i hope they arent getting nerfed i just started this game and going down the missile path......

Missiles always hit as long as the ship isn't faster than the missiles, no falloff, no tracking, no capacitor usage, and you can pick your damage type. The raven even has a damage bonus that applies to all missile damage types. Missiles are easy.

Missiles always hit as long as the ship isn't faster than the missiles, no falloff, no tracking, no capacitor usage, and you can pick your damage type. The raven even has a damage bonus that applies to all missile damage types. Missiles are easy.

IDK about this thread too much tbh but you do realise that you are giving a new player self-contradictory advice in these few lines I hope...

Missiles always hit as long as the ship isn't faster than the missiles, no falloff, no tracking, no capacitor usage, and you can pick your damage type. The raven even has a damage bonus that applies to all missile damage types. Missiles are easy.

Which is why we have to worry about Signature radius, explosion radius, explosion velocity, the enemies velocity.
I can make turrets sound easy, stay in optimal range and fire right? No turrets aren't easy, but neither are missiles.

In a thread, posting.

Missiles always hit as long as the ship isn't faster than the missiles,

Mr. Defender Missile likes to disagree.

Also, hitting for next to no damage is, for all practical purposes, identical to missing.

Lets be honost, nobody uses that ****.

NATO is building more and more anti missile bases all over the world so yes, missiles are getting nerfed.

Really? -and what ammo do those use?

Honestly I'm surprised there isn't alreay some form of EWAR module to counter missile.

Granted, defender missiles might need looking into (I've never used them, so no personal experience there). You can also destroy missiles with smart bombs.

Large missiles also so terrible damage to small targets, even if they're not moving quickly. This is unlike a larger turret, which can still pop a frigate as long as said frigate can be tracked effectively.

Lets be honost, nobody uses that ****.

The other way to look at it would be a nerf to the Drake and the Tengu as they are the two main guided missile boats everyone wants "rebalanced".

Right and blanket nerfing missiles to get at the drake/tengu is about as intelligent as blanket nerfing turrets to do the same to the fotm angel ships.

Ham-fisted attempts to make everything relevant in the current balance status quo are going to re-enforce the winners and losers. If missiles take one on the chin, the tengu is still the best missle ship in the game.

The problem is usually the hulls, not the mods.

Plus the overuse of the hull that is a problem. Notice there are not many whines about OP cerbs/caracal/ navy caracal lol.

Not everything is about pvp.

[quote=Perihelion Olenard]Also, hitting for next to no damage is, for all practical purposes, identical to missing.

(Citadel Torps don't instakill rfters, by the way)

Mr. Defender Missile likes to disagree.

Also, hitting for next to no damage is, for all practical purposes, identical to missing.

Why should missiles get nerved? Have I missed something?

If missiles were that good that they needed a nerf wouldn't they be used more in PvP situations?

As it stands I get attacked with guns more than missiles.

CFC's Drake blob would like a word with you.

CFC's Drake blob would like a word with you.

Missiles always hit as long as the ship isn't faster than the missiles, no falloff, no tracking, no capacitor usage, and you can pick your damage type. The raven even has a damage bonus that applies to all missile damage types. Missiles are easy.

NATO is building more and more anti missile bases all over the world so yes, missiles are getting nerfed.

I think one of the big problems with missile boats is the stupidly long range that's useless in almost every situation in EvE (PvE or PvP)

The Drake Blob is only our support fleet, because 6 full fleets of maelstroms is just stupid.

CFC's Drake blob would like a word with you.

Missiles lose that 25% over their flight distance -s they do more damage the closer they are

So how about missile falloff

Missiles are a mix of fuel and explosives - say 25% solid fuel = therm, range is still the same, but the 'payload'
value is 75% overall. Missiles lose that 25% over their flight distance -s they do more damage the closer they are

T2 variants have a better payload ratio + usual diffs, Faction the same but just payload

Well it isn't that hard to screw up a missile guidance system. The other way to look at it would be a nerf to the Drake and the Tengu as they are the two main guided missile boats everyone wants "rebalanced". Honestly I'm surprised there isn't alreay some form of EWAR module to counter missile. A "rebalance" of HAM's and torps would be needed to help offset the change, perhaps the Drake bonus change is the first step?

If CCP nerfs missiles im Un-subbing.

With my horrid gunnery skills, lack of Minmatar training, and t1 drones, my rupture pushes similar DPS to my HML 100mn tengu.
So what do I get for training caldari/tengu/hml? I get to dictate range, a COUNTER to guns.

We don't need to worry about tracking, but an afterburning frig that has a small sig can effectuvely pin us down while turreted ships get close and melt us with their far superior damage output.

It seems to me that most of the people crying for nerfs here are the kind who press approach + F1 and pray for a kill, otherwise they would understand that every ship + weapon systems has advantages + disadvantages, which when choosing a target you must consider.

If you are getting kited by fast missile boats, I only ask you one thing, where was your Huginn/Rapier pilot?

Also, making tracking disruptors affect missile damage is stupid, they are a counter designed for turrets, in the same manner that defenders/speedtank counters missiles. The solution isn't to nerf missiles, but buff the counter to them, so smart pilots who fit to counter a certain style of piloting get kills, not those who hit approach+f1 regardless of the enemies ship/fit. Plus, the curse/pilgrim will be so OP. Like uber OP.