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Benedic The Aftermath	Posted - 2008.11.03 13:58:00 - [5311] Edited by: Benedic on 03/11/2008 13:58:25 Originally by: Kersal I can't help but feel that if everyone in this thread that's threatening to leave actually does so then the Eve universe is going to become a lot less crowded. Their will be less competition for materials, less competition in the market place, and who knows what will happen to alliance held 0.0 space if swathes of members quit the game. I have my doubts about active players quitting completely. If the game was fun to play ghost training wouldn't really be an issue for those people (although they may drop some alt accounts). The large portion of accounts lost will be jaded vets, 3rd or 4th+ alt accounts, and people who were looking for an excuse to ragequit. While these will be significant numbers (and really hurt CCCP's bottomline), it will most likely not have much of an impact on the number of people online at a given time. We will see how well the decision to push people who pay to not play this game away works out.
Grez Minmatar Core Contingency	Posted - 2008.11.03 14:39:00 - [5312] How exactly is CCP **ting on the customer? If anything, we've had this freebie for 4 years now. We should thank them for giving it to us for that long. So what if it was called a feature - they want to change it and they have. You cannot blame them for wanting to make a bit more cash in this financially ** time we're in. Grow up. --- Have a rawr on me.
Richard Aiel Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.11.03 14:42:00 - [5313] Originally by: Kersal I can't help but feel that if everyone in this thread that's threatening to leave actually does so then the Eve universe is going to become a lot less crowded. Their will be less competition for materials, less competition in the market place, and who knows what will happen to alliance held 0.0 space if swathes of members quit the game. On the up side their will be less competition for materials, less competition in the market place and 0.0 blobs will be smaller helping to reduce lag. See the is a silver lining. I pointed this out some several pages back that maybe CCP forcing ppl out of the game by being ass-hats is how theyve decided to deal with the problem of lag ------------------------------------------------ CCP you are your own worst enemy. ------------------------------------------------
Richard Aiel Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.11.03 14:44:00 - [5314] Originally by: Grez How exactly is CCP **ting on the customer? If anything, we've had this freebie for 4 years now. We should thank them for giving it to us for that long. So what if it was called a feature - they want to change it and they have. You cannot blame them for wanting to make a bit more cash in this financially time we're in. Grow up. reading comprehension ftl its not necessarily the removal of the "bug" that ed everyone off. That was the icing. It was the LYING that **ed everyone off. ------------------------------------------------ CCP you are your own worst enemy. ------------------------------------------------
Ostr0mir Minmatar Never Knows Best	Posted - 2008.11.03 14:53:00 - [5315] - 2 accounts here, and this main one will be paid via ISK only until it expires. I am sick and tired of you, your lies and greed, CCP, tired of my MMORPG addiction and tired of useless people flying around. I feel very sorry for my wasted year with you. Hope you will not have a chance to learn from this lesson your customers have taught you, because you'll be going bankrupt as the world economic crisis unfolds and your playerbase will be cutting it's expenses down. BYE!
sxndy Gallente	Posted - 2008.11.03 15:16:00 - [5316] I smell bull****. Truth I can deal with and accepted, but blatantly lying by calling something a bug when it was proclamed as a feature does not give me confidence in CCP, I couldnÆt care less if you try to squeeze a few extra bucks outa players but be truthful, life is hard enough without the people that develop your favourite game lie to you. I DO NOT PAY OVER ú300.00 PER YEAR TO BE LIED TO
oilio Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.11.03 16:04:00 - [5317] Originally by: sxndy I smell bull**. Well yes. You smell what's there. Originally by:** sxndy I DO NOT PAY OVER ú300.00 PER YEAR TO BE LIED TO Actually, you do. They slimed and lied about their reasons for getting rid of 30 day and 90 day GTCs... and then pricing the "new, industry-standard" 60 day GTCs at almost the same price that the 90 day cards used to be. They sure as hell lied about the whole "Ghost Training" thing. The very fact that they thought no-one would see through those lies shows how STUPID they think their paying customers are. They must assume we're all kids or something... like "daddy" pays for our accounts, so no-one will care when they screw us over. Anyway, you do pay over ú300 to be lied to. Your subscriptions pay the liars wages and vindicate their contempt for their customers. The only protest CCP will understand is a financial one. Cancel your subscription for a while - that's the ONLY thing these guys will understand. Right now, they're looking at the cancelled subscriptions and saying "Ha! they'll be back. We can do what we like and they'll still throw money at us!" Stop throwing money at them, and see how smug they are then.
