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Omarvelous
Caldari Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.09.29 14:57:00 -
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xXxGoodTrollxXx  |

Seeing EyeDog
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Posted - 2008.09.29 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Omarvelous xXxGoodTrollxXx 
doesn't beat the BEST Troll _____________________
Originally by: Locus Bey Intelligence isn't a prequisite for being a Goon, in fact its a deficit.
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Soporo
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.29 15:21:00 -
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Edited by: Soporo on 29/09/2008 15:22:54
I made the exact same post after returning. I was annoyed also, then I got over it and trained up Cruise.
So we lost long range Torps but gained a short range BS size gank weapon (which we sorely needed) as Torps do more damage now.
Edit: You can still use Torps in missions if you train up for a Golem as it has big Torp range bonuses.
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xXxRavenxXx
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Posted - 2008.09.29 15:40:00 -
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right last thing I'm saying then you can all got back to being your arsey selves btw thanks to the people who had something constructive to say.
Raven Battleship with battleship at lvl 5 so 50% velocity bonus Missile projection lvl 4 so 40% bonus to velocity there Missile bombarment lvl 4 so 40% on flight time Torpedoes lvl 5
range 20, 21 km at a push with standard torps
stanard torp round about 300isk each T2 javelins round about 800isk each with lower damage thrown in free
I could quite easily change over to T2 rails or torps but why spend stupid money on a ratting/mission ship where theres a high chance its gonna get ganked by a gang of fools in interceptors
My argument here has always been about ratting and mission running as that is all torpedoes are good for, some people obviously didn't take the time to read that
Sorry I shall not intrude YOUR forums again with my concerns
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Malcanis
RuffRyders Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.09.29 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: xXxRavenxXx Sorry I shall not intrude YOUR forums again with my concerns
Apology accepted.
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xXxRavenxXx
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Posted - 2008.09.29 15:56:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: xXxRavenxXx Sorry I shall not intrude YOUR forums again with my concerns
Apology accepted.
lol
I have to add this.... lovin the price gouging on cruise missiles ;)
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.09.29 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: xXxRavenxXx Sorry I shall not intrude YOUR forums again with my concerns
Apology accepted.
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ArmyOfMe
Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.09.29 15:59:00 -
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Edited by: ArmyOfMe on 29/09/2008 15:59:37
Originally by: xXxRavenxXx
My argument here has always been about ratting and mission running as that is all torpedoes are good for, some people obviously didn't take the time to read that
If you really think this then you are extremly misinformed, as you get blaster damage at more then blaster range with torps these days please think before posting crap on the forums
Originally by: deadmaus
Because by the time we had calmed Plague down after he heard BoB were back in the vicinity it was too late to do anything
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.29 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: xXxRavenxXx I reactivated my account yesterday after a 5 month break to find ccp have killed my main income tool, torpedoes now have an affective range of about 20km this is a major come down from the 100km as before. Now:
It makes torpedoes totaly useless
It means the 2-3 months people spent training the skills needed was a waste of time
90% of the time torpedoes are used for ratting/missions
It is impossible to hit targets moving away from you at 20km range if they are matching your speed
Those are just some of the problems and its not like they are the preffered choice for pvp encounters for many reasons like being slow and easy to avoid, many pvp ship are T2 crusiers/frigates so the damage to them ain't all that great etc
**What I'm asking for is ccp to re-raise the flight time of torpedoes so a fair compromise can be reached, about a 50km maximum range would be perfect this is still half of what it once was and would make torpedoes useful for ratting and missions again.
If you have been affected this issuse and would like to see it change please comment on this thread with your opinion and if you are for having torpedoe flight times increased**
Thanks
Yeesh so much wrongness in this post... So lets get started.
1)They are not useless, they are now a useable closerange weapon system and they make the raven quite deadly, you need to rephrase this as useless to YOU.
2)Welcome to eve buddy, dont like it leave.
3)No... LOL NO... Used to be maybe, but now its 99.9999999% for pvp.
4)Thats why theres a missile system called cruise.
5)Samething with blasters, and nobody uses those in pvp
6)Them doing over 1000 dps at 20km is quite epic as it is... It dont need a boost.
In closing im not some random amarrian pilot, when they were changed I flew a torp raven in missions, did I complain? Not much, I gave my 2 cents in some threads, and trained for cruise missiles.... So stop your whining.
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SuckySycky5dolla
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Posted - 2008.09.29 16:30:00 -
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I agree with the thread. Ravens are not meant to be fitted with MWD unlike megathrons so getting in range is crazy hard. Ravens in pvp are already hard pressed cause can't fit any EW without sacrificing tank. I think increasing the range to 40km is quiet reasonable considering how slow they travel. |

