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Jita Dancer
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Posted - 2008.09.28 10:27:00 -
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I've been reading the Orca thread for a long time now. I think it's run its course in terms of the main points of discussion have all been chewed over.
Any chance of a Dev response, puhhhhlease?
(Thanks for your input/we've cancelled it/it's coming this winter/itll be on sisi next tuesday/etc) ??
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shady trader
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Posted - 2008.09.28 16:01:00 -
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I beleive that the Devs have said its coming in Midus the next expantion that is aimed and industery.
Having some more sold information form the devs would be nice.
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KAELA MENSHA
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Posted - 2008.09.28 21:09:00 -
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it is actively being worked on and most definitely not forgotten about, currently we hope to see the orca delivered in the winter expansion which will be a good time for industrialists everywhere .
It is too soon to talk about the orca in depth just yet but we think it will certainly fill the big gap between the industrials and freighters adequately and that is as much as I am prepared to say about its concept as the rest needs to wait until we are further down the pipeline first.
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OldRoadDog
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Posted - 2008.09.28 21:48:00 -
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I appreciate any info on the Orca. Do we have a potential release date on the Winter Expansion? That would help some of us set up our training.
Thank you
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Kobushi
OCForums
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Posted - 2008.09.28 22:18:00 -
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as far as training goes I'll look at getting into a rorqual since it will be a mini industrial capital ship it should have very similar skill requirement on the industrial core and compression...starship command might be different but then again it may not
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2008.09.28 22:33:00 -
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 Originally by: OldRoadDog
I appreciate any info on the Orca. Do we have a potential release date on the Winter Expansion? That would help some of us set up our training.
Thank you
The usual timing for Winter Expansions is just before all the devs go away for the Christmas/New Year break and are thus unable to correct the multitude of bugs it introduces. 
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Dai'Fail Nofain
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Posted - 2008.09.28 23:22:00 -
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bugs... no no they are features ...
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2008.09.29 18:16:00 -
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Deffo one step closer now - Linkage |
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Menthal
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.29 18:54:00 -
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wasn't capital ships skill the skill that was used to deny access to gates?
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Ruv Kaulovesh
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Posted - 2008.09.29 22:01:00 -
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could someone link the thread please, i dont seem to be able to find my way back to it
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2008.09.30 12:56:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Fitz on 30/09/2008 13:01:35
Originally by: Menthal
wasn't capital ships skill the skill that was used to deny access to gates?
Yes, which is why it's not required for jump freighters or freighters, and unless they change how it's done, unlikely to be required for the Orca.
(it may only have the gate denying effect when directly required, so maybe just maybe capital industrial ships skill will mean it's indirectly required., or they might remove it from being required for CIS, as the rorqual requires capital ships directly too. Or we might get a new skill instead, just because they can. :o
I suspect there is still some work to be done on the skills, as they've plain removed just the jump skill for now, I think it will require more consideration.
Given the 'rorqual test' BPO looks very much still in test form, it's a while off. I heard quite a while ago they were designing the model, so it might be the case that was the first thing about it done :p
The Orca test stub was already on the test server before jump freighters were introduced way back then too, so I'm guessing the one step closer bit is because they've changed it a little perhaps :o Otherwise we're still where we were 9 months ago :p |
Shaun Livingstone
iMine Industries
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Posted - 2008.09.30 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
Deffo one step closer now - Linkage
All hail Chribba.
Man, been looking for some info on the Orca. And even if that obviously is unfinished (Orca takes more clone bay thingies than the Rorqual to build? I think not...  ) it's still nice to get some sort of intel  |
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CCP Chronotis
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Posted - 2008.09.30 17:39:00 -
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The placeholder stats are very much useless and relic from an age where we did not have branched static data. Information will be forthcoming in the near future on the Orca, however I will reiterate what we have said publically before which is that one of its primary roles we are set upon is that it will serve to fill the gap between the industrial and the freighter and have cargo capacity geared towards that.
Originally by: Lord Fitz
Originally by: Menthal
wasn't capital ships skill the skill that was used to deny access to gates?
Yes, which is why it's not required for jump freighters or freighters, and unless they change how it's done, unlikely to be required for the Orca.
That is actually not true, we only ever use explicit attributes to govern things like this and a skill check would never make sense :) In this case we have an attribute on any ship which determines if it cannot use stargates.
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Shaun Livingstone
iMine Industries
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Posted - 2008.09.30 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Chronotis
The placeholder stats are very much useless and relic from an age where we did not have branched static data. Information will be forthcoming in the near future on the Orca, however I will reiterate what we have said publically before which is that one of its primary roles we are set upon is that it will serve to fill the gap between the industrial and the freighter and have cargo capacity geared towards that.
Can't wait.
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KAELA MENSHA
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Posted - 2008.09.30 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Chronotis
The placeholder stats are very much useless and relic from an age where we did not have branched static data. Information will be forthcoming in the near future on the Orca, however I will reiterate what we have said publically before which is that one of its primary roles we are set upon is that it will serve to fill the gap between the industrial and the freighter and have cargo capacity geared towards that.
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Fine nothing more than a large industrial then  .
And not worth bothering about.
Can we have RORQUAL IN HIGH SEC PLEASE.....
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IVeige
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Posted - 2008.09.30 18:58:00 -
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ok so dev said 'in a near future'... does that mean its gonna be before 'Soon(tm)'...
getting confused now  
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Bloody Rabbit
Jita Miners
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Posted - 2008.09.30 23:04:00 -
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I just hope I have time to train for it
Originally by: Shadarle
I notice a lot of people who are very bad at playing the market tend to want CCP to step in and remove the competition from the market so they don't continue coming in last place.[/qu |
Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2008.10.01 03:29:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Chronotis
That is actually not true, we only ever use explicit attributes to govern things like this and a skill check would never make sense :) In this case we have an attribute on any ship which determines if it cannot use stargates.