DonHel	Posted - 2008.11.03 16:14:00 - [5318] Hello ccp, i would like to formally mention that YOU SUCK. That 'BUG" that you used to praise as a feature is what brought me back, theres been times that i was broke as hell, couldnt play but knowing i was still training, 3 weeks to a month later i could come back and not be behind.. now i'm in a spot, account expires next week.. no money, no skill train while inactive so.............. F U, minus one " used to be great fan" but now dispises your money hungry asses hmmmm, i wonder how wow is iv'e been told to play it, maybe i should give them my money
Geanos	Posted - 2008.11.03 16:30:00 - [5319] Edited by: Geanos on 03/11/2008 16:31:57 Originally by: Benedic I have my doubts about active players quitting completely. Well, i'm one that's gonna do just that, with 2 accounts. I was already bored with EVE and this whole thing acted like a switch.
Erim Solfara Amarr House of Solfara	Posted - 2008.11.03 17:37:00 - [5320] Originally by: Grez How exactly is CCP **ting on the customer? If anything, we've had this freebie for 4 years now. We should thank them for giving it to us for that long. So what if it was called a feature - they want to change it and they have. You cannot blame them for wanting to make a bit more cash in this financially ** time we're in. Grow up. There was a wonderful blog reassuring everyone that CCP was sufficiently isolated from the finanical crisis less than a week (I think) before they brought out this money-grabbing change.

Skylar Vodkabar	Posted - 2008.11.03 17:39:00 - [5321] For the past year i've been telling my brothers/cousins to play Eve because you could still train during down times and inactive times, which is useful for being deployed or in training. 2 Brothers-USAF aircraft mechanic, Army medic 3 Cousins-USAF Mechanical Engineer, and free college something But after their Trial Periods ended, they did not feel like paying $35 dollars for a game they rarely play and have no incentive to come back to. Thank you CCP for making me own them in COD4 and GRAW2.
Razzlee	Posted - 2008.11.03 17:40:00 - [5322] Edited by: Razzlee on 03/11/2008 17:42:33 Originally by: Grez How exactly is CCP **ting on the customer? If anything, we've had this freebie for 4 years now. We should thank them for giving it to us for that long. So what if it was called a feature - they want to change it and they have. You cannot blame them for wanting to make a bit more cash in this financially ** time we're in. Grow up. You know, you might want to try reading at least a few pages of this thread before making an idiotic statement such as this. This move is going to do the exact opposite of what they intended. It's going to cost them LOTS of cash. There will be large number of individuals never reactivating alt accounts that at least used to be active 6+ months out of the year.(What is better, an account that is active and paying 7 or 8 months out of the year or one that is active 0 months out of the year?) In addition to what is likely going to be thousands of alt accounts that remain inactive forever, you are going to have a fair number of individuals who will quit the game outright over this. This number will be far smaller than the alt accounts(players 4,5,6th accounts,etc) who trim down to one or two accounts. You will also lose the players who gave the game a break but were pulled back in because of the completion of a long skill and wanting to play with the new toys that skill enabled. For those taking a break as well, it was always nice knowing that a skill was training. It made coming back easier because you knew you did not fall behind while you were away. In the end, CCP will have thousands of fewer accounts active at any one time on average than they did before this decision. Just give it a few months time for current paid subscriptions to expire and for players to consolidate 2 or 3 alt accounts onto one. Once CCP realizes that they miscalculated and instead of gaining subscriptions by removing a popular feature that they instead lost thousands, they will back pedal. They won't come to that realization for a few months though. By then, it will probably be too late.
