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Canis Trucido
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Posted - 2008.10.09 18:25:00 -
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lets all start training it right now!
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Burn Mac
Minmatar The Tuskers
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Posted - 2008.10.09 18:33:00 -
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Raven!
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar 17th Minmatar Tactical Wing
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Posted - 2008.10.09 18:33:00 -
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Falcon. It all ready is anyway.
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.10.09 18:34:00 -
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Falcon. Is and will be even more so after speed nerf. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
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Posted - 2008.10.09 18:34:00 -
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It's hard to say: + Laser Ships, due primarily to near blaster damage at extreme range + Missile Ships, due to HAMs and Torps [Possibly balanced by new missile formula] + AFs, due to scram boost and web nerf + Falcon, but I expect this to be horribly nerfed shortly - Blasters, due primarily to speed, agility, mass, web nerfs - ACs, due primarily to speed, agility, mass, web nerfs
Really, considering the huge nerfs headed down the pipe towards Gallente and Minmatar, whatever the next "pwnship" will be almost certainly has to be Amarr or Caldari... and with the missile changes it's very likely to be Amarr.
I can't say for sure though... :)
-Liang --
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Burn Mac
Minmatar The Tuskers
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Posted - 2008.10.09 18:36:00 -
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Edited by: Burn Mac on 09/10/2008 18:35:59
Originally by: Megan Maynard Falcon. It all ready is anyway.
Fail he is asking for the next, Falcon is the current.
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Khraunus
Amarr Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.10.09 18:36:00 -
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2.5 mil SP drake
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jerrard iceni
Arcana Imperii Ltd. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.09 18:39:00 -
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In no particular order... falcon,raven & arazu.
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar 17th Minmatar Tactical Wing
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Posted - 2008.10.09 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Burn Mac Edited by: Burn Mac on 09/10/2008 18:35:59
Originally by: Megan Maynard Falcon. It all ready is anyway.
Fail he is asking for the next, Falcon is the current.
My bad.
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RedSplat
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Posted - 2008.10.09 18:51:00 -
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HAM Drakes for everyone!
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Donna Divine
Gilded Goose Brokerage
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Posted - 2008.10.09 18:56:00 -
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Missile spammers and anything with pulses.
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Gilded Goose Brokerages Trading to order. |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.10.09 18:57:00 -
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Zealot. With everyone copying my fits. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
CrayC
Gallente CrayC Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.09 19:10:00 -
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Ibis
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Aleus Stygian
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Posted - 2008.10.09 19:11:00 -
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Originally by: Khraunus 2.5 mil SP drake
Originally by: RedSplat HAM Drakes for everyone!
Drake: "Hello! I am your everyday friendly missile-spewing coffee table. Please allow me to utterly ruin your day as you fly a HAC or Recon three times more expensive than me and requiring of four months more training to be effective. You don't have to thank me. I'll just sit and laugh as I tank you out and bust your expensive drones while sneering at the fact that there are no viable counters to missiles.'
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JVol
Amarr The IMorral MAjority Imorral Dragons
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Posted - 2008.10.09 19:15:00 -
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Arazu will find new life, but I dont think ANY ship will be OVERpowerd.
Falcs do their ONE job as well as any ship that has ONE job.
It's going to be intresting to see how pvp'rs ( real pvp'rs ) respond to the nano balance..
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Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
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Posted - 2008.10.09 19:23:00 -
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Falcons are Meh.
Personally Id rather the Enemy field Falcons than Curses. At least a falcon can't shutdown my tank.
Curse + TD + ECM drones = Awesome in gangs. __________________________________________________________
Originally by: Liang Nuren wrong forum isroy i am vjery drunm
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.10.09 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Last Wolf Falcons are Meh.
Personally Id rather the Enemy field Falcons than Curses. At least a falcon can't shutdown my tank.
Curse + TD + ECM drones = Awesome in gangs.
Yeah when you are ganking targets. When the opposing side as equal amounts of ships your curse will end up dead in seconds. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
slothe
Caldari Murky Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.09 19:56:00 -
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black ops + fuel bay + stealth bombers + bombs
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
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Posted - 2008.10.09 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: slothe
black ops + fuel bay + stealth bombers + bombs
Not unless they boost the hell out of bombs....
