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Peter Armstrong
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.24 20:09:00 -
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man the fourm acting weird! i trying to make comment but it keep asking me sure u want to log out? i mean whats going on here
Bah i forgot what i was going to say now :( 
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Meridius
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.24 21:11:00 -
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Lasers 4tw
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Ralus
eXceed Inc.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.07.24 22:00:00 -
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I tried to find the new scientist article that discusses some of the new wave weaponary thats been attempted (and mostly discarded) by darpa and some of the were scary (an a little amusing too).
For instance the *** Bomb was designed as a moral killer and chemical weapon by stimulating homosexual urges in solders who are exposed to it (and totally true too)
There was the hyper kinetic orbital weapon thingy that was designed to be a satilite that dropped meter long tungstan rods out of orbit on a target, theory being that once they reached there target on the ground they would be traveling with such speed that impact would be like a small nuclear weapon detonating, just no fallout.
Various plasma based weapons that work either by generating a concussive presure wave on impact or ionise the air enough for high voltage discharge (those knows as so called "air tasers")
...And of course good old fashioned lasers, If they ever manage to get real working atom lasers they would make hugely powerfull weapons too, imagine a cross between a railgun and a laser, (sometimes known in fiction as particle lances or particle cannons  )
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FooB2
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.24 22:35:00 -
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Daniel Jackson is the most formidable weapon ive come across. a single sound from his mouth can cause instant brain-damage to its listeners.
(19:45:57) ([GM]Eldini) HI, I AM GM ELDINI AND I AM A FAN OF STAVROS |
hired goon
Fate.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.24 23:18:00 -
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Has anyone else heard of that awesome one where they make the air conductive with a laser, then put electricity down it.
BLAM! Lightning gun!
-omg-
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LoxyRider
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.07.24 23:40:00 -
[66]
wtf is wrong with bullets :|
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Scoundrelus
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2006.07.25 00:25:00 -
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Edited by: Scoundrelus on 25/07/2006 00:25:16
w00t! New and improved ways of killing people!
Just what this world needs. Thank you USA for not curing Cancer and making more weapons. Set your priorities straight.
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Benco97
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 00:36:00 -
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I built my own gauss rifle from a long peice of wood, several magnets and a lot of ballbearings, it was quite fun.
After it broke (sat on it) I built a small hydrogen generator to fuel a cannon... it was a resounding failure as it explodied when I lit the hydrogen/oxygen mix i'd fueled it with... however.. I did come away knowing that I can at least make hydrogen.
Hooray.
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Border201
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 01:32:00 -
[69]
 Originally by: Kasak Black
That sonic guns sounds a little too sci-fi for me, probally could be done however! Which is the scariest part...
Well there are labs that test the effects of sound pollution on buildings by subjecting building materails to extream Dbs of sound. This sound is so loud that it can cause human organs to rupture. Now the only issue is to figure out how to make it be directional at the same intensity and presto you have a sonic gun.
Originally by: Tuxford
once tried to kick my brother when I had my pants around my ankle. Probably not my brightest moments.
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nahtoh
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 02:23:00 -
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Hehehehe saw a program years ago about reseachinto non lethal wepons in development...
The 2 that stuck with me were the anti paratrooper one, basicly a net of some kind fired to entangle the chute on its down (Hmmm how non-leathal is making a para with all of his equipment meet the ground at speed).
And a laser to blind helecopter pilots, causing the pilot to crash the aircraft (like thats not going to cause bad things to happen to crew and passengers).
They had something about sonic based weapons as well...
Their justifcation for them being classed as non-lethal weapons? They did not actually kill when fired, the death is caused by other effects (going splat when hitting the ground or crashing a aircraft).
I did laugh my ass off as this was explained...
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Jacxx
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Posted - 2006.07.25 03:55:00 -
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Heh, Electromagnetic weapons is my specialty, I build them in my spare time. Infact I went to ISEF a few months ago with my coilgun (ISEF= International science and engineering fair).
Anyway, There is a whole bunch of incorrect information in this thread. Ill just go and clear it up.
