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Jonak
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.10.16 23:37:00 -
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I want to know when the Orca will be on SISI.
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Kalderion Mar
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Posted - 2008.10.17 06:06:00 -
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Edited by: Kalderion Mar on 17/10/2008 06:06:23
 Originally by: Bloody Rabbit
Originally by: Kalderion Mar
We going to get Mining rewards with this expansion too?????? meaning, on regular mining agents, not the ORE ones.. still waiting for that faction Hulk!! (NO IT DOESNT HAVE TO MINE BETTER, just a cool paint job and the Name.)
Do you have the Ore strip miners?
If you take time to code something it needs to be useful so that players use it. If they do make a faction Hulk, then I hope it will have a better tank for 0.0 mining; as is we need deadspace gear to tank the 0.0 belts.
No, my indy character doesnt have the ORE strips, hes got an HX-2 and a michi's, and with command bonus does 1960m3 or thereabouts, with 22k range... the ore strips would be quite a bit less yield, even if the range was better, and with me, yield is biblical, add on to that the 600 to 800 mil price tag for three of them and I can easily pass on them and not feel like i missed out on anything.
I also agree on the tank being better on a faction hulk. Ive tanked 0.0 rats, and its not easy with a t2 set up. Again, your talking over a quarter of a bil for a gist a type booster alone, add in faction hardeners etc... not something i want to turn over to the guy that catches me napping in a 0.0 belt... however, if a faction hulk had better resists, and could tank the 0.0 rats with t2 gear... well then, the hulk would blow up, leaving only the t2 mods that are cheap for them to scrounge out of the wreckage.. in which case, i could live with the loss :P
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KAELA MENSHA
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Posted - 2008.10.17 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Jonak
I want to know when the Orca will be on SISI.
Join the queue
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2008.10.17 20:14:00 -
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Edited by: Chribba on 17/10/2008 20:16:12
FYI it's there now.
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0810/orca.JPG
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0810/orca2.JPG
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0810/orcaskin.JPG
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0810/orcableu.JPG
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0810/Orca.wmv
... or at least in the game files...
Courtesy of Mr Dr Prometheus
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Jonak
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.10.17 20:24:00 -
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Thanks. I'll check it out once I get home. 
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Dr Prometheus
Caldari
Gears of Construction
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Posted - 2008.10.17 20:27:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Prometheus on 17/10/2008 20:27:46
Thank you Chribba for posting it here :)
- Dude where is my Charon? - |
KAELA MENSHA
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Posted - 2008.10.17 22:55:00 -
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whats the stats
please
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Jonak
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.10.18 00:07:00 -
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I checked SISI and I can't find it. Oh well. We'll actually see it someday.
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Lustralis
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Posted - 2008.10.18 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
Edited by: Chribba on 17/10/2008 20:16:12
FYI it's there now.
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0810/orca.JPG
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0810/orca2.JPG
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0810/orcaskin.JPG
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0810/orcableu.JPG
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0810/Orca.wmv
... or at least in the game files...
Courtesy of Mr Dr Prometheus
Hey Chribba, is it a high-sec mining command ship/hauler/freighter, what? I guess you don't know. I can't be arsed to read the entire other thread, so please feel free to speculate ;).
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Dracthera
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Posted - 2008.10.18 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Lustralis
Hey Chribba, is it a high-sec mining command ship/hauler/freighter, what? I guess you don't know. I can't be arsed to read the entire other thread, so please feel free to speculate ;).
My personal take, and based on dev responses, is that the Orca is intended as a hisec mining support ship, meaning essentially a mining hauling vessel. With a 250k cargo capacity, and the ability to haul and empty cans, it becomes a bigger version of a mining hauler, although not as big as a freighter. I'm planning to use it instead of a freighter.
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2008.10.18 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Dracthera
Originally by: Lustralis
Hey Chribba, is it a high-sec mining command ship/hauler/freighter, what? I guess you don't know. I can't be arsed to read the entire other thread, so please feel free to speculate ;).