-Liang --
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Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2008.10.09 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren - ACs, due primarily to speed, agility, mass, web nerfs
Why ? They got good falloff range anyways, no ?
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Aleus Stygian
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Posted - 2008.10.09 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
Originally by: Last Wolf Falcons are Meh.
Personally Id rather the Enemy field Falcons than Curses. At least a falcon can't shutdown my tank.
Curse + TD + ECM drones = Awesome in gangs.
Yeah when you are ganking targets. When the opposing side as equal amounts of ships your curse will end up dead in seconds.
Also, the Curse does not pop out of precisely nowhere, making it far less useful for alt warfare and baiting. Not to mention its range is a fraction of the Falcon's...
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Traidor Disloyal
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.10.09 20:05:00 -
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Has long has I haves me Reaper I will be uber!
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arbalesttom
Caldari Glauxian Brothers
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Posted - 2008.10.09 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Trevor Warps
Originally by: Liang Nuren - ACs, due primarily to speed, agility, mass, web nerfs
Why ? They got good falloff range anyways, no ?
And there capless
Obvious troll is obvious, Trevor ***Sig***
Originally by: Cpt Branko That is a JoJo, a forum troll used by Amarr whiners.
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Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2008.10.09 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: arbalesttom
Originally by: Trevor Warps
Originally by: Liang Nuren - ACs, due primarily to speed, agility, mass, web nerfs
Why ? They got good falloff range anyways, no ?
And there capless
Obvious troll is obvious, Trevor
Heh ...
No.
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
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Posted - 2008.10.09 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Trevor Warps
Originally by: Liang Nuren - ACs, due primarily to speed, agility, mass, web nerfs
Why ? They got good falloff range anyways, no ?
Falloff affects both hit quantity and hit quality. I mean, if you like *guaranteeing* that you're going to do at most 38% of your (already low) EFT damage, sure, you can run ACs. OTOH, I'd rather be doing 100-103% of my EFT damage at the same range by using lasers.
Falloff merely means that they can hit - not that they hit well.
-Liang --
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Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2008.10.09 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Falloff affects both hit quantity and hit quality. I mean, if you like *guaranteeing* that you're going to do at most 38% of your (already low) EFT damage, sure, you can run ACs. OTOH, I'd rather be doing 100-103% of my EFT damage at the same range by using lasers.
Falloff merely means that they can hit - not that they hit well.
Sure, but I mean, thats nothing new. Alot of AC boat are already fighting outside web range on TQ. I don't see how the patch will be a negative point for ACs. If anything they will have less tracking problem and up a bit their average damage.
I agree on the rest of the list, tho.
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
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Posted - 2008.10.09 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Trevor Warps Sure, but I mean, thats nothing new. Alot of AC boat are already fighting outside web range on TQ. I don't see how the patch will be a negative point for ACs. If anything they will have less tracking problem and up a bit their average damage.
I agree on the rest of the list, tho.
Well, there are two lines of thought with ACs: get in close, dual web, and melt face with RF EMP/Hail or poke around the edges of their range with Barrage and hope to eventually run them out of cap boosters/hitpoints.
THe first one takes a *dramatic* hit since hail won't even be feasible with dual webs anymore, and the second takes a fairly impressive hit from the agility changes.
I did try these on the test server, and that's the impression that I gained from them. Of course, blasters have it far worse. :-/
-Liang --
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Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2008.10.09 21:25:00 -
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Hmmm, right.
I never use Hail tho, i use blaster ships instead, lol.
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
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Posted - 2008.10.09 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: Trevor Warps Hmmm, right.
I never use Hail tho, i use blaster ships instead, lol.
Hail's ok, but it's really nothing special. I figure most of the time I have it loaded that I should have been using RF EMP... maybe more. The range penalties are freaking brutal, especially just to gain a base parity on ammo damage.
And I'd use a blaster ship too, but I really prefer my Raven and Domi these days. :)
-Liang --
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Azuse
Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests Pure.
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Posted - 2008.10.09 21:34:00 -
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/me applys another coat of wax to Zealot & Sacrilege. -------------------------
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