RAILGUN= An EM gun that uses the lorentz force for firing, consists of 2 parrelell rails, usually made of copper. Projectile is placed between them and accelerated by energizing rails. In most all civilian attempts this causes the bullet to be incinerated and turned to plasma. Real world use as a delivery system for anything other then solid slugs is pretty much impossible, or so I understand.
GAUSS GUN= Uses a line of fixed magnets and ball bearings to transfer and increase inertia of another ballbearing. bigger applications of this aren't really plausible.
COILGUN (MASS DRIVER)= Uses solenoids (Hollow electromagnets) to accelerate a ferromagnetic object. These are fairly easy to build and boast MUCH higher efficienys then railguns, up above 2 and 3%. Railguns are typically sub 1%.These are what I build, and to my knowledge are what the military actually is planning on using. Since they don't put energy directly through the projectile it can be used for explosives as long as they have a ferromagnetic shell. Also, one of the navy guys at ISEF was telling me about the one they are working on, he made no mentions of railguns.
That site, information unlimited, is a source of ridicule for people "In the know" as it were. Alot of their plans and devices are complete bull-crap. Seriously, don't buy things from them.
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Groes Thir
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 06:52:00 -
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Edited by: Groes Thir on 25/07/2006 06:53:52
/me wraps on leadfoil around his head
USA is already using nerf-laser weapons for "crow control" in Iraq, according to this
Tinfoilage Article
That is some nasty stuff ey? Science is fun!
/me unwraps his head
The goverment is reading my toughts..
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Kata Dakini
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Posted - 2006.07.25 10:41:00 -
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This is pretty fascinating and all, but why can't they just take this theory and develop a propulsion system that runs on magnetics? Fossil Fuels ftl. Perpetual motion engines FTW!
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Antoinette Civari
Black Omega Security
E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.07.25 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: Kata Dakini
This is pretty fascinating and all, but why can't they just take this theory and develop a propulsion system that runs on magnetics?
You mean like .. an electric motor? 
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hired goon
Fate.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.25 12:50:00 -
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Edited by: hired goon on 25/07/2006 12:50:32
Nah, he means a huge railgun you launch your car from.
-omg-
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Velsharoon
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 13:19:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Scoundrelus
Edited by: Scoundrelus on 25/07/2006 00:25:16
w00t! New and improved ways of killing people!
Just what this world needs. Thank you USA for not curing Cancer and making more weapons. Set your priorities straight.
Yep its a shame, especially when they allready dominate militarily. Such a waste
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Kata Dakini
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Posted - 2006.07.25 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Antoinette Civari
Originally by: Kata Dakini
This is pretty fascinating and all, but why can't they just take this theory and develop a propulsion system that runs on magnetics?
You mean like .. an electric motor?
I know it was only a couple lines, but read the last part... Perpetual propulsion being the key phrase. I mean like .. a motor that powers itself through perpetual motion.
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 15:13:00 -
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You can't have perpetual motion.
Oh and LOL at thread necromancy 
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Rubra
J. S. Bach In memoriam
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Posted - 2006.07.25 16:31:00 -
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What the hell is with the necro bump? Seems not many noticed...
I caught on when I saw Morlock's post. Way cool topic admittingly.
Railguns ftw! Hope the U.S. uses Spike ammo.
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Border201
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: ReaperOfSly
You can't have perpetual motion.
Oh and LOL at thread necromancy
ARGG!!! I posted in a necro thread!!! AHH I posted again!!!
Originally by: Tuxford
once tried to kick my brother when I had my pants around my ankle. Probably not my brightest moments.
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Reiisha
Frontier Technologies
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:37:00 -
[81]
holy thread resurrection.
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Cortana Raven
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kata Dakini
This is pretty fascinating and all, but why can't they just take this theory and develop a propulsion system that runs on magnetics? Fossil Fuels ftl. Perpetual motion engines FTW!
They have those, they're called magnetoplasmadynamic drives. The concept has been around for a few decades now, and recently prototypes were tested on satellites. Unfortunately, they require more power than our spacecraft are capable of generating with current technology.
IIRC Caldari ships ingame have engines based on this principle.
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Sgt Hans
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Posted - 2006.07.25 22:13:00 -
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Edited by: Sgt Hans on 25/07/2006 22:18:30
Another really good site on Electric Guns metalstorm. Check the video section out, last time I downloaded from there, the 36 Barrel Prototype was test fired at 1 million rpm.
