You do realize that CCP always has that "we can ban you at any time for any reason or no reason at all" thing for them to fall back on, right? So CCP can decide to ban you based on the "spirit of the law" and you won't be able to use some sort of technicality to force CCP to not ban you.

We adjusted the wording slightly to make it less ambiguous. See the full text here:

http://community.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=4972&tid=1

I also have to restate that we value the spirit of the law over the letter of the law. Also avoiding CONCORD in any way is simply not allowed, attempts to find loopholes in the wording will not fly.

We adjusted the wording slightly to make it less ambiguous. See the full text here:

http://community.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=4972&tid=1

I also have to restate that we value the spirit of the law over the letter of the law. Also avoiding CONCORD in any way is simply not allowed, attempts to find loopholes in the wording will not fly.

GÇÿIf you gain a Global Criminal Countdown by committing an illegal action in high security space, it is considered an exploit to attack a target after you warp away from the grid where you gained that GCC, even if you later return to that grid while still affected by that GCC.

This is incorrect, we act on the spirit of the law, not the letter of the law. Tread that line at your own risk.

Ok. I've read the link. Here's a copypasta of the relevant section:




Riddle me this:

Bob kills a mackinaw at an ice belt. Concord arrives. Bob warps to a point 150k away on the same grid. He is still on grid, concord is still on grid, he never left grid. Concord moves to intercept him, on grid. He warps to another on-grid bounce, because his ship has inertial stabs to align fast. He warps (still on the same grid) to another mackinaw, and pops it. Repeat. Bob has been on grid the entire time.

In this way, in a .5 or .6 system, it is possible to kill many mackinaws without leaving grid before finally succumbing to concord.

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say this violates the "spirit of the law". Perhaps you should change the law as follows:

After obtaining GCC and killing someone, it is mandatory for a player to offline all modules, bring their ship to a complete stop, and assume the position.

I think this would get rid of any and all ambiguity.

Edit: The above requires no special 'gridfoo', it only requires the grid to be greater than 150k. Most icebelts have grid larger than 300k.

A ruling on this, but no ruling on the Orca unfit trick that goes hand in hand with it?
This is a clever way of slightly increasing damage whilst not avoiding penalty.

The Orca trick lets you reduce the ISK penalty to near nothing, and even lets gankers fit faction modules to a gank-ship.

Please fix that loophole, or at least declare it an exploit, ASAP.

This means specific indicidents can be arbitrarily acted upon by different GMs. This is Not Good.

Keep crying.. Maybe if you yell and stomp your feet loud enough CCP might listen to you.

You can't remove the ability to access fitting services when in combat because that affects more then hi-sec. It would affect low-sec and nul where people use fitting services in combat all the time. And making it an exploit ruins those tactics. Get out of your little safe world and HTFU.

This is incorrect, we act on the spirit of the law, not the letter of the law. Tread that line at your own risk.

I also have to restate that we value the spirit of the law over the letter of the law.

(1) Example: in the past people have been punished for dropping decloak cans on gates and in bubbles. Only quite recently, within the last year or so, has dropping large amount of cans on a gate for purposes of decloak been effectively 'legalized'

(2)Example: Rapecageing supers in a pos by deploying tons of bubbles to cover every escape routes was also punishable at one point. It is not any longer.

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2. OR you can set up the rules so strictly and in such a limiting manner that emergent behavior and any form of innovation becomes completely impossible. We could easily fix this by simply making it impossible to attack anyone in high sec ever, no exceptions. This is a situation no one wants.

In other words, making judgement calls will always be part of running a sandbox game. Making sure that a GM is capable of doing this properly is a very important part of our hiring, training and auditing process. This is also why escalation of a support ticket is always a possibility (from non-senior to senior) and why peer review is a very important part of our operating procedures.

Which "spirit of the law" was applicable in both of these?

Back in my days at T-Mobile, that's what we called an 'unauthorized workaround'; if you used one of those, you could kiss your employment goodbye.

Gaming the system is not worth it, Prior.

I give it six months before our esteemed GM team tells us that ganking in HS is considered an exploit because it's mean and makes people sad.

At one point, spamming cans for decloak on a gate (for example) was pretty much universally frowned upon by all gm's and action was taken against it (offenders would be punished, the cans removed, any ships killed by this would be replaced if you petitioned). Then, the "spirit of the law" changed (within the last year) and now this behavior is considered legit. My point was that the "spirit of the law" changes on a regular basis in eve.

I also have to restate that we value the spirit of the law over the letter of the law.

@GM or Devs

Any reason why you cant just make CONCORD act faster and harder?
I mean its a game, its not real, you control those metrics and the code behind it

Not empty quoting...

Because there has to be a balance to it. Why would concord act instantly in a 0.5 system, effectively making it a 1.0?

I don't think people PvEing would be happy about mission payouts and asteroid spawns would be the same as in 1.0 in all high sec systems.

The best way to solve these exploits that I have heard of so far is the insta scram and fixed delay depending on system security for the death ray.