My personal take, and based on dev responses, is that the Orca is intended as a hisec mining support ship, meaning essentially a mining hauling vessel. With a 250k cargo capacity, and the ability to haul and empty cans, it becomes a bigger version of a mining hauler, although not as big as a freighter. I'm planning to use it instead of a freighter.
The only official response has been that its primary function will be as a transition between transports and freighters. Filling the gap between the 900k and 40k cargo space holdings.
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Dr Prometheus
Caldari
Gears of Construction
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Posted - 2008.10.18 20:37:00 -
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A dev also said its a Highsec Rorqual thingy.
- Dude where is my Charon? - |
Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.10.18 20:38:00 -
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Let me speculate that the T1 version will be a simple big hauler and the T2 version will be the mining foreman ship.
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Ideas for: Mining
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Dr Prometheus
Caldari
Gears of Construction
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Posted - 2008.10.18 20:55:00 -
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Yeah another bullshit 5 billion ship :P
- Dude where is my Charon? - |
donzie
Caldari
Stormlord Battleforce
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.10.18 22:27:00 -
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A bughunter linked it somewhere on test server, its just not seeded yet and the info isnt finished yet(like the description and picture, but the required skills were already there and so were the stats).
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Originally by: CCP Atropos
I was like, "no wai dude" and they were like "uhuh" so I said "NO WAI" and they said "uhuh" |
Mishirosen
Gallente
Metalworks
THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2008.10.19 01:12:00 -
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Originally by: donzie
A bughunter linked it somewhere on test server, its just not seeded yet and the info isnt finished yet(like the description and picture, but the required skills were already there and so were the stats).
and what are the required skills?
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Clansworth
Burning Sky Labs
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.10.19 03:21:00 -
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Originally by: Mishirosen
Originally by: donzie
A bughunter linked it somewhere on test server, its just not seeded yet and the info isnt finished yet(like the description and picture, but the required skills were already there and so were the stats).
and what are the required skills?
Not that you could necessarily go on it, as it is obviously not final, it is basically the same skill reqs as the rorqual, minus the jump drive stuff. It filters down to training Capital Industrial Ships to I, and you meet the req's.
The stats on SiSi are obviously not complete, the material req's are not set, the capacity is only showing 20,000m¦, with no corp hanger, and oly 2 low slots, so that obviously won't fill the gap they are trying to fill... what I'm saying is, take them with a grain of salt for now. There's still montsh to go until the expansion.
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2008.10.19 06:26:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Fitz on 19/10/2008 06:26:12
Originally by: Abrazzar
Let me speculate that the T1 version will be a simple big hauler and the T2 version will be the mining foreman ship.
No fair I speculated that first.
But really, it's the only way.
To fill the 'small freighter' role, it has to be much cheaper than a normal freighter. In order for it to fill the 'mining support' role, it would either need to be very heavily nerfed, or somewhere in price between a freighter and a rorqual.
I can't see how you can do this with the one ship without failing horribly at one role or the other.
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The only official response has been that its primary function will be as a transition between transports and freighters. Filling the gap between the 900k and 40k cargo space holdings.
The only official response has been that ONE OF it's functions will be as a transition between transports and freighters.
Originally by: CCP t0rfifrans
CCP is a greedy money chewing monster
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CCP Chronotis
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Posted - 2008.10.19 12:51:00 -
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the textures you see there are provisional ones so we could continue with our prototyping internally. A blog about the orca complete with high res screenshots of the complete new model will be coming out hopefully sometime this week.
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Menthal
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.10.19 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Chronotis
the textures you see there are provisional ones so we could continue with our prototyping internally. A blog about the orca complete with high res screenshots of the complete new model will be coming out hopefully sometime this week.
Thanks for info Chronotis, i (and i believe most of the mining community) will be looking forward to this blog.
pretty yellow beams
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Clansworth
Burning Sky Labs
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.10.19 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Menthal's sig
pretty yellow beams
This reminds me, any chance of mining lasers getting color coding in the future? Match the color of the installed crystal?
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Kalderion Mar
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Posted - 2008.10.19 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Chronotis
the textures you see there are provisional ones so we could continue with our prototyping internally. A blog about the orca complete with high res screenshots of the complete new model will be coming out hopefully sometime this week.
