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Balcura	Posted - 2008.10.03 00:23:00 - [31] Still want that cargo bay to be a corp bay so that only player corp can access the cargo bay, meaning they can be war dec'd and keeps them out of the macro miner hands.
Darth Felin	Posted - 2008.10.03 10:04:00 - [32] Edited by: Darth Felin on 03/10/2008 10:04:40 Originally by: Balcura Still want that cargo bay to be a corp bay so that only player corp can access the cargo bay, meaning they can be war dec'd and keeps them out of the macro miner hands. I won't bet on it. It won't be mini freighter then. The problem will be not only for NPC corp members but also not all corp members have an access to corp hangar. Freighter is a personal asset imho, not a corporate one.
Jocca Quinn Matari BackBone Fate Weavers	Posted - 2008.10.03 10:09:00 - [33] Edited by: Jocca Quinn on 03/10/2008 10:10:41 Originally by: KAELA MENSHA Originally by: CCP Chronotis The placeholder stats are very much useless and relic from an age where we did not have branched static data. Information will be forthcoming in the near future on the Orca, however I will reiterate what we have said publically before which is that one of its primary roles we are set upon is that it will serve to fill the gap between the industrial and the freighter and have cargo capacity geared towards that. ----------------------------------------------------------- Fine nothing more than a large industrial then . And not worth bothering about. Can we have RORQUAL IN HIGH SEC PLEASE..... Quoting this. Actually a full blown hi-sec Rorqual is not required, but a hi-sec MINING COMMAND ship is. We have industrials, transports and freighters, another pure hauler (whilst nice) we is nothing new. A ship that has bonuses to mining command links is. JQ none of us are free as long as one of us is chained none of us are free
KAELA MENSHA	Posted - 2008.10.03 11:26:00 - [34] Originally by: Jocca Quinn Edited by: Jocca Quinn on 03/10/2008 10:10:41 Originally by: KAELA MENSHA Originally by: CCP Chronotis The placeholder stats are very much useless and relic from an age where we did not have branched static data. Information will be forthcoming in the near future on the Orca, however I will reiterate what we have said publically before which is that one of its primary roles we are set upon is that it will serve to fill the gap between the industrial and the freighter and have cargo capacity geared towards that. ----------------------------------------------------------- Fine nothing more than a large industrial then . And not worth bothering about. Can we have RORQUAL IN HIGH SEC PLEASE..... Quoting this. Actually a full blown hi-sec Rorqual is not required, but a hi-sec MINING COMMAND ship is. We have industrials, transports and freighters, another pure hauler (whilst nice) we is nothing new. A ship that has bonuses to mining command links is. JQ And if it has mining bonuses, you won't want it to leave belt. so a hauler is useless
Clansworth Burning Sky Labs	Posted - 2008.10.03 11:34:00 - [35] Edited by: Clansworth on 03/10/2008 11:34:42 Originally by: KAELA MENSHA And if it has mining bonuses, you won't want it to leave belt. so a hauler is useless Well, if we're talking mini-freighter size (150,000m¦?) it doesn't need to spend its whole time hauling like conventional haulers. It could spend most its time in the belt, providing the bonuses, only leaving momentarily once it is full. Another option that I like, is make it so that when deployed, it allows interfacing with a freighter (much like when the freighter is near a control tower). Basically, it could act as a semi-mobile freighter dock. New Prospector Class
KAELA MENSHA	Posted - 2008.10.03 12:08:00 - [36] Originally by: Clansworth Edited by: Clansworth on 03/10/2008 11:34:42 Originally by: KAELA MENSHA And if it has mining bonuses, you won't want it to leave belt. so a hauler is useless Well, if we're talking mini-freighter size (150,000m¦?) it doesn't need to spend its whole time hauling like conventional haulers. It could spend most its time in the belt, providing the bonuses, only leaving momentarily once it is full. Another option that I like, is make it so that when deployed, it allows interfacing with a freighter (much like when the freighter is near a control tower). Basically, it could act as a semi-mobile freighter dock. I see . You mean like a rorqual
elric gallach	Posted - 2008.10.04 13:27:00 - [37] Why not move the rorqual to high sec
Patri Andari Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.04 14:51:00 - [38] Originally by: elric gallach Why not move the rorqual to high sec This would never work. It is too simple a fix for this delicate issue. In fact it is perfect. Therefore, it can NEVER be done. Shame on you for suggesting such a simple and perfect solution. A fool usually thinks he is a genius
Tergiminius	Posted - 2008.10.04 15:05:00 - [39] Edited by: Tergiminius on 04/10/2008 15:08:28 The logical choice for ccp would be to provide us with a transport ship thats capable of carrying rigged ships possibly with some defensive capabilities.