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Boonaki
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.26 10:02:00 -
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They're supposed to be mounting a large railgun on a battleship. It can sit in San Diego and shell Iraq.
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Corovus
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.26 12:49:00 -
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Alot of work has already gone into sonic weaponry. Low frequencies seems "useful" as they can resonate with human body cavitities. Frequencies around 22 Hz can cause nausia and involuntary bowel movements. Your enemy can't really fire back at you whilst vomiting and/or crapping his pants.
Projected sound is a newer one, where a tightly focused beam of sound can be used to disrupt the target, whilst no-one else is affected.
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Zyck
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.26 14:38:00 -
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Edited by: Zyck on 26/07/2006 14:40:37
Edited by: Zyck on 26/07/2006 14:39:03
Originally by: Scoundrelus
Edited by: Scoundrelus on 25/07/2006 00:25:16
w00t! New and improved ways of killing people!
Just what this world needs. Thank you USA for not curing Cancer and making more weapons. Set your priorities straight.
This is why we come up with new ways of killing people. I have no problem with Russia selling weapons, but they really could pick better buyers than crazy dictators and fanatics. (They also sell weapons to Iran among others).
As for the Cancer, if you read Popular Science, the latest issue shows that Cancer *should* be all but trivial in about 10 years. And yes, the US is doing that too. Oh...and with that, HIV may have a cure. Plus they're making a universal flu vaccine type thing, and creating ways to regenerate both brain and spinal tissue and repair damage to the nervous system. This also eliminates Alzheimers and Parkinsons among others, plus it means being able to heal injuries that used to be permanent. All of this is less than 20 years away, some of it as close as 10.
And whether you like it or not, let's face it. It's better the US develops these weapons first, because if not us, someone else will, and it very well could be someone a lot more crazy than the US is currently.
On a side note...why should we have to cure cancer? There are plenty of other countries out there that do medical research. Don't get me wrong, I think we should, but I don't see why the burden has to be on us- you make it sound like the US is the only country capable of doing it.
-Zyck
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Ominus Decre
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.26 15:24:00 -
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On a bus ride back from Nevada I recall a man named **** (not Feynman) who was coming back from his duties at Lake Tonapah. He expressed the peak of rocket technology that had been reached in the late 70's, the technology to fabricate the SR-71 prior to the resrouces being created, and electro magnetic propulsion. He was an active test pilot of over 20 years.
**** proceeded to discuss "lost" or "burried" technologies which are developed then never seen by the public. Under most circumstances military technology is 30 years ahead of what we get to see.
I was more curious about the power supply, or theory of such, that would be utilized for an electromagnetic propulsion system although he obviously began to selectivly choose his words when discussing this.
Now, you're probally wondering, as I was, what a test pilot for top secrect US military installations is doing riding "Greyhound" when a commuter flight would have taken him 45-60 minutes. His responce? "I don't like to fly." 
Cool guy and I regret only having 3 hours to discuss technological advances with him. Being that most of the dicussion would sound as science fiction he expressed a found enjoyment from a book titled "Flight of the Old Dog". It was a far cry from what i was reading that initially caught his attention that led to our conversation. ;)
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Mallory Reynolds
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Posted - 2006.07.26 16:29:00 -
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They do seem to have one other ammo choice we don't have...
Linkage - coming soon to Alton Towers...
...DARPA are officially weird.
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Krandor87
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Posted - 2006.07.26 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Mallory Reynolds
They do seem to have one other ammo choice we don't have...
Its is totaly possibe to launch a projectile of the cailaber on to the top of a building. So long as the projectile reaches 0 velocity at the top of the building. Thus eliminating a long fall but instead only a few feet this also would make the risk factor of bodily harm lower. Yet you wont find me in one of those things. |
Arron S
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.26 18:58:00 -
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Edited by: Arron S on 26/07/2006 19:01:44
Does'nt the US Military say they are going to deploy somthing by XXXX date, and when that time comes, they end up going for somthing else. or the project gets canned. Remember that stealth Attack Helicopter and the XM8(Usless G-36C varient)
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