NeoShocker
Caldari Foundation Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2008.09.29 16:34:00 -
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Edited by: NeoShocker on 29/09/2008 16:35:24
Originally by: xXxRavenxXx ah its good to see eve is still the home ground of the arrogant
And nice to see eve is loaded with people of ignorant. Its made for PvP weapon for the most part now.
Originally by: SuckySycky5dolla I agree with the thread. Ravens are not meant to be fitted with MWD unlike megathrons so getting in range is crazy hard. Ravens in pvp are already hard pressed cause can't fit any EW without sacrificing tank. I think increasing the range to 40km is quiet reasonable considering how slow they travel.
You think Raven isn't the only bs class that uses torps? |

Maximillian Bayonette
White Lion Manufacture and Salvage
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Posted - 2008.09.29 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: SuckySycky5dolla I agree with the thread. Ravens are not meant to be fitted with MWD unlike megathrons so getting in range is crazy hard. Ravens in pvp are already hard pressed cause can't fit any EW without sacrificing tank. I think increasing the range to 40km is quiet reasonable considering how slow they travel.
Did you type this troll post to get this hilarious thread to continue, because if you did, :hifive:
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.29 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: SuckySycky5dolla I agree with the thread. Ravens are not meant to be fitted with MWD unlike megathrons so getting in range is crazy hard. Ravens in pvp are already hard pressed cause can't fit any EW without sacrificing tank. I think increasing the range to 40km is quiet reasonable considering how slow they travel.
Umm well just put a mean buffer tank with a mwd, A friend of mine does it and quite affectively.
On that same note my geddon only has a 20km range with longrange ammo and I dont have a mwd on it.... So whats your problem? |

SuckySycky5dolla
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Posted - 2008.09.29 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: goodby4u
Originally by: SuckySycky5dolla
On that same note my geddon only has a 20km range with longrange ammo quote]
HUH? You using small beams or something? Use pulses and scorch.
Now back to pvp Raven, so u fit WMD, Point and you are down to 4 midslots. You don't even get a chance for Sensor booster, web or cap injector so in that perspective Raven is gimped for pvp. The only workable pvp raven is passive tank with crazy amount of shield and cruise missiles. No tackle or anything. That brings us back to what is the purpose of torps then. Slightly increasing range to 35-40km is not that insane of a request, imho.
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Maximillian Bayonette
White Lion Manufacture and Salvage
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Posted - 2008.09.29 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: SuckySycky5dolla
HUH? You using small beams or something? Use pulses and scorch.
You mean the kind of weapon system that not only uses a load of cap, but also hit for way less damage than torpedoes? Yeah, I can see how they should be as limited in range as torps. It's only fair.
Originally by: SuckySycky5dolla
Now back to pvp Raven, so u fit WMD, Point and you are down to 4 midslots. You don't even get a chance for Sensor booster, web or cap injector so in that perspective Raven is gimped for pvp. The only workable pvp raven is passive tank with crazy amount of shield and cruise missiles. No tackle or anything. That brings us back to what is the purpose of torps then. Slightly increasing range to 35-40km is not that insane of a request, imho.
Seriously, you are trolling, right? I mean, if you aren't you've got to be extremely dumb, so please tell me you are.
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Riga Mortiss
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Posted - 2008.09.29 16:48:00 -
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Edited by: Riga Mortiss on 29/09/2008 16:47:57 xXxI_Bought_This_Character_off_EbayxXx CoH, WoW, AoC exit stage right
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.29 16:50:00 -
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Edited by: goodby4u on 29/09/2008 16:51:25 Edited by: goodby4u on 29/09/2008 16:50:54
Originally by: SuckySycky5dolla
Quote: HUH? You using small beams or something? Use pulses and scorch.
Now back to pvp Raven, so u fit WMD, Point and you are down to 4 midslots. You don't even get a chance for Sensor booster, web or cap injector so in that perspective Raven is gimped for pvp. The only workable pvp raven is passive tank with crazy amount of shield and cruise missiles. No tackle or anything. That brings us back to what is the purpose of torps then. Slightly increasing range to 35-40km is not that insane of a request, imho.
I fit large pulses.... dual pulses actually, and I never engage outside 20-30 because im not stupid .
As for the raven DONT FIT TACKLING MODS.... Theres no point in doing so as caldari is not a solo race, the torp raven is designed to be a high dps, short-medium range, high alpha, boat for gang blasting when using torps.
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Mire Stoude
Cash Money Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.29 16:58:00 -
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Edited by: Mire Stoude on 29/09/2008 16:58:33
Originally by: Aioa
Originally by: xXxRavenxXx about a 50km maximum range would be perfect
Sure thing, as long as my blasters get the same range ;-)
Yes, I want neutron blasters that has a 50km optimal (25 with antimatter) with 20km fall off, pls! kthxbye 
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SuckySycky5dolla
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Posted - 2008.09.29 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Mire Stoude Edited by: Mire Stoude on 29/09/2008 16:58:33
Yes, I want neutron blasters that has a 50km optimal (25 with antimatter) with 20km fall off, pls! kthxbye 
That would make Rokh the best BS in game. |