Revolution Rising Venture Research and Resources	Posted - 2008.10.05 19:26:00 - [40] Originally by: elric gallach Why not move the rorqual to high sec Yeah really... I don't see why it can't use gates just like JF's do. It can't replace them with its' comparatively small load.
Tasko Pal Heron Corporation	Posted - 2008.10.05 22:12:00 - [41] Edited by: Tasko Pal on 05/10/2008 22:17:55 Originally by: Revolution Rising Originally by: elric gallach Why not move the rorqual to high sec Yeah really... I don't see why it can't use gates just like JF's do. It can't replace them with its' comparatively small load. It's a lot less risky to operate in 0.0 and low sec than a JF. You can fully insure it, it's cheaper to buy, and you have a lot of flexibility in modules. I'd fly it instead of a JF, if it could enter high sec. Edit: plus you can run missions in this thing. Its impressive drone bonus means you have good battleship level DPS and 90000 base shield tank (with 6 med slots). Would be best shield tank in high sec by far.
loki gallach	Posted - 2008.10.05 22:51:00 - [42] I just want it to be the focal point of my exploration based mining operations.
Dracutt Amarr	Posted - 2008.10.06 22:37:00 - [43] Originally by: CCP Chronotis The placeholder stats are very much useless and relic from an age where we did not have branched static data. Information will be forthcoming in the near future on the Orca, however I will reiterate what we have said publically before which is that one of its primary roles we are set upon is that it will serve to fill the gap between the industrial and the freighter and have cargo capacity geared towards that. Well, TBH if "all" it is is a hauler/freighter im gonna be pretty upset, even if it can pull in jetcans. If it can give bonus's like a command ship for mining... eh, it will be usefull, but nothing as exciting as i have envisioned and dreamed of, and waited and waited and waited for... I guess, as a friend of mine has said if he plans for it to be crappy then his expectations will be met, and maybe exceeded. without the little people, there would be no big people
KAELA MENSHA	Posted - 2008.10.07 11:50:00 - [44] Originally by: Dracutt Originally by: CCP Chronotis The placeholder stats are very much useless and relic from an age where we did not have branched static data. Information will be forthcoming in the near future on the Orca, however I will reiterate what we have said publically before which is that one of its primary roles we are set upon is that it will serve to fill the gap between the industrial and the freighter and have cargo capacity geared towards that. Well, TBH if "all" it is is a hauler/freighter im gonna be pretty upset, even if it can pull in jetcans. If it can give bonus's like a command ship for mining... eh, it will be usefull, but nothing as exciting as i have envisioned and dreamed of, and waited and waited and waited for... I guess, as a friend of mine has said if he plans for it to be crappy then his expectations will be met, and maybe exceeded. A wise man indeed
Lord Fitz Project Amargosa	Posted - 2008.10.07 14:24:00 - [45] Edited by: Lord Fitz on 07/10/2008 14:25:13 Personally and this doesn't have any basis other than my opinion, I'd still like to see 2 ships. A T1 mini-freighter, for 100-200m, 150k m3-200k m3 of cargo (once expanded). Possibly a ship maint bay to move rigged ships (or some other way to do it)That's about it. A T2 version of this, with mining bonuses like the rorqual, and compression. No clone bay/jump drive/etc. Cost can be more like 1b isk ish eventually (higher initially obviously as the market rushes to build it). It would give another avenue for T2 capital parts. I'm just seeing that if this ship becomes 'the high sec rorqual' then it will either be not good enough at that job, or too cheap for that job, or too expensive for the 'mini-freighter' job.