YAY
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Dr Prometheus
Caldari
Gears of Construction
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Posted - 2008.10.19 21:21:00 -
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NEW Model or just the skin? Because i like the looks of this baby. (Otherwise if you will get a new model put this one also in as a ORE Freighter please :P)
- Dude where is my Charon? - |
McFly
C0LDFIRE
RUDE Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.22 10:13:00 -
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Edited by: McFly on 22/10/2008 10:13:39
The Orca from my research (all from test server/SQL Dump) is not going to be a bigger cargoholding rorqual. From what I can tell it will process ore, have foreman link bonuses and etc.
The key point I see in it's use in empire is going to be for compressing and processing in systems that have no stations. You will still most likely see haulers running to these babies in the belt to grab the processed ore, drop of fuel and head to the nearest station hub.
I plan on implementing one for Ice Mining. Hopefully it's cargohold will allow that. There's no station in the system and I have a Highsec pos there for mining ops. It will be interesting (once it hits SiSi) to see how many Mackinaws a single Orca can support.
Looking forward to that blog CCP.
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Clansworth
Burning Sky Labs
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.10.22 11:29:00 -
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Originally by: McFly
The Orca from my research (all from test server/SQL Dump) is not going to be a bigger cargoholding rorqual. From what I can tell it will process ore, have foreman link bonuses and etc.
I believe Chronitis mentioned that the info on the test server is old placeholder info, and in no real way reflects the actual ship. So far, the only 'real' information is the model itself, which was found in the patch, and the word from Chronitis that it will fill the gap between haulers and freighers (cargo wise). This just accentuates the point that the 20,000m¦ cargo hold listed on the test server is FAR from accurate.
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Niru Tiara
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.10.23 08:37:00 -
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Edited by: Niru Tiara on 23/10/2008 08:38:35
found on eve-files.com
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/ChiaraLorn/Orca2.jpg
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/ChiaraLorn/Orca.jpg
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0810/orcacleanmy6.jpg
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Shintai
Gallente
Balad Naran Orbital Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.10.23 09:35:00 -
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Originally by: Niru Tiara
Edited by: Niru Tiara on 23/10/2008 08:38:35
found on eve-files.com
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/ChiaraLorn/Orca2.jpg
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/ChiaraLorn/Orca.jpg
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0810/orcacleanmy6.jpg
Pure ****! 
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Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry |
Kalderion Mar
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Posted - 2008.10.23 13:07:00 -
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thats actually one of the better designed ships ive seen in this game, at least as far as looks.
I like the 6 (storage?) pods on the sides.. what are the chances those pods can be dropped off at a belt to be filled up and picked up again in 2 or 3 hours, before they deteriorate?.. ok, dreaming again but was a good idea and would get rid of the jetcans. Also be a nice isk sink to be able to build replacement pods for the dopes that forget to pick them up, or the ones that get popped. Should be able to fit a jump drive mod to it as well when in lowsec so it can be used like a JF, and have to remove the JD Mod to get it back into highsec, might also be a good way to catch a few of them at a gate when they forget to uneqip the JD. just speculating / dreaming again.
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Kalderion Mar
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Posted - 2008.10.23 13:13:00 -
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thats actually one of the better designed ships ive seen in this game, at least as far as looks.
I like the 6 (storage?) pods on the sides.. what are the chances those pods can be dropped off at a belt to be filled up and picked up again in 2 or 3 hours, before they deteriorate?.. ok, dreaming again but was a good idea and would get rid of the jetcans. Also be a nice isk sink to be able to build replacement pods for the dopes that forget to pick them up, or the ones that get popped. Should be able to fit a jump drive mod to it as well when in lowsec so it can be used like a JF, and have to remove the JD Mod to get it back into highsec, might also be a good way to catch a few of them at a gate when they forget to uneqip the JD. just speculating / dreaming again.
Edit;
A can flippers dream come true? a full orca pod in a belt untended and unwatched!!!! or is it a trap?
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Kalderion Mar
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Posted - 2008.10.23 18:26:00 -
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Edited by: Kalderion Mar on 23/10/2008 18:26:48
http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=597
looks like the speculation and wait is over :)
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