the rumour is correct that Two Step the current chairman is the alt of Dabigredboat, a Goon?
Not at all  |

Sugar Von MurdererTits
Shameless Suicidal Space Barbies
22
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:08:00 -
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Ivana Twinkle wrote:Sugar Von MurdererTits wrote:Can someone please tell me if the rumour is correct that Two Step the current chairman is the alt of Dabigredboat, a Goon? Not at all 
Seems to me like the CSM is a bit of a joke. Can't say I am surprised so few people bother voting. |

Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
161
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:10:00 -
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Sugar Von MurdererTits wrote:Ivana Twinkle wrote:Sugar Von MurdererTits wrote:Can someone please tell me if the rumour is correct that Two Step the current chairman is the alt of Dabigredboat, a Goon? Not at all  Seems to me like the CSM is a bit of a joke. Can't say I am surprised so few people bother voting. Unfortunately, after this incident, it's likely that many more will ignore the CSM next time around. |

Kiandoshia
Gnampf Inc.
24
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:11:00 -
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How many people voted in total? What percentage of the playerbase is that? I seriously doubt that anything was being represented in the first place lol. |

Arcathra
Technodyne Ltd.
217
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:14:00 -
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Stop whining Goons... or just continue. It's really funny .
Vote for someone more competent next time and deal with it. You lost. |

Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
27
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:15:00 -
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Kyle Myr wrote:If CCP chooses to remove the winner of this process, who received more votes than the next 3 candidates combined, it calls into question the whole election's validity at representing those who voted.
Rerun the election, or the results are worthless.
The tears are threatening to overwelm even the best swimmers, please refrain from excessive tears for at least a week.... Looking to stamp out apiphobia in my lifetime..... |
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Manji Lee
Missions Mining and Mayhem Northern Coalition.
49
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:16:00 -
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Cool story bro! Don't worry Lapine, I'm Chribba after all!   
But, to be honest. The last term of the CSM. Was the best one, yet! Minus a few suggestion that was made to the dev's that would of have an negative impact on eve if brought forth.  |

Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
27
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:18:00 -
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Kyle Myr wrote:Kiwi Momaki wrote:Ha ha your actually serious... Keep them tears flowing...  You can't read, or spell. At the end of the day it's space pixels in a game made by a company. I'm pointing out a few things because other people seem to have missed them, and I'm bored. Honestly, http://jestertrek.blogspot.com/2012/03/so-they-made-me-their-chief.html says it better, and covers what probably will happen. As far as my alliance is concerned, Mittani being removed from the CSM is probably the best thing that could happen for us, in terms of morale. The only way CCP is likely to actually call a rerun of the election is if the vast majority of the remaining elected CSM members resign over this. Either way, interesting times, and business as usual, all at the same time.
Isn't spinning this as a good thing in direct contrast with your foaming rabble demanding he be reinstated confusing the Hive? I was was just kidding about the CCD, really...
Looking to stamp out apiphobia in my lifetime..... |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1080
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:18:00 -
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Kyle Myr wrote:If CCP chooses to remove the winner of this process.
CCP didn't choose to do it. The mittani chose to remove himself by being a ******* moron.
Mr Epeen 
Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |

Le Cardinal
Spricer Raiden.
12
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:26:00 -
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Kyle Myr wrote:If CCP chooses to remove the winner of this process, who received more votes than the next 3 candidates combined, it calls into question the whole election's validity at representing those who voted.
Rerun the election, or the results are worthless.
lol
So let me get you right. The Mittani gets elected as csm chairman with 10000 votes. He then does something out of order that cost him the csm chair. And you demand a reelection because your candidate screwed up? Please tell me this also work in real life. We have a few politicians i dont like. I will call for a reelection.
What was it goons spammed the other threads with? Oh yeah now i recall: A boo a boo a boo
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Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
162
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:33:00 -
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Le Cardinal wrote:Kyle Myr wrote:If CCP chooses to remove the winner of this process, who received more votes than the next 3 candidates combined, it calls into question the whole election's validity at representing those who voted.
Rerun the election, or the results are worthless. lol So let me get you right. The Mittani gets elected as csm chairman with 10000 votes. He then does something out of order that cost him the csm chair. And you demand a reelection because your candidate screwed up? Please tell me this also work in real life. We have a few politicians i dont like. I will call for a reelection. What was it goons spammed the other threads with? Oh yeah now i recall: A boo a boo a boo Oh look, this post again. We need MOAR comparisons to RL politics please. Dont be shy, badposters! This shithole of a forum is your stage. |

T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
534
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:58:00 -
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no www.shipsofeve.com
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RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
561
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:59:00 -
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Aiden Andraste wrote:Le Cardinal wrote:Kyle Myr wrote:If CCP chooses to remove the winner of this process, who received more votes than the next 3 candidates combined, it calls into question the whole election's validity at representing those who voted.
Rerun the election, or the results are worthless. lol So let me get you right. The Mittani gets elected as csm chairman with 10000 votes. He then does something out of order that cost him the csm chair. And you demand a reelection because your candidate screwed up? Please tell me this also work in real life. We have a few politicians i dont like. I will call for a reelection. What was it goons spammed the other threads with? Oh yeah now i recall: A boo a boo a boo Oh look, this post again. We need MOAR comparisons to RL politics please. Dont be shy, badposters! This shithole of a forum is your stage. '
Goon pet alt complains about RL creeping into the game.
Hilarious. Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence"-á |

Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
449
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:05:00 -
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Agreed. A rerun of teh whoel process from teh start is necessary really, fully a fifth of teh voters need to revote for someone. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |

Heet Crusher
Drunk Chaos Unprovoked Aggression
13
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:15:00 -
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Can i get some goggles up in here. Tears are just too much. Goonies just lite some candles and sing kumbaya. |

Hiram Alexander
Seraphim Securities
193
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:22:00 -
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If Riverini - a man who'd openly published detailed guides on how to bot without getting caught - had been banned from the CSM for the same offence as Alex, would that ~10058~ tactical block of voters suddenly demand a re-holding of elections, or a re-vote for his ~1067~ constituents...?
My guess is no chance... I'd be willing to bet that they'd be pissing themselves laughing at both him, and his voters... And so would I.
What if it had been the even less loved Xenuria... Would there be a righteous wave of e-honour on his behalf, threatening un-subs if his ~200~ (wtf?) voters weren't allowed to recast their, possibly insane, votes...?
Hell, no.
I've already made my thoughts known on the event itself, but on the subject of re-voting. No... I can only speak for myself, but in my opinion, as much as it must hurt for those who now feel their votes were wasted, I don't believe a re-vote should be allowed.
The ~10058~ chose to vote tactically, and put all their eggs in one basket... The handle fell off...
Make an omelette. |
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