Komiliya Jenius	Posted - 2008.11.03 17:46:00 - [5323] If CCP needed monies, they should of released the Sisters of Eve Cruisers/Relief ships. For $30/$70, you get a new faction ship and 10% of profits goes to real life humanitarian organizations. So CCP gets monies and everyone is happy. But the Financial CEO recently got the BeanCounter Implant, so they said "Limit ETC to 60 day and charge for almost 90 day, just give an excuse that we aim to industry standards!" CCP sure likes to play like the big boys.
Razzlee	Posted - 2008.11.03 17:49:00 - [5324] Originally by: Komiliya Jenius If CCP needed monies, they should of released the Sisters of Eve Cruisers/Relief ships. For $30/$70, you get a new faction ship and 10% of profits goes to real life humanitarian organizations. So CCP gets monies and everyone is happy. But the Financial CEO recently got the BeanCounter Implant, so they said "Limit ETC to 60 day and charge for almost 90 day, just give an excuse that we aim to industry standards!" CCP sure likes to play like the big boys. Funny thing there. Their aim is a bit off. Their 60 day cards are the most expensive in the industry.
Komiliya Jenius	Posted - 2008.11.03 17:52:00 - [5325] Indeed, most MMO 60 day subs are 29.99.
Tasty Bit Gallente UNITED STAR SYNDICATE	Posted - 2008.11.03 18:02:00 - [5326] Originally by: Razzlee Edited by: Razzlee on 03/11/2008 17:47:03 Originally by: Grez How exactly is CCP **ting on the customer? If anything, we've had this freebie for 4 years now. We should thank them for giving it to us for that long. So what if it was called a feature - they want to change it and they have. You cannot blame them for wanting to make a bit more cash in this financially time we're in. Grow up. You know, you might want to try reading at least a few pages of this thread before making an idiotic statement such as this. This move is going to do the exact opposite of what they intended. It's going to cost them LOTS of cash. There will be large number of individuals never reactivating alt accounts that at least used to be active 6+ months out of the year.(What is better, an account that is active and paying 7 or 8 months out of the year or one that is active 0 months out of the year?)** . Crux. The. Matter. Of.
Squirrrel Gallente Squirrrel Industries	Posted - 2008.11.03 18:21:00 - [5327] Originally by: Tivookz I think the message would become clearer if someone just printed out the whole topic and then shipped it all in a box to CCPs office or something. Although a waste of paper - I would love that to happen. Dump it on stage during fanfest.
DonHel	Posted - 2008.11.03 20:02:00 - [5328] good luck trying to fix your mistake, you just f'ed eve up. almost done giving away my **** to in game friends, then i'm out... was fun for a while, but you guys are ruining it..
Zeppi	Posted - 2008.11.03 20:24:00 - [5329] 177 pages long. Think ccp are reading this? i highly doubt it. Back in 2002-04 developers used to listen and ASK players what they wanted now ccp changes it just like Sony does. Eve will end up becoming another failboat like SWG.
Noxic	Posted - 2008.11.03 20:27:00 - [5330] And to put the boot in one more time, id like to mention this one last thing. If your attending fanfest please please please please please dump the entire transcript in STONE on whoever is responsible for this epic fail. all 5300 replies please.

Squirrrel Gallente Squirrrel Industries	Posted - 2008.11.03 20:43:00 - [5331] Originally by: Noxic And to put the boot in one more time, id like to mention this one last thing. If your attending fanfest please please please please please dump the entire transcript in STONE on whoever is responsible for this epic fail. all 5300 replies please. And the 28 that aren't present, just for good measure.
