Do you really think they manually looked at alliances/corps/chars? I'm pretty sure they ran some DB script looking for suspicious transfers, which are pretty hard to define, and then just removed all the isk said script flagged / banned flagged accounts.

Yet.......................

PAN

CCP Sreegs you need to show a similar Goonswarm RMT sweep before people start thinking you are pulling a T20.

The evil EvE playerbase will obviously suspect that as former GS leader you would rush in help of GS now that they are in difficulty due to the Fanfest incident and PL could take advantage.

Creaming the GS enemies right after Mittani's ban without a similar mirror operation on GS WILL be seen as Developer involvement in game.

I think it should be obvious that a Char doing ship reimbursement from his own wallet for a 1000+ pilot alliance might look alot like an RMT'er, e.g. both give large amounts of isk to lots of people for no apparent reason.

Especially to some script crawling the DB.

Ofc PL could also have accepted large amounts of RMT'ed isk for their contracts with certain alliances.

I'd however be slow with pointing fingers, I'm pretty sure CCP's program has some major flaws in it.

rumor says elusif got hit

if that is true expect a lot of CFC members to have negative wallets.

rumor says elusif got hit

if that is true expect a lot of CFC members to have negative wallets.

You might well be right but I would have thought that *someone* within CCP took a look at this *before* a final decision to take the ISK from PL was made.

We would hope at any rate.

PAN

Hmm, just out of interest how come everyone is assuming it was related to buying ISK? I would have thought PL would be more likely to be involved in selling it?

I'd sure hope that as well, but judging by the sheer amount of transactions and chars involved I'm not certain.

Also they might just blindly remove/ban in the first cycle, then look at all the petitions etc and use that experience to tweak their scripts, then start again.

EDIT: There seems to be a misconception here that they took 15t or so from an alliance wallet. In fact that number seems to have been reached by looking at ALL the chars in PL and how much isk they lost. So this is over hundreds of chars, and not some single wallet.

Could be that PL received rent payments from botters who were RMTing.

Kinda blows the who "this is a mistake" out of the water. Also, if the CCP auto destroyer was going to go after a alliance based simply on isk exchanges I would have thought the goons would have been top of that list if it were true.

A. They did not go "after an alliance". They took isk from a large amount of chars, and banned the source. Don't see how this "blows the mistake out of the water".

B. "simply on isk exchanges" How do you suppose they identify RMT'ers if not by their isk transfer patterns?

C. Who said other alliances did not have this occuring / use the same centralized structure.

A few inderviduals wallets in CFC have gone negetive. The general responce in the CFC is "AHAHAHAHAHA"

If CCP simply went after the master wallet because it was spamming out a lot of isk why then did the master wallet of the largest ship replacement fund not get hit first?

Because one was done over a char's wallet and the other is a corp wallet? Honestly I have no idea, but how likely is it that CCP wrote something that worked perfectly from the beginning (or ever will)

I have to admit its **** funny watching how many people are shitting them lols..

Just spent the last 10 minutes scouting various forums and panic is well.. delicious .

Please share the fun with us

Too many posts on too many sites however the funniest has to be on reddit

Test is rounding up a list of people who got negged as the API updates and is planning to release it so we can laugh at the RMTers

Test is rounding up a list of people who got negged as the API updates and is planning to release it so we can laugh at the RMTers

You mean they're outting their useless RMT accounts that have negative wallet balances so large as to make keeping them pointless. Yes, I can see how this might be construed as legit attempts to distance themselves from supposedly unknown RMT'ers.

On the other hand, characters with such large balances don't get those balances by being quiet or by not making a business out the game. So, Test's sincerity in this matter is dubious at best.

You know....when a character has a negative balance smaller than say 10b or less, one might assume he bought RMT isk or traded or what not completely on his own. When those balances start hitting the negative 10's of billions of isk, something more is going on and there's not much you can do to convince me it isn't systemic rather than individually.

The actions of yesterday were RMT related. I won't discuss specifics or confirm or deny who may have been impacted or how.