Awesome.
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Karanth
Gallente
Eve's Brothers of Destiny
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.10.01 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Bloody Rabbit
I just hope I have time to train for it
If someone can fly a Rorqual, I'm assuming that the Orca is already easily within reach skill-wise.
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Vigilant
Gallente
Vigilant's Vigilante's
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Posted - 2008.10.01 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: Karanth
Originally by: Bloody Rabbit
I just hope I have time to train for it
If someone can fly a Rorqual, I'm assuming that the Orca is already easily within reach skill-wise.
Its not a cap ship really. Assume less skills than freighter but more than transport. Probably one new expensive skill, seems the way of CCP.
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Lyvanna Kitaen
Minmatar
Noonday Sun Corp
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Posted - 2008.10.01 23:47:00 -
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Edited by: Lyvanna Kitaen on 01/10/2008 23:51:04
Originally by: Bloody Rabbit
I just hope I have time to train for it
You will have a bit of time to train since it will probably take a while for production to get ramped up, if the Roqual was any example. It will probably take some time to get well-researched BPO's and for the price to stabilize.
I hope they don't just seed the BPO's in the ORE stations where the mining barge ones are. But... they probably will.
One of my alts can fly command ships, exhumers and freighters, she is also almost maxed out as a mining foreman. I'm hoping she'll be able to get into an Orca without too much fuss.
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Karanth
Gallente
Eve's Brothers of Destiny
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.10.02 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Vigilant
Originally by: Karanth
Originally by: Bloody Rabbit
I just hope I have time to train for it
If someone can fly a Rorqual, I'm assuming that the Orca is already easily within reach skill-wise.
Its not a cap ship really. Assume less skills than freighter but more than transport. Probably one new expensive skill, seems the way of CCP.
I mean in the way that yeah, a single skill is alone should need, and all other prereqs should be met by then.
Be nice if someone could confirm that or not though.
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Professor Leech
Transmetropolitan
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Posted - 2008.10.02 01:38:00 -
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Originally by: Karanth
I mean in the way that yeah, a single skill is alone should need, and all other prereqs should be met by then.
Be nice if someone could confirm that or not though.
When the midas patch is placed on the test server check out the stats and the skills. HOWEVER, be aware that the skill requirements and stats may change prior to TQ being patched.
Once it's on sisi I would expect that the feedback would be considered and it's not unusual for changes to happen in due course.
Originally by: Crawe DeRaven
this thread is obviously going places
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Smokie McLottapot
Caldari
Keepers Of The Gate
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Posted - 2008.10.02 02:49:00 -
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Orca is another in a long line of things promised by ccp, but never given. Quit wasteing time on this crap and fix the lag.
My Siggy :) Prove it wrong!
Originally by: SirMolle
Strategy
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2008.10.02 06:43:00 -
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Small hints, final? Unlikely.
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Clansworth
Burning Sky Labs
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Posted - 2008.10.02 08:38:00 -
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Originally by: Smokie McLottapot
Orca is another in a long line of things promised by ccp, but never given. Quit wasteing time on this crap and fix the lag.
Completely off topic, and irrelevent. Have you experienced any lag in the last week and half? Most have not. CCP have stated already that the Orca will be in the Industry focused patch this winter (Midas). Now go troll elsewhere if you have nothing useful to say.
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2008.10.02 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
Deffo one step closer now - Linkage
Originally by: CCP Chronotis
The placeholder stats are very much useless and relic from an age where we did not have branched static data
Originally by: Chribba
Small hints, final? Unlikely.
Not really small hints since they were there back when jump freighter were released. If I understand Chronotis right, they have a separate branch now for their test data, so things like these that appear probably 12 months early and totally inaccurate place holders won't appear on Sisi until they're ready for public testing ?
Either way, I don't think that they bear a lot of weight considering their age. Could possibly be similar, but I don't think they're a very reliable crystal ball, considering the ship is likely to have a completely different hull.
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Tergiminius
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Posted - 2008.10.02 10:26:00 -
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If this is to fill the role between the indy and freighter then there's a chance they may go for the transports skill as a base. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2008.10.02 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Fitz
Originally by: Chribba
Deffo one step closer now - Linkage
Originally by: CCP Chronotis
The placeholder stats are very much useless and relic from an age where we did not have branched static data
Originally by: Chribba
Small hints, final? Unlikely.
Not really small hints since they were there back when jump freighter were released. If I understand Chronotis right, they have a separate branch now for their test data, so things like these that appear probably 12 months early and totally inaccurate place holders won't appear on Sisi until they're ready for public testing ?
Either way, I don't think that they bear a lot of weight considering their age. Could possibly be similar, but I don't think they're a very reliable crystal ball, considering the ship is likely to have a completely different hull.
If you compare the stats in my previous link with this image (posted about a month ago) - Linkage - you see clearly that at least the skills and description do have changed, hence why I said one step closer.
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2008.10.02 11:31:00 -
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Sorry, but perhaps that was worth pointing out in the original post, having to play spot the difference on something that still isn't final is a little annoying (especially when the same thing is posted twice, cryptically in the same thread). Especially when Chronotis comes in and tells us we're both wrong anyway (well at least two of us are :o )
And just because someone posted the image a month ago, doesn't necessarily make it only a month old ;)
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