Elitia	Posted - 2008.10.07 16:36:00 - [46] Originally by: Lord Fitz Edited by: Lord Fitz on 07/10/2008 14:25:13 Personally and this doesn't have any basis other than my opinion, I'd still like to see 2 ships. A T1 mini-freighter, for 100-200m, 150k m3-200k m3 of cargo (once expanded). Possibly a ship maint bay to move rigged ships (or some other way to do it)That's about it. A T2 version of this, with mining bonuses like the rorqual, and compression. No clone bay/jump drive/etc. Cost can be more like 1b isk ish eventually (higher initially obviously as the market rushes to build it). It would give another avenue for T2 capital parts. I'm just seeing that if this ship becomes 'the high sec rorqual' then it will either be not good enough at that job, or too cheap for that job, or too expensive for the 'mini-freighter' job. Quoted for awesomeness.
Kell Braugh	Posted - 2008.10.08 09:22:00 - [47] Originally by: Clansworth Originally by: Smokie McLottapot Orca is another in a long line of things promised by ccp, but never given. Quit wasteing time on this crap and fix the lag. Completely off topic, and irrelevent. Have you experienced any lag in the last week and half? Most have not. CCP have stated already that the Orca will be in the Industry focused patch this winter (Midas). Now go troll elsewhere if you have nothing useful to say. Granted its offtpoic, but I have to ask due to your attitude: Have you left High Sec in the last week? - EFT screen shots are NOT an accurate example of a ship's abilities.
Kalderion Mar	Posted - 2008.10.11 02:59:00 - [48] Originally by: Kell Braugh Originally by: Clansworth Originally by: Smokie McLottapot Orca is another in a long line of things promised by ccp, but never given. Quit wasteing time on this crap and fix the lag. Completely off topic, and irrelevent. Have you experienced any lag in the last week and half? Most have not. CCP have stated already that the Orca will be in the Industry focused patch this winter (Midas). Now go troll elsewhere if you have nothing useful to say. Granted its offtpoic, but I have to ask due to your attitude: Have you left High Sec in the last week? Aha, so this is what a troll looks like, yes they are ugly and smelly, and ask questions that are completely irrelevant to the main post, as long as they manage to irritate someone!!! cant spell "offtopic" either. dumb troll!
Veldya Guristari Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2008.10.11 11:07:00 - [49] So far it looks interesting. Would prefer it if it was based on a new Heavy Industrial Ship skill rather than plunge into the capital ship skills. Unless they plan to make the Orca very expensive then requiring Capital Ship and Capital Industrial Ship skills would add a fair chunk to the flying cost for noobs. Also, put back the scanning bonuses. :P
Cassendra Caldari Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises	Posted - 2008.10.11 15:09:00 - [50] Originally by: Chribba Small hints, final? Unlikely. That ship is identical to te Rorqual in appearance. When will they stop using the same ship, splashing on different stats and paint, and calling it a new ship? Just not extremely exciting imo --------x--------- Cassendra Assassin. Merc. Pirate. Jovian Labs
Rin Taleda	Posted - 2008.10.11 15:57:00 - [51] Originally by: Cassendra That ship is identical to te Rorqual in appearance. When will they stop using the same ship, splashing on different stats and paint, and calling it a new ship? Just not extremely exciting imo Who cares what the stupid ship looks like? The stats are what is important.
Lord Fitz Project Amargosa	Posted - 2008.10.12 02:26:00 - [52] Originally by: Cassendra Originally by: Chribba Small hints, final? Unlikely. That ship is identical to te Rorqual in appearance. When will they stop using the same ship, splashing on different stats and paint, and calling it a new ship? Just not extremely exciting imo The Rorqual was identical in appearance to the Nyx until the week before it went live. The Orca will get a new model, just not until well after the stats have been finalised.