Riga Mortiss
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Posted - 2008.09.29 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: SuckySycky5dolla
Originally by: Mire Stoude Edited by: Mire Stoude on 29/09/2008 16:58:33
Yes, I want neutron blasters that has a 50km optimal (25 with antimatter) with 20km fall off, pls! kthxbye 
That would make Rokh the best BS in game.
Sweet Baby Jeebus... how I wish that could be true..  |

James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.09.29 17:40:00 -
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Get off my torps. They're borderline overpowered as it is, and I'm loving it. |

Omarvelous
Caldari Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.09.29 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Seeing EyeDog
Originally by: Omarvelous xXxGoodTrollxXx 
doesn't beat the BEST Troll
Jesus Christ - I had no idea that's where that quote came from! I haven't laughed that hard at work in ages.
Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
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Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari Karjala Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.29 18:07:00 -
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faction/long range torps would be still perfectly viable for pve too, however pretty much ALL t2 ammos are pretty much a tad bit too expensive 'bearing, which is a shame. :/
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Rage of Inferno
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Posted - 2008.09.29 18:21:00 -
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For after the coming speednerf id rather that ccps scraps missile range bonuses alltogether. I love the pvpraven, but with the coming changes being able todo 1k dps up to 28km is too much and it doesnt need it.
The raven will be quick and even more agile, so it can get in ragne of its prey - but wont be able to kite other battleships as easy as it looks like it will be atm.
With the Rokh being able to shoot up to 250km and the scorp jamming at 200km the raven isnt the caldaris only choice to put out pain in fleetbattles.
And use damn cruise missiles for pve ;) -
Boosters and PirateProfessions
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Synapse Archae
Amarr Demonic Retribution G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.09.29 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Jana Clant
Originally by: Intense Thinker I want an espresso machine in my pod!
And a pony!
And some f888ing ice-cream! |

Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.09.29 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Aioa
Originally by: xXxRavenxXx about a 50km maximum range would be perfect
Sure thing, as long as my blasters get the same range ;-)
I think to maintain the range balance, base range on mega pulse lasers with multifrequency would be around 200km.
I approve of this change  __________________________________
Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
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xXxRavenxXx
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Posted - 2008.09.29 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Riga Mortiss Edited by: Riga Mortiss on 29/09/2008 16:47:57 xXxI_Bought_This_Character_off_EbayxXx CoH, WoW, AoC exit stage right
I seriously hope you ain't talkin about me cause I can assure you I've had this char for over 2 years now and I was the person who created it so eff right off |

Lubomir Penev
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Posted - 2008.09.29 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: xXxRavenxXx 20km with good skills and a ship that gives bonuses to flight time and velocity is a joke
I assume that your ship is a Raven and if you only get 20km then the joke is your skills... |

Diana Fyre
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Posted - 2008.09.29 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: xXxRavenxXx
Originally by: Riga Mortiss Edited by: Riga Mortiss on 29/09/2008 16:47:57 xXxI_Bought_This_Character_off_EbayxXx CoH, WoW, AoC exit stage right
I seriously hope you ain't talkin about me cause I can assure you I've had this char for over 2 years now and I was the person who created it so eff right off
Was putting xXx before and after your name as awesome then as it is now?
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.09.30 01:21:00 -
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Originally by: Diana Fyre Was putting xXx before and after your name as awesome then as it is now?
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