Chani Fedaykin	Posted - 2008.11.03 21:54:00 - [5332] Originally by: Squirrrel ... And the 28 that aren't present, just for good measure. ...and the 49 pages of the original (locked) thread
Darkeen Gallente	Posted - 2008.11.03 22:53:00 - [5333] Originally by: Ostr0mir - 2 accounts here, and this main one will be paid via ISK only until it expires. I am sick and tired of you, your lies and greed, CCP, tired of my MMORPG addiction and tired of useless people flying around. I feel very sorry for my wasted year with you. Hope you will not have a chance to learn from this lesson your customers have taught you, because you'll be going bankrupt as the world economic crisis unfolds and your playerbase will be cutting it's expenses down. BYE! Can I have your stuff? Regards, Jason Brisbane
Darkeen Gallente	Posted - 2008.11.03 22:54:00 - [5334] Originally by: DonHel Hello ccp, i would like to formally mention that YOU SUCK. That 'BUG" that you used to praise as a feature is what brought me back, theres been times that i was broke as hell, couldnt play but knowing i was still training, 3 weeks to a month later i could come back and not be behind.. now i'm in a spot, account expires next week.. no money, no skill train while inactive so.............. F U, minus one " used to be great fan" but now dispises your money hungry asses hmmmm, i wonder how wow is iv'e been told to play it, maybe i should give them my money Can I have your stuff? Regards, Jason Brisbane
Darkeen Gallente	Posted - 2008.11.03 22:55:00 - [5335] Originally by: Geanos Edited by: Geanos on 03/11/2008 16:31:57 Originally by: Benedic I have my doubts about active players quitting completely. Well, i'm one that's gonna do just that, with 2 accounts. I was already bored with EVE and this whole thing acted like a switch. Can I have your stuff? Regards, Jason Brisbane
Darkeen Gallente	Posted - 2008.11.03 22:57:00 - [5336] Hello, Anyone who wants to quit due to this change in Eve, give me your stuff. I'll put it in GSC's/Station containers. if you want to come back, I'll give it back toyou. Of course I'll use it to invest and gain more Isk but you can have your stuff back if you really want to come back. Regards, Jason Brisbane
Gorek Loc Etherware Heavy Engineering	Posted - 2008.11.03 23:47:00 - [5337] Originally by: Darkeen Can I have your stuff? Originally by: Darkeen Can I have your stuff? Originally by: Darkeen Can I have your stuff? Having fun trolling with your alt on your secondary account? The very least you can do is post with your main, since you are begging for free stuff... But then again, you are trying to use the same methods as CCCP, trying to change subject by posting a lot of crap...
Tradionis	Posted - 2008.11.04 00:17:00 - [5338] This is really sad and you will loose or at least **** off your most loyal (or most addicted) customer base. It is usually people that were really dedicated to Eve that had more than one account. And like someone already said, they have to pay eventually anyway when their skill comes to an end. The idea of having your character advance was one the most unique features of Eve, it kept me coming back to the game after I decided to stop playing cause I simply wanted to experience that newly learned "ghost" skill. Now, nothing will change from the moment I quit so no incentive to come back to the game. Thank you for helping me end my addiction. In my opinion, bad business decision and it might just be the beginning of an end for Eve. After all, who wants to fly around in a half empty universe. It is all the characters that make it special, ghosted or not.
Tasty Bit Gallente UNITED STAR SYNDICATE	Posted - 2008.11.04 00:24:00 - [5339] Originally by: Darkeen Hello, Anyone who wants to quit due to this change in Eve, give me your stuff. I'll put it in GSC's/Station containers. if you want to come back, I'll give it back toyou. Of course I'll use it to invest and gain more Isk but you can have your stuff back if you really want to come back. WTB 1 block feature for the forums.
Clarissa Winterborn	Posted - 2008.11.04 00:28:00 - [5340] Thought I'd record my prediction here so that it can be date/time stamped for posterity. The next move by CCP to try and gouge extra money from us to fund their vampire MMO is going to be to raise the fee for transferring characters. You heard it here first. With all the people out there consolidating alt accounts now due to the training change, this move will be seen by the brighter lights at CCP as a way to cash in extra revenue while the customers reduce the number of accounts they play dramatically. Perhaps they will even rationalize that it might dissuade the occasional player from consolidating accounts and keep the account open long term.



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