Packlid Galactic Extensive Enterprises	Posted - 2008.10.12 07:26:00 - [53] In my opinion, The need for High Security compression is very little. The mining bonus's that the Rorqual and perhaps the Orka can provide would be of great help. But the most help that a capitol sized ship can provide, especially to large groups of miners, would be the ability to load a freighter at a mining location. The removal of the Corporate hanger as i have seen heremake compression difficult due to the loss of storage space, and make utilizing a freighter for transport impossible. In my opinion without a corp hanger array this ship is practically useless in High security space. *CEO,Galactic Extensive Enterprises*
KAELA MENSHA	Posted - 2008.10.12 15:19:00 - [54] Originally by: Packlid In my opinion, The need for High Security compression is very little. The mining bonus's that the Rorqual and perhaps the Orka can provide would be of great help. But the most help that a capitol sized ship can provide, especially to large groups of miners, would be the ability to load a freighter at a mining location. The removal of the Corporate hanger as i have seen heremake compression difficult due to the loss of storage space, and make utilizing a freighter for transport impossible. In my opinion without a corp hanger array this ship is practically useless in High security space. someone's seen the light
Insane Zane Bulletproof Manufacturing	Posted - 2008.10.14 22:38:00 - [55] For the love of god please change the graphics, with the exception of the aeon that is the uglyiest ship ever
Clansworth Burning Sky Labs	Posted - 2008.10.15 01:29:00 - [56] Originally by: Insane Zane For the love of god please change the graphics, with the exception of the aeon that is the uglyiest ship ever Well, TBH, it's isn't so much a ship, as a mobile industrial complex, and, IMO, should be ugly. Compare it to a mobile drilling rig on earth. Not the most beautiful thing you'll come across. POS Personal Storage
Tasko Pal Heron Corporation	Posted - 2008.10.15 06:00:00 - [57] Originally by: Clansworth Originally by: Insane Zane For the love of god please change the graphics, with the exception of the aeon that is the uglyiest ship ever Well, TBH, it's isn't so much a ship, as a mobile industrial complex, and, IMO, should be ugly. Compare it to a mobile drilling rig on earth. Not the most beautiful thing you'll come across. I seem to be an outlier (eg, I like the look of the domi, probe, and imicus), but I always thought an oil platform looked pretty sexy.
Kalderion Mar	Posted - 2008.10.16 16:34:00 - [58] Originally by: Insane Zane For the love of god please change the graphics, with the exception of the aeon that is the uglyiest ship ever LOL,, true, but i can deal with ugly if its usefull :) We going to get Mining rewards with this expansion too?????? meaning, on regular mining agents, not the ORE ones.. still waiting for that faction Hulk!! (NO IT DOESNT HAVE TO MINE BETTER, just a cool paint job and the Name.)
Bloody Rabbit Jita Miners	Posted - 2008.10.16 19:53:00 - [59] Originally by: Kalderion Mar We going to get Mining rewards with this expansion too?????? meaning, on regular mining agents, not the ORE ones.. still waiting for that faction Hulk!! (NO IT DOESNT HAVE TO MINE BETTER, just a cool paint job and the Name.) Do you have the Ore strip miners? If you take time to code something it needs to be useful so that players use it. If they do make a faction Hulk, then I hope it will have a better tank for 0.0 mining; as is we need deadspace gear to tank the 0.0 belts. Originally by: Shadarle I notice a lot of people who are very bad at playing the market tend to want CCP to step in and remove the competition from the market so they don't continue coming in last place.[/qu
Tinker1947	Posted - 2008.10.16 23:16:00 - [60] Originally by: Bloody Rabbit Originally by: Kalderion Mar We going to get Mining rewards with this expansion too?????? meaning, on regular mining agents, not the ORE ones.. still waiting for that faction Hulk!! (NO IT DOESNT HAVE TO MINE BETTER, just a cool paint job and the Name.) Do you have the Ore strip miners? If you take time to code something it needs to be useful so that players use it. If they do make a faction Hulk, then I hope it will have a better tank for 0.0 mining; as is we need deadspace gear to tank the 0.0 belts. The tank on a Hulk is fine, i have tanking Queen drones no problem, if you take the time to learn the skills to use T2 Modules or spend the isk on Faction gears and set the ship up right, it certainly won't pop at the first sighting of top class rats.....

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